[Boxing] Inoue vs Nery For Undisputed 122lbs Title - May

[OgNasty]

I'm a bit surprised there is even a weight class for 122lb fighters.  Maybe that's a crazy thing to say, but I'm not sure how dangerous a 122lb man is even at the top of his game in boxing.  For me to enjoy a fighting sport, I'd have to at least feel like the guys fighting would be some sort of a threat to me in a bar.  I'm sure they're very quick and their boxing skills are on point, but what sort of force are they generating with their punches at that weight?  I think a majority of the people at a random bar would have no problem putting either one of these fighters down, but maybe that's just my ego talking. 

[Baofeng]

I'm a bit surprised there is even a weight class for 122lb fighters.  Maybe that's a crazy thing to say, but I'm not sure how dangerous a 122lb man is even at the top of his game in boxing.  For me to enjoy a fighting sport, I'd have to at least feel like the guys fighting would be some sort of a threat to me in a bar.  I'm sure they're very quick and their boxing skills are on point, but what sort of force are they generating with their punches at that weight?  I think a majority of the people at a random bar would have no problem putting either one of these fighters down, but maybe that's just my ego talking. 

There are a lot of great 122 lbs in history, for sure you are familiar with Manny Pacquiao as he was once a champion at this division. And we will forget about Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales fights at 122 lbs?

I doubt though that a grown ass man can put down a pro 122 lbs. This are train assassins with their hands as their deadly weapon.

As for this fight, the odds hasn't change a bit, Inoue is still the favorite and I don't see it shifting a bit for Nery.

[FinneysTrueVision]

There are a lot of great 122 lbs in history, for sure you are familiar with Manny Pacquiao as he was once a champion at this division. And we will forget about Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales fights at 122 lbs?

I doubt though that a grown ass man can put down a pro 122 lbs. This are train assassins with their hands as their deadly weapon.

The first three fights between Rafael Marquez and Israel Vasquez were also in this weight class and are considered some of the greatest fights of all time. Even thigh there is usually more talent in higher weight classes, super bantamweight has always been a notable exception.

Size isn’t all that matters. Inoue might be shorter than average, but has managed to reach the top of the pound for pound rankings and become a major attraction, selling out the Tokyo Dome. Skill level and entertainment value are what really matter the most, which is why this bout is so highly anticipated .

[Questat]

There are a lot of great 122 lbs in history, for sure you are familiar with Manny Pacquiao as he was once a champion at this division. And we will forget about Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales fights at 122 lbs?

I doubt though that a grown ass man can put down a pro 122 lbs. This are train assassins with their hands as their deadly weapon.

The first three fights between Rafael Marquez and Israel Vasquez were also in this weight class and are considered some of the greatest fights of all time. Even thigh there is usually more talent in higher weight classes, super bantamweight has always been a notable exception.

Size isn’t all that matters. Inoue might be shorter than average, but has managed to reach the top of the pound for pound rankings and become a major attraction, selling out the Tokyo Dome. Skill level and entertainment value are what really matter the most, which is why this bout is so highly anticipated .

People believe that Inoue is the next Manny Pacquioa, so we have to trust him and never doubt because if he is really the next, he will conquer all the challenges and proved to the world that he can create a history. Manny during his team had fought fighters that people don't even believe he has a chance of winning, but he always made people wrong on their expectation, one best example to what I'm saying is his fight vs Oscar De La Hoya, and in fact he made Oscar retired in boxing. I think what Inoue need is to be more aggressive in taking his chances, don't stay in one division for so long so he'll explore bigger weight division and push his limit.

[Dave1]

There are a lot of great 122 lbs in history, for sure you are familiar with Manny Pacquiao as he was once a champion at this division. And we will forget about Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales fights at 122 lbs?

I doubt though that a grown ass man can put down a pro 122 lbs. This are train assassins with their hands as their deadly weapon.

The first three fights between Rafael Marquez and Israel Vasquez were also in this weight class and are considered some of the greatest fights of all time. Even thigh there is usually more talent in higher weight classes, super bantamweight has always been a notable exception.

Size isn’t all that matters. Inoue might be shorter than average, but has managed to reach the top of the pound for pound rankings and become a major attraction, selling out the Tokyo Dome. Skill level and entertainment value are what really matter the most, which is why this bout is so highly anticipated .

And I've read that the stadium that Inoue is performing in Japan is around 50,000 capacity and he can fill that up when he fights. In the US, it's only 20,000 full capacity sits. So it make sense for him to just fight in the Japan, but still though US fans wanted to see him in the US soil.

