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January 19, 2024, 10:34:32 PM
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But it will be Impossible for a gamblers to separate family effect's from addictions but at least the gamblers if in his right senses can still minimix the effects of that addictions on himself.

Simply we can't generalize everything since there are addicted gamblers that are still responsible for their family.

On the other hand, there are addicted gamblers who put themselves in the worst addiction which is now affecting their relationship with their family. On the latter situation, these addicted gamblers need to be stopped by force as they won't listen anymore for any advice.

I salute those gamblers who even admittedly addicted to gambling, are still a responsible person outside their gambling activity. Hope they will maintain that discipline and behavior but at least, they should know how to minimize their gambling habit in the long run.
Really I have seen someone who is very addicted to gambling always protecting himself from selling off his personal things, sometimes you see some gambler's with gold wristwatch that way several kilos of gold, running out of money in the casino, and wouldn't ever attempt to sell off his watch.

To me that actions shows that the addict is still very responsible and knows what he is doing, but just that, he can't control his gambling urge, so at that, we don't need to generalized things, since we already know that every individual have they own difference's and ways of doing things.
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January 19, 2024, 10:53:59 PM
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To me that actions shows that the addict is still very responsible and knows what he is doing, but just that, he can't control his gambling urge, so at that, we don't need to generalized things, since we already know that every individual have they own difference's and ways of doing things.

Others are just putting too much negative to the term "addicted". Not all addicted are considered on the verge now of becoming crazy. I truly believe that there are lots of addicted gamblers that are responsible on other aspects of their life. They just do gambling maybe because of personal reasons and seems these addicted gamblers can afford to cover their gambling expenses without affecting their finance on their family.

If only all addicted gamblers are like that then we might see a healthy gambling environment but that's not possible to happened at everyone.

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January 19, 2024, 10:59:32 PM
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It seems like people who are addicted to gambling are the most difficult people to advise. Sometimes if you have had a big win from gambling then you will think that the losses you get will be paid for. I think this is wrong.
This is true, as many of those addicts don't even believe that they are addicted to gambling, and they always claim to be in control of the entire situation, which is part of the reason why they don't listen to advice because they don't see themselves breaking any rules.
 
The only time we can advise these addicts successfully is if we can make them realise that they are gambling addicts and chasing losses is not the right thing to do. Winning big today and losing to gambling almost all the time is not being in control, as anyone who has won big before needs to take some time to check their strategies and know that not all that was work from gambling needs to go back there.

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January 19, 2024, 11:02:16 PM
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I'm not sure of the relatives, but it affects the close ones for real. I personally experienced it. Being into gambling I've suffered much and now I've come out partially. At times the loss can't be accepted and our minds won't work as we think. This affects the family and the close ones. They can see the difference and the same makes them down. Atleast to keep our surroundings happy we should have healthy gambling habit with limits.

Usually nothing you do in your life has influence on distant relatives. I have cousins that live in different countries. Sometimes we see each other once a year, sometimes every 2 years... If I died the only way it would affect them is that they'd have to come for the funeral. About what OP wrote, most of it is obvious. Yes, your lifestyle affects your family, but it's always like this, no matter if it's positive or negative. A person who goes to prison for a crime will affect the family, someone who overdoses drugs will, and so on, so forth.
It's important to not be selfish and notice what's going on around you.

Whatever we do affects our society, and when one is addicted, he has affected the life of few people in the society. Every road lead to the end of the world. Addiction can increase in a society if one influential person who is addicted influences the people around him. That's why to make a change, we must begin from ourselves. However, the distant relatives, have nothing to feel sad about if they weren't present in the time of occurrence, didn't hear the news, showed no effort to solve the problem, and didn't contribute in any way to solve the problem. Those who had personal encounter with the trouble and helped the person out of the addiction, will remember the incident, in what seems to be a long time. Those thoughts can affect the person in many ways, but it's his responsibility to bypass the reasoning and focus on their daily tasks.

