Crime and the society

[Neobanks]

Irrespective of the negative impact of crime to the society I still believe that the society can also be impacted positively by crime and disorderliness because it is essential anchor point for social changes. Another important function of crime is in the fact that it can bring about understanding of  some deviant behaviour which may causes people to reflect on what is or isn't allowed within a particular society, allowing them to discover when the law doesn't line up with the collective sentiments of the majority.

[Bushdark]

I don't see in any way the society can be imported with crime. Crime is not an option and is nothing something that needed to be condole LD in the society which could lead to several detriments. Crime does not have any benefits in the society and all it does is to cause more severe consequences to the people and the new generation. Are you going to tell me that crime like kidnapping, frauds, homicide etc have bigger important functions in the society? What does the society benefit from all these crimes that could create unforseen problems with time.

[Hispo]

Eh, this is rather a weird way to see crime and its impact within society to be honest. You imply there could be a chance crime could be the kick starter to improve society by the study of why crime actually happens. But in reality, understanding why crime happens is not a warranty to stop new crimes from happening again.

For example, nowadays in the developed countries there is an entire branch of science dedicated to study and understand and analyze crimes and criminals, and yet, it does not matter how many criminal profiles we can get and motives to register, we will always get people to commit the same crimes and almost for the same reasons.

The use of science on Crime is more about seeking for criminals to get hold accountable rather than prevention.
In short, to me Crime is not a necessary evil, is an evil which ideally would be completely wiped off all societies possible, even in ancient times our ancestors understood so and enforced very severe punishments against thieves.

[Richbased]

OP you see even though crime cannot really be eradicated totally from the society, crime shouldn't be considered in any form at all because if you know the consequences with which crimes pose to it's victims, then you will certainly understand with me that crime shouldn't be welcomed in any form and whoever involves their selves in crimes in other to cause panic and uneasy to the society deserves some high level of punishment.

[Churchillvv]

I wouldn't criticize your point because I'm a socialist student, I conceive your point empathetically. to be honest, we humans made up the word  Crime it's basically deviant behaviors that has been set out by law or has attached some sanctions to it making it seems so strong whereas it could be a norm in so certain society (culture).

Like one of the social scientist Thomas hobbes said " In a society without law, life will be nasty, brutish and short. In as much as law is important crime too has its own value.  I know that point will be criticize but that's the truth. without crime there will be no law, crime is as important as law in the society.

From my perspective crime has both negative and positive impact in the society, only few people understands this.

[Hispo]

I wouldn't criticize your point because I'm a socialist student, I conceive your point empathetically. to be honest, we humans made up the word  Crime it's basically deviant behaviors that has been set out by law or has attached some sanctions to it making it seems so strong whereas it could be a norm in so certain society (culture).

Like one of the social scientist Thomas hobbes said " In a society without law, life will be nasty, brutish and short. In as much as law is important crime too has its own value.  I know that point will be criticize but that's the truth. without crime there will be no law, crime is as important as law in the society.

From my perspective crime has both negative and positive impact in the society, only few people understands this.

Being aware of what crime is and feeling empathy for other human beings is different though. What do you think came first within civilization: crime or law? To me, it is obvious that crime came first and because of the negative consequences which started to be too blatant in the earliest civilizations laws were born to discourage criminals to continue to attempt against the rights of their fellow citizens.
Crime does not have anything positive to offer to our societies, otherwise, law would not be so important and universal in any civilized country on this planet.

By the way, the fact you call yourself a "socialist student" only reinforces the talking points of the extreme right about people from the left to be more likely to release criminals to the streets after being locked up. Since, you believe there is something positive in crime I can only assume you have never been a direct victim of criminals. I wonder whether you would continue to think this way if you were. (Hopefully you won't ever be).

[btc78]

I do not think it is necessary for someone else to do a crime just so the rest of us get to understand that that was in fact illegal and should not be done by anyone else of course there are lots of different kinds of crimes the word crimes encompasses very broad categories but usually crimes when done results in some kind of harm or damage to anyone so i am confused how does it drive the society forward if there are people involved in the said crime? Are they like sacrifices?

