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March 29, 2024, 10:31:13 PM
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Gambling will bring harmful effects to people from all walks of life when it becomes uncontrolled and its influence spreads widely in the society or country. If it is assumed that in a family the father is addicted to gambling and the relational environment in that family is damaged and the father will always put pressure on the mother to manage the gambling money. If there is a child in that family then his mental development will be hindered due to this bad relationship of the parents and he will gradually grow mentally unstable. At some point the child will think that the influence of gambling is so extensive that he will always be worried about his career development. A gambling addict can also have a negative impact on relationships with family members. I basically gave an example of a family. If the effects of gambling are observed at all levels of the society, then it must be clearly understood that the bad effects of gambling will fall equally on people at all levels of the society.

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March 29, 2024, 10:44:44 PM
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What you say is very true because basically things when it comes to people who are addicts it is very difficult to help, because Basically what they can is money, and as for the family, that is very relative, things are only given to those families that they are united and that they are capable of helping their people without asking for anything in return, then these Types of things are what we should see, for anyone who enters into addiction there is no Reason to point them out as if they were someone bad, no , it is something that happens, just as someone can get sick, a person can suffer from addiction, but if the affected people have to take care of the possible effects that they can give to the other People who are by their side, that is something that We must all see, and be able to have the necessary understanding for all these cases, yes, the family can be of great Help, as well as friends of the Affected person.


Addiction is a sickness quite alright, and it doesn't mean the person is totally a bad person, and as you pointed out, the person needs be attended to with the same deposition as a sick person. Now the stuff its this, let's try to see it from this angle, the addicted person is sick and the people like his family receiving the effects of his addiction are sick too from their imposed suffering. In this scenario that the person to look after the sick person is sick too, now who is to look after who??, Especially when the addict isn't reciprocating the concerns and love shown to him by him family by withdrawing gradually from his bad habit.

Honestly, it is easier said then done, continuing to show support to an unrepentant person is a herculean task. Although I encourage never giving up in a loved one no matter what, but what we can't deny is the fact that the family are seriously affected in the process and only a very few will endure for a very long time.
But this addiction is kind of sickness that something that could be treat up by yourself without needing any help externally. It is really just that depending on you on how you would really be that handling yourself because you would really be able to resolved out such gambling addiction if you do have that kind of control but of course it wont really be something simple. It would really be
just that depending on you on what are the things that you would really be doing. If you are really that serious on quitting then you could really be able to do so. It is really just that a matter of
self acceptance on the wrong things that you have done. yes, it might not be that easy but its possible. There are really those people who are really just that not able to do so because of that
extreme addiction which on the time that would really be needing up that professional help or into their loved ones.
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March 29, 2024, 11:11:16 PM
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Excessive gambling is detrimental to the life of a gambler no doubt, stories, facts and truths have proven this that they suffer a lot of pressure, tension, loses and frustration. I am also concerned about the impact of gambling on the lives of those dependent on the gambler like his immediate family(wife, children, parents and siblings). I have heard stories of children whose early lives were messed up due to the bad habits of gambling addiction of their fathers. A very recent one is one account in this forum which created a topic staring his hatred for gambling and backing his claim with same ugly story of being a product of a home where the father is a gambling addict. He stressed that it ruined his father and affected him disastrously. I know how painful and frustrating it is when your foundation its poor, and the negative effect is massive.

So I want to ask, between the gambling addict and his immediate family, who does the addiction affect the most?

I think deeply impacts both the gambler and their immediate family, but in different ways. For the gambler, it brings personal turmoil like financial ruin, mental health issues, and strained relationships. The family, however, faces the ripple effects financial instability, emotional stress, and potential social isolation. Children can be particularly vulnerable, carrying the emotional scars into adulthood. It's challenging to say who suffers more because both the gambler and their family endure significant hardships. Essentially, gambling addiction should be seen as a family issue, not just an individual one, requiring support and intervention for everyone affected.

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March 30, 2024, 03:00:13 AM
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What you say is very true because basically things when it comes to people who are addicts it is very difficult to help, because Basically what they can is money, and as for the family, that is very relative, things are only given to those families that they are united and that they are capable of helping their people without asking for anything in return, then these Types of things are what we should see, for anyone who enters into addiction there is no Reason to point them out as if they were someone bad, no , it is something that happens, just as someone can get sick, a person can suffer from addiction, but if the affected people have to take care of the possible effects that they can give to the other People who are by their side, that is something that We must all see, and be able to have the necessary understanding for all these cases, yes, the family can be of great Help, as well as friends of the Affected person.


