Bitcoin Forum
May 10, 2024, 06:59:33 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 [9] 10 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Is addiction bad only when it is a problem?  (Read 863 times)
klidex
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1386
Merit: 504


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile
February 01, 2024, 03:47:40 AM
 #161

Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?




Addiction is always bad. Addiction means that you have done something too many times and it has completely scrambled your brains neurochemical reward system. And unless that person abstains from gambling, they will only get worse and the reward will get less. Just like with drug addiction.

The secret to keeping your sanity is to take very long breaks from gambling every now and then.

But then again there is a difference between a hobby and an addiction. Not every gambler gets addicted. Somebodies gambling behaivor should only be considered an addiction if it becomes problematic to himself and/or other people. 
Someone who has experienced an addiction will definitely have a bad impact on their life and this will of course cause their financial problems to decline further. Even if there is someone who is addicted to gambling and has no problems then he is a rich person because only rich people don't have too many problems if they are addicted and gambling is like a hobby that he considers fun.
You needs to know that excessive gambling can cause a person to lose controls, causing addiction and if you experience something like that, it can cause problem for yourself.

It's true that when we start to get out of control, it's a good idea to take a break from the world of gambling for a long time, this will stop addictive activities for a while. And we also don't have to assume that people who gamble are addicted because some gamblers are responsible be responsible in carrying out his activities so that he does not worry that there will be problems for him due to his gambling.

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
1715324373
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715324373

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715324373
Reply with quote  #2

1715324373
Report to moderator
1715324373
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715324373

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715324373
Reply with quote  #2

1715324373
Report to moderator
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
1715324373
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715324373

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715324373
Reply with quote  #2

1715324373
Report to moderator
Strongkored
Legendary
*
Online Online

Activity: 2772
Merit: 1112


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile WWW
February 01, 2024, 06:48:29 AM
 #162

Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?

Maybe he can't be categorized as addicted yet or his addiction isn't serious, although I don't know for sure whether there are levels of addiction, so he can still control his gambling, he just can't resist his gambling desires.
However, if there is a level of addiction and he is still categorized as low, it does not mean he will remain at that level, because everything about addiction will ultimately be destructive because it will control his emotions. If currently he can still play normally then in the future he can ignore other things just to be able to keep gambling, including ignoring the limit of money that can be spent gambling, so that in the end he will still need professional help to recover from his addiction.
And in my opinion, addiction is still an addiction that may not seem destructive today, but slowly it will damage the person who experiences it later.

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
justdimin
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2996
Merit: 670


www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games


View Profile
February 01, 2024, 09:52:53 AM
 #163

What you are saying I don't think that's call addicted they are affording the amount may by that they can gambling daily I mean regular. So I don't think there is any crime or bad think if he can afford the money and the gambling can't effect his family or life. If the gambling effect on his family or in his life then I will say he is a addicted gambler. Rather than I won't gonna say anyone addicted gambler for gambling regularly beyond with his afford
If a person becomes addicted to gambling, it will gradually affect his family. If someone becomes completely addicted to gambling, he will gradually distance himself from his family and relatives. Those who become addicted to gambling  There is never peace in the family, it is always spent in turmoil. Because the gambler will always get involved in various crimes to collect money for gambling, which can lead to many problems in the family.
That part is the worst part, if it is impacting their family then I would say that it would not be all that smart. The best way to do would be just making sure that we are not hurting the ones we love. If your gambling is hurting the ones you love, your addiction starts to become their problems as well, then I would say it is not really something that would benefit everyone. This is why I think we should not really be considering it as an important thing.

We should consider it as something that will benefit them one way or another, and if it is not benefiting them then don't do it. You may think "well in gambling people usually lose, how could it benefit all around us?" well simply, you, not spending a lot, but still being in good mood is what they would want.

