Wasabi, Kruw, users and supporters of their low morals

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

There are no question anyone will have that Kruw's moral is low and mentally ill

Good riddance o_e_l_e_o.  No one else I've interacted with on this forum has done more damage to the future of Bitcoin and future of freedom than you.  Even after your involvement with the Chipmixer scam, you knowlingy spread continuous lies about privacy weaknesses in Bitcoin that do not exist. Your scheme of tricking people into giving up their data and stealing their coins will finally come to an end.

Ninjastic: https://ninjastic.space/post/63517379

It continues even in a separate thread.

This is a pathetic post. I would delete it if I were you. This is just proving the kind of person you are. Someone is ill and you say you are happy. Good luck in your life...

Why should I excuse or forgive o_e_l_e_o's continuous attacks on Bitcoin just because he's mortal?

Kruw and Wasabi team are lying constantly.

Could you publicly say that WasabiWallet is still technically permissionless and trustless? Because I believe some people are still promoting it in that way.

The Wasabi team lie constantly.

Here's a post I made a year ago highlighting some of the lies on their website: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286821.msg60337199#msg60337199. Nothing has changed in the last year.

Here's a post where I link to the devs lying on Twitter about the issue of address reuse: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5419000.msg61220171#msg61220171

The Wasabi team have no problem lying about their product in order to make themselves profits.
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Ninjastic: https://ninjastic.space/post/62422359

Wasabi team supports censorship and think it's the right way.

If people are not convinced yet that wasabi devs are incompetent clowns, here are a few notable assertions from the podcast:

You’re changing the acceptance of which coins do you consider valid—not on the Bitcoin consensus layer—that’s the other important thing. Bitcoin consensus is still permissionless and decentralized enough that you can make payments even if you are blacklisted: you can just either get hashrate yourself or bribe a miner to hash a block with your transaction in it—so Bitcoin works. But what we’re talking about here is: will you get access to someone else’s computer? Will someone else allow you to write stuff on his computer, basically? And in my opinion, ultimately it comes down to property rights. A coordinator is just someone else’s computer—and it’s not yours. So you ought to be quite thankful that someone actually provides you a service where you can use his computer for certain things like coordinating a round.

This guy just asserted that my decision to join my inputs with someone else is the same as taking control of his computer.  He also stated that blacklisting does not happen on Bitcoin because you could bribe a miner, which is not true.  The reason you do not get blacklisted is because it is censorship resistant.  A mining pool blacklisting transactions would directly attack their revenue and reputation, but even if it did not, then some other pool would mine it sooner or later.

By the way why doesn't the same apply on coinjoin?  "Coinjoin consensus is still permissionless and decentralized enough that you can make payments even if you are blacklisted: you can just leave Wasasi and use a censorship resistant alternative".  

But then the more pressing matter is it’s not always gonna be clear-cut, especially when you start making transactions, especially when you have things like CoinSwap, Lightning, PayJoin—we’re working really hard to make the life of chain surveillance miserable, and that means that they’re gonna have many more false positives.

This is the plan guys!  They are paying a blockchain analysis company so that they can verify beforehand that their product becomes less and less accurate!  
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The default Wasabi Wallet coordinator will start censoring "illegal" UTXOs
Scammer lead developer resigns from honeypot Wasabi Wallet
Wasabi blacklisting update - open letter / 24 questions discussion thread

Wasabi's questionable privacy practice

Wasabi has been reusing addresses, a lot, which has resulted in a lot of post-mix coins being linked back to pre-mix coins and being de-anonymized. And then the devs have been on Twitter, both defending that it is "acceptable" and also lying about it entirely.

Here's an example thread: https://nitter.it/HillebrandMax/status/1586249382097088512#m
Gets shown address reuse, claims it isn't from 2.0 and that it has never happened in 2.0. Then gets shown address reuse from 2.0, and says they've already patched it. How could they have patched it while also claiming it has never happened? They are lying somewhere.

Here's another example: https://nitter.it/ErgoBTC/status/1585671294783311872#m
And dozens more: https://nitter.it/wasabistats

But the devs don't care, because apparently some address reuse is "acceptable": https://nitter.it/HillebrandMax/status/1586321068129939456#m

Ninjastic: https://ninjastic.space/post/61220171

Wasabi is doxxing their competitors.

Nope, haven't moved at all. Just waiting for an example:

You already received multiple examples, why would you require more besides the ones I already gave you?