Addiction is a sickness quite alright, and it doesn't mean the person is totally a bad person, and as you pointed out, the person needs be attended to with the same deposition as a sick person. Now the stuff its this, let's try to see it from this angle, the addicted person is sick and the people like his family receiving the effects of his addiction are sick too from their imposed suffering. In this scenario that the person to look after the sick person is sick too, now who is to look after who??, Especially when the addict isn't reciprocating the concerns and love shown to him by him family by withdrawing gradually from his bad habit.

Honestly, it is easier said then done, continuing to show support to an unrepentant person is a herculean task. Although I encourage never giving up in a loved one no matter what, but what we can't deny is the fact that the family are seriously affected in the process and only a very few will endure for a very long time.

What you say is true, both the addicted person and the family can suffer, but the person or human being has to be clear that we face challenges all our lives, there are people who have overcome cancer and those people are real heroes, Because the number that someone can be saved from this terrible disease is very low, what helps here is that addiction, compared to those major diseases, the recovery of an addicted person is much easier, that is what the person should see. addict and his family, sometimes we can get sick and complain, but sometimes there are people who are carrying serious, deadly illnesses and always have a good face, then of course you have to be Positive , if the addicted person has a family who supports him. support, because things are better this way, because some have family that does not support them at all.

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March 30, 2024, 03:50:53 AM
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So I want to ask, between the gambling addict and his immediate family, who does the addiction affect the most?
It will affect the both party's but the family precisely because those whom are mad don know the humiliation there family members face.it will affect the family member in the sense that any loan taken by a gambler for gambling, will be paid by the gamblers family, this will makie it difficult for the family. I have came across family where there is that particular person that usually cause problem outside and leave Scars of problem everywhere. The more they keep paying the loan the more they take a new one.
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March 30, 2024, 04:06:44 AM
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So I want to ask, between the gambling addict and his immediate family, who does the addiction affect the most?
It will affect the both party's but the family precisely because those whom are mad don know the humiliation there family members face.it will affect the family member in the sense that any loan taken by a gambler for gambling, will be paid by the gamblers family, this will makie it difficult for the family. I have came across family where there is that particular person that usually cause problem outside and leave Scars of problem everywhere. The more they keep paying the loan the more they take a new one.
Yes, this will impact both parties and the family will also experience the impact. Families who do not know anything about the person's gambling activities can experience financial difficulties because the person could spend almost all the money on the family. Especially if the person borrows money from someone else and the lender asks for the money returned through his family.

There have been many cases where families have experienced financial difficulties because they must help pay off the gambler's debts. The gambler also experiences difficulties because he can develop a serious gambling addiction. And that will have an even bigger impact on both parties.

This will be made worse by the gambler's lack of awareness to stop his gambling addiction immediately. It will create a bad situation for the gambling addict and his family. They must be able to help the gambling addict to cure his gambling addiction.

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I think deeply impacts both the gambler and their immediate family, but in different ways. For the gambler, it brings personal turmoil like financial ruin, mental health issues, and strained relationships. The family, however, faces the ripple effects financial instability, emotional stress, and potential social isolation. Children can be particularly vulnerable, carrying the emotional scars into adulthood. It's challenging to say who suffers more because both the gambler and their family endure significant hardships. Essentially, gambling addiction should be seen as a family issue, not just an individual one, requiring support and intervention for everyone affected.

I agree with you. And I think this is a very correct answer. I personally think the most affected by gambling addiction is his immediate family. My reason is because my close family is not addicted to gambling but they have to accept the effects of a gambler in their family. This is very unfair. Just like passive smokers who have to suffer from diseases and negative effects of cigarettes due to active smoking. Close families will feel the negative social and economic impacts. And I think no one wants their family to be addicted to gambling.