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January 19, 2024, 11:28:20 PM
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To me that actions shows that the addict is still very responsible and knows what he is doing, but just that, he can't control his gambling urge, so at that, we don't need to generalized things, since we already know that every individual have they own difference's and ways of doing things.

Others are just putting too much negative to the term "addicted". Not all addicted are considered on the verge now of becoming crazy. I truly believe that there are lots of addicted gamblers that are responsible on other aspects of their life. They just do gambling maybe because of personal reasons and seems these addicted gamblers can afford to cover their gambling expenses without affecting their finance on their family.

If only all addicted gamblers are like that then we might see a healthy gambling environment but that's not possible to happened at everyone.

Of course, there are so many stages of addiction. But if you already recognize that you are on the verge of it, better alter your lifestyle.
If you are still clearly thinking about what's going on with your life, it may not be too difficult for you to change the path you are traversing with.
Don't get too deep before you wake up your mind because that would really be a challenge not only for you, but for your immediate family.
Do remember, you only live once on this planet, why not make it valuable to others? And for yourself?
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January 19, 2024, 11:46:15 PM
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If you let it affect you that is. And if you're in an Asian Household or with your parents still.

Thing is that for most European setups soon as you hit the legal age you're basically on your own until you die. You'd get the occasional calls and catchups from your parents but it's not like they'd actively help you out on things, I've seen most western families even leave their kids be in the topic of school fees, letting the kids be charged with fees as high as a hundred thousand dollars all for the sake of keeping tradition. It's stupid and very unfair to the kids, but I digress.

Yes, there's a good chance for you to affect your family's life when you gamble, especially if you're the head, but as a kid unless you don't tell them about it and it eventually seeps out or you let it get a hold of you while your parents are actively witnessing your health and sanity deteriorate then you should really be good. Parents could care less about what we do on the Internet nowadays, and as long as they see us healthy and happy they don't really interfere anymore. I've never had my parents check on me even when I was addicted to gambling and this is coming from an Asian Household of all things too, so the idea that you could affect your family's life by being a gambler is a little too conditional for me. You have to hit certain parameters first before you even get there.

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If I had a relative who is addicted to gambling, I wouldn’t give him any money no matter how little or small it is. I will only help you to establish yourself and not support an act that ruins you. I wouldn’t also let his gambling affect me because I am a different person from him, it’s his lifestyle and the best I can do is feel pity for his life but it’s his life and not mine. If you want to gamble, do it decently. It doesn’t hurt to be (and act) responsible, or does it?



 

 

 

 

 

 


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January 20, 2024, 01:02:46 AM
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Take note and be aware that your way of gambling could affect your relationships and the circle of your relatives.
to overcome that, I will take it easy when playing gambling, I don't want to be too serious and focus when sitting on a chair, because in my side, I have my wife and son who is as stiff as inviting me to play in my free time. So, we have to manage time very well, life is not always gambling, There are times when we go on holiday and have fun with family. I used to ignore that long time ago, so I rarely go on holiday and make my family going to bored on his life. That affected also on my life, so I am not be enthusiastic and lazy about doing something.

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January 20, 2024, 10:17:55 AM
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If I had a relative who is addicted to gambling, I wouldn’t give him any money no matter how little or small it is. I will only help you to establish yourself and not support an act that ruins you. I wouldn’t also let his gambling affect me because I am a different person from him, it’s his lifestyle and the best I can do is feel pity for his life but it’s his life and not mine. If you want to gamble, do it decently. It doesn’t hurt to be (and act) responsible, or does it?
If a relative is addicted to gambling, we should be able to help him to cure his gambling addiction rather than giving him money to gamble. We must be able to persuade him to leave gambling in various ways, especially if he complains about his gambling activities and he really wants to leave his gambling addiction. That is a sign that he needs help from us and we should help him get out of his gambling addiction. We cannot let any of our family members who are addicted to gambling without doing something and the best thing is that we can tell other family members and ask for their help to help family members who are addicted to gambling. Having more family members who want to help him cure his gambling addiction can give him the opportunity to start realizing that his gambling addiction is so severe that it bothers him. He can also start trying to cure his gambling addiction.

