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January 10, 2024, 08:47:35 AM
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I often experience this, when I hold a certain amount of money, then the money I hold will run out, sometimes I don't realize this and what I use it for so that the money I hold runs out. Therefore, I agree that money should be invested in any form that will benefit us in the future.
This requires courage and requires sacrifice, because many people who have realized this but they do not have enough courage and are not willing to make sacrifices, in the end do nothing and keep the money not in any form.
Such things can happen because we do not streamline our needs with what we get so that when we have money in our hands, there is definitely an ambition that is built in ourselves so that we buy or do whatever we like because the situation is favourable for that so that when we have money, it will indirectly appear by itself even though we try hard to control it, it is still not easy to do.

Investing is one way that is good enough to do but in the end we also certainly have to be able to manage our needs well first (in this case our finances) because after all we cannot invest if we still cannot manage finances well in the end even if it can still run but the conditions will not be stable.
Yes, self-control is something that is very difficult to do, especially with money in hand, something that we never thought of before will come suddenly and in the end we will use the money we hold for something we never thought of before.
Now I am more aware of that, the things I did before are not good for the future. roughly speaking, it is better for me not to enjoy anything now, but I can feel something useful in the future, by not neglecting to reward myself of course. I mean there's nothing wrong with pampering yourself once a month for example.
Actually the future is in our own hands, whether we want to see a better future or not, and we can do and prepare for it now.

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January 10, 2024, 11:59:25 AM
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I've found that separating from money's immediate enjoyment might change one's wealth mindset. Don't let money control your behavior, not ignore its value. I emphasize my value and problem-solving. Impact matters more than revenue. I benefited from this paradigm shift from earnings to purpose and giving

A balanced view of money is also important, though. Tools and resources are important but not the aim. Money is powerful, but I've tried not to let it eclipse my ideals and goals. Respecting money's utility without being consumed by its pursuit is important to sustainable success, in my experience

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January 10, 2024, 04:40:26 PM
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Such things can happen because we do not streamline our needs with what we get so that when we have money in our hands, there is definitely an ambition that is built in ourselves so that we buy or do whatever we like because the situation is favourable for that so that when we have money, it will indirectly appear by itself even though we try hard to control it, it is still not easy to do.

Investing is one way that is good enough to do but in the end we also certainly have to be able to manage our needs well first (in this case our finances) because after all we cannot invest if we still cannot manage finances well in the end even if it can still run but the conditions will not be stable.
Yes, self-control is something that is very difficult to do, especially with money in hand, something that we never thought of before will come suddenly and in the end we will use the money we hold for something we never thought of before.
Now I am more aware of that, the things I did before are not good for the future. roughly speaking, it is better for me not to enjoy anything now, but I can feel something useful in the future, by not neglecting to reward myself of course. I mean there's nothing wrong with pampering yourself once a month for example.
Actually the future is in our own hands, whether we want to see a better future or not, and we can do and prepare for it now.
Yeah after all what has happened cannot be repeated but it can still be used as a lesson so that we do not get into the same hole because it can be something silly if we already feel that it is a mistake but still do it because indirectly it is just repeating your mistakes again and again. Now we just have to focus on organising a better future but I agree with what you said, in this case when talking about investment issues it doesn't mean we focus ourselves in it because of course you also have to get at least ease in life or use your money for your desires at least for self reward that you have reached that point because there is no prohibition to do that too just don't get too carried away with the luxury that you create yourself if at least once a month use your money to feel luxury and feel something new as long as you don't go too far I don't think it's a problem.

 
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January 10, 2024, 08:21:00 PM
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People who are all rich today, became rich because they wanted more and more money, do not let what they tell you convince you otherwise, it was desire for more money that made them who they are today. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying they didn't enjoy what they did and only did it for the money, of course most of them do enjoy what they are doing, but that doesn't mean that they would be doing the same thing if it means no money as well.

