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January 24, 2024, 10:12:02 PM
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Honestly, I couldn't care less for whatever material they make the dices, as long as they are weighted before play and are not rigged, cause cheating takes the fun out of everything you heavily involve yourself into.

For me, it all lies in the overall trust rating of the casino you're playing with. I mean, a casino that's trusted by millions of players around their area and possibly the world's not gonna be so cheap as to cheat their players into a couple hundred bucks by giving them a loaded dice. After all, they already got the house edge to give them the upper hand against the players from the get-go. The only time you'd ever be worried about the legitimacy of the dice you're playing in my opinion is when you're playing with a shady casino. Those back alley ones that you'd find behind a dumpster with a burnt-out neon signage, and in that regard I'm gonna ask you the question of why the fuck are you trifling with casinos like that in the first place and then complaining about how rigged their systems are. That's like point a gun at your foot and then blaming the gun when you get a bullet stuck inside your foot.

Questions like these do not instill quality in my opinion, even though I get the intent to spark discussion. This is one of the reasons why gambling discussion's regarded by many vets in this forum as the dumpster fire board. We got people asking questions they already know the answers to for the sake of asking.

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January 24, 2024, 10:35:47 PM
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I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools.
What do you think?

As long as the casinos are regulated, expect them to be fair. These dice are being calibrated the same as what authorities do on physical machines to ensure fairness and if the casino is following the proper guidelines. I doubt these casinos will mess up on their player if they are regulated and licensed.

With lots of dice players around, it's impossible that no one will encounter if there's a cheat on the used dice. That's what the casino wants to avoid. Therefore, they will keep on being fair and won't ruin the trust of their customers. It's hard to earn trust nowadays, especially in the gambling industry.

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January 24, 2024, 10:44:20 PM
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It won't matter to me but if I feel that I am cheated, I'll just step away and forget about what happened and will never be back there. This is one of the reasons why I am mostly sticking to online than of these physical casinos. You'll never know if you've been cheated or not as there's no way to verify results through hashes compared to online. But if you find fun with that then that's not a problem as it's always fun to try new casinos but it won't be long until you've figured out if it's worth it to stay or not. And I agree to windfury, if that casino is regulated and registered, they're likely won't do something you'd be unhappy with like with the transparency of dices or whatever material is preferred.

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January 24, 2024, 10:57:49 PM
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Good day or evening to all of you. 
Some days ago I was reading about casinos, specifically brick and mortar ones, and I learnt that in most of those establishments people only use dices made with transparent resins or materials, so gamblers can be sure those are not rigged to favour some number over others. That made me think about how many times I have played with dices which are not transparent, but white/black.

If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?

I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools.
What do you think?
This seems more like an idea to calm down drunk angry gamblers who are losing with dice. As if they have decided that their bad luck is because of rigged dices, it's really hard to make them believe they are not.

Has there even been any recorded cases where casinos have used rigged dices? And why would they do that? Casinos have house edge on their side so that they don't have to. There are countless inspections about it too and getting caught would hurt them more then money they would get for that. And imagine how many people would need to use them and keep their mouths shut about that to have any effect. It's a nonsensical conspiracy. I am thinking more likely scenario would be that some group of gamblers used sleight of hand and tried to change the dice for their advantage. But changes would be that they would get caught and payed for their crime.

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January 24, 2024, 11:30:48 PM
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If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?

I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools.
What do you think?

You should have provided an article for us to check the veracity of that if it's true or not many of us do not know this, but if the casino is going to cheat they will find a way to do it even if they are using a transparent dice, but I did watch a movie I just forgot the title that they can control the dice and manipulate and spin it but if it's true that there's a probability of controlling the dice and it could happen if you're using a black and white dice then I will remember and ask if possible for transparent dice, it's a casino so I'm sure they have all kinds of dice, if there's no hidden agenda and all the players agreed to have a transparent dice then the operator will have to comply.

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January 24, 2024, 11:47:16 PM
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Good day or evening to all of you. 
Some days ago I was reading about casinos, specifically brick and mortar ones, and I learnt that in most of those establishments people only use dices made with transparent resins or materials, so gamblers can be sure those are not rigged to favour some number over others. That made me think about how many times I have played with dices which are not transparent, but white/black.

If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?

I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools.
What do you think?

Quite an interesting topic and I think most people take for granted that the dice are fair. But I am wondering whether you can say with 100% certainty whether a dice is manipulated in some way even if they are transparent. In theory, I guess they could be produced in a way that they are still rigged despite being transparent. If some specific material is used that is heavier in one position of the dice but yet it is transparent, I think it would be impossible to tell if a dice is 100% provably fair.

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January 25, 2024, 03:05:18 PM
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If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?

I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools.
What do you think?

I'm sure all physical casinos know this and that you have the option to request transparent dice, if they will not allow it, I don't think I will be comfortable playing in traditional black and white dice, knowing that there's the probability of manipulating the outcome.
If they are not hiding anything, they will comply because they have to be as transparent and compliant as possible.
So far I have seen dice games in our fiestas using transparent dice but you need good lighting as some transparent dice blur the dots on the dice.