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January 20, 2024, 11:32:47 AM
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If I had a relative who is addicted to gambling, I wouldn’t give him any money no matter how little or small it is. I will only help you to establish yourself and not support an act that ruins you. I wouldn’t also let his gambling affect me because I am a different person from him, it’s his lifestyle and the best I can do is feel pity for his life but it’s his life and not mine. If you want to gamble, do it decently. It doesn’t hurt to be (and act) responsible, or does it?

That's absolutely the best thing to do. Funding an addicted gambler is like giving knife to a child to play with. 90% of the time, they're definitely going to use the money for gambling. However the best option is to work on getting them quite addiction before you indirectly become the one sponsoring their addiction. When a member of a family is addicted to gambling, it reducing their reputation and bring bad names to the family. I know some person are gonna say "who cares what other people think" but if you are the one working on building a good reputation while someone is out there destroying it, you'll understand my point.
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If I had a relative who is addicted to gambling, I wouldn’t give him any money no matter how little or small it is. I will only help you to establish yourself and not support an act that ruins you. I wouldn’t also let his gambling affect me because I am a different person from him, it’s his lifestyle and the best I can do is feel pity for his life but it’s his life and not mine. If you want to gamble, do it decently. It doesn’t hurt to be (and act) responsible, or does it?
majority of them look very irresponsible just because they gamble with any kind of funds they see and exactly what I always do whenever every ever am close to someone who gambles a lot no matter what they tell me I won't give them a dime because they have lost control and will always want to gamble even if they do not have money and that is when they start looking for what to sell and how to beg for funds to gamble. and some of them even if you establish them won't still get serious. and don't be surprised to even gamble with the funds given to them. and if you do not want to be an addict the best thing is to stay away from people like that if they will always want to encourage you to come and gamble with them, and before you know it you are already an addict. it is as simple as anything have control over gambling.

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January 20, 2024, 12:20:15 PM
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If I had a relative who is addicted to gambling, I wouldn’t give him any money no matter how little or small it is. I will only help you to establish yourself and not support an act that ruins you. I wouldn’t also let his gambling affect me because I am a different person from him, it’s his lifestyle and the best I can do is feel pity for his life but it’s his life and not mine. If you want to gamble, do it decently. It doesn’t hurt to be (and act) responsible, or does it?

This is the same thing that happened with my brother,  where he was crazy about playing online games but not gamblings the same thing happened in that he asked for money to fulfill the requirements of the game and this of course I didn't like it, because he spent his money just for a game that had no use for his own life so when he asked me for money, I didn't give it to him because I knew it would be used for something that wasn't useful.

back to the discussion if my brother or my relatives are also addicted to gambling then I will not support their activities,  because with them like that, of course, it means that their finances have been destroyed and they ask relatives in the neighborhood to gamble again, and most likely it is certainly not easy to get a win so the money he gets from others can run out again which leads them to do it again. of course this harms him and his relatives.  In my opinion, everyone should be responsible for their own actions, so if they really want to gamble, go ahead,  but with a note that they must use their own money earned with their own sweat.

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January 20, 2024, 12:24:28 PM
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Even not in gambling, when you're already out of money and you still trying to ask for loan without having the guarantee to pay for it. Your relatives are going to run away from you and will flee.

So, while we discuss about these people. We have to make sure that it won't happen to us and we're still in control as we gamble because if not.

You'll be the next in line that's going to be part of other people's discussion and we don't want that to happen so, gamble responsibly at all times.



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January 20, 2024, 12:30:55 PM
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To me that actions shows that the addict is still very responsible and knows what he is doing, but just that, he can't control his gambling urge, so at that, we don't need to generalized things, since we already know that every individual have they own difference's and ways of doing things.