Bezos didn't started Amazon thinking he would be one of the richest people on the planet, but he certainly tried to be one when he started it, it wasn't like "oh I would do this for the hobby" and just ignore any money, this is a dude that closes shops and warehouses when workers unionize, he can't fire them because it's illegal, but he can say it is no longer making profit and close it, that's because he wants more and more money, and it is a threat to anyone else if they want to join a union as well and ask for more pay. They may like their job, but they do it all for the money.

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January 10, 2024, 10:41:49 PM
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To serve and to work aren’t different as you make it sound. When you’re working under someone as an employee, you’re serving them. When you’re serving someone as well, you’re working for them. And I tell you that some masters you see didn’t become masters without serving first. And to become a master, it’s just proper that you have to be under someone who is a master because that is how you learn the ways of the master. I’m not sure how you’re thinking about this.

If it was like you said, then we would have as many masters as we have servants. But the situation is far from that. Only few eventually become masters, but most remain servants forever. Moreover, those who become masters usually become such not because they have been servants first, But because they think differently even when they were servants. One will not ever be a master if he keeps thinking like a servant. No matter how much he has learned in the process.

We do not have the same number of servants who become masters because not everyone calculates well. I think in one of my replies, I mentioned that you while you work, you have to make your own plans. And that’s factual because if you don’t, your boss or master will keep on using you to grow themselves. So, while you serve, have a dream/vision. Think about your own personal business. Remember everything starts from mere thoughts.
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January 10, 2024, 11:39:31 PM
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individual experiences with success and wealth can vary, and factors like opportunity, timing, and external circumstances also play crucial roles. While the philosophy in the quote can be a positive mindset for some, it might not capture the full complexity of success for everyone. Individual goals, industries, and personal circumstances can influence the effectiveness of such a philosophy.
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January 11, 2024, 01:56:01 AM
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Yes, self-control is something that is very difficult to do, especially with money in hand, something that we never thought of before will come suddenly and in the end we will use the money we hold for something we never thought of before.
Now I am more aware of that, the things I did before are not good for the future. roughly speaking, it is better for me not to enjoy anything now, but I can feel something useful in the future, by not neglecting to reward myself of course. I mean there's nothing wrong with pampering yourself once a month for example.
Actually the future is in our own hands, whether we want to see a better future or not, and we can do and prepare for it now.

I experienced this,  where when I already had money I don't know why the thought came to me to buy something that was not planned before, and I spontaneously bought it without thinking. but when I already had an item,  sometimes I also thought why I bought it even though it was not very important to me this is due to our lack of self-control,  especially in money management and I think this may often happen to everyone.

I agree with you, it's better not to enjoy the present but in the future there is something to see or enjoy. there is nothing wrong with pampering yourself like doing things that you really like, and that is one of the things that really needs to be done to make yourself happy. of course our future is in ourselves,  I can see many people who don't think about their future because most of them still think about a luxurious lifestyle. and of course this makes them not think about their future. whereas to have a good future, of course, it must be prepared from now on.

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January 11, 2024, 02:06:07 AM
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I've found that separating from money's immediate enjoyment might change one's wealth mindset. Don't let money control your behavior, not ignore its value. I emphasize my value and problem-solving. Impact matters more than revenue. I benefited from this paradigm shift from earnings to purpose and giving

A balanced view of money is also important, though. Tools and resources are important but not the aim. Money is powerful, but I've tried not to let it eclipse my ideals and goals. Respecting money's utility without being consumed by its pursuit is important to sustainable success, in my experience
By giving we will get, that is the formula for life in this world and the more we help others, the more we will get. Money must be controlled not the other way around, we are controlled by it and someone who understands economic concepts should be able to open several cash flows so that they can have much more income. The paradigm and direction of goals become the basis for someone to start making money and the more we open this direction, the greater the results we will get. Measuring the level of effectiveness in making money must be balanced and never change the basic goal of making money from the process we undertake.

Money can create deeper gaps and money can change everything when it is not handled properly and appropriately. We will get a sustainable process when we are able to see opportunities in the long term and usually we will get this process after experiencing several previous setbacks and we dare to take other risks even though we initially experience setbacks.

