Do You Believe, "Passive Investors Make More Than Active Investors?"

[Jawhead999]

Yes if he's not a trader, no if he's a trader, how can someone claimed if he's a trader when he not making money by trading?

If you want to discuss about Bitcoin, you need to take off Warren Buffet's opinions because he will always criticize Bitcoin regardless any improvement and acceptance towards Bitcoin.

[Faisal2202]

However, I've read what Warren Buffet (an American businessman and philanthropist, widely considered the most successful investor of the 20th century) thinks about short-term investing, which is quite negative.
By the way, he also thinks BTC has no intrinsic value and cryptocurrency is just gambling.

I don't know Warren Buffet very well, nor know him personally, and even not a big fan of what he says, so why would I care about his statements, In crypto you have to trust yourself and your guts, and never take other's statements as for sure, he really says BTC is a gambling token that's would be due to many of the reasons, and one is Buffet's have his own question paper to solve with some helps. Meaning, that he has his own life with the opportunities and sources that many don't have.

So, people who don't have the facilities, and pleasures of what Warren Buffet has, they should not care about him, they should only make there own minds, and if your mind or heart is telling you that BTC has some potential then you should go for it. If I have to say something on this then I will say we can't become rich in short-term investing, even if I don't consider it an investment in the first place.

Because investment and trading are two aspects of using money to make a profit, one in which you are looking for day-to-day profits is known as trading, and one that makes you profit or loss year to year known as Investment. So, before investing or making your mind that you can make hell lot of money in one day or in one week, then I have to say, Buffet is right in this context as you will be gambling, but if you are taking precautions, and moving with analysis and knowledge then it is not gambling.

[kentrolla]

Passive investors make more because they leave it for long term and in last decade Bitcoin has been in favour of long term while the active investors/traders they look for quick profit and end up with lesser profit as they cash out when the market seems to be crashing but long term/passive investors don't bother and image a day trader's profit since 2018 till now we will see long term investors will be in better situation with more profit. But this doesn't mean active traders don't ear they do earn and sometimes even more than long term or passive investors but they put all their investments into trading and don't know to preserve the profits.

[el kaka22]

I can't really say if this is true or not since I do not have a data that backs this up, and whatever anyone can provide, I am not sure if they have ALL the data. But, to be fair I wouldn't be surprised if this was true, passive investors just waits, and eventually crypto goes up, so we make money, whereas traders could make more than us, but could also make less than us.

In a situation, where I buy at 20k and sell at 60k, I made 40k dollars, but that's about it, even if I hold and it gets back to 60k, I still have only 40k profit. Whereas, trader is not the same, they can buy at 20k and sell at 60k and then buy 3 at 20k this time and sell at 60k again and have 180k instead, so they did 9x profit while I made 3x, and yet they may also buy at 60k and sell at 20k and lose two thirds of their money too. It is all possible.

[dunfida]

I've been watching many YouTube videos on how to make lots of money through day trading.
Those videos are quite impressive and compelling.

However, I've read what Warren Buffet (an American businessman and philanthropist, widely considered the most successful investor of the 20th century) thinks about short-term investing, which is quite negative.
By the way, he also thinks BTC has no intrinsic value and cryptocurrency is just gambling.

https://www.investors.com/news/warren-buffett-bashes-bitcoin-as-gambling-token-bitcoin-price-hovers-near-30000/#:~:text=%22Something%20like%20bitcoin%2C%20it%20is,intrinsic%20value%2C%22%20Buffett%20said.

When we do speak about those those typical billionaires who do become that rich because of those traditional investment and other traditional markets too then it wouldnt really be shocking that they would really be always loving on targeting and discriminating or making those negative insights towards Bitcoin but we do know that some of those bearish or critics are really that secretly buying Bitcoin behind those curtains and behind with those negative words on which do know that this is something that we must really be that wise and really that wary on how these big players do really tend to manipulate or decieving people or the community
just for them to have those kind of advantages.

Speaking about passive or active or short term invest, it doesnt really matter much because if you are someone whose really that making money
on whatever method or things you are involving with, then better stick to it rather than on forcing yourself on doing things which you arent even sure on how to do it.
So better stick on your own method and ways.

[South Park]

I've been watching many YouTube videos on how to make lots of money through day trading.
Those videos are quite impressive and compelling.

