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February 10, 2024, 08:56:16 AM
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After more than 3 weeks of waiting, there is still zero solution. Also on Casinu Guru you can read several comparable complaints with sports betting winnings confiscated, from people all over the world. My case is not alone. Whenever you win in sports, Coins.game confiscate your winnings and simply call it "fraud" even if you have not violated any specific terms. An absolute scam and I feel the need to warn others for this.
So a flag has been created and can be supported here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3280

And, as a last resort I will submit my case to a Curacao lawyer who works on a no-cure-no-pay basis and had several successes in court in the past. Will keep you update about that ofcourse.
I am observing your case since Jan 20th after I responded to you. In the mean time one of the forum member requested me to have an investigation about you and after reading the points he made, I was interested to spend my time in it. I am in contact with some of the gambling platforms you had problems in the past. One of them already responded the inquiry I had from them. But I need a few more response before I make a report about my investigation. So, I am not going to make a conclusion yet.

However, I will request forum members not to response the flag yet. Once I have my full report then I will publish it [keeping the information hidden like, players name, sportsbook name so that it does not conflict with the legal things].

I hope I handled this post good enough that it does not go against OP or against any sportsbook who had problem with him so far.

I initially wanted to send their representative a PM, another invitation to revisit this case and see whether to support or oppose the flag based on their reaction and/or development of the case after the PM. But I will refrain to do so, or anything at all, until I hear more from you about this. Please keep us updated.

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February 10, 2024, 12:58:53 PM
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After more than 3 weeks of waiting, there is still zero solution. Also on Casinu Guru you can read several comparable complaints with sports betting winnings confiscated, from people all over the world. My case is not alone. Whenever you win in sports, Coins.game confiscate your winnings and simply call it "fraud" even if you have not violated any specific terms. An absolute scam and I feel the need to warn others for this.
So a flag has been created and can be supported here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3280

And, as a last resort I will submit my case to a Curacao lawyer who works on a no-cure-no-pay basis and had several successes in court in the past. Will keep you update about that ofcourse.
I am observing your case since Jan 20th after I responded to you. In the mean time one of the forum member requested me to have an investigation about you and after reading the points he made, I was interested to spend my time in it. I am in contact with some of the gambling platforms you had problems in the past. One of them already responded the inquiry I had from them. But I need a few more response before I make a report about my investigation. So, I am not going to make a conclusion yet.

However, I will request forum members not to response the flag yet. Once I have my full report then I will publish it [keeping the information hidden like, players name, sportsbook name so that it does not conflict with the legal things].

I hope I handled this post good enough that it does not go against OP or against any sportsbook who had problem with him so far.

I’m really interested to read the result on this interesting investigation. I was planning to do the same since I’m intrigued how the OP have problem on multiple casino that always related to sportsbook. My curiosity is not in a negative way but to knew what’s really the reason why they always confiscate the winnings while there’s no clear reason on their action that later on to overturning the result.

I just hope that you will mention that the OP have similar problem in other casino when you conduct the investigation to each casino involved to make the result fair and not bias to the fact that OP has an active issue.

Overall, You are doing an awesome job especially if this is for free. Keep it up!

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February 10, 2024, 05:32:35 PM
Last edit: April 10, 2024, 10:47:47 AM by hilariousandco
 #43

After more than 3 weeks of waiting, there is still zero solution. Also on Casinu Guru you can read several comparable complaints with sports betting winnings confiscated, from people all over the world. My case is not alone. Whenever you win in sports, Coins.game confiscate your winnings and simply call it "fraud" even if you have not violated any specific terms. An absolute scam and I feel the need to warn others for this.
So a flag has been created and can be supported here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3280

And, as a last resort I will submit my case to a Curacao lawyer who works on a no-cure-no-pay basis and had several successes in court in the past. Will keep you update about that ofcourse.
I am observing your case since Jan 20th after I responded to you. In the mean time one of the forum member requested me to have an investigation about you and after reading the points he made, I was interested to spend my time in it. I am in contact with some of the gambling platforms you had problems in the past. One of them already responded the inquiry I had from them. But I need a few more response before I make a report about my investigation. So, I am not going to make a conclusion yet.

However, I will request forum members not to response the flag yet. Once I have my full report then I will publish it [keeping the information hidden like, players name, sportsbook name so that it does not conflict with the legal things].

I hope I handled this post good enough that it does not go against OP or against any sportsbook who had problem with him so far.

I’m really interested to read the result on this interesting investigation. I was planning to do the same since I’m intrigued how the OP have problem on multiple casino that always related to sportsbook. My curiosity is not in a negative way but to knew what’s really the reason why they always confiscate the winnings while there’s no clear reason on their action that later on to overturning the result.

I just hope that you will mention that the OP have similar problem in other casino when you conduct the investigation to each casino involved to make the result fair and not bias to the fact that OP has an active issue.

Overall, You are doing an awesome job especially if this is for free. Keep it up!

Wow....an investigation against me? That is crazy. First of all, it would be against the rules of sportsbooks to give out my personal data to strangers, so I would be highly surprised if they do that.
Second of all, do you guys realize that I have been a member here for almost 5 years and I have had 5 scam accusations in this time.....it does not take a rocket scientist to know that I have not played with 5 books in this time and had 5 times problems. I already told I have used about 100 books in these 5 years and had problems with just 5. And ofcourse you won't see me opening topics about the 95 books where all went fine because people just don't do that.
And then third and most importantly: ALL of the scam accusations I opened in the past have been solved with the books paying me in full. Apart from one, Coinplay.
So what more proof do you need that I am on the right side? A book confiscating winnings and then reversing their decision....you must be really in the right as a player to get that done.

