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January 28, 2024, 02:07:43 AM
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Then that's not what I'd call an addiction. I'd say it's just an intense urge to gamble. The difference is they can manage their life properly mostly in terms of their financial situation. If you were to look up what addiction first result states that
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Addiction is defined as a chronic, relapsing disorder characterized by compulsive drug seeking and use despite adverse consequences.

Keyword in this case is "despite adverse consequences". The only thing really affected here is his personal time since he gambles a lot, but could you say the same for anyone else who pursues a passion or something similar? You'd probably just let them be really. Same instance here imo.

Src: https://nida.nih.gov/publications/drugs-brains-behavior-science-addiction/drug-misuse-addiction

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January 28, 2024, 04:33:58 AM
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This is if the addict is a rich person and has a business that makes big profits every day so that their addiction is not too big a problem and they consider their addiction as fun and they don't think too much about the losses they experience so they can still carry out their activities as usual and don't have any problem, whether economic problems or family problems, because the economy is sometimes the number 1 problem among the many problems that occur.

However, if someone who is addicted is an ordinary person and has a mediocre income then this could be a big problem because his addiction will disrupt his economic stability and he must immediately get help to stop his addiction before the problem gets worse. Someone who is addicted to gambling is very bad for middle class people down so never assume that gambling addiction is not dangerous because gambling addiction is very dangerous for a person's life.

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January 28, 2024, 04:35:50 AM
Last edit: January 29, 2024, 12:01:00 PM by len01
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If you're talking about those who are able to lead lives while still getting the impulse to gamble and are actively acting upon it with no hesitation, then I got news for you, they are already digging their own graves and if no action was taken to prevent them from going off deeper into the abyss that is gambling addiction, then the problems you're talking about is going to manifest and become more apparent. Which is why people should always stop gambling immediately soon as they feel like they are doing something they shouldn't do. Cause once you lose yourself in the game it's going to be even harder to come back.
It is true that what you say is very reasonable when a gambler has desire to continue to gamble even though real life has no problem I think they have to stop gambling and leaving gambling for a while.
the encouragement to continue gambling is one of the initial signs of addiction even though it does not look serious, but believe it is the beginning of the destruction of his life in the future because I say like this has experienced very bad gambler in the past and for those who have an early sign of addiction as if you want to continue gambling it would be better to immediately force yourself to leave gambling.
sometimes gambler experiences an early sign of addiction that will never adhere to him because it almost unreasonable but certainly as you say here that always be careful of controlling himself and always knows the initial sign of addiction and when it has a strong push when tempted by something like a big victory It would be better to immediately avoid gambling as far as possible to avoid from dark future.

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January 28, 2024, 04:59:03 AM
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Then that's not what I'd call an addiction. I'd say it's just an intense urge to gamble. The difference is they can manage their life properly mostly in terms of their financial situation. If you were to look up what addiction first result states that
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Addiction is defined as a chronic, relapsing disorder characterized by compulsive drug seeking and use despite adverse consequences.

Keyword in this case is "despite adverse consequences". The only thing really affected here is his personal time since he gambles a lot, but could you say the same for anyone else who pursues a passion or something similar? You'd probably just let them be really. Same instance here imo.

Src: https://nida.nih.gov/publications/drugs-brains-behavior-science-addiction/drug-misuse-addiction

Time? Yes, of course a gambler will have an influence on time, but in context like this there are still gambling addicts who can divide their time for work or business and time for gambling, even though they will spend more time gambling.
Most important thing is that there is good management of time which can be used for other more useful things, as I said before, it all depends on the background of the gambling addicts.
There are rich gamblers who are business people and they are addicted but they can manage their time professionally and not interfere with their work hours, this is one example of how gambling addict who actually still has good mindset.
They can gamble all night long but the next day they can run their business well, isn't this quite impressive?
The background of gamblers from low economy can be worse in terms of addiction because they will only prioritize ambition and forget something that is mandatory in maintaining financial stability.
I know several entrepreneurs and they are addicted to gambling almost every night and spend lot of money but there is in their finances because they are still able to run their business in condition that is addicted to gambling.

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January 28, 2024, 05:38:48 AM
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If you could afford to gamble but spend too much time that could be considered a problem.  I'd only rate big problem when its somebody who is ignoring the reality of their game somehow, if you can still handle each loss and accept a win may not repeat with every the possibility then you are on the level.  I've spent all day gambling in the past and its not been a massive problem because I didnt go past my budget, it was some winnings some loss with no idea that somehow I had to stack them all together or bet bigger each time just took some interest in each bet placed and it was fine
Anything that's in excess is almost always a bad thing in my opinion so if there's a moderation in what you do and you get out of it at a reasonable duration, I think that you're fine and the gambling that you're doing is going to be just fine. For though, there's no white or black when it comes to addiction, that something good can come out of addiction is probably not something I often think about, I think that addiction is almost always a bad thing to happen. To me, addiction is just like poverty, it's only romantic when it's on book or movie, in a grounded realism, it's gross and you don't want to put yourself in that position deliberately because once your in, it's not going to be like the one in the books.



