Wasabi, Kruw, users and supporters of their low morals

[arabspaceship123]

What's icing to the cake. I've heard ppl say icing on the cake & tip of the iceberg.

Kruw was just the icing to the cake.

That's not how this expression works....

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[apogio]

What's icing to the cake. I've heard ppl say icing on the cake & tip of the iceberg.

It is supposed to mean "something that makes some situation even better than it already is". I believe BlackHatCoiner used it in a negative sense, and therefore the conversation you have seen above. But anyway, it's crystal clear what he wanted to say.

[Rruchi man]

What's icing to the cake. I've heard ppl say icing on the cake & tip of the iceberg.

Icing to the cake - after much discussion has been made, the Icing on the cake is what crowns the whole discussion, it can also mean the highlight of the discuusion or conversation.

Tip of the Iceberg - An example of something, a small portion from something huge.

[BlackHatCoiner]

Icing to the cake - after much discussion has been made, the Icing on the cake is what crowns the whole discussion, it can also mean the highlight of the discuusion or conversation

What I intended to convey is that there was no necessity for Kruw's disgusting behavior on the forum to prompt us to question the principles of Wasabi developers. They have been showcasing their negative aspects for quite some time now. Wasabi started as a project to make Bitcoin fungible, and now they support the notion that some coins are tainted. They display their cooperation with surveillance firms as a necessity, at the same time they do acknowledge blockchain analysis is inaccurate.

And countless of other examples which reveal that they are either incompetent with the subject or actively malicious-- which in either case means they can't be trusted with our privacy.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Come on LoyceV!
What a show you started LOL
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482307.msg63533803#msg63533803

I don't want to delete the post and the follow up posts from others. But the following posts were not necessary, in fact it's moving out from the main discussion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482307.msg63534269#msg63534269
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482307.msg63534312#msg63534312
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482307.msg63537408#msg63537408
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482307.msg63537438#msg63537438
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482307.msg63538175#msg63538175
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482307.msg63539776#msg63539776
Let's stay on topic. Some of you are better than me to keep things on topic.

What I intended to convey is that there was no necessity for Kruw's disgusting behavior on the forum to prompt us to question the principles of Wasabi developers. They have been showcasing their negative aspects for quite some time now. Wasabi started as a project to make Bitcoin fungible, and now they support the notion that some coins are tainted. They display their cooperation with surveillance firms as a necessity, at the same time they do acknowledge blockchain analysis is inaccurate.

And countless of other examples which reveal that they are either incompetent with the subject or actively malicious-- which in either case means they can't be trusted with our privacy.

Kruw is not anymore posting. Is he already banned?

Some people are now trying to create an argument that Kruw has nothing to do with Wasabi. I wonder when Bitcoin SV will become the same? We will see a group will try to convince others that Bitcoin SV is not the Bitcoin SV.

Question is not Kruw. Question is all these misconduct from Wasabi and its franchise. Clearly Wasabi team is a group of hypocrites, scamming their community.

[apogio]

Kruw is not anymore posting. Is he already banned?

Some people are now trying to create an argument that Kruw has nothing to do with Wasabi. I wonder when Bitcoin SV will become the same? We will see a group will try to convince others that Bitcoin SV is not the Bitcoin SV.

Question is not Kruw. Question is all these misconduct from Wasabi and its franchise. Clearly Wasabi team is a group of hypocrites, scamming their community.

I don't know about Kruw, but Bitcoin SV must be banned. He used awful language against o_e_l_e_o and many people (including me) reported him. As a result most of the posts have been removed by the mods.

Kruw is in the contributors' list of wasabi: https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WalletWasabi/graphs/contributors. In his profile, you can see he has forked both WasabiWallet and WasabiDoc. He even reviews pull requests if you check the PR history. And of course he replies to issues. So there is no doubt he is involved in Wasabi Wallet.

[LoyceV]

Kruw is in the contributors' list of wasabi: https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WalletWasabi/graphs/contributors. In his profile, you can see he has forked both WasabiWallet and WasabiDoc. He even reviews pull requests if you check the PR history. And of course he replies to issues. So there is no doubt he is involved in Wasabi Wallet.

Playing devil's advocate here: Isn't the way Github works that anyone can add "commits"? If they're accepted, that doesn't mean the guy works for the project, nor does it mean the project shares his views. It just means he made 7 out of >30,000 "commits".

[DaveF]

Kruw is in the contributors' list of wasabi: https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WalletWasabi/graphs/contributors. In his profile, you can see he has forked both WasabiWallet and WasabiDoc. He even reviews pull requests if you check the PR history. And of course he replies to issues. So there is no doubt he is involved in Wasabi Wallet.