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March 30, 2024, 05:22:11 AM
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I think deeply impacts both the gambler and their immediate family, but in different ways. For the gambler, it brings personal turmoil like financial ruin, mental health issues, and strained relationships. The family, however, faces the ripple effects financial instability, emotional stress, and potential social isolation. Children can be particularly vulnerable, carrying the emotional scars into adulthood. It's challenging to say who suffers more because both the gambler and their family endure significant hardships. Essentially, gambling addiction should be seen as a family issue, not just an individual one, requiring support and intervention for everyone affected.

I agree with you. And I think this is a very correct answer. I personally think the most affected by gambling addiction is his immediate family. My reason is because my close family is not addicted to gambling but they have to accept the effects of a gambler in their family. This is very unfair. Just like passive smokers who have to suffer from diseases and negative effects of cigarettes due to active smoking. Close families will feel the negative social and economic impacts. And I think no one wants their family to be addicted to gambling.

Addiction has two effects that occur during and after the healing process. The addict's family feels more pain during the healing process, and the addicted gambler suffers most after getting healed of his problem gambling. The moment he clearly thinks about his misfortunes how he affected his family and the struggle he made them go through, he'll get depressed or suffer pain. While his family will also undergo similar stress it'll be level down. The only moment they wanted to get over has ended, which is during the addiction problem. It feels bitter talking to a person about his ill behavior, and he doesn't care or listen to anybody or tend to correct his mistakes. Such things affect the emotions of people around the addict. Hence, once the gambler is free his family is quite cool and can move on with their business. But the addict will leave the grief forever, almost. He'd hardly forget this, because it happened to him. It leaves a scar in his memory. That's a mental illness and could stay within his emotions for a longer period. In this context, I'd say the addict suffers the most pain.

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March 30, 2024, 08:19:52 AM
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I think deeply impacts both the gambler and their immediate family, but in different ways. For the gambler, it brings personal turmoil like financial ruin, mental health issues, and strained relationships. The family, however, faces the ripple effects financial instability, emotional stress, and potential social isolation. Children can be particularly vulnerable, carrying the emotional scars into adulthood. It's challenging to say who suffers more because both the gambler and their family endure significant hardships. Essentially, gambling addiction should be seen as a family issue, not just an individual one, requiring support and intervention for everyone affected.

I agree with you. And I think this is a very correct answer. I personally think the most affected by gambling addiction is his immediate family. My reason is because my close family is not addicted to gambling but they have to accept the effects of a gambler in their family. This is very unfair. Just like passive smokers who have to suffer from diseases and negative effects of cigarettes due to active smoking. Close families will feel the negative social and economic impacts. And I think no one wants their family to be addicted to gambling.
It is a no contest, the family of an addicted are the ones that suffer the most, since the addicted often enjoys their time gambling, only after they begin to consider all the money they lost, they may change the way they feel about the whole thing, but their family do not have this privilege, they just see their family member using their money for an activity that is not going to bring them any economic benefit, while they are unable to convince them to stop doing it.
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March 30, 2024, 08:41:24 AM
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Definitely the immediate family is affected the most, I will justify it by considering a utilitarian approach, in utilitarianism, do what's good that would benefit more people, that's how it works so in the two choices that we're all presented, you've got more people in the immediate family which means that you've got more people that will be suffering more in the immediate family compared to yourself who's an individual. In a practical sense and any way you see it, it's still the same thing, the addiction will always be affecting the people near you the most because they got to live with you and they're not okay with how you live with them. It's like an infectious disease, there's some time that you don't see yourself having any problem but then the people around you gets the problem.

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March 30, 2024, 09:09:28 AM
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Excessive gambling is detrimental to the life of a gambler no doubt, stories, facts and truths have proven this that they suffer a lot of pressure, tension, loses and frustration. I am also concerned about the impact of gambling on the lives of those dependent on the gambler like his immediate family(wife, children, parents and siblings). I have heard stories of children whose early lives were messed up due to the bad habits of gambling addiction of their fathers. A very recent one is one account in this forum which created a topic staring his hatred for gambling and backing his claim with same ugly story of being a product of a home where the father is a gambling addict. He stressed that it ruined his father and affected him disastrously. I know how painful and frustrating it is when your foundation its poor, and the negative effect is massive.

So I want to ask, between the gambling addict and his immediate family, who does the addiction affect the most?