I can save you the time of your investigation. It's very very simple. I am just a good bettor and in the long term I win more than I lose. Nothing fraudulent about that, and 95 out of the 100 books just limit your stakes and pay you out (which is how it should be). But the scam ones just confiscate it all.
Wow, did I really just (have to) defend myself? This is getting crazier by the day....

After more than 3 weeks of waiting, there is still zero solution. Also on Casinu Guru you can read several comparable complaints with sports betting winnings confiscated, from people all over the world. My case is not alone. Whenever you win in sports, Coins.game confiscate your winnings and simply call it "fraud" even if you have not violated any specific terms. An absolute scam and I feel the need to warn others for this.
So a flag has been created and can be supported here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3280

And, as a last resort I will submit my case to a Curacao lawyer who works on a no-cure-no-pay basis and had several successes in court in the past. Will keep you update about that ofcourse.
I am observing your case since Jan 20th after I responded to you. In the mean time one of the forum member requested me to have an investigation about you and after reading the points he made, I was interested to spend my time in it. I am in contact with some of the gambling platforms you had problems in the past. One of them already responded the inquiry I had from them. But I need a few more response before I make a report about my investigation. So, I am not going to make a conclusion yet.

However, I will request forum members not to response the flag yet. Once I have my full report then I will publish it [keeping the information hidden like, players name, sportsbook name so that it does not conflict with the legal things].

I hope I handled this post good enough that it does not go against OP or against any sportsbook who had problem with him so far.

It's very interesting that you will have contact with the sportsbooks I had problems with in the past, knowing that THEY SOLVED THE CASE WITH ME.
BC.game, Owl.games, Buff.bet and Wintomato.com......very interesting to hear what they will say about what I did "wrong". And how they explain why they still decided to reverse their decision and pay me out eventually. The only one that did not solve the case with me was Coinplay.com. Good luck contacting them as they are completely unresponsive and don't care about anything.
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February 10, 2024, 05:49:44 PM
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They will not give an explanation, that is the whole problem. Confiscation without a reason is a scam.

I understand your position but I don't think it makes much difference whether I support the flag now or next week, I just wouldn't want to rush into it. I just learned about it now. I hadn't read your thread before today. So I'm just going to wait a bit and see what other people say also.
I do not think they will specify a reason for locking the fund. But the answer which a gambling site shares almost the same info that has been shared on the OP. So, I think the answer you may get on the OP, and let's see if they share any specified reason.
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February 27, 2024, 04:33:38 AM
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My Curacao lawyer has taken on the case today and he said he rates the chance of success very high. We agreed a percentage on a no cure, no pay deal so if it does not work I will at least not suffer more damage than I have already done. It could ofcourse take several months up to a year, but I will report any updates here.
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February 28, 2024, 04:28:35 PM
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My Curacao lawyer has taken on the case today and he said he rates the chance of success very high. We agreed a percentage on a no cure, no pay deal so if it does not work I will at least not suffer more damage than I have already done. It could ofcourse take several months up to a year, but I will report any updates here.

I know that lawyer, he is haunting on these casino's since 2018 but I want to inform you also that this laywer does not have any knowledge at all about gambling.
For me, there is no doubt that you won your money fair, but without legal action this casino does not pay. Hope you will have some luck with this laywer which is for sure SBGOK.
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February 28, 2024, 06:40:45 PM
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My Curacao lawyer has taken on the case today and he said he rates the chance of success very high. We agreed a percentage on a no cure, no pay deal so if it does not work I will at least not suffer more damage than I have already done. It could ofcourse take several months up to a year, but I will report any updates here.

I know that lawyer, he is haunting on these casino's since 2018 but I want to inform you also that this laywer does not have any knowledge at all about gambling.
For me, there is no doubt that you won your money fair, but without legal action this casino does not pay. Hope you will have some luck with this laywer which is for sure SBGOK.

No, it's not. It is actually a different lawyer. But I will not share his name in public.
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March 08, 2024, 03:53:29 PM
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While we would like to provide evidence, doing so would expose our investigative methods and potentially enable individuals to bypass our system.

You can send your proofs to a trusted member to avoid any future problems. As it is now, it seems that you simply confiscated user funds which is not acceptaple.

To me, user bets are normal and he deserves to paid every penny.

Bad idea. It will only be a burden for that trusted member to verify the claim, not to mention they probably doesn't have a way to verify it. This is a sport-related bets, thus CasinoGuru are quite unlikely to be willing to facilitate a mediation. I've taken a peek and see that Coins is on AskGamblers.

Gekke, I am sure you already know how to raise a complaint on their platform.

Yes, already submitted a complaint.
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March 08, 2024, 04:22:13 PM
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a few days ago the VIP manager wrote to me and asked if I wanted to make a deposit.
I said no because they were starting to deceive players and gave him a link to this topic.
They know and see everything, but they don’t care, I think it’s just a scam. and sad oblivion awaits them.
stupid admin, could have been a cool casino but became crap.
It’s good that we have Bitcoin Talk, a unique place.
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