No, I'm talking about this: https://nitter.it/SamouraiWallet/status/1647936591417995264

Pay attention, this is the article published on April 27th:  https://nopara73.medium.com/samouraileaks-samouraidevs-sockpuppet-exposed-7ce654b92c0b

You are attacking the wrong people.  A Wasabi developer exposing the Samourai developer using sock puppets to deceive social media users out of their Bitcoins is not "doxxing".

Liar and faking.
Ninjastic: https://ninjastic.space/post/62421991

Thanks to the friend who helped me with giving the information.

In a nutshell when you are using wasabi and advertising it, you are helping a team who are
[1.] Morally down and wish your death
[2.] Lying to you constantly
[3.] Supporting censorship and do not care about bitcoin and your privacy
[4.] ignorant and do not have basic practice idea of handling bitcoin addresses
[5.] thinking it is fine to doxxing their competitor and then lying again.

Wasabi is a scam!
Boycott Wasabi, educate others to avoid using Wasabi, forward this information to the people who are helping Wasabi.

[I am making this topic self-moderating to filter known trolls]

[mrust_mobile]

Isn't W**abi or any other service which offers a "mixing" service illegal on this forum since the beginning of this month? If promoting mixers is illegal now, promoting W**abi should be a ban offense too. The mods should delete every thread that is about W**abi. (probably this one too)

[Z-tight]

Isn't W**abi or any other service which offers a "mixing" service illegal on this forum since the beginning of this month? If promoting mixers is illegal now, promoting W**abi should be a ban offense too. The mods should delete every thread that is about W**abi. (probably this one too)

Theymos banned only mixers, and Wasabi is not a mixer, it is a CoinJoin implementation. I should add that you don't have to censor names of mixers, it is allowed, just don't link people to mixers or advertise mixers in your signature and avatar.

Examples of things that are not banned mixers include exchangers (unless they have a mixing function), CoinJoin-supporting non-custodial wallets, and Monero.

[Charles-Tim]

Isn't W**abi or any other service which offers a "mixing" service illegal on this forum since the beginning of this month? If promoting mixers is illegal now, promoting W**abi should be a ban offense too. The mods should delete every thread that is about W**abi. (probably this one too)

Mixers (centralized mixing services) are banned but those that provide decentralized mixing service (on noncustodial wallet) like Whirlpool of Sparrow and Samourai, Coinjoin of Jointmarket and Wabisabi of Wasabi are not banned.

Theymos banned only mixers, and Wasabi is not a mixer, it is a CoinJoin implementation.

Theymos may not categorize them as mixers, but literally they are mixers. In short, they are referred to as decentralized mixers.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Theymos banned only mixers, and Wasabi is not a mixer, it is a CoinJoin implementation.

Theymos may not categorize them as mixers, but literally they are mixers. In short, they are referred to as decentralized mixers.

What I get is Theymos wants to stay away from trouble but he is making some exceptions when it is necessary. Mixers are not illegal, they are important to break your links. Theymos is still soft for a few mixers who are advertising them as not a mixer but basic business model is the same as mixers.

[LoyceV]

Wasabi is doxxing their competitors.

This reminded me of another case: Red trust on ~. Back then, Wasabi was promoted in another thread, and the Wasabi lovers tagged the thread creator who responded to it for not trusting Wasabi. It's ironic, because back then Wasabi was supposed to be a great new privacy feature. How the tables turned....

I only now notice the use of Wasabiwąllet. I'm not sure why.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Wasabi is doxxing their competitors.

This reminded me of another case: Red trust on ~. Back then, Wasabi was promoted in another thread, and the Wasabi lovers tagged the thread creator who responded to it for not trusting Wasabi. It's ironic, because back then Wasabi was supposed to be a great new privacy feature. How the tables turned....

I only now notice the use of Wasabiwąllet. I'm not sure why.

This forum was embarrassed by many users many times. I can not remember when was the new trust system introduced but if that was after the introduction of the new trust system then those tags were awful.

Over the years Wasabi turned into scammers. It's time to boycott the whole franchise. We have done it in the past. Ledger wallets are no more welcome in the community.  

[decodx]

From everything I've seen so far, Kruw seems to be a cold and heartless bastard. How he behaved in this situation is probably the most disgusting thing I've seen on this forum so far. Similar to that jerk who controls the Bitcon SV account.  If the people at Wasabi Wallet actually act like this, I gotta say I wouldn't feel too sure about using their stuff.  No clue if this dude's honestly with them or just some random hype guy, but either way he basically made it look like they got some real problems in their heads.

[apogio]

I don't really know much about Wasabi. I don't use it anyway and I will never use it.