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January 28, 2024, 06:04:54 AM
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Some people who gamble can still do their daily tasks and look successful but we need to understand that addiction is a big problem. Addiction means anyone can't control his/her behavior and it can cause bad things to happen in their lives. Addiction can make money unstable and make  feel bad. If we ignore or excuse addiction just because someone looks successful it keeps causing harm and doesn't solve the real problem. It's really important to help people with addiction no matter how successful they seem on the outside.

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January 28, 2024, 06:47:45 AM
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This is if the addict is a rich person and has a business that makes big profits every day so that their addiction is not too big a problem and they consider their addiction as fun and they don't think too much about the losses they experience so they can still carry out their activities as usual and don't have any problem, whether economic problems or family problems, because the economy is sometimes the number 1 problem among the many problems that occur.

However, if someone who is addicted is an ordinary person and has a mediocre income then this could be a big problem because his addiction will disrupt his economic stability and he must immediately get help to stop his addiction before the problem gets worse. Someone who is addicted to gambling is very bad for middle class people down so never assume that gambling addiction is not dangerous because gambling addiction is very dangerous for a person's life.

Well, in my own opinion I think when someone play gamble more often as a result of being Addicted to gambling it becomes a problem,more especially those that preferred virtual sports instead of normal bet,I think those set of people get addicted to gambling so easily,some can even decide to spend the whole of the day in a gambling shop,there are most of them who happens to be a working class gambler, probably on there way going to work they can decide to stop in the nearest betting shop without realizing that they are up to work, maybe they can decide to try just one hand before going to work.without knowing that gambling itself has a bad spirit,on the contrary they might even end up going to work late and in this case they can have him sacked as a result of not being punctual and it becomes a problem.
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January 28, 2024, 07:43:48 AM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


I guess so. I mean as long as you are fulfilling your responsibilities correctly, gambling addiction won't be a problem.
I wonder if it is even an addiction because if it is an addiction then you won't be able to focus on other things correctly at all.

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January 28, 2024, 09:00:36 AM
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So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?
If you are gambling and it is not affecting you, that means you are not addicted to gambling at all. Gambling addiction is when it is taking your time or money. If gambling is not taking your time or money, that means you are not addicted but having fun.

Gambling addiction can be referred to as problem gambling. If you do not have problem in gambling, that means you are not addicted to it. If gambling is not affecting you financially and not taking your time that you want to use for other important things, no matter the time you spend gambling, that is not addiction.
I think you can have an addiction and not have significant problems. That is, in fact there are problems, but they are not significant enough to interfere with your life. For example, I don't like that I play games too often. It takes up a lot of my time. Although I don't lose a lot thanks to risk management and good money management. And often I even win. And my capital grows on the long term. But capital cannot grow in the long term if you do not concentrate your attention on the subject of games. And this is possible only with some degree of dependence.
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January 28, 2024, 09:07:15 AM
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I believe that gambling addiction is already bad before it becomes a problem, because whatever you are addicted to becomes a part of yourself, even when you realize that it's a problem, to beat the addiction will be a bigger problem, precaution is always better than cure.

I don't encourage getting addicted to gambling, it's not a good thing, addiction is taking things to far, and too much of everything is bad generally, there is no such thing as good addiction, it will cause you big problem.

Even if you are responsible and taking care of your family, addiction is a big problem and it will affect you sooner, it's better not to get addicted at all.
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January 28, 2024, 10:25:07 AM
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Even if some gamblers seem to handle their addiction while keeping things together, it can still become a problem over time. Even successful gamblers may face issues like money troubles or strained relationships eventually. So, addiction is seen as a problem because it can lead to negative consequences, even if they're not obvious right away. too much of anything is addiction and any kind of addiction is a problem

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January 28, 2024, 10:34:19 AM
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Gambling addiction has no good sides. In my thinking, gambling addiction is the height of gambling where a gambler knows that gambling is a problem in his life but cannot stop it. An addictive gambler can gamble all his finances and even run into debt just to gamble. When one is a gambling addict, he places gambling above everything including job and family.