However, I've read what Warren Buffet (an American businessman and philanthropist, widely considered the most successful investor of the 20th century) thinks about short-term investing, which is quite negative.
By the way, he also thinks BTC has no intrinsic value and cryptocurrency is just gambling.

Traders can in theory make more money than investors, because if their strategy is effective then they can outperform the market and obtain more profits this way, something that is not possible for investors which can only take what the market gives them, however as you may imagine very few traders can achieve this, and even if there are many profitable traders they cannot beat the markets, so with all things considered your average investor should do better than your average trader.

[boyptc]

Traders can in theory make more money than investors, because if their strategy is effective then they can outperform the market and obtain more profits this way, something that is not possible for investors which can only take what the market gives them, however as you may imagine very few traders can achieve this, and even if there are many profitable traders they cannot beat the markets, so with all things considered your average investor should do better than your average trader.

That's possible but they're always like in a battle and they need to be active and make within their timeframes. Whilst the passive investors, there's effortless and yet profit is coming in to them.

Definitely we'd choose to be passive investors and let our money work for us, that's how it goes but going on that point will also take a lot of effort, money and sacrifices.

So I think, it's like becoming an active investor first and then going to being passive.

[husencoe]

I've been watching many YouTube videos on how to make lots of money through day trading.
Those videos are quite impressive and compelling.

By just watching YouTube videos, trading is an easy activity and can make a lot of money.  But in reality, trading is a very dangerous activity for beginners.  Trading requires people who are truly mentally prepared to act.  Trading is not so easy like in video, it really requires a high commitment to learning and trying.  but it not have possibility to trying it.  you may be now are a beginner, and all traders are beginners at some times.  time and jurney are make the people what they are today and someday in the future. May be you can create a demo account for learning and practicing what you see on youtube.

[Miles2006]

In my opinion passive investors make more profit but it doesn't come so easy especially when dealing with crypto, the choice of the investor matters a lot and with the right choice knowing when to buy and knowning the coin will definitely bring profit, the reason why I said it depends if the investor will make profit or not cause they're a lot of passive investors who still don't know the right strategy find it hard to make profit.
I believe active investors are always smart in nature cause it's difficult to get involved in buying and selling of crypto that's highly volatility in nature, just know the kind of coin you're dealing with.

[bolshojkush]

Are there any active traders among the people reading this topic? It is very interesting whether it is possible to really make money on this, or if there is a negative experience. They write a lot of things here, but no one shares their trading experience.

[cryptoaddictchie]

Probably. Some works with other people who just keep buying and holding and visiting their portfolio afterwards and cant believe on what they earned is totally huge and big profits. Day trader is hard as you need to monitor your potential profit or worse loss. Its not comparable since some orefer trading than investing. Maybe medium term users can make their comparison I mean also uses day trading plus also have bags.

[Mpamaegbu]

I've been watching many YouTube videos on how to make lots of money through day trading.
Those videos are quite impressive and compelling.

Don't be taken in completely by what those YouTube traders say. Most of them are just good hype men, nothing more. If you've to follow any of them to monitor what they do, follow those who teach their strategies and not those who display supposed piles of cash they say they make. A good number of those YouTubers trade on demo and that's the result they display to unsuspecting public. They open two trading positions and pick the one that's favourable to deceive noob traders.

As for passive investments being more profitable than active investments? I don't think so. It's like leaving your money in a fixed deposit in a bank vs withdrawing that cash and using it for your day to day business transactions. Of course, the one in a bank won't yield much. And if you think it's safe leaving it in the bank, you kid yourself. Anything can happen there too. Bank can go bankrupt.

[jossiel]

Are there any active traders among the people reading this topic?

There are.

It is very interesting whether it is possible to really make money on this, or if there is a negative experience.

Most of the experience you'll hear will always be tandemed with negative experience like the stories of failures and losses.

They write a lot of things here, but no one shares their trading experience.

You can navigate to this section and you will see a lot of trading discussions and from there, you'll see almost everyone sharing their trading expeirence. So, all you have to do is to look to the other threads.

[jrrsparkles]

Warren Buffet always took his stance against bitcoin because as per his understanding Bitcoin has no intrinsic value.

But let's talk about the context, in theory, a day trader can make any amount as profit, let's say one can double his capital in just one or two trades but how long it is possible to maintain the streak not more than once more often that means day trading is highly profitable but at the same time you can lose the capital in no time too that makes day trading to be less profitable in the net value in long term.