It affects the immediate family the most reason being that there is every possibility of the addict to go to the extend of borrowing money to gamble which is the family they are going to hold responsible because the addict may not have the money to pay back, the addict may get into other trouble where the immediate family will be involve such as fighting, stealing and can even fall in to depression and die, it is the family that will bear it the pains so for I could say that it affect the immediate family the most.

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It is true, the impact of gambling addiction is very heavy and even bad. It is clear that financially, if they become addicted, it means they have lost a lot of money just by gambling. and with them already losing a lot of money only then will it have an impact on their family relationships and perhaps on their health too. There is a possibility that they could borrow money to gamble again, but I think that would only add to their problems which could put too much pressure on them and maybe it would speed up their stress.

and if his family knew the perpetrator's aim was to borrow money to return to gambling, I don't think his family would give him a loan, because in my opinion it's like letting goats out in a wide pasture, he can do whatever he likes as he pleases. It makes sense that the main perpetrators will feel the impact of gambling because the gambling itself is done by themselves, not with encouragement from other people.

What you say is very true because basically things when it comes to people who are addicts it is very difficult to help, because Basically what they can is money, and as for the family, that is very relative, things are only given to those families that they are united and that they are capable of helping their people without asking for anything in return, then these Types of things are what we should see, for anyone who enters into addiction there is no Reason to point them out as if they were someone bad, no , it is something that happens, just as someone can get sick, a person can suffer from addiction, but if the affected people have to take care of the possible effects that they can give to the other People who are by their side, that is something that We must all see, and be able to have the necessary understanding for all these cases, yes, the family can be of great Help, as well as friends of the Affected person.

Indeed, when someone is addicted to gambling, it is very difficult to be cured, because people who are addicted to gambling will of course not think about stopping, because the urge to gamble will become stronger. Also, those who are addicted to gambling will not find it easy to realize that what they are doing is wrong and detrimental to themselves. with the bad effects of gambling addiction, they will experience financial difficulties and their wrong thinking can make things difficult for themselves. and it's clear in my opinion that the person most affected by gambling addiction is the main perpetrator first.

and to be able to recover from their addiction, I think they have to realize themselves that the actions they took on gambling were too excessive, because even if their family and friends help them to stop their addiction, it will not guarantee that they will be able to stop their addiction.  if the main perpetrator does not have awareness. Gambling addiction is not a good thing because it can destroy a person's life

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March 30, 2024, 01:23:55 PM
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It affects the immediate family the most reason being that there is every possibility of the addict to go to the extend of borrowing money to gamble which is the family they are going to hold responsible because the addict may not have the money to pay back, the addict may get into other trouble where the immediate family will be involve such as fighting, stealing and can even fall in to depression and die, it is the family that will bear it the pains so for I could say that it affect the immediate family the most.
There's this saying that I so much believe in, which is that the mad man its never ashamed of himself, because he's not even aware that he's mad, but those accompanying him deals with every stigma and shame he brings to them.
The addict might even be unaware or carefree of the level of pain he brings upon his people with his actions.

I pity the children the most, in a pace like my country, and where I grew up as a boy, the children would be a laughing stock among others owing to their father's behavior. Fellow children will always taunt them at any slight provocation and such feeling of suffering for another person's guilt isn't easy to deal with, they might even end up hating their fathers and never wanting to have  anything to do with them.

In such scenario, I even support the children at least leaving that immediate environment as bad character corrupts good manners. The possibility of them picking up one of their fathers bad habit is high. They may learn how to sell properties unnecessarily or insensible borrowing etc. Little ones copies things easily and every caution must be exerted to ensure they pick up the right one.

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March 30, 2024, 02:50:59 PM
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It is true, the impact of gambling addiction is very heavy and even bad. It is clear that financially, if they become addicted, it means they have lost a lot of money just by gambling. and with them already losing a lot of money only then will it have an impact on their family relationships and perhaps on their health too. There is a possibility that they could borrow money to gamble again, but I think that would only add to their problems which could put too much pressure on them and maybe it would speed up their stress.

and if his family knew the perpetrator's aim was to borrow money to return to gambling, I don't think his family would give him a loan, because in my opinion it's like letting goats out in a wide pasture, he can do whatever he likes as he pleases. It makes sense that the main perpetrators will feel the impact of gambling because the gambling itself is done by themselves, not with encouragement from other people.