Others are just putting too much negative to the term "addicted". Not all addicted are considered on the verge now of becoming crazy. I truly believe that there are lots of addicted gamblers that are responsible on other aspects of their life. They just do gambling maybe because of personal reasons and seems these addicted gamblers can afford to cover their gambling expenses without affecting their finance on their family.

If only all addicted gamblers are like that then we might see a healthy gambling environment but that's not possible to happened at everyone.

I do think that the word "addict" has a general misconception and stigma on its definition given on how it is used across this board.

To generalize, addict is someone who is just really likes to do a certain act. Most addicts have this connotation that they are unable to make rational decisions given that their addiction causes them to lose their sense of direction in their lives. But if a certain addict can balance their addiction and normal lives, then I do not see any problem with it.

Like what you have mentioned, an addict does not necessarily mean a negative thing for as long as they can balance things out. To be honest, I do consider myself as a computer addict (addiction to online games) but I seem to find the perfect balance between my studies and my addiction to playing games online.

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If I had a relative who is addicted to gambling, I wouldn’t give him any money no matter how little or small it is. I will only help you to establish yourself and not support an act that ruins you. I wouldn’t also let his gambling affect me because I am a different person from him, it’s his lifestyle and the best I can do is feel pity for his life but it’s his life and not mine. If you want to gamble, do it decently. It doesn’t hurt to be (and act) responsible, or does it?
that’s right, you need to be passionate about games. I had a friend who became very interested in gambling, which resulted in negative consequences such as problems with money and damaged relationships with all his loved ones. Therefore, he became an example for me of what can happen if you gamble and not being aware of the consequences.

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January 20, 2024, 12:49:45 PM
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To me that actions shows that the addict is still very responsible and knows what he is doing, but just that, he can't control his gambling urge, so at that, we don't need to generalized things, since we already know that every individual have they own difference's and ways of doing things.

Others are just putting too much negative to the term "addicted". Not all addicted are considered on the verge now of becoming crazy. I truly believe that there are lots of addicted gamblers that are responsible on other aspects of their life. They just do gambling maybe because of personal reasons and seems these addicted gamblers can afford to cover their gambling expenses without affecting their finance on their family.

If only all addicted gamblers are like that then we might see a healthy gambling environment but that's not possible to happened at everyone.
Addiction is a term used for someone who makes gambling their life and it is not a healthy condition. But if you talk about responsible gamblers, it refers to people who gamble based on their limitations and enjoyment. Not in the case of addiction where you are in the state of having no fulfillment and enjoyment. What is in their mind is the urge to play unlike how these responsible gamblers behaving their gambling habits.

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January 20, 2024, 12:49:58 PM
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If I had a relative who is addicted to gambling, I wouldn’t give him any money no matter how little or small it is. I will only help you to establish yourself and not support an act that ruins you. I wouldn’t also let his gambling affect me because I am a different person from him, it’s his lifestyle and the best I can do is feel pity for his life but it’s his life and not mine. If you want to gamble, do it decently. It doesn’t hurt to be (and act) responsible, or does it?
that’s right, you need to be passionate about games. I had a friend who became very interested in gambling, which resulted in negative consequences such as problems with money and damaged relationships with all his loved ones. Therefore, he became an example for me of what can happen if you gamble and not being aware of the consequences.

Such events gives you an overview if what are the possibilities that may take place if you will push yourself into something that you did not put any limitations,  something that might trigger addiction and misconception with how you should handle this kind of situation,  there are people who did not intend to become addicted but because of uncontrolled event in life  they become one, resulting to more problems that being unleash especially with relationships with their love ones.

Always think ahead  of time, chances of getting addicted is always possible if you forget about setting your limitations,  being allure by that misconception about this venue, things can go wrong completely.

