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Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.
It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year. That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting. It is not only Shakur is shorter than Haney. Do not underestimate that in reality, Devin Haney is very much bigger than expected. His move to super lightweight might be thought as something similar to moving up to a heavier weight division. However, it should be something similar to moving to a weight division with his correct height and size hehehe. Some fans speculated that Prograis might win because he belonged in the higher weight division but in the ring it was very clear that the much bigger boxer was Devin Haney. He might also find a home on welterweight with in 5 years. I think both of them can go to 140 lbs, similar to how Haney, Teo and Garcia is right now. It's that Tank Davis doesn't want to take that risk and try to remain at 135 lbs and now he had a fight in his horizon. Same with Shakur, he hasn't accomplished anything yet in this division and yet he was avoided. But being in Top Rank he can for sure get the winner of this fight obviously. For Tank, he will be protected and preserved that 0 so that he has the leverage in negotiations and be always the A-side. I very much agree on your comment on Tank Davis. This also showed in his negotiations with Ryan Garcia and his team where Tank included an agreement that Ryan will not be allowed to be over a certain weight during the fight. This is cleary very headshaking behavior of a hustler. It was more headshaking that Ryan and his team were easily tricked when Ryan signed the contract. I think it's Ryan or GBP who wanted the fight and that's the price they have to pay. As they allowed Tank and his camp to put a lot of clause in their contract, including rehydration and how big Ryan could be in the fight itself. Reasoning is that they don't want Ryan to have the advantage. This type of trickery and the attitude of avoiding risk is making me speculate if Tank was really injured vs. Pitbull Cruz. I reckon if someone proposes a rematch, Tank will avoid Pitbull similar to Canelo and his avoidance of Benavidez hehehee.
He didn't give Pitbull the rematch, he has has move on. But we all know that he is fighting lesser and soft opponents. Again, it could have been because they want to preserved his unbeaten record like his mentor Floyd. If Tank's mission for his career is to preserve his unbeaten record then I reckon that he is only in this sport to make some money for retirement. He has the talent to create a legacy, however, his motivation will stop from doing this. There are only very few fighters who will take risks to become the greatest. Pacman in boxing and Khabib in MMA are certainly my favorite choices.
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February 29, 2024, 10:39:23 AM |
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If Tank's mission for his career is to preserve his unbeaten record then I reckon that he is only in this sport to make some money for retirement. He has the talent to create a legacy, however, his motivation will stop from doing this. There are only very few fighters who will take risks to become the greatest. Pacman in boxing and Khabib in MMA are certainly my favorite choices.
Everyone though is here for the business of making big money until they retired. Floyd has set that precedent already, there could be some who chases for legacy, but majority including Tank Davis wanted to be the next Floyd. But it's hard to blame them, they can just give us the reasons that they put their lives on the line when they fight and so they deserved to be paid more. I do agree, Pacman's mindset is different, that's why he achieved greatness even though he has a lot of lost in his record. Khabib retired undefeated, but it's more on his mentality as his father died and he can go thru MMA without his father in his corner. Hopefully though, we can see Tank stepping his game and fighting the champion in 135 lbs like Shakur Stevenson and the winner here.
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February 29, 2024, 11:09:08 AM |
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If Tank's mission for his career is to preserve his unbeaten record then I reckon that he is only in this sport to make some money for retirement. He has the talent to create a legacy, however, his motivation will stop from doing this. There are only very few fighters who will take risks to become the greatest. Pacman in boxing and Khabib in MMA are certainly my favorite choices.
