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January 23, 2024, 04:48:58 PM
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Good day or evening to all of you. 
Some days ago I was reading about casinos, specifically brick and mortar ones, and I learnt that in most of those establishments people only use dices made with transparent resins or materials, so gamblers can be sure those are not rigged to favour some number over others. That made me think about how many times I have played with dices which are not transparent, but white/black.

If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?

I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools.
What do you think?

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January 23, 2024, 05:55:35 PM
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OP, if the casino in your area is legitimate and regulated by a gaming control board, we could be very sure that the dice they use would be made of high-quality materials, with sharper edges than a regular dice - which are supposed to make rolls more random.

But if you notice that the casino is using dice that look like they're merely taken from a board game, then you should definitely avoid playing there. Or ask the dealer if he wants to play Snakes and Ladders. Haha.

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January 23, 2024, 06:16:38 PM
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The point is to identify whether the dice is real or fake because not many players can identify such.

And more so, some gamblers will play anyways since the appearing of the numbers is still by chance, they will feel that the probability of a particular number to appear against another is still the same or equal, so why giving up. But except the dice are obviously ultered, then it will be a source of concern.

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January 23, 2024, 06:21:05 PM
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If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?
It is for reasons as this that reputation regarding casino's operation can't be overemphasized, if you are using a casino that have earned a great reputation over the years you will be rest assured that they won't want to do any thing silly to rub their repute in the mud as there is regulatory policies that are bound to abide by. So be it transparent or black and white dice it won't matter provided you're playing with a well reputed casino.
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January 23, 2024, 06:26:22 PM
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I think it won’t make a difference if the dice is transparent or not if you can spot a bad dice when you try it. A professional gambler would see through it right away. They probably do this just not to spook the newbie players. Since these people have no idea what they are doing, they will feel safer when they play with a transparent dice. It makes sense for the casino too because they make their money mostly from the newbie gamblers. Pros are pros because they know how to win against the house and the casino owners hate them pros.

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January 23, 2024, 06:35:46 PM
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The point is to identify whether the dice is real or fake because not many players can identify such.

I am not dice player though but as a dice player s/he should be able to identify whether that dice is fake or not, and of cause anyone who is routed in a specific gambling exercise should be able to know what such dice is real or being faked. just as those who are into investment whenever a fake investment is being introduced here you would see some people will go dig into that site to know whether such site is likely to be scam.
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January 23, 2024, 06:54:44 PM
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Good day or evening to all of you. 
Some days ago I was reading about casinos, specifically brick and mortar ones, and I learnt that in most of those establishments people only use dices made with transparent resins or materials, so gamblers can be sure those are not rigged to favour some number over others. That made me think about how many times I have played with dices which are not transparent, but white/black.

If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?

I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools.
What do you think?

I think transparency does give you a certain amount of self assurance, but the truth is, scammers could create weighted and transparent dice all the same, if they wanted to. And it would be very hard to tell, because nobody takes dice measures before each game. All that we can really do is hope that we are not being tricked. Those casinos that trick their guests usually crash into the ground, hard sooner or later and end up paying a very heavy price.

Rigging dice by changing the dimensions, density, material and therefore the center of mass. Think of it as a piece of toast with jam smeared on top. If you drop it, it will always land on the jam side.

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January 23, 2024, 07:13:01 PM
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The point is to identify whether the dice is real or fake because not many players can identify such.

I am not dice player though but as a dice player s/he should be able to identify whether that dice is fake or not, and of cause anyone who is routed in a specific gambling exercise should be able to know what such dice is real or being faked. just as those who are into investment whenever a fake investment is being introduced here you would see some people will go dig into that site to know whether such site is likely to be scam.

In every sphere of life, there are those who are professionals and these categories of people don't need to sweat out for them to know what it is. In gambling, there are also newbies and at all times it is not only knowledgeable dice players play the game, their are newbies. As always, newbie players find it difficult to understand if they are cheated or not. If a dice for instance is not rolling  properly or producing certain consistent numbers, it may not be spotted out by a newbie player, that is the point. So identify fake or real dice is still the first challenge. However, there are some test to know if a dice is real from the shape, if it is producing consistently certain predetermined number, that can be a sign to look out for.

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January 23, 2024, 07:23:22 PM
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I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools.
What do you think?

With Biased Dice, they only can roll a few and need to constantly change the dice depending on which one is favoring them and it is just a matter of time to find how the die lands only on a particular side every time so no casino will attempt to do that.

But if you feel the die is rigged then just ask the dealer to roll multiple times and if you get random results then you can consider it is unbiased die.









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January 23, 2024, 07:31:22 PM
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If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?

If you're gambling, I will first advise that you do away with anything that has to do with you having doubts about what the casino offers from the kind of games you've chosen to play, first thing to consider is your right to choose which gambling platform to use, game selections to make anf the likes, once you detected anything you may not like it want from any, you're free to try others and same thing you will realized, this means they were not being manipulative.
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I'm not a dice player and have never played that kind of gambling, but at least I've talked to people who have played that kind of gambling. Indeed, he is also quite experienced in playing this type of gambling. And he said, if a casino doesn't have transparent dice, it's because they don't provide them. To avoid fraud that could make us lose money and feel cheated. If we decide to continue betting, I personally recommend being more careful, because transparency is a principle and key to fair and responsible gambling. And if you feel like there is uncertainty or have suspicions regarding the security of the gambling game, it would be better if you decided to look for a casino that can guarantee transparency and honesty to continue gambling activities with better confidence.

However, as long as you are able to bear all the risks you will face, including the possibility of cheating, then please continue betting.