While HODLers, simply buy bitcoin and do nothing but still in a cycle we can at least expect 2x profits.

[ScamViruS]

My opinion is that both investors can do well in their own positions, if they have enough knowledge of what they are actually doing. Many people make big profits from day trading. If you are influenced by their videos and jump into day trading without any trading experience, then you will not be able to survive in this market.

Passive investment can give an investor a huge return that even that investor does not expect, but investing in the right place at the right time also becomes important and this also requires considerable knowledge. And those who have invested in Bitcoin for the long term have seen huge returns that few retail investors have been able to sustain for so long. But passive investors know very well how the market works, and because they have enough money, they wait patiently for their desired target to be achieved. And day traders take trades from one to another throughout the day so that they are under a lot of stress. So in my opinion, if you can be an expert, you can get good results everywhere.

[Stepstowealth]

I've been watching many YouTube videos on how to make lots of money through day trading.
Those videos are quite impressive and compelling

The aim of some of the creators of those videos is for them to make money from your views and not to really pass knowledge or share their secrets, and also some of their methods are either not applicable somehow, or more theoretical than practical.

However, I've read what Warren Buffet (an American businessman and philanthropist, widely considered the most successful investor of the 20th century) thinks about short-term investing, which is quite negative.
By the way, he also thinks BTC has no intrinsic value and cryptocurrency is just gambling.

what do you think, do you think he will always be right because he is a billionaire with a big name? that he can never be wrong about bitcoins?. If you think he cannot be wrong, I am sorry to say but you are not far from being a potato that cannot have thoughts on their own.

[tvplus006]

There should be no doubt that passive investors earn more profit than those who actively trade. In any case, they did not lose their money, like most who, without the necessary knowledge and experience, tried to trade, but simply lost their money as a result. So, getting a profit from day trading fate is not for many.

[johnsaributua]

Warren buffet is accustomed to business and investment with unusual capital, and now he judges bitcoin to have no instrinsic value or thinks it is just a hoax or other dirty words. But if he wants to try bitcoin more often he should know that bitcoin can provide opportunities for both new investors. How not, bitcoin can even with 5-10$ can trade daily and can also start investment trading as easily as in the hand in hodl.

Many still think that when the rich question, how can a person from a weak economic background become an investor with enough money to support his or her life outside of large savings. And it's not just warren, it's their right even though they have a view because they don't feel the convenience in bitcoin. I don't care about these people, they are busy branding themselves. Whereas bitcoin is qualified finance and everyone can invest whenever and however much they want, even with the few sats they get over time it can become savings.

[poodle63]

Are there any active traders among the people reading this topic? It is very interesting whether it is possible to really make money on this, or if there is a negative experience. They write a lot of things here, but no one shares their trading experience.

im quite active in trading i think i have made plenty this few days alone and I think this statement kinda holds truth, i've missed several opportunities of getting that massive 3-4x gain just because i traded actively i remember i traded sui and sei at really low price and right now it has made 2-3 of its prices back then when we are still early in bullrun though i've made good profit out of it but certainly if i were passive investors i would have gained much more profit in the long run, indeed the saying holder always win at the end are sometime just true despite might sound ridiculous i mean to be real holder in the first place we need to be faithful and small amount of distrust toward the coin already cause us panic selling.
i think its best to be both passive and active investors to be honest, to not miss out any opportunity.

[Kelvinid]

I've been watching many YouTube videos on how to make lots of money through day trading.
Those videos are quite impressive and compelling.

They are quite impressive and compelling indeed but not all of them are real, many are manipulated to attract people to trade.
Have these people become rich already because of trading?

However, I've read what Warren Buffet (an American businessman and philanthropist, widely considered the most successful investor of the 20th century) thinks about short-term investing, which is quite negative.
By the way, he also thinks BTC has no intrinsic value and cryptocurrency is just gambling.

They can be both profitable passive and active investors because they have their strategies as well. But for some instances, passive investment gives more yet, it will take a longer time to wait before we can harvest rewards like Real Estate where it takes years to develop.

Well, we could also consider the passion of the investor and the way they manage their investments. They can be long-term or short-term but what matters the most is choosing the right investment even in the crypto space - Bitcoin or altcoins.