Everyone though is here for the business of making big money until they retired. Floyd has set that precedent already, there could be some who chases for legacy, but majority including Tank Davis wanted to be the next Floyd. But it's hard to blame them, they can just give us the reasons that they put their lives on the line when they fight and so they deserved to be paid more. I do agree, Pacman's mindset is different, that's why he achieved greatness even though he has a lot of lost in his record. Khabib retired undefeated, but it's more on his mentality as his father died and he can go thru MMA without his father in his corner. These two are champions who have a good reputation from the start. I mean, they are exciting to watch, unlike other self-proclaimed great boxers or MMA fighters, but in reality, the fans are not entertained when they fight. They are a good example of fighters who are willing to risk everything to be great; money is just next for them. Hopefully though, we can see Tank stepping his game and fighting the champion in 135 lbs like Shakur Stevenson and the winner here.
That would be fun to watch. Although I can say that Tank is good, Shakur seems to not have any weaknesses based on his last fights, so it will be tough for Tank to win here and on how to land his power against a very smart and quick boxer.
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Loma cannot be too complacent about not getting a knockout win in Kambosos' country. Just to ensure a victory, he needs to KO him; otherwise, he might be surprised that he is very confident in the ring, thinking he'll win comfortably, but the judges saw it differently. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) People will never forget what they did to Pacman, and I hope it will not happen to Loma here since Kambosos has a similar style to Horn, who just loves to attack and throw a lot of punches. If judges count that and he survives the 12 rounds, unexpected things could happen. I'm pretty sure Loma's camp is well aware of that, so it's expected that their game plan is always ready to secure a clear victory. I'm not sure if they have similar style, what I noticed though during the Jeff Horn vs Manny Pacquiao is that Jeff is a bigger fighter and so he bullish Manny that time and that is enough for the corrupt judges to see him winning. But in this fight, I don't think that George can bully Loma here. Loma is too technical and it might be a wrong strategy for him as I'm seeing that Loma will counter him with short left and right hand. There's a difference in terms of size, maybe, but we can't deny that Kambosos's style is always aggressive. Well, if he does it to Haney, which I think is bigger than Loma, he can also do it with Loma and still survive every round. The real challenge for Loma here is how to knock out Kambosos, as he doesn't want to go to the judges' scorecards in a non-friendly venue. Now, if I could ask, what would be next for Kambosos if he loses this fight? Would he rather retire or continue fighting against non-top boxers?
He can still fight, but I don't think that he will be given chances again to fight for the belt. But who knows, Bob Arum has this influence and his Top Rank has control of boxers in the lower weight. So maybe they can have George fight up and coming fighters for the money. In that case, the amount of money he'll be earning will be lower compared to what he usually earn being a fighter who are close to the top. Let's just see the development after this fight in case he really would loss.
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If Tank's mission for his career is to preserve his unbeaten record then I reckon that he is only in this sport to make some money for retirement. He has the talent to create a legacy, however, his motivation will stop from doing this. There are only very few fighters who will take risks to become the greatest. Pacman in boxing and Khabib in MMA are certainly my favorite choices.
Everyone though is here for the business of making big money until they retired. Floyd has set that precedent already, there could be some who chases for legacy, but majority including Tank Davis wanted to be the next Floyd. But it's hard to blame them, they can just give us the reasons that they put their lives on the line when they fight and so they deserved to be paid more. I do agree, Pacman's mindset is different, that's why he achieved greatness even though he has a lot of lost in his record. Khabib retired undefeated, but it's more on his mentality as his father died and he can go thru MMA without his father in his corner. These two are champions who have a good reputation from the start. I mean, they are exciting to watch, unlike other self-proclaimed great boxers or MMA fighters, but in reality, the fans are not entertained when they fight. They are a good example of fighters who are willing to risk everything to be great; money is just next for them. Hopefully though, we can see Tank stepping his game and fighting the champion in 135 lbs like Shakur Stevenson and the winner here.