What you say is very true because basically things when it comes to people who are addicts it is very difficult to help, because Basically what they can is money, and as for the family, that is very relative, things are only given to those families that they are united and that they are capable of helping their people without asking for anything in return, then these Types of things are what we should see, for anyone who enters into addiction there is no Reason to point them out as if they were someone bad, no , it is something that happens, just as someone can get sick, a person can suffer from addiction, but if the affected people have to take care of the possible effects that they can give to the other People who are by their side, that is something that We must all see, and be able to have the necessary understanding for all these cases, yes, the family can be of great Help, as well as friends of the Affected person.

Indeed, when someone is addicted to gambling, it is very difficult to be cured, because people who are addicted to gambling will of course not think about stopping, because the urge to gamble will become stronger. Also, those who are addicted to gambling will not find it easy to realize that what they are doing is wrong and detrimental to themselves. with the bad effects of gambling addiction, they will experience financial difficulties and their wrong thinking can make things difficult for themselves. and it's clear in my opinion that the person most affected by gambling addiction is the main perpetrator first.

and to be able to recover from their addiction, I think they have to realize themselves that the actions they took on gambling were too excessive, because even if their family and friends help them to stop their addiction, it will not guarantee that they will be able to stop their addiction.  if the main perpetrator does not have awareness. Gambling addiction is not a good thing because it can destroy a person's life
Okay, so you're addicted to gambling. Very rough stuff. Hear me out: everyone knows that "awareness" is just a joke for junkies. You need to look further. Firstly, why did you start digging the hole? Are you quitting? That's like skipping rocks while carrying an anvil on your back. The problem is that backing responsible gambling? It looks like a thin line over a pit with no bottom. Seriously, the rush is real. Control is more important than absence, though. Boundaries, alarms, and understanding that each bet is a choice. Pick yourself, and have faith that things will get better. That's the authentic battle. There's no money involved. We're talking about your life. That is the real risk

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March 30, 2024, 05:37:51 PM
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Being addicted to gambling can affect a lot of things; of course, the main victim is the addict itself. Gambling can ruin one's life if he really dives into the rabbit hole of it, financially, mentally, or maybe physically, if he hurts himself whenever he loses. The worst of the three is maybe financially. I guess since everything we do needs money, and to be honest, when you have no money, it is like you have no energy, and it is hard to move. The second that can be affected is the family. Since the victim is unstable, in the worst case, he can hurt his family and be physically and mentally absent from them, making him invincible. 

That is just one of the things an addicted gambler can encounter if he really continues to bury himself in the rabbit hole of gambling.
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So I want to ask, between the gambling addict and his immediate family, who does the addiction affect the most?
It will affect the both party's but the family precisely because those whom are mad don know the humiliation there family members face.it will affect the family member in the sense that any loan taken by a gambler for gambling, will be paid by the gamblers family, this will makie it difficult for the family. I have came across family where there is that particular person that usually cause problem outside and leave Scars of problem everywhere. The more they keep paying the loan the more they take a new one.
Yes, it is very usual to keep pressure on the family. Because a gambler owes money to family members when he fall any trap. That is, if a family is financially healthy, many will want to give loans to the members of that family. Because they know that even if the person fails to pay the money, the family will get the money they are owed. As a result we have directly seen the negative impact on families by gamblers. A gambler's addiction has a negative impact not only on the gambler but also on the next generation. The gambler loses by gambling and the family has to suffer for it.

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The first person who will feel the adverse effects of gambling is the gambler himself, and if you ask about who the next person is who has the potential to be affected is clearly the closest people to the addicted gambler such as their family and also other close people such as friends where the problem scenario can be different - different but usually always about financial problems where usually gambling addicts like to make their closest people a target to borrow money when they run out of money to gamble, which is simply that they borrow money but without knowing how to repay it and usually this is the problem between them and their close friends where gambling addicts borrow money but cannot pay it because even though they have money, their main thoughts will still lead to gambling which in the end they use the money for gambling instead of paying debts.

And another problem is with their own family where usually someone who is addicted usually experiences changes in their behavior and personality, becomes more aggressive and easily emotional especially after experiencing defeat which even the worst thing is that they can commit violence against their family members.

