Craig is a mentally sick son of a bitch. Nobody would care.
Look at the mountain of evidence proving o_e_l_e_o was knowingly lying to Bitcointalk users to trick them out of gaining privacy on their Bitcoins so the custodian he was promoting could steal those Bitcoins and turn the data of those Bitcointalk users over to the government: Did you count whether Craig has lied about being Satoshi more times than o_e_l_e_o lied about Wasabi users being spied on?
What a miserable person. Unbelievably! If this is how the folks behind Wasabi Wallet act, I don't think I'd feel real confident using their product. Whether this guy actually works for em or is just some shill it don't really matter - he basically showed that they got some issues with how they treat people. I ain't tryin' to be mean, but his behavior here was definitely outta line and the guys gotta get it together.
What does this complaint have to do with the evidence proving o_e_l_e_o was knowingly lying to Bitcointalk users to trick them out of gaining privacy on their Bitcoins so the custodian he was promoting could steal those Bitcoins and turn the data of those Bitcointalk users over to the government? You can always have confidence when using Wasabi because every line of code is open source.
Have some respect, that person may literally lose his life and here you are whining about what he said in the past. No one cares about your little bitcoin project. You are retarded
I may lose my life too, so why aren't you holding o_e_l_e_o accountable for spreading lies about flaws in untraceable privacy software?
100% Pathetic, and recipe how to ruin reputation in forum.
Thanks for calling o_e_l_e_o out for the pathetic way he ruined his reputation. Like satoshi said, "the main benefits are lost if a trusted third party is still required to prevent double-spending", but o_e_l_e_o chose to lie about noncustodial open source projects to get people to trust third parties.
You don't have to wish someone else died because dead doesn't best suit for anyone out there but we must know that it's something inevitable and any one earth I mean everyone must surely face it, so don't wish else did or would you afford to die for anyone out there? Of curse No because I know life is sweet and Good every one out there would love to enjoy more good things about life instead of to leave the world just like that.
No one ever wished someone else died. This thread is about o_e_l_e_o was knowingly lying to Bitcointalk users to trick them out of gaining privacy on their Bitcoins so the custodian he was promoting could steal those Bitcoins and turn the data of those Bitcointalk users over to the government.
If you think that leo attacks you in your previous comments that doesn't mean that he is a mortal or not but you should know that he is passing good information because I know that leo is a very learned user and not just that, he is also reputable forum user who they so much respected over here.
o_e_l_e_o is not "learned" at all, you can see how he was spreading lies about address reuse being a "flaw" in coinjoins, which directly contradicts gmaxwell's and Peter Todd's reasoned explanations:
In practice I expect most users only want to prevent nosy friends (and thieves) from prying into their financial lives, and to recover some of the privacy they lost due to bad practices like address reuse.
That's not Wasabi fucking up, that's Wasabi users fucking up. Wasabi, they fundamentally are not in a position where they can go prevent people from installing the same seed on multiple wallets at once and using it on multiple wallets at once. It's not reasonable for them to go prevent that. Also, when you talk about address reuse, for instance, if I'm a Samourai user and I reuse an address that's an input to a coinjoin, well I mean that's just something you can expect to support. There is no way for a coinjoin implementation to reasonably prevent that. And there's also good use cases for it, maybe I want to have a public donation address, but then I want to preserve the privacy of the coins that get sent to that donation address and where they go. That's an obvious thing I can go do. Similarly, on the other side of this, when I could have a Wasabi Wallet and I could use that wallet to make donations to a singular donation address. Again, that's coins taken from the coinjoin and going to the same place. In both cases, addresses are being reused. It doesn't matter how many steps you add before and after that process, the fact is addresses are being reused either before or after the coinjoin for completely reasonable reasons. It's just not in their position to try to prevent that, there's no reason they should.
When o_e_l_e_o was challenged on his honesty by being showed address reuse that was a result of actual bugs in a project he previously recommended, he simply pretends the problem was "already fixed" instead of admitting address reuse is not a flaw in coinjoins:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286821.msg62090164#msg62090164Then he claims he will stop recommending that project if further address reuse bugs were discovered. Then I discovered another address reuse bug in his project:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286821.msg62930328#msg62930328You have to know how to be a gentleman in situations like this, in my language we say that you have to be a gentleman in victory and in defeat and Kruw has not been one.