That would be fun to watch. Although I can say that Tank is good, Shakur seems to not have any weaknesses based on his last fights, so it will be tough for Tank to win here and on how to land his power against a very smart and quick boxer. Everyone has his weakness though, I think Shakur hasn't been tested in his career, same with Tank that's why we didn't see any flaw on their game as of yet. The best thing about this elite boxers is that when they face great boxers, they elevate their games. So I'm expecting either we wins here and fight Shakur next, it will be a great matchup. It will be fun as we are going to witness great boxing, Shakur is defensive and his bread and boxer is his counter. But let's say he will face Loma which is hi-tech, both of them are going to stretch not just their skills, but also their boxing IQ and trying to outsmart each other.
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If Tank's mission for his career is to preserve his unbeaten record then I reckon that he is only in this sport to make some money for retirement. He has the talent to create a legacy, however, his motivation will stop from doing this. There are only very few fighters who will take risks to become the greatest. Pacman in boxing and Khabib in MMA are certainly my favorite choices.
Everyone though is here for the business of making big money until they retired. Floyd has set that precedent already, there could be some who chases for legacy, but majority including Tank Davis wanted to be the next Floyd. But it's hard to blame them, they can just give us the reasons that they put their lives on the line when they fight and so they deserved to be paid more. I do agree, Pacman's mindset is different, that's why he achieved greatness even though he has a lot of lost in his record. Khabib retired undefeated, but it's more on his mentality as his father died and he can go thru MMA without his father in his corner. Hopefully though, we can see Tank stepping his game and fighting the champion in 135 lbs like Shakur Stevenson and the winner here. There is also Lomachenko after he gets the victory vs. George Kambosos and a rematch vs. Pitbull Cruz. After this, I reckon his body is big enough already to fight in super lightweight and fight Teo Lopez, Devin Haney. The promoters and the boxing organizations should also encourage this to keep this sport alive because boxing is almost dead. The present situation in boxing is what we are given because everything is about money and not anymore the best boxers fighting vs. the best boxers. They are killing this sport!
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March 02, 2024, 11:01:28 AM |
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If Tank's mission for his career is to preserve his unbeaten record then I reckon that he is only in this sport to make some money for retirement. He has the talent to create a legacy, however, his motivation will stop from doing this. There are only very few fighters who will take risks to become the greatest. Pacman in boxing and Khabib in MMA are certainly my favorite choices.
Everyone though is here for the business of making big money until they retired. Floyd has set that precedent already, there could be some who chases for legacy, but majority including Tank Davis wanted to be the next Floyd. But it's hard to blame them, they can just give us the reasons that they put their lives on the line when they fight and so they deserved to be paid more. I do agree, Pacman's mindset is different, that's why he achieved greatness even though he has a lot of lost in his record. Khabib retired undefeated, but it's more on his mentality as his father died and he can go thru MMA without his father in his corner. Hopefully though, we can see Tank stepping his game and fighting the champion in 135 lbs like Shakur Stevenson and the winner here. There is also Lomachenko after he gets the victory vs. George Kambosos and a rematch vs. Pitbull Cruz. He can beat George Kambosos for sure. But I'm unaware about the rematch vs Pitbull Cruz, because I just checked on boxrec and I haven't seen a name Pitbull Cruz being an opponent of Loma.. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771 After this, I reckon his body is big enough already to fight in super lightweight and fight Teo Lopez, Devin Haney. The promoters and the boxing organizations should also encourage this to keep this sport alive because boxing is almost dead.
The present situation in boxing is what we are given because everything is about money and not anymore the best boxers fighting vs. the best boxers. They are killing this sport!
He can move up if he wants, so he has a chance to avenge his loss to Haney or Teo; these two boxers beat him. It would be a significant success for him if that happens. As for now, Loma's job is just to focus in training and make sure he'll give an impressive win so it will be easy to promote a fight for him.
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... I think that will be the leverage of Top Rank for Shakur to sign with them again, he will be given the chance to fight Loma which is one of his dream fights. It will be a big test for him and let's see if he can get the belt, assuming the Loma wins against George Kambosos in Australia.