Sadly, he can call in sick at his job just to have the time to gamble. He appears so irresponsible, most times thinks of committing suicide, easily gets mood swings, occupies his mind with the hopes of winning all he has lost in gambling and so continues to borrow just to gamble whenever he blows up his finances. Show me an addictive gambler and I will show you an irresponsible debtor with a shortened lifespan.

Addiction is a physical, uncontrollable and persistent urge over something that can impact negatively in any ones daily life. Anything addition in gambling has generally become a problem, once you are an addict you lose focus on other important stuff, financial distress and difficulties and so many others. The impacts of gambling addiction can vary from person to person, addiction in gambling is generally regarded as a problem.
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Some people who gamble can still do their daily tasks and look successful but we need to understand that addiction is a big problem. Addiction means anyone can't control his/her behavior and it can cause bad things to happen in their lives. Addiction can make money unstable and make  feel bad. If we ignore or excuse addiction just because someone looks successful it keeps causing harm and doesn't solve the real problem. It's really important to help people with addiction no matter how successful they seem on the outside.
It's true, those who have experienced gambling addiction will find it very difficult to control themselves not to gamble within a few days. They always want to gamble every day and they make money only for their gambling needs and will not think about other people and when they lose again. of the bets they play, of course they will get emotional quickly and many other bad things will happen to those who are addicted to gambling.

Only they themselves can get rid of their gambling habits but it will be very difficult not to gamble anymore and they can only reduce their gambling activities slowly, if they themselves don't want to stop then other people will not be able to teach them to stop gambling.

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January 28, 2024, 11:20:51 AM
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Even if some gamblers seem to handle their addiction while keeping things together, it can still become a problem over time. Even successful gamblers may face issues like money troubles or strained relationships eventually. So, addiction is seen as a problem because it can lead to negative consequences, even if they're not obvious right away. too much of anything is addiction and any kind of addiction is a problem

Successful gamblers like you said may face some challenges if he/she is an addict and doesn't take measure when betting. One thing I see to be more important in gambling whether you are an addict or not is money management. If you can control this together with your greediness, I don't think you will have problem as a gambler.

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January 28, 2024, 11:40:08 AM
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If you could afford to gamble but spend too much time that could be considered a problem.  I'd only rate big problem when its somebody who is ignoring the reality of their game somehow, if you can still handle each loss and accept a win may not repeat with every the possibility then you are on the level.  I've spent all day gambling in the past and its not been a massive problem because I didnt go past my budget, it was some winnings some loss with no idea that somehow I had to stack them all together or bet bigger each time just took some interest in each bet placed and it was fine
Anything that's in excess is almost always a bad thing in my opinion so if there's a moderation in what you do and you get out of it at a reasonable duration, I think that you're fine and the gambling that you're doing is going to be just fine. For though, there's no white or black when it comes to addiction, that something good can come out of addiction is probably not something I often think about, I think that addiction is almost always a bad thing to happen. To me, addiction is just like poverty, it's only romantic when it's on book or movie, in a grounded realism, it's gross and you don't want to put yourself in that position deliberately because once your in, it's not going to be like the one in the books.

That's true, not only with gambling, in my opinion everything that is done excessively will only bring problems Also with other things gambling that is done excessively is certainly not a good thing because in gambling there is a big possibility of losing and if it is done excessively it means that we are spending a lot of money on gambling, which is not what we should do.  Unless gambling is very likely to always get profitable wins, it's no problem if you do it excessively.

I agree with you, the fact is that addiction only leads to bad things. Becoming addicted to gambling is not a good thing, because that means we will only think about the losses that occur when gambling, because the difficulty of winning in gambling is a fact and in my opinion this has become a problem that is discussed a lot in every thread. which exists. because gambling addiction is not good, the many bad effects that can occur due to gambling addiction cannot be hidden.

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January 28, 2024, 12:44:21 PM
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This is if the addict is a rich person and has a business that makes big profits every day so that their addiction is not too big a problem and they consider their addiction as fun and they don't think too much about the losses they experience so they can still carry out their activities as usual and don't have any problem, whether economic problems or family problems, because the economy is sometimes the number 1 problem among the many problems that occur.

However, if someone who is addicted is an ordinary person and has a mediocre income then this could be a big problem because his addiction will disrupt his economic stability and he must immediately get help to stop his addiction before the problem gets worse. Someone who is addicted to gambling is very bad for middle class people down so never assume that gambling addiction is not dangerous because gambling addiction is very dangerous for a person's life.