I also love to hear Nery very confident and trying to trash talk his way into the mind of Inoue and, but I don't think that it's going to work.

There are a lot of historical fights in 122 lbs, yes, the trilogy between Marquez vs Vasquez, (maybe they have a 4th fight, I can't remember though, everything is based on my memory so pardon me if I'm wrong here).

[btc_angela]

There are a lot of great 122 lbs in history, for sure you are familiar with Manny Pacquiao as he was once a champion at this division. And we will forget about Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales fights at 122 lbs?

I doubt though that a grown ass man can put down a pro 122 lbs. This are train assassins with their hands as their deadly weapon.

The first three fights between Rafael Marquez and Israel Vasquez were also in this weight class and are considered some of the greatest fights of all time. Even thigh there is usually more talent in higher weight classes, super bantamweight has always been a notable exception.

Size isn’t all that matters. Inoue might be shorter than average, but has managed to reach the top of the pound for pound rankings and become a major attraction, selling out the Tokyo Dome. Skill level and entertainment value are what really matter the most, which is why this bout is so highly anticipated .

People believe that Inoue is the next Manny Pacquioa, so we have to trust him and never doubt because if he is really the next, he will conquer all the challenges and proved to the world that he can create a history. Manny during his team had fought fighters that people don't even believe he has a chance of winning, but he always made people wrong on their expectation, one best example to what I'm saying is his fight vs Oscar De La Hoya, and in fact he made Oscar retired in boxing. I think what Inoue need is to be more aggressive in taking his chances, don't stay in one division for so long so he'll explore bigger weight division and push his limit.

I don't know about it, but if terms of achievement I doubt that he will become the next Manny Pacquiao, there are many similarities, but I'm not seeing him conquering the 147 lbs which is the creme of the crop so to speak of the boxing world. Most likely he will go as high as 126-130 lbs and after that he will have a hard time going up in weight classes.

Yes, he can fill Tokyo dome and other arena's in Japan, but still the big measurement for a boxer to become great or at least be recognized in the US. A good read:

https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-us-exposure-validate-his-greatness--182798

[Japinat]

I don't know about it, but if terms of achievement I doubt that he will become the next Manny Pacquiao, there are many similarities, but I'm not seeing him conquering the 147 lbs which is the creme of the crop so to speak of the boxing world. Most likely he will go as high as 126-130 lbs and after that he will have a hard time going up in weight classes.

Yes, he can fill Tokyo dome and other arena's in Japan, but still the big measurement for a boxer to become great or at least be recognized in the US. A good read:

https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-us-exposure-validate-his-greatness--182798

People judge based on the current achievement of Inoue and that if he will continue to move up in weight, he will still dominate due to his quickness and the power of his punches. Though it's really hard to surpass the achievement of Pacman who is the only 8th division world champion, but let's see, Inoue for sure has a lot of time to make it happen, or at least try to achieve it.

[Yaunfitda]

I don't know about it, but if terms of achievement I doubt that he will become the next Manny Pacquiao, there are many similarities, but I'm not seeing him conquering the 147 lbs which is the creme of the crop so to speak of the boxing world. Most likely he will go as high as 126-130 lbs and after that he will have a hard time going up in weight classes.

Yes, he can fill Tokyo dome and other arena's in Japan, but still the big measurement for a boxer to become great or at least be recognized in the US. A good read:

https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-us-exposure-validate-his-greatness--182798

People judge based on the current achievement of Inoue and that if he will continue to move up in weight, he will still dominate due to his quickness and the power of his punches. Though it's really hard to surpass the achievement of Pacman who is the only 8th division world champion, but let's see, Inoue for sure has a lot of time to make it happen, or at least try to achieve it.

Yes, I also would like to think the Inoue can at least go as close to Manny when going up in weight. But it seems their strategy is very different. Inoue want's to unify belts and then defend it. But in Manny's case, as far as I know, he will go up in weight class immediately except maybe in the 135 lbs and fight the next easiest or weakest champion that they can find. A very intelligent and careful match making by Bob Arum. And maybe another comparison is that both are under Uncle Bob and so he knows and have the blue print already. But Inoue chooses not to do that at this point and may want to stay at 122 lbs for the time being and clean up the division.

[Maslate]

Yes, I also would like to think the Inoue can at least go as close to Manny when going up in weight. But it seems their strategy is very different. Inoue want's to unify belts and then defend it. But in Manny's case, as far as I know, he will go up in weight class immediately except maybe in the 135 lbs and fight the next easiest or weakest champion that they can find. A very intelligent and careful match making by Bob Arum. And maybe another comparison is that both are under Uncle Bob and so he knows and have the blue print already. But Inoue chooses not to do that at this point and may want to stay at 122 lbs for the time being and clean up the division.