[Gozie51]

In my own understanding, I think op is making the post in the contrary that with crime there will be improvement and strengthening of the laws guiding the land because one crime gives room for creating of another law that will apart from finding room for punishment, it will further guide against disobedience and the fear of such penalty will scare prospective offenders away from it. Well that is understandable because there is no society with no crime and laws keep getting fortified to move the land forward.

[Y3shot]

OP you see even though crime cannot really be eradicated totally from the society, crime shouldn't be considered in any form at all because if you know the consequences with which crimes pose to it's victims, then you will certainly understand with me that crime shouldn't be welcomed in any form and whoever involves their selves in crimes in other to cause panic and uneasy to the society deserves some high level of punishment.

The society knows the result of crimes that is why their are laws for every crime commited. If crime should be without any punishment the society will be a terrible place for human. Even with all the laws people face when they commit crime yet crime is still taking place, people don't even care about the consequences. The society should not tolerate or compromise criminal activities, crime is a disaster that if the society don't control it will be something terrible because crime give birth to more crimes.

[Jegileman]

Irrespective of the negative impact of crime to the society I still believe that the society can also be impacted positively by crime and disorderliness because it is essential anchor point for social changes. Another important function of crime is in the fact that it can bring about understanding of  some deviant behaviour which may causes people to reflect on what is or isn't allowed within a particular society, allowing them to discover when the law doesn't line up with the collective sentiments of the majority.

Crime is bad to the society and I don’t think a society should be lenient to the punishment of crimes in the society, if not many people will want to find a means through their which will become a burden and trouble to the majority that are not involved in such acts. There is nothing to prove that crime is good to some extent or help in making anything in the society better. If crimes are began to be viewed in that aspect, it will become very dangerous to the society and the after effect will not be tolerable when it gets out of hand. What is bad is bad and what is good is good. Let’s not try to justify criminal activity.

[Volimack]

Industrialization urbanization and mechanized city life have given rise to individualism in us. We are so busy with ourselves that we have almost lost the human qualities of being with others in society in happiness and sorrow. When this kind of mentality becomes evident in a society then the lack of moral values in that society increases racial crimes etc. If these activities are not removed it is not possible to cure crime from the society.

[passwordnow]

Irrespective of the negative impact of crime to the society I still believe that the society can also be impacted positively by crime and disorderliness because it is essential anchor point for social changes.

If there's an impact to think of with these crimes, I don't want to think of positive as this but this is the reality that the authorities will have to act on it to avoid future happenings of the same crime or any other crime and they'll have to change for the better and for the well being of their citizens.

Another important function of crime is in the fact that it can bring about understanding of  some deviant behaviour which may causes people to reflect on what is or isn't allowed within a particular society, allowing them to discover when the law doesn't line up with the collective sentiments of the majority.

I wouldn't say that as an important function. There have been thousands to millions of crimes that have happened already, these authorities can actually learn from them already and not to wait for another crime to get started just for them to do the necessary changes in our society. It's not only the authorities that are involved here but also us, normal citizens. There's no need to eye witness another crime and justify it that there goes the important function and benefits that we will get just to see some major changes in our society.

[Frankolala]

Crime shouldn't be seen as something good, and I don't think that there is any benefit in crime, and this was why the law was made because crime has been a disadvantage to the society and threat to human lives. A society without crime will be said to be a peaceful one, and that is why you see that there are wars everywhere and all sort of evil deeds.

OP, can you tell me where Arm robbing, kidnapping, killing and raping has a positive effect on the society. Anything crime is evil, and it is not of God but of the Devil, because the bible let us to know that the devil came to steal, kill and destroy.

[Natsuu]

It is called crime for a reason. Crime's called crime because it involves breaking rules or messing with how things should be. It's usually tied to negative stuff that's not good for people or the community.

[Dunamisx]

Irrespective of the negative impact of crime to the society I still believe that the society can also be impacted positively by crime and disorderliness because it is essential anchor point for social changes. Another important function of crime is in the fact that it can bring about understanding of  some deviant behaviour which may causes people to reflect on what is or isn't allowed within a particular society, allowing them to discover when the law doesn't line up with the collective sentiments of the majority.

You're saying that crime has an important way of solving social changes, maybe you can wait until then when you first happened to be a victim of any crime activities before making our approving this post you made that talks about crimes, there's no way you can join in the acceptance of what is against human rights, life and say it contributes to the social changes needed, must people die before things get alright, must people steal before they get rich, any bad mannered activities should not be allowed or condole for any reason because they are cheat on human lives.

