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February 12, 2024, 02:45:16 PM
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In long term investment, we are investing in a coin with proper research about their team and investors. Long term investment gives good profit but it takes time.
In short term investment coin, we are doing day trading for making profit. It is also a good technique for making money. But in this way, we take small profits. But we takes multiple takes to earn good profit.

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February 12, 2024, 05:10:29 PM
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Do You Believe, "Passive Investors Make More Than Active Investors?"
Yes of course, the CEO of Binance who is currently in court said, you won't be rich if you are not a hodler. yes, that's what I believed until now, and I experienced that. Apart from that, if you are a passive investor, you won't open your cellphone every minute to see price movements of the coin asset you are investing in, lol. Apart from that, especially for me, long term investment saves my mind from the very high crypto volatility, being a long term investment makes us not really care about the volatility.

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However, I've read what Warren Buffet (an American businessman and philanthropist, widely considered the most successful investor of the 20th century) thinks about short-term investing, which is quite negative.
By the way, he also thinks BTC has no intrinsic value and cryptocurrency is just gambling.
leave it alone, baby boomers are like that, they criticize, but secretly buy too lol. Grin
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February 12, 2024, 05:31:22 PM
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Passive Investors do make more money. But they don’t more money from investment. As this is just the side investment, hence they make more money from other sources I would say. It’s good to invest passively. Do a primary job to fulfil the daily demands and pay the bills and passively invest some money on cryptos. A professional trader on the other hand has huge responsibilities. He has to take more risk and stress while trading. Hence for this reason, passive traders make more money.

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February 12, 2024, 08:40:21 PM
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I've been watching many YouTube videos on how to make lots of money through day trading.
Those videos are quite impressive and compelling.

However, I've read what Warren Buffet (an American businessman and philanthropist, widely considered the most successful investor of the 20th century) thinks about short-term investing, which is quite negative.
By the way, he also thinks BTC has no intrinsic value and cryptocurrency is just gambling.


I am a bit cautious when it comes to YouTube videos about profitable day traders. It always feels a bit like the guys are looking more for earning through their videos and advertising than through actual trading. Warren Buffet is one of the old school value investors that believes in longterm growth and will only buy into companies where he gets a decent return on his money. Dividends are a big part of it and he wouldn't engage in any trading. Also Warren Buffet is a completely different position than the average trader. His company is massive and when invested in a company it's going to very big positions that he acquires. It's not going to be one trade that will fill his order and there are also many people that follow his investments and would immediately buy the same position. The same problems he has when getting out of trade, all the other investors would probably want to get out as well. So, day trading is not suitable for Warren Buffet, which doesn't mean it's not working. There are enough traders that make money with it, also long as you don't over trade and accumulate a lot of transaction costs.
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February 25, 2024, 09:55:15 AM
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Do a primary job to fulfil the daily demands and pay the bills and passively invest some money on cryptos.
The safety net, indeed I encourage members to consolidate the safety of their own job first before investing or trading. With a job successfully at hand their mental state is stable and they can  budget their spending including their investments. Without the job a lot of this is not possible.

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A professional trader on the other hand has huge responsibilities. He has to take more risk and stress while trading. Hence for this reason, passive traders make more money.
Day trading mostly has the max stress and risk associated, which can be avoided by limiting yourself to long term trading only. Bitcoin is built for long term trading in my opinion and altcoins are for day trading except a few of the top 10.

So its not whether one makes better than another, it is also the state they can be healthy and consistent in.

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February 25, 2024, 10:42:35 AM
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If you ask me that question then I will also say that yes passive investor make more profit then active investor . Passive invested means long term investor or we can say long term holder. Now if we look back to 10 years back then those trader who are holding Bitcoin for 10 years now their current holding fund is like a booms so this is a is example for that passive investor make more from active investor. That doesn't mean that active in the store have lower income but active investor has to do a lot with analysis etc .


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February 25, 2024, 11:49:51 AM
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If you ask me that question then I will also say that yes passive investor make more profit then active investor . Passive invested means long term investor or we can say long term holder. Now if we look back to 10 years back then those trader who are holding Bitcoin for 10 years now their current holding fund is like a booms so this is a is example for that passive investor make more from active investor. That doesn't mean that active in the store have lower income but active investor has to do a lot with analysis etc .

The income between passive investors and active investors is clearly very different because they basically hold for very different durations to get the profits they want. But I think both can also be very good because they can both get profits even though the amounts are different, because the worst are people who are not at all active in terms of investing and trading in any way but still have dreams of making a profit.

Meanwhile, for passive investors, they usually set long-term targets by not touching the amount of investment they already have except just continuing to increase the amount of investment gradually. And for active investors, they have to be more accustomed to doing many things to balance their time with the profits they seek all the time.

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February 27, 2024, 01:55:37 AM
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The income between passive investors and active investors is clearly very different because they basically hold for very different durations to get the profits they want. But I think both can also be very good because they can both get profits even though the amounts are different, because the worst are people who are not at all active in terms of investing and trading in any way but still have dreams of making a profit.

Meanwhile, for passive investors, they usually set long-term targets by not touching the amount of investment they already have except just continuing to increase the amount of investment gradually. And for active investors, they have to be more accustomed to doing many things to balance their time with the profits they seek all the time.
I agree with the opinion you say, of course they hold for different time periods so they will also be different in obtaining profits for them and for those who have never been active in trading and investing but they have a dream of being able to make a profit of course they must be able to learn about investment and trading so that they can try investing or trading to realize the profits they dream of.