Shakur already rejected Top Rank's offer to re-sign him. It was $15 million for 5 fights which is minimum of $3 million per fight. We'll see if there are other promotions that will offer bigger than TR. But I guess PBC is already out of the picture after Shakur insulted the network by saying its fighters are not earning millions which make sense because most PBC events are PPVs to pay them and most of the time only the main event fighters are getting shares. After this, I reckon his body is big enough already to fight in super lightweight and fight Teo Lopez, Devin Haney. The promoters and the boxing organizations should also encourage this to keep this sport alive because boxing is almost dead.
The present situation in boxing is what we are given because everything is about money and not anymore the best boxers fighting vs. the best boxers. They are killing this sport!
He can move up if he wants, so he has a chance to avenge his loss to Haney or Teo; these two boxers beat him. It would be a significant success for him if that happens. As for now, Loma's job is just to focus in training and make sure he'll give an impressive win so it will be easy to promote a fight for him. I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
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I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter.
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March 04, 2024, 12:53:48 PM |
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I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter. But not as impressive against boxers who are trying to challenge themselves by aiming to become a pound-for-pound champion. At this stage, Haney and Lopez are considered better than Loma. It's just that Loma gained popularity first because he is an exciting boxer, but not much has happened in his career. He became a champion, but it seems he will stay within his limits, so we can't compare him to champions who are risk takers. As for the latest pound for pound ranking, he is not anymore at the top 10. https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/39192661/boxing-pound-pound-rankings-naoya-inoue-dmitry-bivol-jesse-rodriguez-pick-votes
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I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter. But not as impressive against boxers who are trying to challenge themselves by aiming to become a pound-for-pound champion. At this stage, Haney and Lopez are considered better than Loma. It's just that Loma gained popularity first because he is an exciting boxer, but not much has happened in his career. He became a champion, but it seems he will stay within his limits, so we can't compare him to champions who are risk takers. As for the latest pound for pound ranking, he is not anymore at the top 10. https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/39192661/boxing-pound-pound-rankings-naoya-inoue-dmitry-bivol-jesse-rodriguez-pick-votesI think it really hurt his career when he went on a long hiatus because of the war in his country. I know that he has his duties, no question about it. But when he come back it was a different Loma. Maybe the horrors of the war might have affected him mentally, who knows. In the Haney fight, he try to make a comeback, just like in the Teo fight, but he fell short. He shouldn't be like feeling his opponents early and not let them gain confidence and him mounting a bounce back late in the rounds. So against Kambosos he shouldn't fall for that strategy again.
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I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter. But not as impressive against boxers who are trying to challenge themselves by aiming to become a pound-for-pound champion. At this stage, Haney and Lopez are considered better than Loma. It's just that Loma gained popularity first because he is an exciting boxer, but not much has happened in his career. He became a champion, but it seems he will stay within his limits, so we can't compare him to champions who are risk takers. As for the latest pound for pound ranking, he is not anymore at the top 10. https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/39192661/boxing-pound-pound-rankings-naoya-inoue-dmitry-bivol-jesse-rodriguez-pick-votesI think it really hurt his career when he went on a long hiatus because of the war in his country. I know that he has his duties, no question about it. But when he come back it was a different Loma. Maybe the horrors of the war might have affected him mentally, who knows. In the Haney fight, he try to make a comeback, just like in the Teo fight, but he fell short. He shouldn't be like feeling his opponents early and not let them gain confidence and him mounting a bounce back late in the rounds. So against Kambosos he shouldn't fall for that strategy again. Probably, that's one of the reasons, but what happened has already happened. Loma just needs to accept that and still try to be his best as he chooses to continue his career. He is not done yet as he has another opportunity to prove to the world that he can still become a champion again and continue fighting, bringing that hype again. I just wish that if he wins this, he could have another fight against a fighter that bookies would give a 50/50 chance, not like this one where he is the heavy favorite.