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January 25, 2024, 03:26:32 PM
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If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?

I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools.
What do you think?

I'm sure all physical casinos know this and that you have the option to request transparent dice, if they will not allow it, I don't think I will be comfortable playing in traditional black and white dice, knowing that there's the probability of manipulating the outcome.
If they are not hiding anything, they will comply because they have to be as transparent and compliant as possible.
So far I have seen dice games in our fiestas using transparent dice but you need good lighting as some transparent dice blur the dots on the dice.

Actually I never saw transparent dice in any casino but rather just a translucent. This translucent dice is the standard dice of any casino that commonly use on craps table especially the red one. I doubt any casino use a different dice like black one or something that is not fit to the standard. Brick and mortar casino has a serial number on their dice.

I believe the edges of the dice can bring more concerned rather than it’s translucent properties because any foreign material can still be hide on the back of dots or be the dots itself while the rounded edge can give bias on a result since it can easily roll on that side.

Been playing craps for a long time and I never experienced playing using a non translucent dice in both IRL and online casino. Always those red translucent dice.

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January 25, 2024, 03:39:59 PM
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Good day or evening to all of you. 
Some days ago I was reading about casinos, specifically brick and mortar ones, and I learnt that in most of those establishments people only use dices made with transparent resins or materials, so gamblers can be sure those are not rigged to favour some number over others. That made me think about how many times I have played with dices which are not transparent, but white/black.

The black and white dices used to be the standard but now you can request transparent dices many are not aware of this and they just trust the operator on the kind of dice they'll be bringing they are more concentrated on the throw of the dices than the composition of the dices, I guess when we are so excited we are not that observant, we just want to go for it and bet, hope that luck will be on our side.

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If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?
I can request for a change of the dice I remember one guy doing this and his request was granted they have to show to players that are bringing them money that they are not hiding anything.

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I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools.
What do you think?
If you trust the casino operator whatever dice they are going to use that will be ok to you, but if you don't trust the operator even if he's using a transparent dice you will still have suspicion.

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January 25, 2024, 04:24:23 PM
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Good day or evening to all of you.  
Some days ago I was reading about casinos, specifically brick and mortar ones, and I learnt that in most of those establishments people only use dices made with transparent resins or materials, so gamblers can be sure those are not rigged to favour some number over others. That made me think about how many times I have played with dices which are not transparent, but white/black.

If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?

I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools.
What do you think?

Quite an interesting topic and I think most people take for granted that the dice are fair. But I am wondering whether you can say with 100% certainty whether a dice is manipulated in some way even if they are transparent. In theory, I guess they could be produced in a way that they are still rigged despite being transparent. If some specific material is used that is heavier in one position of the dice but yet it is transparent, I think it would be impossible to tell if a dice is 100% provably fair.
It's true. Even though I wouldn't bother using the traditional white and black dice to play, since the dealer displayed all the dice's faces before rolling the dices, I'm aware they can still cheat through another means. Preferably, if you want to play dices, it's better to go to an online casino where you have the provably fair assurance the games' results are going to be legit. In my opinion, online casinos are more trustworthy than land based ones.

Some people may argue land based casinos are also regulated and licensed, but in fact, I don't think it means too much, because there are stories of such legal casinos which denied prizes to winners using unfair excuses, like glitches and bugs presented by their slot machines. Also, due to not having the provably fair feature available, physical casinos can manipulate results from times to times and still continue unnoticed by gamblers and regulators on their practices.

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January 25, 2024, 10:42:12 PM
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It's true. Even though I wouldn't bother using the traditional white and black dice to play, since the dealer displayed all the dice's faces before rolling the dices, I'm aware they can still cheat through another means. Preferably, if you want to play dices, it's better to go to an online casino where you have the provably fair assurance the games' results are going to be legit. In my opinion, online casinos are more trustworthy than land based ones.

Some people may argue land based casinos are also regulated and licensed, but in fact, I don't think it means too much, because there are stories of such legal casinos which denied prizes to winners using unfair excuses, like glitches and bugs presented by their slot machines. Also, due to not having the provably fair feature available, physical casinos can manipulate results from times to times and still continue unnoticed by gamblers and regulators on their practices.

You can indeed find issues in all kinds of casinos, land-based and online of course.

But you brought up the provably fair online casinos and I think if I understand correctly, hardly anyone checks any seeds to see whether a round was provably fair. I am not sure how much effort would be required to really make sure that every single round someone plays is 100% legit, but I feel that not a lot of people do those double checks. I just try to rely on casinos that have a good reputation and a long history of being around without scamming.

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in offline casinos or physical casinos playing dice can still be cheating there. for example, there are controls on the container that is used to control the dice or can change the results. and there may also be small cameras. just like in casino films in the old days like good of gambler and more. in casino games the croupier always wins.
except sports gambling sports betting is very difficult for the croupier to cheat. if can, have to spend a lot of money.