Those who set long-term targets certainly have a good understanding of the type of assets they hold and they are also very confident about the profits they will get and this is very easy for anyone to do.
However, for those who are active, of course they have to see the development of the assets they hold every day and will take advantage if the assets they have obtained have made a profit.

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March 04, 2024, 02:54:00 PM
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However, for those who are active, of course they have to see the development of the assets they hold every day and will take advantage if the assets they have obtained have made a profit.
The word active does not necessarily mean watching every development. In bitcoin new things come once every few years or so. The term is more applicable in the lines of day trading and thus with altcoins>bitcoin.

I never advocate people to do day trading. I feel it ruins your physical and mental health as well as your family commitments. If you have a job, dont even think about it.

On the other hand, passive would mean long term holding, which specifically in the case of bitcoin has shown wonderful results over the years.

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March 04, 2024, 06:26:41 PM
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However, for those who are active, of course they have to see the development of the assets they hold every day and will take advantage if the assets they have obtained have made a profit.
The word active does not necessarily mean watching every development. In bitcoin new things come once every few years or so. The term is more applicable in the lines of day trading and thus with altcoins>bitcoin.

I never advocate people to do day trading. I feel it ruins your physical and mental health as well as your family commitments. If you have a job, dont even think about it.

On the other hand, passive would mean long term holding, which specifically in the case of bitcoin has shown wonderful results over the years.
That is quite true, but if you are single then I do not agree with that statement. If you are single, you could trade anytime you have free time. Think about it, lets say you get out of work at 5 pm, at home at 6pm, and you relax and eat and watch something until 8 pm, you still have like 3-4 hours, either you can watch something or play games or read something basically do whatever you want, OR you could just end up with a trading habit as well.

I would say that trading is much more profitable, or at least has the potential to be. This is why we should be careful about it, and I am guessing that we are not going to get anything major out of it neither. We should consider the possibility that people can't really realize how wonderful it can be.

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March 04, 2024, 06:37:41 PM
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If you ask me that question then I will also say that yes passive investor make more profit then active investor . Passive invested means long term investor or we can say long term holder. Now if we look back to 10 years back then those trader who are holding Bitcoin for 10 years now their current holding fund is like a booms so this is a is example for that passive investor make more from active investor. That doesn't mean that active in the store have lower income but active investor has to do a lot with analysis etc .
I'd also say that passive investors make more money. Because in my experience of being a passive investor, I've made more money than with my trades. It's a real thing that you make more money through passive investing as long as you've been accumulating and adding more to your portfolio. And to become a passive investor, it doesn't mean that you have to be passive at all, you can also be actively adding more and recurring more of your stash like if you're holding Bitcoin.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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March 04, 2024, 07:51:12 PM
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However, for those who are active, of course they have to see the development of the assets they hold every day and will take advantage if the assets they have obtained have made a profit.
The word active does not necessarily mean watching every development. In bitcoin new things come once every few years or so. The term is more applicable in the lines of day trading and thus with altcoins>bitcoin.

I never advocate people to do day trading. I feel it ruins your physical and mental health as well as your family commitments. If you have a job, dont even think about it.

On the other hand, passive would mean long term holding, which specifically in the case of bitcoin has shown wonderful results over the years.
That is quite true, but if you are single then I do not agree with that statement. If you are single, you could trade anytime you have free time. Think about it, lets say you get out of work at 5 pm, at home at 6pm, and you relax and eat and watch something until 8 pm, you still have like 3-4 hours, either you can watch something or play games or read something basically do whatever you want, OR you could just end up with a trading habit as well.

I would say that trading is much more profitable, or at least has the potential to be. This is why we should be careful about it, and I am guessing that we are not going to get anything major out of it neither. We should consider the possibility that people can't really realize how wonderful it can be.
If you are single or doesnt have a family to raise on then i would say that trading is really something that you could really be able to deal up with on which you could really make use of those extra time on something which could bring out that opportunity that you could make money which is way more than potentially on what you are earning now with your current job. The good thing when you are single is that you could really be able to
deal up with things freely and since there's nothing that could bother you then you could have that kind of flexibility when it comes to your time. It is really just that on how you would really be able to make use of it.
Some wont really be that bothering because they arent seeing that future perspective or doesnt have that actual plan on how to deal up with things. They do rather just simply stick into the things
on what they do currently have and doesnt matter about those future endeaours or future building kind of mindset.

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If you are single, you could trade anytime you have free time. Think about it, lets say you get out of work at 5 pm, at home at 6pm, and you relax and eat and watch something until 8 pm, you still have like 3-4 hours, either you can watch something or play games or read something basically do whatever you want, OR you could just end up with a trading habit as well.
I dont quite agree with that type of lifestyle or habits. If you are having time at work you could do something productive and possibly pursue another hobby or a side hustle. Trading is not necessarily a hustle, it might for some and this might work out for them but not everybody.

Many times people are working in some sector but are studying for a higher degree or position and hence for them the rest of the day is pretty much focused on studying, more so if they are single.

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I would say that trading is much more profitable, or at least has the potential to be. This is why we should be careful about it, and I am guessing that we are not going to get anything major out of it neither. We should consider the possibility that people can't really realize how wonderful it can be.
Of course no major earning can be obtained through trading but often we can get small chunks and once a while a big chunk of money.

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