Is Stake playing fair? What about others? Where is the line of trust here?

[Saint-loup]

I think the blackjack dealer situation is a nonsense discussion.
If you want to cheat you are hiding what you are doing and not do it in plain sight.   Also it's such a small amount on the table, this would NEVER make any sense.
I hope all people involved have been refunded and granted some sort of compensation.

Look at his face, he is confused as fxxk. Maybe he is stoned or something and made an obvious mistake. There is no need to call this a scam attempt or what not.
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The dealer doesn't need to have intentionally cheated for scamming the customers. I mean, if the casino asked him to not cancel the round and to not call a manager for fixing the mistake in such situation, that is to say when the missing scan benefits the house, it would be an obvious scam, because here the dealer had 13 and not 20. So as you say all the players of the table should be fairly refunded and receive due apologizes or an extra compensation at least.

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[Get-Paid.com]

all the players of the table should be fairly refunded and receive due apologizes or an extra compensation at least.

What other players who don't record their gameplay can do at such incidents? Their word against Stake/Operator - do you believe they would get a refund? 

[shasan]

I don't think there is a "realistic" way to certify the existence of 50 thousand people online participating in a free contest. Every time, for every giveaway.
A good reference can be given by "real users" who actually "win" prizes, likewise people posting here on the forum from ranked accounts.

Regarding sports betting, providers carry out checks. this change it could be just simply from a review (or the system incorrectly) that provided one value rather than another...

Do you think all the participants are using this forum? If not then how the winner will be forum users? And if you mean known of forum users then I am at the same point that they might not be a known person of any reputed forum members. And why the site will take initiative while their are a lots of media?

[Rating Place]

I don't think there is a "realistic" way to certify the existence of 50 thousand people online participating in a free contest. Every time, for every giveaway.
A good reference can be given by "real users" who actually "win" prizes, likewise people posting here on the forum from ranked accounts.

Regarding sports betting, providers carry out checks. this change it could be just simply from a review (or the system incorrectly) that provided one value rather than another...

Do you think all the participants are using this forum? If not then how the winner will be forum users? And if you mean known of forum users then I am at the same point that they might not be a known person of any reputed forum members. And why the site will take initiative while their are a lots of media?

Not only is there not a lot of media on the Sportsbet case but this player hit the jackpot on Dec. 20 and Steve says he's already been paid his winnings of $42m before New Year's. It's also convenient that it was taped on video. I'm sure that there are guys better than I am at tracking transactions but I don't see a transaction of $42m worth of USDT being transferred in December.

The winning customer has since withdrawn his winnings and no doubt had a New Year's Eve party like never before!

[Get-Paid.com]

Not only is there not a lot of media on the Sportsbet case but this player hit the jackpot on Dec. 20 and Steve says he's already been paid his winnings of $42m before New Year's. It's also convenient that it was taped on video. I'm sure that there are guys better than I am at tracking transactions but I don't see a transaction of $42m worth of USDT being transferred in December.

Not surprised.
Have you seen how many "merits" that thread received?



Who are all these users who blidnly do that?

 

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Not only is there not a lot of media on the Sportsbet case but this player hit the jackpot on Dec. 20 and Steve says he's already been paid his winnings of $42m before New Year's. It's also convenient that it was taped on video. I'm sure that there are guys better than I am at tracking transactions but I don't see a transaction of $42m worth of USDT being transferred in December.

Not surprised.
Have you seen how many "merits" that thread received?



Who are all these users who blidnly do that?

 

Sheep mentality along with wanting to be a part of the "cool kids". Off topic but I like this sub-forum. Smart people with independent thought helping other posters.

[Rating Place]

I've been looking more in to that jackpot because it didn't add up. I was searching Sportsbet and came up with nothing. Steve said the Sportsbet.io paid the player. Then I started searching WowPot and found a winner of Microgaming's WowPot on December 20. It's a progressive jackpot seeded with $2m Euros. I don't know how many casinos are paying in to it. I'm more of a sportsbook guy than casino.

https://www.gamingintelligence.com/products/casino/185955-games-global-pays-out-record-e38-5-million-through-wowpot-jackpot/

https://www.casinolistings.com/jackpots/microgaming/wow-pot-jackpot

[notblox1]

Not surprised.
Have you seen how many "merits" that thread received?