Playing devil's advocate here: Isn't the way Github works that anyone can add "commits"? If they're accepted, that doesn't mean the guy works for the project, nor does it mean the project shares his views. It just means he made 7 out of >30,000 "commits".

By his own words he is an contributor:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286821.msg62080676#msg62080676

In the end does is matter? At this point it's not like he is going to change his actions and I really don't think anybody here is going to change their opinion of him or Wasabi.

I could probably go on for a while about it all, but it's just screaming into the void about the way people act.

-Dave

[apogio]

Kruw is in the contributors' list of wasabi: https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WalletWasabi/graphs/contributors. In his profile, you can see he has forked both WasabiWallet and WasabiDoc. He even reviews pull requests if you check the PR history. And of course he replies to issues. So there is no doubt he is involved in Wasabi Wallet.

Playing devil's advocate here: Isn't the way Github works that anyone can add "commits"? If they're accepted, that doesn't mean the guy works for the project, nor does it mean the project shares his views. It just means he made 7 out of >30,000 "commits".

Absolutely, but I don't mean he is getting paid by Wasabi Being involved in open source means just contributing. However someone in wasabi wallet repo requested Kruw to review their pr. I am just displaying the facts. I don't mean anything. He is contributing and that's for sure. I don't mean anything more than that!

[kayirigi]

Scammer Kruwed has negative trust page now.

Wasabi is a government honeypot and scam. So much proof.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5480440.msg63442503#msg63442503

Should users with Wasabi advert not also have negative trust page now?

[decodx]

Should users with Wasabi advert not also have negative trust page now?

I do not think so. Even if everything stated in the thread is true, I still don't see an obvious case of a scam. Not that I would personally recommend using Wasabi wallet to anyone, but users are free to promote whatever they want, as long as it is not a proven scam.

[kayirigi]

Should users with Wasabi advert not also have negative trust page now?

I do not think so. Even if everything stated in the thread is true, I still don't see an obvious case of a scam. Not that I would personally recommend using Wasabi wallet to anyone, but users are free to promote whatever they want, as long as it is not a proven scam.

It is proven. Proof is all here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5480440.msg63442503#msg63442503

Wasabi is a scam. Doing Wasabi adverts is doing adverts for a scam. They are scamming people.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

users are free to promote whatever they want, as long as it is not a proven scam.

If you mean stealing hard cash only makes a company scam then you seems correct. Ledger compromised their users information. Coinbase did the same a few years back. Information costs billions, it's valuable than cash. When you claim something, market it to gain the trust of your users but practice the opposite then it's a scam. The forms of scam by Wasabi are many. I listed a few at the starting.

Users are free to promote even a scam that stole hard cash, users are still promotion 1xbit. When a member sales his moral over cash then it's absolutely fine. You will find a few people who are exception. The members who are advertising Wasabi is giving Wasabi a platform to deceive more crypto users.

If the forum divides into two parts in a debate about Wasabi then you will see the paid people of Wasabi are in their favour. In this topic, how many of them are participating? More than one page, I didn't see a signature from Wasabi when I scrolled.

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If the forum divides into two parts in a debate about Wasabi then you will see the paid people of Wasabi are in their favour. In this topic, how many of them are participating? More than one page, I didn't see a signature from Wasabi when I scrolled.

You oversimplified the analysis and drew conclusions based on unsaid things. If you're talking about signatures, I saw some serious members on that list who would definitely have something to say and it wouldn't be nonsense.
I speak on my behalf (and I wouldn't be surprised if the rest members of the campaign think the same), I don't want to participate in this drama dominated by a couple of trolls (in several places on the forum) where it is impossible to leave any comment or opinion without one of them getting stick with their aggressive outbursts.

note: now you have Wasabi's signature in your thread 

[DooMAD]

That's not how this expression works....

I swear I've heard it in a negative tone before.

Were you possibly thinking of "takes the cake"?  That one is often used to portray a prime example of something bad.

I've not been paying much attention to the Reputation boards lately, as most of it is just petty bickering.  But I'm now massively regretting that decision, as I only became aware yesterday that o_e_l_e_o has already tragically left the forum.  A gut-punch I'm still reeling from.  I hope I didn't miss my chance to say goodbye.  Fingers crossed they might still be checking PMs.

Incidentally, I also missed your announcement of planned absence for the same reason.  But I'm grateful yours didn't last too long.  I need to start keeping a closer eye on this board, though.