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January 03, 2024, 03:08:53 AM
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.

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January 03, 2024, 04:15:42 AM
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
I don't love clicking links, but I think the guy is full of shit. There is no way to be that lucky unless it's rigged IMO.

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January 03, 2024, 04:19:53 AM
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Irrespective of how lucky or good you might be mathematically, I consider it not worthy enough to achieve such degree of victory in lottery battles. Its obvious the system has been rigged somehow. He is either connected to the lottery board or he is a part of this who wrote the code or possibly having an insider information because the consistency is too much.

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January 03, 2024, 04:35:51 AM
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Lotteries are the government's way of collecting extra tax from addicted gamblers. In the US, before even a winner is announced, the government takes 24% of the prize pool and then also tax the winner, when he files his income tax. Basically, about 40% of the prize pool is given back to the government and the winners take the rest. It's essentially a government-approved scam. Regarding OP's topic, It shouldn't be possible to do in a short amount of time(without taking major losses). Either the Lottery was rigged in a way that the mathematician figured out, looking at the sequence of previous winners or he was in on the whole thing.

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January 03, 2024, 05:02:19 AM
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I think I've seen this in the movie.

This is very similar, try to check the thriller of the movie. Jerry & Marge Go Large – Official Trailer Starring Bryan Cranston & Annette Bening (They said, they are professional lottery players) Grin

If someone could not find a loophole on the lottery to take advantage on it, then there's no chance he'll win 14 times, unless he uses a time machine, but that would be out this world thinking then. So my say is that, it's not true, and I don't believe it.

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January 03, 2024, 05:13:15 AM
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
I'm not a fan of clicking links so sorry for that but with the title says 14x that he
beats the lottery is something impossible to happen normally meaning there is a catch on this.

   - Either he is part of the gambling board/or paid at least

   - He is the one who created the code.

   - This is just a play of the government .

the thing that he beats it twice will already alarmed the Lottery system so what
more if having it 14x?

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January 03, 2024, 05:31:20 AM
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Well, mathematics comes into play when you buy a significant amount of tickets, but the risk also increase significantly. Let's say you bought 80% of the availlable tickets for the draw, then you have a much higher chance to win the Lottery, than the person that has bought one or two tickets.

The thing is, how much did you spend to buy all those tickets and how much will you lose if you do not win with all those tickets. Lottery winning odds are crazy... so it is almost impossible to win 14 times in a row, even if you buy 80% of those tickets.

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From what I saw in the article and also having to search his name; he spent a lot of money on those tickets he didn’t just buy 14 tickets and win 14 of them he spent thousands of dollars which he referred to as investment and I’m not sure that there are many people who would be able to afford that much tickets.

And also I don’t think this is a shit business, for those that are doubting the story you can simply ignore the Op’s link and search for “ Stefan Mandel” that’s the man that’s being talk about here… although in all the articles that I managed to skip through none of them revealed the algorithm that he used, most of them claimed that he refused to reveal it stating that him revealing it is the same as coca-cola revealing its ingredients.

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January 03, 2024, 05:59:48 AM
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From what I saw in the article and also having to search his name; he spent a lot of money on those tickets he didn’t just buy 14 tickets and win 14 of them he spent thousands of dollars which he referred to as investment and I’m not sure that there are many people who would be able to afford that much tickets.

And also I don’t think this is a shit business, for those that are doubting the story you can simply ignore the Op’s link and search for “ Stefan Mandel” that’s the man that’s being talk about here… although in all the articles that I managed to skip through none of them revealed the algorithm that he used, most of them claimed that he refused to reveal it stating that him revealing it is the same as coca-cola revealing its ingredients.

If that was the case, we would've heard about other mathematicians who managed to do the same. Well, chances are that we'll hear about them in the future if it is true that he has a system that works. AI also uses algorithms to guess the lucky numbers of the lottery, but it hasn't been able to guess them correctly yet (and I doubt it will some day). But as this is not my area of expertise, I'm open to the surprise.

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I don't love clicking links, but I think the guy is full of shit. There is no way to be that lucky unless it's rigged IMO.
I saw that two or three days ago but I did not bother to bring it to the forum for discussion because I know that it is like I am bringing nonsense. It has no sense to me because I just do not want to believe that. Winning  lottery 14 times is just not possible. The chance that something like that can happen is very small. Less than 1%.

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I don't love clicking links, but I think the guy is full of shit. There is no way to be that lucky unless it's rigged IMO.
I saw that two or three days ago but I did not bother to bring it to the forum for discussion because I know that it is like I am bringing nonsense. It has no sense to me because I just do not want to believe that. Winning  lottery 14 times is just not possible. The chance that something like that can happen is very small. Less than 1%.
It's possible if it's a rigged lottery, but true as far as nonsense. We see lots of nonsense topics like this pop up, some are interesting, but most aren't. They need to be in the gambling discussion board though at a minimum.

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January 03, 2024, 07:18:33 AM
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Possibly just a lottery with rules that can be gamed or be used on the bettor's favor. Also, you got to have a boatload of money in order to do betting in volumes that will print out all the possible combinations for the draw. I know that this can be done with mathematics, but even then you will have to spend or 'invest' a lot of money before hitting the jackpot.

I remember that movie from Bryan Cranston about the lottery in Massachusetts wherein they buy thousands of tickets every week in order to get the highest payout. It could be a similar lottery with the same rules but I'm not entirely sure. Winning twice or thrice in a row is possible, but 14 times? That's something else. That man might even survive a lot of assassination attempts even when he's standing still if he's that lucky.