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For sure it's a nice idea provide some "transparency" to their game plays, but I don't know if this is a real way to avoid scam.
I think that there are also other ways for cheating and casino are well aware of that.
Generally speaking odds are in their favor so they are pretty aware that they will always win.

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Good day or evening to all of you. 
Some days ago I was reading about casinos, specifically brick and mortar ones, and I learnt that in most of those establishments people only use dices made with transparent resins or materials, so gamblers can be sure those are not rigged to favour some number over others. That made me think about how many times I have played with dices which are not transparent, but white/black.

If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?

I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools.
What do you think?
This would really be actually be that depending into someone's preference or someone's interest whether they would really be making out such choice or making out such decisions on playing
because if you cant really just that simply trust up any business out there specially on dice or simply having those kind of standard when it comes to the games
which you are really that liking to get involved with. So it would really be just that depending on you.

When its rigged then there's nothing we can do about it but rather you would really be just simply having that kind of vibe that it is rigged but how you would be able to prove it?
Even if its legit on which gamblers would really be always having the edge when it comes to this manner.

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Good day or evening to all of you. 
Some days ago I was reading about casinos, specifically brick and mortar ones, and I learnt that in most of those establishments people only use dices made with transparent resins or materials, so gamblers can be sure those are not rigged to favour some number over others. That made me think about how many times I have played with dices which are not transparent, but white/black.

If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?

I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools.
What do you think?

It's basically irrelevant whether the dice is transparent or not, because it could still easily be weighted more on one side to land there more frequently. However I guess it is a good psychological reassurance to gamblers and casinos will take any small steps they can to keep people playing. The reality is that every card game a casino will offer is already geared mathematically to pay them at an advantage over the long term. It's habit forming behavior as well, who cares if a gambler wins 10 times in a row. They've already been going for such a long time they will likely return back, if they even leave, and sink all those winnings straight back into the casino. To anyone with a brain, gamblers could still not be sure it's not rigged even with a transparent dice.

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January 23, 2024, 09:03:15 PM
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Are you sure still safe?

You can search on youtube, right now we already have a dice with glass mostly transparent the different only on colour (White Glass Transparant, Red and Blue). Still can be cheated with remote/magnet

If you want to play a safest game, (BJ) are the answer. They only can rigged you with the odds while they take some of high card, unless you should make a fan of the card before you play to check each of the card.

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January 23, 2024, 09:50:05 PM
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It's basically irrelevant whether the dice is transparent or not, because it could still easily be weighted more on one side to land there more frequently. However I guess it is a good psychological reassurance to gamblers and casinos will take any small steps they can to keep people playing. The reality is that every card game a casino will offer is already geared mathematically to pay them at an advantage over the long term. It's habit forming behavior as well, who cares if a gambler wins 10 times in a row. They've already been going for such a long time they will likely return back, if they even leave, and sink all those winnings straight back into the casino. To anyone with a brain, gamblers could still not be sure it's not rigged even with a transparent dice.

you have a point on this. because even if it is transparent, they can still make some alterations inside without revealing what's really in it. so this one now relies on the fact if the casino is trustworthy or not. you just rely that they are doing the right thing for their players. because if there will arise some suspicions, this can easily spread like wildfire and can be subjected to investigations. so it is the reputation of the casino at stake here. so if they found out of screwing their players, their business is over.

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January 23, 2024, 10:45:20 PM
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Play another type of casino game or switch places if you are doubting the credibility of both the game and the casino itself.
I am not a professional when it comes to these things so I won't really care about the materials they are using for the gambling game which in this case is a dice. It will be difficult to tell if they are rigged or not and I don't think just because it's transparent, they cannot cheat. There are other possible ways to make it magnetic or the balance of a dice is off which turns for a favorite number all the time and they could also be switching dice if we see through their rigged game.
Anything can be done so that the house will win and their employees are the only ones who know about this. We cannot go against it or else we will be kicked out of the premises and the police won't even believe the shit we will tell them.
Heck, I'd rather pick another game than go through all these exhausting details.

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January 23, 2024, 10:58:21 PM
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Genereally I don't think it makes sense for a casino to rig their games.
Gamblers already accept to play with house edge no problem, so a casino would be very foolish to try and skim off extra profits even above that.
Casinos make money that are pretty much guaranteed if they have volume.

To be honest though, to me dice games are not very enjoyable, so I would avoid dice games in general. If I had to, sure I'd prefer to play with transparent dice. But I don't personally view it as a fool proof way to avoid cheating. In fact, I think bricks and mortar casinos "cheat" in other less obvious ways. For instance, not telling players what the house edge is or paying lower payouts on chance games that usually have a certain payout, this way kind of tricking players into playing games they know but with a higher house edge.

Dunno, but if you're gonna be paranoid about cheating you might not enjoy playing at a physical casino. Just stick with known provably fair games I guess.

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January 23, 2024, 11:33:18 PM
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If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?

What is the difference between transparent dice and white and black dice? I think this is just a matter of color difference and the material it is made from. In my opinion it has nothing to do with anything including fraud. It's just a matter of color difference, that's all.

So, if I visited a casino and they didn't have transparent dice then I would still gamble there. More important than dice is the reputation of the casino

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January 23, 2024, 11:42:18 PM
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If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?

I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools.
What do you think?

It's not only one person that visits the casino; there are usually various kinds of people who troop in and out of casinos every day, and if there is anything unusual or any phishing activity going on in that casino, it will definitely be discovered by some players because they are not foolish. Some people have years of experience with dice and can never be tricked.

I don't just visit any random casino in my region; I don't also go to new casinos unless I am sure they have a good reputation. Despite the fact that they don't have transparent dice, they are reputable casinos, and they will not pull such an act because if they do and it's discovered, they will lose their reputation, which they don't want to happen.

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