Well, in my own opinion I think when someone play gamble more often as a result of being Addicted to gambling it becomes a problem,more especially those that preferred virtual sports instead of normal bet,I think those set of people get addicted to gambling so easily,some can even decide to spend the whole of the day in a gambling shop,there are most of them who happens to be a working class gambler, probably on there way going to work they can decide to stop in the nearest betting shop without realizing that they are up to work, maybe they can decide to try just one hand before going to work.without knowing that gambling itself has a bad spirit,on the contrary they might even end up going to work late and in this case they can have him sacked as a result of not being punctual and it becomes a problem.
I agree that gambling, especially addiction, can ruin lives. Gambling itself isnt the culprit; its our relationship with it.

Gambling is a method for many to relax and spice up their daily lives. The unknown and what could be intrigues individuals. However, I believe that when fun turns into dependency, the repercussions can be terrible for the individual and their family. Mindfulness and moderation are needed to maintain this delicate equilibrium.

Given this, I endorse a storyline that promotes enjoyable gambling and awareness and help for people in need. Its about developing healthy, controlled environments for this activity online and offline. Gambling may be fun and exciting while encouraging ethical gambling and helping those in need.

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January 28, 2024, 12:57:53 PM
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Anything that's too much is bad, whether it causes a problem or not. That is why moderation is the key to anything, and just because one isn't losing money to anything doesn't mean they aren't causing problems. Their time is probably something that is the most affected of these all because it takes a lot of it to gamble that religiously.

Addicts not losing money are losing something in the process that they are completely oblivious about, and that's something worth pondering IMO.

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January 28, 2024, 01:27:02 PM
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Even if some gamblers seem to handle their addiction while keeping things together, it can still become a problem over time. Even successful gamblers may face issues like money troubles or strained relationships eventually. So, addiction is seen as a problem because it can lead to negative consequences, even if they're not obvious right away. too much of anything is addiction and any kind of addiction is a problem
Yes, gambling addiction is a bad habit that must be eliminated because anything that is excessive will certainly be a problem in our lives, that's why it is important to understand good control when gambling because when you are addicted to gambling it will be difficult to control yourself, there are many things that we don't want and hope for. happens to ourselves when we start to be addicted to gambling, always be aware of anything at the beginning when you start to gamble excessively then stop it.

In fact, I consciously believe that everyone has awareness when they start to become addicted to gambling, it's just that they ignore whatever happens to them, which is something that won't be a problem in the future, which is why the average person who is addicted to gambling doesn't feel the initial symptoms that are in their mind. They are that they carry out gambling properly but in other people's opinion it is quite outrageous and is called a gambling addiction. The point is to always listen to whatever people closest to us give advice, never ignore any advice because whatever it is, everyone will want us to be better people. Gambling addiction is a source of problems for gamblers.

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January 28, 2024, 02:37:18 PM
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Anything that's too much is bad, whether it causes a problem or not. That is why moderation is the key to anything, and just because one isn't losing money to anything doesn't mean they aren't causing problems. Their time is probably something that is the most affected of these all because it takes a lot of it to gamble that religiously.

Addicts not losing money are losing something in the process that they are completely oblivious about, and that's something worth pondering IMO.
I agree with you because when we gamble excessively, it can impact us, which is likely to be bad. And yes, moderation is a way not to overdo it, especially in gambling, so we must always remember to limit the gambling activities we do. Playing gambling can cause us to lose a lot of money, especially when we lose self-control, so that's what we have to take care of while gambling.

The addict will not realize how much money he has lost because he only thinks about gambling. But for those of us who have not or are not addicted to gambling, we must always be able to moderate our gambling activities so that we do not experience problems after playing gambling or experiencing gambling addiction.

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January 28, 2024, 03:30:34 PM
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As far as I know, addiction is a serious illness that must be treated very urgently. There is no such thing as someone being addicted to something and yet that person declaring themselves to be well, that kind of thing is a lie, and an illusion. the person can argue that he is managing to live well even with addiction because he can buy clothes, he hasn't sold anything to anyone and he hasn't committed any crime, but this is only temporary, and when I talk about temporary I mean a short time, after the short Over time, the person addicted to gambling will start to get worse, the tendency of an addicted person who refuses to indulge has always been to continue getting worse and will start to reach the point of committing crimes.

If addiction is not treated, it leads people into the world of crime. Unfortunately, many people ignore this and don't take this point seriously. They think that addiction is a light thing, that they can cure themselves whenever they want, but that's not true. Addiction is a disease that must be treated very urgently. I hope that all people who cannot stay without playing seek help from a doctor and undergo treatment urgently, because the sooner they undergo treatment then the sooner they will be cured and that is very good for them and for all the people who are close to them. from them. I've seen some people who fell into addiction and refused to accept that they were addicted and died as a result.

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