Manny always aim in going up, he could be more than 8th division champion if he didn't skip a division. We can compare him to Manny and that could inspire him but we should not expect too much from Inoue as he seemed to be taking it slowly and doesn't want take an aggressive action about moving up in weight class. That time will definitely come, so let's just be patient and let's focus more on Inoue's upcoming fight and we can again discuss after the game is over.

[Yatsan]

I don't know about it, but if terms of achievement I doubt that he will become the next Manny Pacquiao, there are many similarities, but I'm not seeing him conquering the 147 lbs which is the creme of the crop so to speak of the boxing world. Most likely he will go as high as 126-130 lbs and after that he will have a hard time going up in weight classes.

Yes, he can fill Tokyo dome and other arena's in Japan, but still the big measurement for a boxer to become great or at least be recognized in the US. A good read:

https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-us-exposure-validate-his-greatness--182798

People judge based on the current achievement of Inoue and that if he will continue to move up in weight, he will still dominate due to his quickness and the power of his punches. Though it's really hard to surpass the achievement of Pacman who is the only 8th division world champion, but let's see, Inoue for sure has a lot of time to make it happen, or at least try to achieve it.

Indeed this fighter is still young and yet we are seeing a lot of potenial from him. I'd say it is possible for him to conquer higher weight divisions if he won't be on a rush to do it. There's definitely more than stepping into higher weoght division; he has to dominate on it as well meaning,  experience would be a huge requirement before he continue to go up across division. I am not a fan of comparison between fighters because I see Inoue as a great fighter alone and same goes with Manny. Also they fought on different eras which is a factor to consider if people would insist comparison between these two great fighters.

But going back, Inoue as others have said would probably have a hard time against Nery, and that is already expected. Nery won't have such popularity for nothing and he deserved the spot as well. Will be surely exciting but my bias on this match will go to Inoue still.

[Yaunfitda]

Yes, I also would like to think the Inoue can at least go as close to Manny when going up in weight. But it seems their strategy is very different. Inoue want's to unify belts and then defend it. But in Manny's case, as far as I know, he will go up in weight class immediately except maybe in the 135 lbs and fight the next easiest or weakest champion that they can find. A very intelligent and careful match making by Bob Arum. And maybe another comparison is that both are under Uncle Bob and so he knows and have the blue print already. But Inoue chooses not to do that at this point and may want to stay at 122 lbs for the time being and clean up the division.

Manny always aim in going up, he could be more than 8th division champion if he didn't skip a division. We can compare him to Manny and that could inspire him but we should not expect too much from Inoue as he seemed to be taking it slowly and doesn't want take an aggressive action about moving up in weight class. That time will definitely come, so let's just be patient and let's focus more on Inoue's upcoming fight and we can again discuss after the game is over.

And perhaps he is not moving up as quick is that maybe he knows his limitations. Can we imagine him fighting at 147 lbs? Manny's settled as this weight class and beating a lot of great boxers. So maybe Inoue might not see himself in the future banging with top prospects at 147 lbs and so he chooses to stay at 122 lbs and test all the mettle of the fighters here before moving up to 126 lbs. And I think he already had history and cemented his legacy this early and so they want to play safe first option. And base on the odds, he is a huge favorite against Nery and so it's hard how Inoue is going to lose in this fight.

[Kemarit]

Yes, I also would like to think the Inoue can at least go as close to Manny when going up in weight. But it seems their strategy is very different. Inoue want's to unify belts and then defend it. But in Manny's case, as far as I know, he will go up in weight class immediately except maybe in the 135 lbs and fight the next easiest or weakest champion that they can find. A very intelligent and careful match making by Bob Arum. And maybe another comparison is that both are under Uncle Bob and so he knows and have the blue print already. But Inoue chooses not to do that at this point and may want to stay at 122 lbs for the time being and clean up the division.

Manny always aim in going up, he could be more than 8th division champion if he didn't skip a division. We can compare him to Manny and that could inspire him but we should not expect too much from Inoue as he seemed to be taking it slowly and doesn't want take an aggressive action about moving up in weight class. That time will definitely come, so let's just be patient and let's focus more on Inoue's upcoming fight and we can again discuss after the game is over.