Fuck being a "gentleman", I'm a Bitcoiner. Bitcoiners tell the truth. And the truth is, o_e_l_e_o was knowingly lying to Bitcointalk users to trick them out of gaining privacy on their Bitcoins so the custodian he was promoting could steal those Bitcoins and turn the data of those Bitcointalk users over to the government.
Sorry for using some foul language, Mr. Kruw, but you're such a dick. A miserable one!
Do you think you are a god or something like that?
The proof presented is against o_e_l_e_o, why are you flaming me? Did you mean "Sorry for using some foul language, Mr. o_e_l_e_o, but you're such a dick! A miserable one! Do you think you are a god or something like that?"
Am I in the wrong campaign?
If you are in the Wasabi signature campaign and you support scamming people out of their Bitcoins with "mixing sites", then yes, you are in the wrong campaign since Wasabi is non custodial, zero knowledge software.
I felt this was a nasty piece too over something so...petty.
If it bugs you that much why not PM?
Do you care about bitcointalk trust system so much you'd talk bad about em to em on their deathbed?
At this point community loses it purpose for you and you should step out for a bit.
Even if he removes it, we will remember you said that.
That's the point, I want everyone to remember the proof that o_e_l_e_o was knowingly lying to Bitcointalk users to trick them out of gaining privacy on their Bitcoins so the custodian he was promoting could steal those Bitcoins and turn the data of those Bitcointalk users over to the government.
Why are you addressing your own wallet as "Bitcoin"?
o_e_l_e_o wasn't just lying about Wasabi Wallet, he attacked multiple other open source projects (BTCPay Server and Trezor) with false accusations.
I have followed the debate very closely, and have read most of your posts and Leo's, he never criticized Bitcoin or Coinjoin privacy, and he explicitly criticized your wallet's address reuse and its association with chain analysis, since you can't be a gentleman and show sympathy to someone who is very sick, the least you could do is not accuse them of something they never did.
Did you hear gmaxwell's explanation about address reuse?
In practice I expect most users only want to prevent nosy friends (and thieves) from prying into their financial lives, and to recover some of the privacy they lost due to bad practices like address reuse.
Did you hear Peter Todd's explanation about address reuse?
That's not Wasabi fucking up, that's Wasabi users fucking up. Wasabi, they fundamentally are not in a position where they can go prevent people from installing the same seed on multiple wallets at once and using it on multiple wallets at once. It's not reasonable for them to go prevent that. Also, when you talk about address reuse, for instance, if I'm a Samourai user and I reuse an address that's an input to a coinjoin, well I mean that's just something you can expect to support. There is no way for a coinjoin implementation to reasonably prevent that. And there's also good use cases for it, maybe I want to have a public donation address, but then I want to preserve the privacy of the coins that get sent to that donation address and where they go. That's an obvious thing I can go do. Similarly, on the other side of this, when I could have a Wasabi Wallet and I could use that wallet to make donations to a singular donation address. Again, that's coins taken from the coinjoin and going to the same place. In both cases, addresses are being reused. It doesn't matter how many steps you add before and after that process, the fact is addresses are being reused either before or after the coinjoin for completely reasonable reasons. It's just not in their position to try to prevent that, there's no reason they should.
BlackHatCoiner, why are you spreading the same lies that o_e_l_e_o is being exposed for in this very thread?
So you must be immortal and above him and everyone else in this forum, you are above us all as übermensch
Nobody asked you for your opinion about his health condition, but so much negativity is coming from you that I would never use anything you are shilling.
Time for you to go and visit a shrink, I wish you speedy recovery.
My comments aren't about o_e_l_e_o's health condition, I'm exposing how o_e_l_e_o was knowingly lying to Bitcointalk users to trick them out of gaining privacy on their Bitcoins so the custodian he was promoting could steal those Bitcoins and turn the data of those Bitcointalk users over to the government.