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March 07, 2024, 08:21:05 AM |
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I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter. But not as impressive against boxers who are trying to challenge themselves by aiming to become a pound-for-pound champion. At this stage, Haney and Lopez are considered better than Loma. It's just that Loma gained popularity first because he is an exciting boxer, but not much has happened in his career. He became a champion, but it seems he will stay within his limits, so we can't compare him to champions who are risk takers. As for the latest pound for pound ranking, he is not anymore at the top 10. https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/39192661/boxing-pound-pound-rankings-naoya-inoue-dmitry-bivol-jesse-rodriguez-pick-votesI think it really hurt his career when he went on a long hiatus because of the war in his country. I know that he has his duties, no question about it. But when he come back it was a different Loma. Maybe the horrors of the war might have affected him mentally, who knows. He can't change the course of history mate, it's his duty first before boxing. I think when he come back he still have flushes of his old self. But we have to take into consideration the age as well of Loma, maybe he will not agree or some of us as well here will disagree with me, but it could have affected him as he is not getting any younger and then the quality of his opponents are getting better and better. Let's find it out against Kambosos, with the championship on the line, he could be well motivated again to become a champion and others boxers too are waiting for him for legacy fights like Shakur Stevenson, another Top Rank fighter. So if Loma will win then I'm seeing Arum matching him with Stevenson at the end of the year.
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March 07, 2024, 09:51:28 PM |
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I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter. He will have to stay in this division though, his going to be very small at 140 lbs. And that's what more thing about Loma now, he might be slowing because of his age and that's why we've seen him lost close fight as he started slow, unlike before when he was that Hi-Tech that we know. I'm not sure if he has duck Shakur, but I do agree that this could be a easy fight for him for the belt. Kambosos might be young but I don't think that he is heavy handed or very much bigger that Loma. All Kambosos have is that this fight is in home turf.
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March 08, 2024, 02:48:08 PM |
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I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter. He will have to stay in this division though, his going to be very small at 140 lbs. And that's what more thing about Loma now, he might be slowing because of his age and that's why we've seen him lost close fight as he started slow, unlike before when he was that Hi-Tech that we know. I'm not sure if he has duck Shakur, but I do agree that this could be a easy fight for him for the belt. Kambosos might be young but I don't think that he is heavy handed or very much bigger that Loma. All Kambosos have is that this fight is in home turf. Yes, prime Loma should've started strong early on, quicker and faster to adopt to his opponents' styles. Now I even have doubts on Loma still wanting to become an undisputed champion. I always see Shakur as the better version of Haney and at this stage of their careers he will clearly beat Loma by decision. As for this title fight of Loma, he can showcase what's left in him. He still needs to perform and dominate the fight because he might be in danger of losing another controversial decision in the backyard of Kambosos.
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March 08, 2024, 03:20:22 PM |
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I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter. He will have to stay in this division though, his going to be very small at 140 lbs. And that's what more thing about Loma now, he might be slowing because of his age and that's why we've seen him lost close fight as he started slow, unlike before when he was that Hi-Tech that we know. I'm not sure if he has duck Shakur, but I do agree that this could be a easy fight for him for the belt. Kambosos might be young but I don't think that he is heavy handed or very much bigger that Loma. All Kambosos have is that this fight is in home turf. Yes, prime Loma should've started strong early on, quicker and faster to adopt to his opponents' styles. Now I even have doubts on Loma still wanting to become an undisputed champion. I always see Shakur as the better version of Haney and at this stage of their careers he will clearly beat Loma by decision. As for this title fight of Loma, he can showcase what's left in him. He still needs to perform and dominate the fight because he might be in danger of losing another controversial decision in the backyard of Kambosos. Lots of speculation at this stage about Loma's next possible fight, that's a big disrespect to Kambosos who is trying to be at the top again. Let's take it one step at a time, Shakur is great, no question about that but Loma still has something to offer, and I think if he will ever face Shakur, he has s shot of winning like what he did to Haney which ended in a controversial decision by the way. Loma vs Kambosos, this is the fight to discuss now, after this, we can proceed on our individual speculations.