And perhaps he is not moving up as quick is that maybe he knows his limitations. Can we imagine him fighting at 147 lbs? Manny's settled as this weight class and beating a lot of great boxers. So maybe Inoue might not see himself in the future banging with top prospects at 147 lbs and so he chooses to stay at 122 lbs and test all the mettle of the fighters here before moving up to 126 lbs. And I think he already had history and cemented his legacy this early and so they want to play safe first option. And base on the odds, he is a huge favorite against Nery and so it's hard how Inoue is going to lose in this fight.

No he could be very small at 147 lbs, natural welterweight are big guys around 5'9 in height and walks around 150 lbs off-season. So that will be too much for his frame. But then again, we have Manny, but he was like a gem, like a fighter that we will see once in like 50 years, very special fighter.

But we love to see him test the featherweight division next with fighters like Rey Vargas, tall with decent power and see how Inoue will strategized and fight that kind of boxer because I think it will be his first time to fight a taller guy with this kind of frame.

[AmoreJaz]

Yes, I also would like to think the Inoue can at least go as close to Manny when going up in weight. But it seems their strategy is very different. Inoue want's to unify belts and then defend it. But in Manny's case, as far as I know, he will go up in weight class immediately except maybe in the 135 lbs and fight the next easiest or weakest champion that they can find. A very intelligent and careful match making by Bob Arum. And maybe another comparison is that both are under Uncle Bob and so he knows and have the blue print already. But Inoue chooses not to do that at this point and may want to stay at 122 lbs for the time being and clean up the division.

Manny always aim in going up, he could be more than 8th division champion if he didn't skip a division. We can compare him to Manny and that could inspire him but we should not expect too much from Inoue as he seemed to be taking it slowly and doesn't want take an aggressive action about moving up in weight class. That time will definitely come, so let's just be patient and let's focus more on Inoue's upcoming fight and we can again discuss after the game is over.

And perhaps he is not moving up as quick is that maybe he knows his limitations. Can we imagine him fighting at 147 lbs? Manny's settled as this weight class and beating a lot of great boxers. So maybe Inoue might not see himself in the future banging with top prospects at 147 lbs and so he chooses to stay at 122 lbs and test all the mettle of the fighters here before moving up to 126 lbs. And I think he already had history and cemented his legacy this early and so they want to play safe first option. And base on the odds, he is a huge favorite against Nery and so it's hard how Inoue is going to lose in this fight.

He is surely the huge favourite on this upcoming fight. In terms of going up in the weight division, I believe, Inoue's camp is also careful in increasing his weight. It is understandable to have that kind of strategy as he has reputation to keep. Hence, making sure that each step of the way is being considered.

For now, as he has no loss under his record, Inoue's camp is very careful in choosing their fights as well as the increase of the weight class. But boxing greats is not measured by no loss in his record but by how they conquer every fight inside the ring. Just my opinion though.

[Dave1]

Yes, I also would like to think the Inoue can at least go as close to Manny when going up in weight. But it seems their strategy is very different. Inoue want's to unify belts and then defend it. But in Manny's case, as far as I know, he will go up in weight class immediately except maybe in the 135 lbs and fight the next easiest or weakest champion that they can find. A very intelligent and careful match making by Bob Arum. And maybe another comparison is that both are under Uncle Bob and so he knows and have the blue print already. But Inoue chooses not to do that at this point and may want to stay at 122 lbs for the time being and clean up the division.

Manny always aim in going up, he could be more than 8th division champion if he didn't skip a division. We can compare him to Manny and that could inspire him but we should not expect too much from Inoue as he seemed to be taking it slowly and doesn't want take an aggressive action about moving up in weight class. That time will definitely come, so let's just be patient and let's focus more on Inoue's upcoming fight and we can again discuss after the game is over.

And perhaps he is not moving up as quick is that maybe he knows his limitations. Can we imagine him fighting at 147 lbs? Manny's settled as this weight class and beating a lot of great boxers. So maybe Inoue might not see himself in the future banging with top prospects at 147 lbs and so he chooses to stay at 122 lbs and test all the mettle of the fighters here before moving up to 126 lbs. And I think he already had history and cemented his legacy this early and so they want to play safe first option. And base on the odds, he is a huge favorite against Nery and so it's hard how Inoue is going to lose in this fight.

He is surely the huge favourite on this upcoming fight. In terms of going up in the weight division, I believe, Inoue's camp is also careful in increasing his weight. It is understandable to have that kind of strategy as he has reputation to keep.

Yes, it's understandable that they will be careful on his body, although he is not that young anymore and I think his body has matured and he could go only at the featherweight to Jr Lightweight and that's it for him, no more 130 lbs as he might bulk and it could affect his speed.