We are called humans because we have human nature. It's not easy to be in Leo's position, and one day we will also be in his position. Remember friends, we don't live forever. There is a lot of hatred in this world, but in certain conditions we need to prioritize humanity over ego and hatred.
Maybe one day I will make the same thread as Leo, and I'm sure I will miss you all, miss the friendship and enmity that exists here.
Everyone is in o_e_l_e_o's position since no one live forever, that doesn't excuse him attacking innocent open source non custodial privacy projects by accusing them of having fake flaws, does it?
I've seen similarly abhorrent behavior from Samourai devs and their community. If somebody associated with Wasabi had suffered a misfortune I guarantee the trolling would be 10x worse.
The Samourai developers are truly pieces of shit. They flaunted a picture of the pioneer of JoinMarket on his sickbed on Twitter and mocked him -
https://twitter.com/SamouraiDev/status/1733848330772283424When I felt he was misinformed I did my best to provide a counterargument and moved on. Getting personal and mudslinging when someone is trying to respectfully depart from this forum only undermines one's position.
There's absolutely no mudslinging here. I'm providing the facts and the timeline that exposes o_e_l_e_o once and for all.
You don't need to be excited for someone illness, now you wanna attack him back because of his condition or you are mocking him because what he put in writing concerning his life, buddy you don't have to do that because life is like a spinning table and also inevitable, when you mock someone one God will put you in shoe of that person.
I'm not attacking o_e_l_e_o because of his condition, I'm exposing how o_e_l_e_o was knowingly lying to Bitcointalk users to trick them out of gaining privacy on their Bitcoins so the custodian he was promoting could steal those Bitcoins and turn the data of those Bitcointalk users over to the government.
Bro, you are entitled to all your opinions, but at times, we should be more human and be insensitive.
What I see you doing here is so insensitive. Fine, you and the guy could have had one or two issues together, but it is just a forum where we share opinions, and nothing more. We could be trolled at times or even get so angry but it shouldn't be unto death. This person is dying and what you could do is to be engaging in all sorts like this? It is certainly not fair.
The best you could have done is to just ignore the thread if you still hold a grudge against him. Let's be human for once.
This isn't a matter of "one or two issues" or "opinions": Did you know o_e_l_e_o was knowingly lying to Bitcointalk users to trick them out of gaining privacy on their Bitcoins so the custodian he was promoting could steal those Bitcoins and turn the data of those Bitcointalk users over to the government?
Shhhhh, its Samourai devs who are supposed to be morally repugnant.
Did you see the Samourai devs mocking the innocent once they become ill?
https://twitter.com/SamouraiDev/status/1733848330772283424I would never mock the innocent. I only expose the guilty.
If this guy is a Dev and this is his moral then I don't think there is a reason to Trust Wasabi wallet.
You don't have to trust Wasabi, it's trustless open source software. Regardless, I'm not a dev anyways.
I wonder what is the thought of the people involved in the signature campaign including the manager involved in it. On the other hand, there were some other issues related to Wasabi wallet in the past. The forum does not moderate advertising except mixers in the recent days but I think as the member of the community we really need to avoid such projects that has people with low moral.
What are the "other issues related to Wasabi Wallet in the past"?
Someday something may go wrong and they will wish you to die. They may even expose your coin and report it to the agencies who are looking for your information.
No one can "expose your coin and report it to the agencies" when you use Wasabi, it's anonymous software.
I saw that you left a feedback in OP's profile and the feedback read thus; Shameful behavior rejoicing in the upcoming death of one of the best members of the forum, the champion of earned merit o_e_l_e_o
I was shocked at the write up and as well as o_e_l_e_o farewell thread. How are you very sure that o_e_l_e_o will die? Common! This guy could survive this even against his believe. Let's be optimistic and expect the best.
Why would anyone call o_e_l_e_o "one of the best members of the forum" since he was knowingly lying to Bitcointalk users to trick them out of gaining privacy on their Bitcoins so the custodian he was promoting could steal those Bitcoins and turn the data of those Bitcointalk users over to the government?