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January 03, 2024, 07:20:38 AM
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Unless the system is rigged or lottery officials are mixed with this individual it is not possible to win 14 times. I am not a person who buys a lottery ticket as there are other games where luck can shine more than a lottery. I know it is very rare that a person buying the ticket won't have a chance in a lifetime to win it. Only 1 in a million would ever get the chance to win a lottery in a lifetime. I do not think this post is suitable for being on the gambling board, it should be in the gambling discussion board.    
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
I think the guy is not saying all the facts that transpires, and this sounds like a cook-up story and should be discarded.

The first question that comes to mind is, what is the possibility of using a mathematical calculator to calculate and pick the right lucky tickets for 14 consecutive times?

Secondly, if it happens how can we be sure that the games are not ringed just as Yahoo said, it is impossible to have that result if the selection process is not rigged, so much is not clear with the whole thing and for that, we will treat this as some form of entertainment since it can't happen in reality as per se.

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January 03, 2024, 07:27:30 AM
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Don't overreact guys, read the article first. Although the article was published recently but this happened way back, probably the system was too sophisticated that time that him being good in math had taken advantage on it.

Read some details from the article.

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Targeting a lottery in the state of Virginia in the United States, Mandel estimated that they had 7,059,052 to choose from, due to state rules about picking six numbers between one and 44.

Apparently these were pretty good odds.

Virginia also allows players to print their tickets at home, rather than purchasing them from a cashier.

With thirty computers on hand, Mandel and his team printed out every ticket imaginable.

It was in February 1992 that Mandel and his team scooped $900,000 in additional prizes for the tickets that placed second, third, fourth and so on.

This was in addition to the $27 million jackpot prize, of course.

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I think the guy is not saying all the facts that transpires, and this sounds like a cook-up story and should be discarded.

The first question that comes to mind is, what is the possibility of using a mathematical calculator to calculate and pick the right lucky tickets for 14 consecutive times?
Even the best mathematicians can not win a lottery like this. They can not win more while gambling.

Secondly, if it happens how can we be sure that the games are not ringed just as Yahoo said, it is impossible to have that result if the selection process is not rigged, so much is not clear with the whole thing and for that, we will treat this as some form of entertainment since it can't happen in reality as per se.
It can be a lie. If it is not a lie, the games were rigged. If not rigged, it is not possible but a lie.

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I don't on that story, so in my opinion it is not possible to win the lottery 14 times using the mathematic calculations unless make cheats. I will say that the person saying lie and he did get get of cheating rather than I dono't  think that it is possible to win using the mathematical calculations. Gambling is all about ot luck

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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.

How could it be possible to do mathematics on lottery while there's a lot of numbers involve with that? Maybe that particular winner is just extremely lucky and just connect all of those winning encounter on his mathematical calculation but pretty sure that it doesn't have any sense to point out about on his calculation. There's a lot of people which is good in math but they are not lucky enough to win on lottery since all result is random. So for sure there's a lot of people will not agree if someone like him claims about winning base on mathematical calculation he will surely get out of luck in the long run with that.

I know there are people trying to find some working strategy on lottery since the jackpot prize there is so huge but they can't really have accurate calculation since there's a lot of numbers involve there.

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January 03, 2024, 08:20:51 AM
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Some bets that can use mathematical calculations to predict will indeed increase the chances of winning, but this is not guaranteed because it only increases the chances, lottery is one of the bets that can use mathematics to predict.
In the article link that you convey, this actually doesn't make sense because the lottery is bet that will really have an influence on winning, even though skills and mathematical calculation formulas will help, luck is still very influential.
Winning 14 times in row seems like an extraordinary win and it is very rare for gamblers to get that luck, this is the first time I have heard of it because from what I know, winning 3 times is the most.

There are many lottery betting fans that I know and they have used various methods or strategies to get numbers that can bring luck to win, but they certainly won't believe that someone has won the lottery 14 times in row.
No matter how good gambler is at mathematics, it is impossible for them to always get numbers that can win 14 times in row.

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These days I'd think that any lottery pretty much anywhere would have worked out its house edge and odds so that it can not be gamed so easily.
Gaming a lottery isn't hard in theory. If they have set their odds wrong, with a standard or increasing reward regardless of participation.
In practice it wouldn't be so easy though. Because you'd have to get some insider info and also avoid limits. So for example you'd have to have people running at stores buying close to the maximum amount of tickets with cash... Risky business. And also the insider info bit is risky as well, lotteries usually don't announce how many tickets were bought until after the draw. So whoever utilizes this info to target specific draws last minute is more likely to get caught and jinx this.

Maybe somewhere around the world there is such an odds mismatch at a lottery, but given how hard it would be to organize the on the ground operations and how risky it would be, maybe that's why we don't see so much of that these days. Because also lotteries have gotten bigger and more expensive due to inflation, so it'd also require much more money to game the system.

On the other hand, I think today's version of exploiting gambling odds is promotions.
Many people often don't realize that if you combine certain games with promotional money, it becomes very likely to cash out decent amounts.
And in turn, since most people also lose all of their promotional money really fast, providers don't notice so easily. If you're fast and good with math you can actually win with promos sometimes. But still most providers are becoming aware of this and setting ridiculus wagering requirements so only a lucky zero point something percent of those taking in promo money can end up withdrawing any.


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