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January 11, 2024, 03:08:38 AM
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individual experiences with success and wealth can vary, and factors like opportunity, timing, and external circumstances also play crucial roles. While the philosophy in the quote can be a positive mindset for some, it might not capture the full complexity of success for everyone. Individual goals, industries, and personal circumstances can influence the effectiveness of such a philosophy.
People who failed to jump or grab an opportunity is one of the most common factors why we fail without any initiative and courage to be smart enough to find another way to achieve our goal to be successful. Capital is also an issue here.

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January 11, 2024, 09:27:00 AM
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There are true and false riches. The value of false riches is equal to - 0 as it's earned from evil works and is misused, wasted, not satisfying, used in solving the curses/problems reaped by the evil workers etc.
And the idea is that evil work does not deserve blessing or good rewards, so whatever reward that is earned from it is negative, cursed  or evil. To have true riches you need to be wise, knowledgeable and follow the good rules of earning good reward:  If you sow a good mangoe seed you reap many good mangoes.  If you do good work you reap many rewards, you just need to patient while you completely stick to doing good work no matter how little it's. The rewards will be true, satisfying, long-lasting,. Etc. For a work to be good it has to have little to no issue. And that can only be possible if you do it according to the Golden Rule of Love (love for GOD and people).
But the interesting thing about following the rules of good works is that you wouldn't be working for reward from people, may earn little from people for trying not to demand for rewards, you always try as much as possible to follow all good rules/standards & never try to violate even one. You also find it really difficult to work with the world, unless you guide them, else they make you break the rule of love and you all get punished/cursed.  The solution is to  to start your own business & solve problems according to your rules or be employed tester/reviewer(honest quality checking), etc...

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For me, just don't overspend your money and always budget your money is the main things to do first.

Don't live like a king if your salary is just like a salary of a slave. Don't poke on someone else's life, instead mind your own. Focus on the things that will help you to improve even more. Don't get too comfy on your comfort zone, nothing's new is going to happen if you're not going to try something new. Success is always about risk, either you do it or don't, you'll regret both but trying is always the best thing to do rather than living your whole life in what ifs.

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For me, just don't overspend your money and always budget your money is the main things to do first.

Don't live like a king if your salary is just like a salary of a slave. Don't poke on someone else's life, instead mind your own. Focus on the things that will help you to improve even more. Don't get too comfy on your comfort zone, nothing's new is going to happen if you're not going to try something new. Success is always about risk, either you do it or don't, you'll regret both but trying is always the best thing to do rather than living your whole life in what ifs.
Managing expenses is a very important thing for everyone to do, because no matter how much income they earn, if they don't manage their expenses well, of course they won't have savings and what's worse, they will have to go into debt to be able to meet their needs.
Yes, we have to be able to adjust the life we have according to the income we have and we don't need to worry about other people's lives and have to focus on our own development.
To be able to achieve success, of course we have to be able to struggle and have to be patient with the process we go through to achieve success. If we can't go through every existing process, of course we won't be able to achieve that success.
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individual experiences with success and wealth can vary, and factors like opportunity, timing, and external circumstances also play crucial roles. While the philosophy in the quote can be a positive mindset for some, it might not capture the full complexity of success for everyone. Individual goals, industries, and personal circumstances can influence the effectiveness of such a philosophy.
Every company, industry, and person who is running something to make developments in their lives there is always a philosophy behind it. Because the philosophy is also included in the part of the spirit that must exist for everyone in order to be able to build a strong mentality in achieving the best things through their respective efforts by not being affected by any barrier. This is intended for everyone that in every struggle to achieve a good target, of course there is a philosophy planted in each of them.

People who failed to jump or grab an opportunity is one of the most common factors why we fail without any initiative and courage to be smart enough to find another way to achieve our goal to be successful. Capital is also an issue here.
Capital and experience and knowledge must always be balanced to everyone if you want to run something to be successful or to achieve something that can make it better. Because the failure itself can also be triggered by several reasons which are because of the insufficient capital, experience, and knowledge needed for certain things, so that all three things actually still need to be balanced by everyone if they do not want to experience a sustainable failure in the future through different factors.