█████████████████████████
███████▄▄▀▀███▀▀▄▄███████
████████▄███▄████████
█████▄▄█▀▀███▀▀█▄▄█████
████▀▀██▀██████▀██▀▀████
████▄█████████████▄████
███████▀███████▀███████
████▀█████████████▀████
████▄▄██▄████▄██▄▄████
█████▀▀███▀▄████▀▀█████
████████▀███▀████████
███████▀▀▄▄███▄▄▀▀███████
█████████████████████████
.
 CRYPTOGAMES 
.
 Catch the winning spirit! 
█▄░▀███▌░▄
███▄░▀█░▐██▄
▀▀▀▀▀░░░▀▀▀▀▀
████▌░▐█████▀
████░░█████
███▌░▐███▀
███░░███
██▌░▐█▀
PROGRESSIVE
      JACKPOT      
██░░▄▄
▀▀░░████▄
▄▄▄▄██▀░░▄▄
░░░▀▀█░░▀██▄
███▄░░▀▄░█▀▀
█████░░█░░▄▄█
█████░░██████
█████░░█░░▀▀█
LOW HOUSE
         EDGE         
██▄
███░░░░░░░▄▄
█▀░░░░░░░████
█▄░░░░░░░░█▀
██▄░░░░░░▄█
███▄▄░░▄██▌
██████████
█████████▌
PREMIUM VIP
 MEMBERSHIP 
DICE   ROULETTE   BLACKJACK   KENO   MINESWEEPER   VIDEO POKER   PLINKO   SLOT   LOTTERY
Sakanwa
Full Member
***
Online Online

Activity: 504
Merit: 141


★Bitvest.io★ Play Plinko or Invest!


View Profile
February 01, 2024, 10:11:59 AM
 #164

Addiction becomes a problem from the day you failed in being able to control yourself when it comes to gambling. It is as worst as anything one can ever think of, because it is the tap root of frustration.Those who are addicted to gambling,and no longer have a dime to gamble suffer depression,which laters turns them into something they never dreamt of.Depression is the brother of madness,and once you are depressed,it takes the grace of God to be a sound person again in life.We all have to be careful about anything that one can be addicted to,either gambling or any other form of addiction.

nimethasa
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 518
Merit: 283


#SWGT PRE-SALE IS LIVE


View Profile
February 01, 2024, 10:48:33 AM
 #165

addiction is very bad even though there is no problem yet, especially if the person is not able to control financial spending. then his money will only be spent to fulfill his addiction. and everyone does not realize that he is addicted before bad things happen, for example, his property runs out or becomes sick because of the addiction or goes to prison, then people realize and want to introspect.


.SWG.io.













█▀▀▀










█▄▄▄

▀▀▀█










▄▄▄█







█▀▀▀










█▄▄▄

▀▀▀█










▄▄▄█







4.45






yazher
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2184
Merit: 585


You own the pen


View Profile
February 01, 2024, 11:27:04 AM
 #166


It's true that when we start to get out of control, it's a good idea to take a break from the world of gambling for a long time, this will stop addictive activities for a while. And we also don't have to assume that people who gamble are addicted because some gamblers are responsible be responsible in carrying out his activities so that he does not worry that there will be problems for him due to his gambling.

If it goes wrong like you cannot distinguish right from wrong after getting addicted to gambling or drugs and others, this is when the problem starts because this will be hard to cure and the healing process is completed because there are lots of procedures to get back to your old self. you need to have lots of adjustments and one of them is to migrate to other places that don't have any of these problems and no people out there can influence you back to your old habits. that's why if you don't have such capability, just stick to the rules of prevention is better than cure.