[jrrsparkles]

Irrespective of the negative impact of crime to the society I still believe that the society can also be impacted positively by crime and disorderliness because it is essential anchor point for social changes. Another important function of crime is in the fact that it can bring about understanding of  some deviant behaviour which may causes people to reflect on what is or isn't allowed within a particular society, allowing them to discover when the law doesn't line up with the collective sentiments of the majority.

Did you come up with this question after watching any gangster movies? Probably John Wick.

Crime is a crime and it doesn't do anything good for society unless we are talking about an individual who hunts down robbers, killers, drug sellers and whoever comes under the tag criminal using the loopholes in the laws or getting away by paying the one who should be taking care of them.

[Hispo]

Irrespective of the negative impact of crime to the society I still believe that the society can also be impacted positively by crime and disorderliness because it is essential anchor point for social changes. Another important function of crime is in the fact that it can bring about understanding of  some deviant behaviour which may causes people to reflect on what is or isn't allowed within a particular society, allowing them to discover when the law doesn't line up with the collective sentiments of the majority.

You're saying that crime has an important way of solving social changes, maybe you can wait until then when you first happened to be a victim of any crime activities before making our approving this post you made that talks about crimes, there's no way you can join in the acceptance of what is against human rights, life and say it contributes to the social changes needed, must people die before things get alright, must people steal before they get rich, any bad mannered activities should not be allowed or condole for any reason because they are cheat on human lives.

It is something I have noticed it happens quite often with people who are alledgely in favor of the rights of those who are imprisoned for commiting crimes or those who seek to overturn death sentences against people who committed crimes against others.
It is very easy to say all people is supposed to be given a second chance to be part of society or not to be executed by the state, but those people who show such empathy need to put themelsves in the shoes of the victims of the crimes which the inmate committed, otherwise their opinion won't be taken seriously and they will be only despised by anyone who had indeed been the victim of a crime.

Let us take El Salvador as an example. Bukkele started a campaign to detain and imprison all the gang members of the country and there were people who started to call for the gang members' rights to be respected, since many of them are imprisoned without a proper  judgement yet. In response, he said that any first world country who is indeed concerned about those alledged criminals is welcome to step forward and take them to their country. Meanwhile, it seems people from El Salvador has welcomed the measures to improve the safety of the common people living there.

[kentrolla]

Never seen such topic which says crime is positive ? I mean how can someone say crime is necessary to bring in social change ? It's a common sense that it's either greedy or circumstances which forces people into committing crime regardless of circumstances crime cannot be justified and rather we should focus on controlling the crime and eradicating it by figuring out the root cause. Some study should be conducted to know what is pushing them to commit crime and then hold the relevant department responsible and work around to fix it. Crime is never good it's evil.

[Zoomic]

It is okay for people to disagree among themselve, with all these disagreements, they might reach a conclusion and understand how to tolerate each other. It is best if all these disagreements and misunderstandings are settled amicably and not resolving to crime to reach an understanding because crime will always have negative impacts. When crime happens, lives and properties are lost, people begin to live in fear and in most cases, businesses become affected.  This is why we have laws to make sure there is peace and order in our society.

What a topic! What about the outburst of crimes which come out of greed and selfish reasons? Where people just want to destroy other people just to get what they have, inflicting pains on innocent people for no valid reason? No matter the form it comes with, crime is destructive, it is bad and the law enforcement agencies will do anything to reduce or eradicate it totally .

[Y3shot]

Never seen such topic which says crime is positive ? I mean how can someone say crime is necessary to bring in social change ? It's a common sense that it's either greedy or circumstances which forces people into committing crime regardless of circumstances crime cannot be justified and rather we should focus on controlling the crime and eradicating it by figuring out the root cause. Some study should be conducted to know what is pushing them to commit crime and then hold the relevant department responsible and work around to fix it. Crime is never good it's evil.

People who go into crime just to gain what they want are just greedy and lazy because they feel it is too hard to gain what they want in a legal way. Crime can't be justified and to give reasons why people commit it. Crime is a disaster that is not suppose to exist in the society and people who commit crime are enemy of the society which the society is not suppose to be fair with them unless they change for bad to good. Crime will always remain evil which is very toxic to human.