So let's see his body of work against Nery, although Puma is very confident in this interviews that he will beat Inoue, but let's see. I'm not saying 100% that Inoue will win and there's no chance for Nery to win. But look at how Inoue's version in the last couple of fights, hard to see how Nery can overcome Inoue.

[bisdak40]

This fight is going to happen in the next few hours, just a heads up  .

For Philippine viewers, this can be watch for free via Top Rank's youtube channel and their facebook account, i don't know what other countries can view this fight live for free.

[Distinctin]

This fight is going to happen in the next few hours, just a heads up  .

For Philippine viewers, this can be watch for free via Top Rank's youtube channel and their facebook account, i don't know what other countries can view this fight live for free.

Thanks for reminding, I almost miss this one. well, I hope that there's a live streaming in facebook would be easier as today I'm mostly on my laptop so I can just do my job while watching the fight. The odds hasn't change though, Inoue is stil the heavy favorite to win but I'm be glad to see some upset here.

Have not bet on this fight as I'm not certain how far this fight will go, and Inoue has been quite smarter, so I can't expect to see an early knockout, unless Nery will force Inoue to go toe to toe with him.

[bisdak40]

This fight is going to happen in the next few hours, just a heads up  .

For Philippine viewers, this can be watch for free via Top Rank's youtube channel and their facebook account, i don't know what other countries can view this fight live for free.

Thanks for reminding, I almost miss this one. well, I hope that there's a live streaming in facebook would be easier as today I'm mostly on my laptop so I can just do my job while watching the fight. The odds hasn't change though, Inoue is stil the heavy favorite to win but I'm be glad to see some upset here.

Have not bet on this fight as I'm not certain how far this fight will go, and Inoue has been quite smarter, so I can't expect to see an early knockout, unless Nery will force Inoue to go toe to toe with him.

BTW, below is the link for this fight. I hope it will play on your laptop.

Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVZWeUsDTmI

[Hirose UK]

This fight is going to happen in the next few hours, just a heads up  .

For Philippine viewers, this can be watch for free via Top Rank's youtube channel and their facebook account, i don't know what other countries can view this fight live for free.

You are right, I almost missed out on this great fight which brought together two monsters that the sport of boxing has, I want to see if Inoue will defend his title and also his undefeated record to date.
After all, only Nery is boxer who can face him as challenger and in this fight we can really witness fight that is recorded in boxing history, Inoue really put it all on the line in this fight.

I definitely have Inoue as the favorite and I think he can keep his undisputed title and remain an undefeated fighter.
Maybe Nery is great boxer and only has history of one defeat but fighting Inoue is tough thing for him, I sure Nery will really have difficulty in the next fight.

[coin-investor]

I definitely have Inoue as the favorite and I think he can keep his undisputed title and remain an undefeated fighter.
Maybe Nery is great boxer and only has history of one defeat but fighting Inoue is tough thing for him, I sure Nery will really have difficulty in the next fight.

Nobody comes close to Inoue in the Bantamweight division after Nery I don't think he will remain in this division he will  move on the Featherweight and campaign there, if the Inoue's promoters and Casimero's camp will make the fight happen he might delay moving up and face Casimero to put an end in this years of disputes on paper on who is the better fighter.

I have Naoya Inoue winning by knock out, there's nothing extra ordinary with Nery that will give him a hard time the real challenge for Inoue I often says is when he step in the featherweight division, its a division loaded with Superstars.

[Distinctin]

This fight is going to happen in the next few hours, just a heads up  .

For Philippine viewers, this can be watch for free via Top Rank's youtube channel and their facebook account, i don't know what other countries can view this fight live for free.

Thanks for reminding, I almost miss this one. well, I hope that there's a live streaming in facebook would be easier as today I'm mostly on my laptop so I can just do my job while watching the fight. The odds hasn't change though, Inoue is stil the heavy favorite to win but I'm be glad to see some upset here.

Have not bet on this fight as I'm not certain how far this fight will go, and Inoue has been quite smarter, so I can't expect to see an early knockout, unless Nery will force Inoue to go toe to toe with him.

BTW, below is the link for this fight. I hope it will play on your laptop.

Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVZWeUsDTmI

Thanks but I am currently watching a facebook live now stream by top rank, this sure has no interruption as it's not an illegal stream.
Currently it's Moloney vs a Japanese is fighting and it seems like Moloney is struggling, so I wouldn't be surprise if he loss.

this is the link BTW : https://www.facebook.com/trboxing/videos/802918764682753

Maybe after this fight, it will be the main event (Inoue vs Nery). Anyone here bet on Nery?