.freebitcoin.       ▄▄▄█▀▀██▄▄▄
   ▄▄██████▄▄█  █▀▀█▄▄
  ███  █▀▀███████▄▄██▀
   ▀▀▀██▄▄█  ████▀▀  ▄██
▄███▄▄  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  ▄▄██████
██▀▀█████▄     ▄██▀█ ▀▀██
██▄▄███▀▀██   ███▀ ▄▄  ▀█
███████▄▄███ ███▄▄ ▀▀▄  █
██▀▀████████ █████  █▀▄██
 █▄▄████████ █████   ███
  ▀████  ███ ████▄▄███▀
     ▀▀████   ████▀▀
BITCOIN
DICE
EVENT
BETTING
WIN A LAMBO !

.
            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███████████▄▄▄▄▄
▄▄▄▄▄██████████████████████████████████▄▄▄▄
▀██████████████████████████████████████████████▄▄▄
▄▄████▄█████▄████████████████████████████▄█████▄████▄▄
▀████████▀▀▀████████████████████████████████▀▀▀██████████▄
  ▀▀▀████▄▄▄███████████████████████████████▄▄▄██████████
       ▀█████▀  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  ▀█████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
.PLAY NOW.
Blitzboy
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1218
Merit: 556


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile
February 01, 2024, 12:10:19 PM
 #167

What you are saying I don't think that's call addicted they are affording the amount may by that they can gambling daily I mean regular. So I don't think there is any crime or bad think if he can afford the money and the gambling can't effect his family or life. If the gambling effect on his family or in his life then I will say he is a addicted gambler. Rather than I won't gonna say anyone addicted gambler for gambling regularly beyond with his afford
If a person becomes addicted to gambling, it will gradually affect his family. If someone becomes completely addicted to gambling, he will gradually distance himself from his family and relatives. Those who become addicted to gambling  There is never peace in the family, it is always spent in turmoil. Because the gambler will always get involved in various crimes to collect money for gambling, which can lead to many problems in the family.
That part is the worst part, if it is impacting their family then I would say that it would not be all that smart. The best way to do would be just making sure that we are not hurting the ones we love. If your gambling is hurting the ones you love, your addiction starts to become their problems as well, then I would say it is not really something that would benefit everyone. This is why I think we should not really be considering it as an important thing.

We should consider it as something that will benefit them one way or another, and if it is not benefiting them then don't do it. You may think "well in gambling people usually lose, how could it benefit all around us?" well simply, you, not spending a lot, but still being in good mood is what they would want.
I believe our hobbies shouldn't be nightmares for our families. If my love of chocolate gave my family cavities, I'd have to change my snack choices, right? Moderation is crucial, as you said.

I'm no expert, but in my extensive experience of winning the occasional wager against my own overconfidence, the actual jackpot is joy, not money. A precise balance is needed to avoid wagering the family farm on "Sure Thing." Because "Sure Thing" probably grazes more than races.

I suggest keeping it fun, light, and most importantly, as another way to spice up life. A bet on who washes the dishes? Harmless. Transforming the living room become Vegas? Possible overkill. The greatest win is a happy household.

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
harapan
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1708
Merit: 298



View Profile
February 01, 2024, 12:33:13 PM
 #168

Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


Yes, addiction can't be a problem to those that are well to do, because they have made allocation and savings for all their Gambling activities so there won't be any interruptions of sort.
It may seem bad and a problem to those people that can't meet up their targets,like their personal needs,family and all of that,so it's best preferably to gamble when you have all areas of your life at a balance or equilibrium so it won't alter your state be of position.

And both parties are addicted here but how you lay your bed,is how you will lie on it, Nevertheless before you venture into such gambling,you plan first,your life,savings ad everything so you will have good dealings and outcome

freebitcoin       ▄▄▄█▀▀██▄▄▄
   ▄▄██████▄▄█  █▀▀█▄▄
  ███  █▀▀███████▄▄██▀
   ▀▀▀██▄▄█  ████▀▀  ▄██
▄███▄▄  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  ▄▄██████
██▀▀█████▄     ▄██▀█ ▀▀██
██▄▄███▀▀██   ███▀ ▄▄  ▀█
███████▄▄███ ███▄▄ ▀▀▄  █
██▀▀████████ █████  █▀▄██
 █▄▄████████ █████   ███
  ▀████  ███ ████▄▄███▀
     ▀▀████   ████▀▀
BITCOIN
DICE
EVENT
BETTING
WIN A LAMBO !