After seeing what has happened here, I have just communicated to the manager icopress that I will not continue in the Wasabi campaign because it goes against my moral principles. I will simply wait until the end of the week tomorrow and I will remove my signature.
I am not going to hold anything against those who will remain in the campaign or those who still have dealings with him but I simply can't continue.
Can you explain to me what moral principles prevent you from supporting non custodial anonymous money?
I'm starting to think Kruw hated wasabi more than anyone here, there is no way someone could have done a better attack on their reputation than this one, I'm seeing a thing that is supposed to be a human lifeform dancing on somebody's grave with a sign "Shoot me I'm a moron" in his hand!
What about o_e_l_e_o's fake attacks on Wasabi's reputation by lying to people about being spied on?
I've seen some of your posts and was kind of surprised by the way you see the things.
But this topic shows clearly, if it was still needed, the true you.
Sadly.
What posts are you talking about what what are you surprised by?
I can not verify the source but so far my understanding, he is one of the Dev. A complete piece of junk.
Why are you looking for proof that I'm a dev when I'm not?... You should be looking at the proof that o_e_l_e_o was knowingly lying to Bitcointalk users to trick them out of gaining privacy on their Bitcoins so the custodian he was promoting could steal those Bitcoins and turn the data of those Bitcointalk users over to the government.
From afar, and having read many of your posts o_e_l_e_o, I'm compelled to confess that you made a tremendous impact on this forum. I feel saddened by this health issue of yours. I hope a miracle happens that turns things around for you.
The impact o_e_l_e_o made caused users to lose their Bitcoins and have their data turned over to the government. His deliberate miseducation on Bitcoin privacy topics poisoned this entire community.
For the sake of the discussion, I don't believe Samourai devs are saint either. I mean, they are orders of magnitude more trustworthy than Wasabi, and I'm a whirlpool user myself, but we frequently notice Samourai vs. Wasabi disputes which ruin the reputation of both.
You told everyone not to use Wasabi because people reuse addresses, why do you use Whirlpool if they reuse addresses?
Deliberately disregarding every argument against Wasabi, resorting to whataboutism, and repeatedly using the same soundbites, accusing signature campaign participants of stealing users' coins without providing any evidence, believing that blacklisting in Bitcoin is sometimes necessary-- overall, his ethics seem to be a perplexing area.
The evidence is your
literal confession, you
literal scammer:
I really can't believe this is an exit scam. The service seemed legitimate.
I'm really pissed off, and not because I lost money; fortunately, I had grasped that "don't leave coins to third parties" cliché. I'm so pissed off because I've been advertising and recommending this shit for months, in such a way that I'm practically part of this scam. And it's just feels awful.
It makes you question the integrity of the service you're currently carrying in your signature.
Regardless of how we might feel about a person, their character, morals, religion, or whatever we should still be able to show a person compassion and be empathetic to their situation.
Every single 1 of us is going to face health issues in life. You may or may not still be an active user on this forum. You may or may not be a likeable member.
If you post about a health situation you are facing, do you want people to ridicule you or post bad things for their own agenda? It's pretty shameful behavior.
That's my point. If everyone is going to die, why are you praising someone who was exposed for knowingly lying to Bitcointalk users to trick them out of gaining privacy on their Bitcoins so the custodian he was promoting could steal those Bitcoins and turn the data of those Bitcointalk users over to the government?
You are Piece of excrement.
Why do you think I'm a "Piece of excrement" for trying to save people from o_e_l_e_o scamming them out of their Bitcoins and financial data using custodians?
I can't believe reading what's being said by a human to human. If ppl have different opinions they shouldn't let their humanity die when they discover bad news. When I've been active in my EPS or bitcoin topics Leo's posted to helped. He's helped ppl for a long time so his forum status can't be changed but Kruw won't be considered a good person. He won't leave the forum it doesn't matter because his rep's going to be blacklisted look his trust's in free fall.
You misunderstand - o_e_l_e_o doesn't have a "different opinion", he was knowingly lying to Bitcointalk users to trick them out of gaining privacy on their Bitcoins so the custodian he was promoting could steal those Bitcoins and turn the data of those Bitcointalk users over to the government.