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individual experiences with success and wealth can vary, and factors like opportunity, timing, and external circumstances also play crucial roles. While the philosophy in the quote can be a positive mindset for some, it might not capture the full complexity of success for everyone. Individual goals, industries, and personal circumstances can influence the effectiveness of such a philosophy.
People who failed to jump or grab an opportunity is one of the most common factors why we fail without any initiative and courage to be smart enough to find another way to achieve our goal to be successful. Capital is also an issue here.

Indeed, those who failed to go out in their comfort zone most of the time waste the opportunity to change their lives, there are many aspects that
we can consider, chances that we missed when it knocks our door, it's important to keep yourself well-aware to what you can do.

Money will give you that chance if happens that you manage to work yourself in, there are things that we need to improve and budgeting and holding
our finances the right way is really important towards our success.
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individual experiences with success and wealth can vary, and factors like opportunity, timing, and external circumstances also play crucial roles. While the philosophy in the quote can be a positive mindset for some, it might not capture the full complexity of success for everyone. Individual goals, industries, and personal circumstances can influence the effectiveness of such a philosophy.
People who failed to jump or grab an opportunity is one of the most common factors why we fail without any initiative and courage to be smart enough to find another way to achieve our goal to be successful. Capital is also an issue here.

Indeed, those who failed to go out in their comfort zone most of the time waste the opportunity to change their lives, there are many aspects that
we can consider, chances that we missed when it knocks our door, it's important to keep yourself well-aware to what you can do.

Money will give you that chance if happens that you manage to work yourself in, there are things that we need to improve and budgeting and holding
our finances the right way is really important towards our success.
Not many people have the opportunity, so many of us see excessive fear so they don't dare to get out of their comfort zone.
If someone has money it might be a little easier for them to earn more, but if everything has to start from scratch then I think the struggle and process that has to be gone through is much longer.
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To serve and to work aren’t different as you make it sound. When you’re working under someone as an employee, you’re serving them. When you’re serving someone as well, you’re working for them. And I tell you that some masters you see didn’t become masters without serving first. And to become a master, it’s just proper that you have to be under someone who is a master because that is how you learn the ways of the master. I’m not sure how you’re thinking about this.

If it was like you said, then we would have as many masters as we have servants. But the situation is far from that. Only few eventually become masters, but most remain servants forever. Moreover, those who become masters usually become such not because they have been servants first, But because they think differently even when they were servants. One will not ever be a master if he keeps thinking like a servant. No matter how much he has learned in the process.

We do not have the same number of servants who become masters because not everyone calculates well. I think in one of my replies, I mentioned that you while you work, you have to make your own plans. And that’s factual because if you don’t, your boss or master will keep on using you to grow themselves. So, while you serve, have a dream/vision. Think about your own personal business. Remember everything starts from mere thoughts.

I agree that thoughts, dreams and plans are of a high importance. And in some cases working as an employee could really help you to get prepared for achieving your own goals. However, most employees either no time nor capacity to think about something apart from their job, because it steals almost all of their time. And the little leisure they have they prefer to spend not thinking about other job, but simply entertaining.

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developing a mindset to not wastefully spend comes first.
accumulating it comes second, and then having a mindset to have money but not need to spend it
The mindset is everything that is why when one has a wrong mindset it can be a reason why things are not going way. When their is mindset of making money it really helps and motivate one on how to go after money legitimately and the mindset of not spending money anyhow helps in accumulating money and not to spend money unnecessary.

When you have the right mindset it is possible to do things just exactly what you desire, the right mindset drives you to gain every desire in the real life. The kind of mindset we develope really matters, it determine the end result.

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January 11, 2024, 02:05:40 PM
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Yes, self-control is something that is very difficult to do, especially with money in hand, something that we never thought of before will come suddenly and in the end we will use the money we hold for something we never thought of before.
Now I am more aware of that, the things I did before are not good for the future. roughly speaking, it is better for me not to enjoy anything now, but I can feel something useful in the future, by not neglecting to reward myself of course. I mean there's nothing wrong with pampering yourself once a month for example.
Actually the future is in our own hands, whether we want to see a better future or not, and we can do and prepare for it now.