.
            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███████████▄▄▄▄▄
▄▄▄▄▄██████████████████████████████████▄▄▄▄
▀██████████████████████████████████████████████▄▄▄
▄▄████▄█████▄████████████████████████████▄█████▄████▄▄
▀████████▀▀▀████████████████████████████████▀▀▀██████████▄
  ▀▀▀████▄▄▄███████████████████████████████▄▄▄██████████
       ▀█████▀  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  ▀█████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
▄█████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
▀█████
.
PLAY NOW
█████▄
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
█████▀
ethereumhunter
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2884
Merit: 541


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile
February 01, 2024, 01:43:37 PM
 #169

this is why I said at that time that all forms of addiction will definitely end badly because addiction starts with something that is excessive and ultimately becomes addiction.
all forms of addiction definitely always have a negative view, especially if it happens to gambling because gambling addiction always only thinks about continuing to gamble for various reasons such as wanting to get a big win, frustration, chasing losses, etc. but still it is a big problem for a gambler.
so there is no reason for anyone to say that addiction depends on whether he has problems with his family or not, but in the long term it will definitely affect family harmony because a gambling addict will not think about the future of his family and will only think about how he can gamble again.

most of the gambling addicts I met always had problems in their families, either separating from their wives or having abused their families.
maybe there is a gambling addict who has no problems with his family, but these are just the first signs of addiction and if he has exhausted all his savings and valuables, things will definitely get worse.
In this case, it would be better for anyone who feels they have an early sign of addiction, it would be better to immediately go to a specialist to cure their addiction as you said.
When someone has become addicted to gambling, he will not see other things except just wanting to continue gambling, even until he finally becomes frustrated because he cannot win the gambling game. That won't stop him from gambling because his goals have now changed and he only wants to gamble. He will no longer pay attention to what is happening around him because his focus has changed, and it is difficult to realize that he has become addicted to gambling, which has become even worse than before. He also won't think about his family or how he can meet his family's daily needs of his family so this will have an even bigger impact on his family. Somehow, he got deeper and deeper into gambling until he finally forgot what he was supposed to do, and he even stopped trying for his family and only cared about himself in gambling.

A gambling addict who is married can have an impact on his family because he may no longer provide money for his family and is only busy with himself in gambling. If his family also starts to forget about his presence, he will become increasingly immersed in gambling without anyone being able to help him. Even his own family will not want to help him. This will make him even more devastated because of gambling and that is because of his own fault. But if a gambler wants to understand that he doesn't need to gamble too often and that there is a family he should care about rather than just gambling, he will try to reduce his gambling activities and pay more attention to his family.

If you are winning and you arent that compromising something then it should really be just fine. Whenever you arent that financially devastated then it would really be just that fine but we know that gambling
luckiness doesnt really last long or would really be having that kind of effect that would really be sustainable. If there would be times that you would be lucky then there are those times that you would really be that
having the opposite on which this is why it would really be that best that you should really be wary about those probabilities. If you are really that making money with gambling then good for you but you should
really be that careful on which there would really be those times or moments on which you would really be needing to adjust accordingly.

Having that realistic approach on things specially with gambling on which we know that the longer you do engage the more chances or odds that you would be losing in the end of the line.
This is why it would really be that best that you should really be just that playing for fun and minimize loses as much as possible.
If we win and are still aware that the win is a bonus for us, we will probably stop our gambling activities. But most gamblers will forget that the win they get is actually a sign that they should immediately end their gambling game but will instead continue gambling because they want an even bigger win. This is why more and more people are down because they are trying to get even bigger wins. They don't know when to stop gambling but instead keep gambling so this will only cause bigger problems for them where they can experience a gambling addiction that they won't even realize. So we must always be careful when gambling and don't forget the limits when gambling so that we don't experience serious problems.