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in offline casinos or physical casinos playing dice can still be cheating there. for example, there are controls on the container that is used to control the dice or can change the results. and there may also be small cameras. just like in casino films in the old days like good of gambler and more. in casino games the croupier always wins.
except sports gambling sports betting is very difficult for the croupier to cheat. if can, have to spend a lot of money.

Is this true though? how do you know that physical casinos have rigged or rigging dice games? Or this is just a speculation on your part?

Regardless though, I don't see any difference with transparent on non-transparent dice. We all know that it is purely based on luck and even if you say that casinos are cheating, might be hard to proved that though.

Maybe in the early days of this games or even Hollywood movies, or unless really working from the inside told you the story of physical casinos cheating their way out with dice games.

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January 25, 2024, 11:40:21 PM
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You can indeed find issues in all kinds of casinos, land-based and online of course.

But you brought up the provably fair online casinos and I think if I understand correctly, hardly anyone checks any seeds to see whether a round was provably fair. I am not sure how much effort would be required to really make sure that every single round someone plays is 100% legit, but I feel that not a lot of people do those double checks. I just try to rely on casinos that have a good reputation and a long history of being around without scamming.
And that is because when we play dice, we just accept that it's a luck based matter and if we lose, then that's it. If you're unsatisfied then there's a way to verify it but then you'll be dismay because it's a fair result. Or, it's easier to accept defeat with that and we just don't want to spend time checking the authenticity of the bet through those seeds because at first place, you've been playing on your trusted casino. And as for the transparent dice, it doesn't really matter when you do that on the physical casino. Ask what you wanna request for you to become comfortable since you'll be spending your own money on it.

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Good day or evening to all of you. 
Some days ago I was reading about casinos, specifically brick and mortar ones, and I learnt that in most of those establishments people only use dices made with transparent resins or materials, so gamblers can be sure those are not rigged to favour some number over others. That made me think about how many times I have played with dices which are not transparent, but white/black.

If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?

I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools.
What do you think?


The casino was the unique one in the gambling site,because the maximum game was based on the probability of winning.The gambler should try to increase their skills on numerical probability in the casino games.The dice also based on the probability and which was the one of the most played casino game in many gambling site.Most of the time the casino games was based on the number and the sports betting based on the odds.The sport betting was played with the technical skilled person in the particular game.But the fact is the casino was the majority of the participants in the gambling site and the probability was the reason.

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January 25, 2024, 11:54:34 PM
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The point is to identify whether the dice is real or fake because not many players can identify such.

I am not dice player though but as a dice player s/he should be able to identify whether that dice is fake or not, and of cause anyone who is routed in a specific gambling exercise should be able to know what such dice is real or being faked. just as those who are into investment whenever a fake investment is being introduced here you would see some people will go dig into that site to know whether such site is likely to be scam.

I read this research this week where a coin has a small bias for the face that is with the side up when tossed
Maybe a similar thing could happen to dice as well. Something to take into account when playing even if the dice is fair
For physical games its probably a bit hard to verify

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January 26, 2024, 04:13:46 AM
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The point is to identify whether the dice is real or fake because not many players can identify such.

I am not dice player though but as a dice player s/he should be able to identify whether that dice is fake or not, and of cause anyone who is routed in a specific gambling exercise should be able to know what such dice is real or being faked. just as those who are into investment whenever a fake investment is being introduced here you would see some people will go dig into that site to know whether such site is likely to be scam.

I read this research this week where a coin has a small bias for the face that is with the side up when tossed
Maybe a similar thing could happen to dice as well. Something to take into account when playing even if the dice is fair
For physical games its probably a bit hard to verify
maybe a little different from dice, because dice are cube-shaped and have 4 equal sides. unless the dice are not precise on each side it will definitely cause an imbalance when throwing so that the results will tend to one result.
That's just my observation, I still don't know whether it's true or not.

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January 26, 2024, 04:26:09 AM
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What do you think?

You have written the most interesting post in the gambling category that I have read recently.
The fact is that only now I realized that of all the three times that I have been to the casino, I have never seen transparent cubes! They were white twice and red once. And now I wonder if they were dishonest. It's also very easy to buy cubes that have weights on certain numbers.
Now I will only play where the cubes are transparent.

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January 26, 2024, 05:06:30 AM
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There is no need to be too afraid to play at casinos that have transparent dice because it will not make them riskier compared to casino platforms that use colored dice. If from the start the casino wants to cheat the players, they don't need to make the dice transparent, just by manipulating the game they can win over the players. Especially if it's a reputable casino, players don't need to worry that their dice games will be rigged because usually reputable platforms ensure that their games run safely and comfortably for the players.

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January 26, 2024, 04:05:01 PM
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Maybe they use transparent dice for the people to not doubt them? But I agree with you that if the casino plans to rig their games, they still can do it and it can be done in another way, not only through the dice that they are using.

If I'm invited to play on a new casino, I will be glad to accept the invitation because I'm also curious and excited if what experience I can get there. They might have offers like free games, so I wouldn't feel scared to play at first. This means it wouldn't really matter if what colour of dice they are using. Even on the past, I also don't pay attention to it. I just accept my losses easily because I know it can normally happen in gambling.
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