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March 31, 2024, 10:47:05 AM
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Definitely the immediate family is affected the most, I will justify it by considering a utilitarian approach, in utilitarianism, do what's good that would benefit more people, that's how it works so in the two choices that we're all presented, you've got more people in the immediate family which means that you've got more people that will be suffering more in the immediate family compared to yourself who's an individual. In a practical sense and any way you see it, it's still the same thing, the addiction will always be affecting the people near you the most because they got to live with you and they're not okay with how you live with them. It's like an infectious disease, there's some time that you don't see yourself having any problem but then the people around you gets the problem.
We all have personal problems in the system. It's okay to gamble but definitely worse to get addicted because the slightest chances of savings will no longer exists because everything valuable on your end is going straight up to gamble. Gambling addiction is targeted to those people that have interest in gambling, we should be ready to take control of the system, always pressuring ourselves to be right and stable, and anything out of line attracts losses, we already know what it means.



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March 31, 2024, 01:30:58 PM
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The first person who will feel the adverse effects of gambling is the gambler himself, and if you ask about who the next person is who has the potential to be affected is clearly the closest people to the addicted gambler such as their family and also other close people such as friends where the problem scenario can be different - different but usually always about financial problems where usually gambling addicts like to make their closest people a target to borrow money when they run out of money to gamble, which is simply that they borrow money but without knowing how to repay it and usually this is the problem between them and their close friends where gambling addicts borrow money but cannot pay it because even though they have money, their main thoughts will still lead to gambling which in the end they use the money for gambling instead of paying debts.

And another problem is with their own family where usually someone who is addicted usually experiences changes in their behavior and personality, becomes more aggressive and easily emotional especially after experiencing defeat which even the worst thing is that they can commit violence against their family members.
Gambling addiction is serious, people. It destroys the gambler first and foremost, but it also affects their family and friends, who should support them. Addicts use family as ATMs, emptying their cash to support their addiction. These people dont realize the implications of their acts and are trapped in a cycle of financial ruin.

Remember the home front impact. Gambling addiction can cause anger and violence. Not acceptable. It ruins individuals and society.

We do what? People with gambling addiction need strong support. Gambling addiction education and awareness programs are needed. We must provide tangible aid to individuals caught in this terrible cycle.

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March 31, 2024, 09:23:56 PM
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The first person who will feel the adverse effects of gambling is the gambler himself, and if you ask about who the next person is who has the potential to be affected is clearly the closest people to the addicted gambler such as their family and also other close people such as friends where the problem scenario can be different - different but usually always about financial problems where usually gambling addicts like to make their closest people a target to borrow money when they run out of money to gamble, which is simply that they borrow money but without knowing how to repay it and usually this is the problem between them and their close friends where gambling addicts borrow money but cannot pay it because even though they have money, their main thoughts will still lead to gambling which in the end they use the money for gambling instead of paying debts.

And another problem is with their own family where usually someone who is addicted usually experiences changes in their behavior and personality, becomes more aggressive and easily emotional especially after experiencing defeat which even the worst thing is that they can commit violence against their family members.
Gambling addiction is serious, people. It destroys the gambler first and foremost, but it also affects their family and friends, who should support them. Addicts use family as ATMs, emptying their cash to support their addiction. These people dont realize the implications of their acts and are trapped in a cycle of financial ruin.

Remember the home front impact. Gambling addiction can cause anger and violence. Not acceptable. It ruins individuals and society.

We do what? People with gambling addiction need strong support. Gambling addiction education and awareness programs are needed. We must provide tangible aid to individuals caught in this terrible cycle.

From some of the cases of addicted gamblers that I have found, it is usually the closest people who will be affected by the bad effects of their gambling addiction, and as I said above, usually the problem is always about money where they make their closest people like the ATM machine you said, or the point is to use their presence as a place or intermediary to borrow money when the gambler runs out of money to gamble.

The cycle of financial ruin is a sure thing that happens where some of the scenarios start from borrowing money in many places which eventually puts them under pressure but without the ability to pay it back which in the end is clearly in debt is a sure thing that triggers their financial ruin.

Yes it is true that gambling addiction needs help and encouragement to lead to change, but not all gamblers who are already addicted can be overcome by only using support to achieve sobriety, although it helps but the fact is that it is unlikely to succeed and usually a person will be able to achieve sobriety when he has experienced a downfall that really traumatizes him.

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