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January 20, 2024, 05:20:31 PM
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If I had a relative who is addicted to gambling, I wouldn’t give him any money no matter how little or small it is. I will only help you to establish yourself and not support an act that ruins you. I wouldn’t also let his gambling affect me because I am a different person from him, it’s his lifestyle and the best I can do is feel pity for his life but it’s his life and not mine. If you want to gamble, do it decently. It doesn’t hurt to be (and act) responsible, or does it?
that’s right, you need to be passionate about games. I had a friend who became very interested in gambling, which resulted in negative consequences such as problems with money and damaged relationships with all his loved ones. Therefore, he became an example for me of what can happen if you gamble and not being aware of the consequences.

The best lesson is experiencing the mistake of other gamblers. A gambler who goes ahead to fall victim of addiction, despite being there during the days of a friend's struggle, may have never understood why his friend was in that situation. However, it'll be difficult for a person who helps others get out of their struggle, get into the same trouble or struggle. That's why in the quest of helping a friend, we must be careful to avoid the trouble affect us psychologically or mentally. The truth is you are not the cause of the person's problem, your duty was rendering some help, which is the best you can offer. Allowing it to live with you for long, is now personal decision. And the gambler needs to battle with all the traces of thoughts left in his memory. Hanging out with him can be a refresher to the forgotten past memories in us, and they're people we can't escape seeing once in a while.

That's why it's still fine to say that the gambling problem can affect the relative of the addict. These people owe him visits at some point, questioning him on his health, and how good he's coping in life. Unless he's a friend, that would be bearable as we both may not see each other again, if one person had to travel to another location. Different people have unique ways of thinking, which entails that, even if others forget it, the addict, and his immediate parent will have to battle with such though for a longer while. Until something extremely significant happens again in the life of the person. The brain forgets the previous if another important news results. Especially if the person gets responsible and begin to succeed in his daily endeavors. And tend to make life sweeter for his parents, they will begin to forgo those thoughts, gradually.

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January 20, 2024, 09:26:49 PM
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The only time we can advise these addicts successfully is if we can make them realise that they are gambling addicts and chasing losses is not the right thing to do. Winning big today and losing to gambling almost all the time is not being in control, as anyone who has won big before needs to take some time to check their strategies and know that not all that was work from gambling needs to go back there.
OP I strongly gree with you to advise this gamblers it takes a lot at hand most of them gamble there life savings accounts just to feel good
For me I feel it is a strong sprite that is living inside of them cause if not like that how can a man use his all hard earned money to gamble that not going to be fair for him and his future.
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January 20, 2024, 10:43:14 PM
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If I had a relative who is addicted to gambling, I wouldn’t give him any money no matter how little or small it is. I will only help you to establish yourself and not support an act that ruins you. I wouldn’t also let his gambling affect me because I am a different person from him, it’s his lifestyle and the best I can do is feel pity for his life but it’s his life and not mine. If you want to gamble, do it decently. It doesn’t hurt to be (and act) responsible, or does it?

This is the same thing that happened with my brother,  where he was crazy about playing online games but not gamblings the same thing happened in that he asked for money to fulfill the requirements of the game and this of course I didn't like it, because he spent his money just for a game that had no use for his own life so when he asked me for money, I didn't give it to him because I knew it would be used for something that wasn't useful.

back to the discussion if my brother or my relatives are also addicted to gambling then I will not support their activities,  because with them like that, of course, it means that their finances have been destroyed and they ask relatives in the neighborhood to gamble again, and most likely it is certainly not easy to get a win so the money he gets from others can run out again which leads them to do it again. of course this harms him and his relatives.  In my opinion, everyone should be responsible for their own actions, so if they really want to gamble, go ahead,  but with a note that they must use their own money earned with their own sweat.

The story with your brother is a lot different from this one because at least he is purchasing in-app products and that is him buying something. But with gambling, you’re not buying anything but giving your money and risking it for more. With gambling you can lose it all in seconds, but your brother’s game isn’t risky, as we already know the result of purchasing things in games - you get the in-app content for sure. However, if you do not give him the money, he’ll learn to be content and play it as it is. Same way, if you don’t give a gambler, they won’t have that money to risk.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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