What is this have to do with Stake casino?
I dont know why you would doubt that someone won this amount.
It was big time player who won this money and you can easily check blockchain transaction as proof,
and I think that game Wheel of Wishes is from third party partner Microgaming, not exclusive to any single casino.

Who are all these users who blidnly do that?

Do what?  
It is not actually that hard to click and send merit to anyone if you want.
You should do it more often.

[Get-Paid.com]

you can easily check blockchain transaction as proof

What is the transaction then? Care to "easily" show it here?

[Rating Place]

you can easily check blockchain transaction as proof

What is the transaction then? Care to "easily" show it here?

I haven’t been here in this section long so I’m going from first glance. You guys are doing a great job of sorting out what is and what isn’t a scam.

What I see in other parts of the forum is posters bowing down to the big books. No one knows who’s at fault in this blackjack case. What we do know is that neither Stake or Sportsbook are completely honest and they get forum protection. We have to put more pressure on the big casinos when they don’t pay and those two have been guilty numerous times.

The casinos  can’t be looking over KYC for months. That’s unacceptable but some books get a pass on it and others don’t.

edit - Sportsbet is now doing press releases of the jackpot. Smart move on their part.

[notblox1]

What is the transaction then? Care to "easily" show it here?

You really enjoy going off-topic with this one dont you?
I can do it if I want, or if I am paid to do it, but you can do some work yourself or ask Sportsbet.
It is not that hard to use blockchain explorer and find large transactions.

[Rating Place]

What is the transaction then? Care to "easily" show it here?

You really enjoy going off-topic with this one dont you?
I can do it if I want, or if I am paid to do it, but you can do some work yourself or ask Sportsbet.
It is not that hard to use blockchain explorer and find large transactions.

Sportsbet didn’t pay a thing. It’s not on the blockchain. Steve said Sportsbook paid and there’s a picture of a check where it infers Sportsbet paid but that’s untrue. Coins Global paid in Euros. It’s their game. A progressive jackpot where many casinos are involved.

It’s similar to going into a store and buying a lotto ticket. You got the ticket from the store but the store doesn’t pay the winnings.

[Get-Paid.com]

Sportsbet didn’t pay a thing. It’s not on the blockchain. Steve said Sportsbook paid and there’s a picture of a check where it infers Sportsbet paid but that’s untrue. Coins Global paid in Euros. It’s their game. A progressive jackpot where many casinos are involved.

It’s similar to going into a store and buying a lotto ticket. You got the ticket from the store but the store doesn’t pay the winnings.

But what about this?

https://news.bitcoin.com/online-casino-player-wins-record-42-million-slots-jackpot-on-sportsbet-io

Was taking it back what I said about SportsBet, you don't "buy" it then?

edit - Sportsbet is now doing press releases of the jackpot. Smart move on their part.

So this PR is just a PR and not a proof?

You really enjoy going off-topic with this one dont you?
I can do it if I want, or if I am paid to do it, but you can do some work yourself or ask Sportsbet.

We don't owe each other anything and let's leave it that way.

[Rating Place]

Sportsbet didn’t pay a thing. It’s not on the blockchain. Steve said Sportsbook paid and there’s a picture of a check where it infers Sportsbet paid but that’s untrue. Coins Global paid in Euros. It’s their game. A progressive jackpot where many casinos are involved.

It’s similar to going into a store and buying a lotto ticket. You got the ticket from the store but the store doesn’t pay the winnings.

But what about this?

https://news.bitcoin.com/online-casino-player-wins-record-42-million-slots-jackpot-on-sportsbet-io

Was taking it back what I said about SportsBet, you don't "buy" it then?

edit - Sportsbet is now doing press releases of the jackpot. Smart move on their part.