A massive, steaming pile of it on a hot summer day, surrounded by flies.
Disgusting behaviour by the OP, he should he ashamed of himself.
What's disgusting about trying to save people from o_e_l_e_o scamming them out of their Bitcoins and financial data using custodians? Why should I be ashamed for getting people to use Bitcoin non custodially and anonymously?
Two things got me upset about this thread, the first is that OP created this just to draw the curtain on the reputation of someone who doesn't like his own idea or concept, I can't believe that what has been discussed and become past are still still resurrecting in your mind with Leo to the extent that you're taking it personal, if I don't like the concept with wasabi doesn't mean we should take that mentality to affect our human relations.
Not to the point of someone dieing and you're not still concerned about anything than to keep ressurecting dead discussions about wasabi, how is discussion on Bitcointalk has much to do about our relationship with others and personal life, the talk in Bitcointalk gives everyone right to talk his own, even if we are not ok bu it, if you can be this carlos in proxy, I wonder how terrible you will be in real life.
The idea and concept of having noncustodial anonymous money is the only thing stopping the world from becoming a dystopia. It's always worth it to resurrect discussions to ensure people are educated about the threat of trusted third parties.
What do we care about you because you are nothing more than a human being who never used the left brain or the right brain while being human.
If you have used the two functions of the left brain and the right brain, then you will not have thoughts like that.
Even though it's useless to respond to your rotten thoughts towards someone who has taught many users who have just joined the forum through his thoughts in every post, one of them is me who learned a lot from him.
o_e_l_e_o miseducated Bitcointalk users to trick them out of gaining privacy on their Bitcoins so the custodian he was promoting could steal those Bitcoins and turn the data of those Bitcointalk users over to the government.
I’ve been going over every line in your OP, quote and all but yet, I still can’t wrap my head at the character you seem to portray here. I remain in some disbelief as to how inhuman you chose to portray yourself over the hurt to a family, forum and people in the life of one who would be seen for an icon/idol to many over some claims. Like, this unique personality’s demise doesn’t mean nothing to you… am disgusted and you don’t act like one that should belong with any community.
I've updated the OP with multiple years of proof of o_e_l_e_o's deceptive behavior.
The Op is just being a sadist. Harboring a grudge on someone who won't know you exist soon enough is the highest form of stupidity for me. So, what? Because o_e_l_e_o called you out on your shit coin and you decided that the best way to avenge is to care less about his death or be happy about it? Dude if I were you, I'd go do something productive with my life. Seems you are lacking inspo and you feel taking a pass at him will get you some form of satisfaction, eh?.
o_e_l_e_o didn't "call out a shit coin", he fabricated lies about non custodial open source Bitcoin projects that provide complete privacy for your transactions without trusting any third parties.
You even opening a thread about it just shows how low of a thinker you are. I hope you're happy you're getting replies to this sick thread.
I didn't open the thread, staff did.
OP, you shouldn't forget that no one is immortal, and we are going to die soon, and no one will live here forever. Nobody knows who is going to die next, and stop acting like you are in the better position to judge others, because your own judgment awaits you someday. Leo has done more good to the forum than you. You don't need to be happy over someone's departure from the world, this is how people will also be happy when you die.
I can't wait for my posts to be scoured and judged because I live my life honestly.
OP has made his own mistakes and harmed himself which makes him bad on this forum because of his stupidity who has no conscience forgiving people who are no longer there. And it's a shame, because most people will take good care of their profile so they don't want their reputation to be tarnished with red ink, no matter how small, it will have fatal consequences if they don't take care of it.
What mistakes have I made? Provide a direct quote, and I'll correct it.
The quality of a person's life lies when we have forgiven people who have hurt us or whatever it is with sincerity so that that person lives or dies in a calm and peaceful state, and I really don't like OP's attitude because it only shows that the quality is very low, even lower than land.
Uhh, no. Victims forgive people who hurt others, heroes defeat people who hurt others. Heroes are higher quality than victims, that's why I've chosen to be a hero and expose o_e_l_e_o's years of attacking open source non custodial Bitcoin privacy projects.