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March 12, 2024, 09:49:26 PM |
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I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter. He will have to stay in this division though, his going to be very small at 140 lbs. And that's what more thing about Loma now, he might be slowing because of his age and that's why we've seen him lost close fight as he started slow, unlike before when he was that Hi-Tech that we know. I'm not sure if he has duck Shakur, but I do agree that this could be a easy fight for him for the belt. Kambosos might be young but I don't think that he is heavy handed or very much bigger that Loma. All Kambosos have is that this fight is in home turf. Yes, prime Loma should've started strong early on, quicker and faster to adopt to his opponents' styles. Now I even have doubts on Loma still wanting to become an undisputed champion. I always see Shakur as the better version of Haney and at this stage of their careers he will clearly beat Loma by decision. As for this title fight of Loma, he can showcase what's left in him. He still needs to perform and dominate the fight because he might be in danger of losing another controversial decision in the backyard of Kambosos. Yes, we will see what's left of Loma in this fight. If he looks old, or at least our definition of no longer in his prime, can't pull the trigger, hittable or no defense at all, or no longer the hi-tech Loma, then it could be over for him. So George will have to take advantage of it, and really test how Loma is at this point. I'm also not hearing of Loma's trainer? Is he still guided by his father/trainer? I don't want to speculate what happen to his father though.
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March 12, 2024, 11:57:11 PM |
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I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter. If Loma will win on this fight, he may possibly announce his retirement. This will be very good for his boxing career. Not many boxers retired with a victory on their hand. So if he managed to win, better hang the gloves. Unless, he has other plans to take. As of now, Loma is the favourite here. But I am guessing, as the date is getting nearer, the gap between them will also be near with each other.
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March 13, 2024, 06:57:08 AM |
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I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter. If Loma will win on this fight, he may possibly announce his retirement. This will be very good for his boxing career. Not many boxers retired with a victory on their hand. So if he managed to win, better hang the gloves. Unless, he has other plans to take. As of now, Loma is the favourite here. But I am guessing, as the date is getting nearer, the gap between them will also be near with each other. Possible, but I think he might be looking for another big fight, perhaps Shakur Stevenson. Shakur's name has surface as a possible opponent on who ever wins this fight and so that will be a great fight. And for sure, there could be money in the table for Loma to reconsider his options and not to retire as he can clean up the division after he become a champion again. And we wanted to see more of his fight, I think he can still have like a good 2-3 fights before he decided to hang up his gloves for good. For Kambosos part, if he wins then he can regain his old belt and again, will go after Shakur Stevenson as well because that is the fight that make sense.
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March 13, 2024, 07:04:00 AM |
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But not as impressive against boxers who are trying to challenge themselves by aiming to become a pound-for-pound champion. At this stage, Haney and Lopez are considered better than Loma. It's just that Loma gained popularity first because he is an exciting boxer, but not much has happened in his career. He became a champion, but it seems he will stay within his limits, so we can't compare him to champions who are risk takers. As for the latest pound for pound ranking, he is not anymore at the top 10. https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/39192661/boxing-pound-pound-rankings-naoya-inoue-dmitry-bivol-jesse-rodriguez-pick-votesNot everybody has to have a career like Pacquiao or Mayweather to be considered an all time great. Lomachenko is more than just an exciting boxer, he has an impressive résumé to back up his legacy. Every single one of Lomachenko’s opponents from his debut has either been a highly rated contender or a world champion. The only other fighter I can think of who has followed a similar path is Naoya Inoue, but even Inoue fought somebody with a losing record in his second fight. A pound for pound list doesn’t tell the entire story. ESPN and The Ring have Tank Davis in their top 10. The Ring also has Errol Spence on theirs. These are fighters who could only ever dream of having the career Loma has had, because there is a 0% chance they will even come close to Loma’s accomplishments.
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