Even if I wasn't aware of all the other reasons to avoid Wasabi, I would never use it because of Kruw's behaviour and attitude. This post literally summarizes his personality:

Good riddance o_e_l_e_o.  No one else I've interacted with on this forum has done more damage to the future of Bitcoin and future of freedom than you.  Even after your involvement with the Chipmixer scam, you knowlingy spread continuous lies about privacy weaknesses in Bitcoin that do not exist. Your scheme of tricking people into giving up their data and stealing their coins will finally come to an end.

Why should I ever trust a product that this guy promotes? Even if someone consistently spread lies about me, I would never wish him death. Death is permanent and unfortunately it is beyond our ability to control. I don't wish it to anyone. ANYONE! But this guy, literally said that it is best for the community that a member of the forum dies... No further comment...

[WhyFhy]

Isn't W**abi or any other service which offers a "mixing" service illegal on this forum since the beginning of this month? If promoting mixers is illegal now, promoting W**abi should be a ban offense too. The mods should delete every thread that is about W**abi. (probably this one too)

Mixers (centralized mixing services) are banned but those that provide decentralized mixing service (on noncustodial wallet) like Whirlpool of Sparrow and Samourai, Coinjoin of Jointmarket and Wabisabi of Wasabi are not banned.

Theymos banned only mixers, and Wasabi is not a mixer, it is a CoinJoin implementation.

Theymos may not categorize them as mixers, but literally they are mixers. In short, they are referred to as decentralized mixers.

It's all pretty gray an undefined at this point from what I can tell.
Crazy you cant advertise mixers, but you can advertise a mixer deployment service such as jambler.
Obviously smoke and mirrors and empty meaning.

The only good that's came from this situation is SV finally got banned.

[ineedhelpplease]

It’s a shame. Regardless of what the Wasabi team did i’m sure none of them will steep this low to make fun of people for dying, except this one loser of course. Kruw deserves to be perm banned. Why is he even allowed on the forums?

[Bitcoin_Arena]

The only good that's came from this situation is SV finally got banned.

Do you guys think they banned him as well (Temp ban)?

I have noticed he hasn't uttered anything ever since the debacle. Perhaps someone more sensible PMed him and told him to shut the hell up?
How stupid can someone be to ruin a product they claim they are fighting for in snap just like that.

[BabyBandit]

Do you guys think they banned him as well (Temp ban)

Maybe karma find him and gave him a lesson. 

[Vod]

It’s a shame. Regardless of what the Wasabi team did i’m sure none of them will steep this low to make fun of people for dying, except this one loser of course. Kruw deserves to be perm banned. Why is he even allowed on the forums?

There are other losers, but they are protected.

However, I still can't let him say whatever he wants just because I'm concerned about the amount of additional lies and baseless accusations he's going to make about me, that I then have to point out/prove false/etc... it's all a fucking waste of energy... but that's what his attacks and smears are designed to do.. Wear you down. I do hope most people can see through his crap.

My attacks?  LOL.  Look at the name of this thread.  People aren't stupid...  Your little group of friends has been dropping like flies after stressing themselves literally to death trying to destroy my honest reputation with lies.  How many more users have to disappear from this forum before you guys stop giving yourselves strokes and overdoses trying to further your petty internet drama?  What are you trying to achieve?  Maybe I can help.

And then this one:

before you give yourself a stroke like Vod

That's low.

I think it's good advice.  How many trolls have to stroke out before we start being honest here?

:/

[BlackHatCoiner]

It's just sad how quickly this company sold their principles. I remember using Wasabi in 2020, before 2.0 was released, in their lightweight client. I was honestly impressed by how easy and cheap it was to do coinjoin. I must have suggested it a couple of times in this forum.

But everything began going downwards after the blacklisting update. I remember the people's comments on their twitter. Seemed as if they lost a lot of clients. Then, n0nce sent them a letter, and at this point, I knew we had to do with clowns. The rest is history.

[LoyceMobile]

Kruw was just the icing to the cake.

That's not how this expression works....

[BlackHatCoiner]

That's not how this expression works....

I swear I've heard it in a negative tone before.

[Vod]

Q: What is the opposite of icing on the cake?
A: "Adding insult to injury"
Source: https://www.google.com/search?q=icing+to+the+cake+meaning

Edit:  Another:
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7395844-that-s-like-piss-icing-on-the-shit-cake

[mrust_mobile]

That's not how this expression works....

I swear I've heard it in a negative tone before.

Try:

“It was the cherry on the shit kebab.”

[nutildah]

that-s-like-piss-icing-on-the-shit-cake

Jim Lahey approves