I experienced this,  where when I already had money I don't know why the thought came to me to buy something that was not planned before, and I spontaneously bought it without thinking. but when I already had an item,  sometimes I also thought why I bought it even though it was not very important to me this is due to our lack of self-control,  especially in money management and I think this may often happen to everyone.

I agree with you, it's better not to enjoy the present but in the future there is something to see or enjoy. there is nothing wrong with pampering yourself like doing things that you really like, and that is one of the things that really needs to be done to make yourself happy. of course our future is in ourselves,  I can see many people who don't think about their future because most of them still think about a luxurious lifestyle. and of course this makes them not think about their future. whereas to have a good future, of course, it must be prepared from now on.
Awarenes has to come from oneself, and I think when other people advise us, while we're doing well and have never experienced anything that we regret in the end, all that advice will come out of the right ear and keep coming out of the left ear.
We learn from our previous experiences and mistakes, it's the ultimate way to make ourselves realize that we need to think more about the future.
I am very sure that the person who now looks like he is enjoying his old age is someone who worked hard and maybe left his youthful life to prepare for something in the future. it is certainly not for the preparation that we will enjoy ourselves, but we also prepare it for our descendants later.

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January 11, 2024, 02:42:01 PM
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Everyone certainly has different ways of achieving success, although the methods are different, but of course there are many people who succeed and become successful. For me personally, in achieving success, the first thing is always health which comes first and the second thing is knowledge which comes first and don't. It's easy to give up if there are obstacles, namely having to keep fighting and learning from mistakes. 3. Don't get business capital from loan proceeds because for me personally I don't feel comfortable using loan business capital. 4th, only buy things that are most needed and if you want to buy a car there must also be benefits. The point is to buy a car because it is for business purposes because if you buy a car not for business purposes, of course you will lose money because the cost of servicing the car is of course very expensive, but if you just go out once. going on holiday by car is certainly no problem because we also need entertainment and fun so that our brains don't get stressed. The to 5, in my opinion, must be a business according to our hobby because if our run a business according to our hobby it will make us comfortable and we will enjoy the business process we are running.

6th, of course you have to save and invest and of course you have to have emergency costs because without emergency costs it's not good because it will affect the progress of the business we run.
Can you give a little example for number 3. Like you said don't take capital from loans, then how can the business grow?
And number 5. How to implement it? And how to start

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To serve and to work aren’t different as you make it sound. When you’re working under someone as an employee, you’re serving them. When you’re serving someone as well, you’re working for them. And I tell you that some masters you see didn’t become masters without serving first. And to become a master, it’s just proper that you have to be under someone who is a master because that is how you learn the ways of the master. I’m not sure how you’re thinking about this.

If it was like you said, then we would have as many masters as we have servants. But the situation is far from that. Only few eventually become masters, but most remain servants forever. Moreover, those who become masters usually become such not because they have been servants first, But because they think differently even when they were servants. One will not ever be a master if he keeps thinking like a servant. No matter how much he has learned in the process.

We do not have the same number of servants who become masters because not everyone calculates well. I think in one of my replies, I mentioned that you while you work, you have to make your own plans. And that’s factual because if you don’t, your boss or master will keep on using you to grow themselves. So, while you serve, have a dream/vision. Think about your own personal business. Remember everything starts from mere thoughts.

I agree that thoughts, dreams and plans are of a high importance. And in some cases working as an employee could really help you to get prepared for achieving your own goals. However, most employees either no time nor capacity to think about something apart from their job, because it steals almost all of their time. And the little leisure they have they prefer to spend not thinking about other job, but simply entertaining.

Not always the case. Also, if you want to be rich and be independent of working for anyone, how do you feel so relaxed when working? It is something important and you should somehow find time to brainstorm ideas. None of what I’m saying is easy but it’s something that works. I’ve heard of people who have been planning and finally quit their job to become their own boss. They wouldn’t be able to do that if they hadn’t been thinking and planning it the whole time.
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