So this PR is just a PR and not a proof?

You really enjoy going off-topic with this one dont you?
I can do it if I want, or if I am paid to do it, but you can do some work yourself or ask Sportsbet.

We don't owe each other anything and let's leave it that way.

That’s Sportsbet press release that just went out. Search WowPot jackpot. None of the articles even mention Sportsbet. The only one that does comes out of Sportsbet. Although the jackpot was hit at Sportsbet. There’s no other way to say it other than Steve is dishonest. I’ve tried to work with him on complaints in the past and he’s the only book I’ve found to be dishonest.

[Get-Paid.com]

That’s Sportsbet press release that just went out. Search WowPot jackpot. None of the articles even mention Sportsbet. The only one that does comes out of Sportsbet. Although the jackpot was hit at Sportsbet. There’s no other way to say it other than Steve is dishonest. I’ve tried to work with him on complaints in the past and he’s the only book I’ve found to be dishonest.

So that means there is no proof that's a genuine win then?

[Rating Place]

That’s Sportsbet press release that just went out. Search WowPot jackpot. None of the articles even mention Sportsbet. The only one that does comes out of Sportsbet. Although the jackpot was hit at Sportsbet. There’s no other way to say it other than Steve is dishonest. I’ve tried to work with him on complaints in the past and he’s the only book I’ve found to be dishonest.

So that means there is no proof that's a genuine win then?

I was wrong. The jackpot is genuine. I was searching Sportsbet and the blockchain. Nothing came up so I originally thought it was fake. I kept looking and searched WowPot and then found out it was real. Games Global paid in euros.

[Get-Paid.com]

I was wrong. The jackpot is genuine. I was searching Sportsbet and nothing came up so I originally thought it was fake. I kept looking and searched WowPot and then found out it was real.

Then hats off to SportsBet for that, at least one thing is genuine & it's good to know that.  

[notblox1]

Then hats off to SportsBet for that, at least one thing is genuine & it's good to know that. 

Hats off.
Now we can come back on topic, that is Stake casino right?

One of the worst things with crypto casinos are fake experts with their rating lists of recommended casinos.
I heard from several trusted sources that you can get very high on those lists if you pay money to grease everything with coins.
That is why I always ignore those lists and people who made them.

[Rating Place]

Then hats off to SportsBet for that, at least one thing is genuine & it's good to know that.  

Hats off.
Now we can come back on topic, that is Stake casino right?

One of the worst things with crypto casinos are fake experts with their rating lists of recommended casinos.
I heard from several trusted sources that you can get very high on those lists if you pay money to grease everything with coins.
That is why I always ignore those lists and people who made them.

That's the go to argument made by people that don't like the ratings. Very weak in my opinion since they have no reason or thought behind it. Same accusations are made in this sub-forum. That guys are on the take. The people using that argument don't realize that there are some honest people in the world that just like to do the right thing.

[shield132]

Edit Jan 9:

Just mentioning you can also see the scam on Youtube in case it's easier for you than Twitter and it's also showing how many views it had a few days ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP_wKX-aYqY

Firstly - a scam in live camera in front of everyone!

https://x.com/DramaAlert/status/1744103940608720947?s=20

The dealer cheated here, and Eddie replies on Twitter saying "Card dealers make mistakes". WTF?!

This video doesn't prove that Stake is a scam. That video is cut from Evolution Gaming's livestream and the dealer is not a cheater also. I was working there and can guarantee that everything is 100% fair. In the video you see that dealer had a hard time scanning the card. He was dealing cards quickly and he immediately didn't notice that the scanner didn't scan them and he accidentally dealt two cards. Then he called the service manager and the service manager told him to scan both cards. Then this dealer made a mistake and put cards wrongly. Believe me, absolutely every player would get a refund for that mistake and the dealer would get a violation for making that mistake. It doesn't stay unpunished. Also, keep in mind that Evolution works 24/7 and sometimes dealers have a hard time keeping awake and alive during night shifts.