Playing gambling in moderation is okay and we can do it so that we don't forget the limits we have set. This is very important to understand because, in gambling, a person can forget to control himself until, in the end, he will only experience a gambling addiction. And that's what we have to avoid from gambling because when we experience gambling addiction, it will become a serious problem for us.

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
Heartilly
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 697
Merit: 253


View Profile
February 01, 2024, 01:49:03 PM
 #170

Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?

You should already know the answer just by analyzing the situation you have shared. Let's think about this, a gambler is truly addicted to gambling but in real life, still a person on their self and responsible. We can say that the gambling addiction of that person is not that bad but there's always a possibility that it might turn into bad if unable to keep it that way for long.

But looking at the real situation in gambling, those who are addicted are mostly ended up as irresponsible people.
FanEagle
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2856
Merit: 1114


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile
February 02, 2024, 02:34:33 PM
 #171

It is important to remember that addiction could have no bad results as well, doesn't mean that it is not addiction. Just like the OP is asking, you are seeing having an addiction that has an impending doom if you are not really careful, and that means just because you haven't had a terrible result so far, doesn't mean you will not have it later on neither, you should be careful about it one way or another.

There are too many people who are not careful about it, and they end up losing in the end. Imagine a person who gambles for a year or two and he wins a lot from sports betting, he has an addiction but he made money so he thinks all is well, then for a year he keeps losing and eventually has nothing left, as you can see that person never saw it as addiction ended up losing it all.

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
danherbias07
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3122
Merit: 1119


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile
February 02, 2024, 02:50:01 PM
 #172

Addiction becomes a problem from the day you failed in being able to control yourself when it comes to gambling. It is as worst as anything one can ever think of, because it is the tap root of frustration.Those who are addicted to gambling,and no longer have a dime to gamble suffer depression,which laters turns them into something they never dreamt of.Depression is the brother of madness,and once you are depressed,it takes the grace of God to be a sound person again in life.We all have to be careful about anything that one can be addicted to,either gambling or any other form of addiction.
Half correct. A gambler can lose control in one day but recover the next day.
I still believe there's always a chance for anyone to go back to their normal days. Once upon a time, I gambled 2 days with less sleep and I thought to myself that I was a gambling addict. I got stressed at those times too but when I decided to stop for a day, I returned to being an occasional gambler only.
It's all just mental. We can actually control it but we are denying the chance. We want to change our daily routine but because we still have the money, we don't stop.
What happened to me was that I lacked the money but I never tried to find a way to get more just to gamble it again. Never even tried a loan or borrowed money from a friend.
It's all about discipline after a loss and gambling ain't a problem yet if are in that state, if we can still somehow make a choice to stop and just prefer not playing for the day because we lack the funds.
The gambling addicts though are way different, they are the vice versa of all that I have said. They cannot keep control anymore and they are in a bad state financially and yet they will do anything to gamble again.
Once we were not able to sleep thinking about gambling, that's a sign that we might be defeated by addiction.

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
Jawhead999
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1652
Merit: 1158



View Profile
February 02, 2024, 02:55:55 PM
 #173

There are too many people who are not careful about it, and they end up losing in the end. Imagine a person who gambles for a year or two and he wins a lot from sports betting, he has an addiction but he made money so he thinks all is well, then for a year he keeps losing and eventually has nothing left, as you can see that person never saw it as addiction ended up losing it all.
You're correct, there's no way an addict can protect their wealth when they're the one who waste their money. Even they're born from rich parents or they have a big and autopilot business, sooner or later they will broke since there's no guarantee the business always make money and their parents can't escape from death.

The phrase about this conditions  "the wheel still turning".

.freebitcoin.       ▄▄▄█▀▀██▄▄▄
   ▄▄██████▄▄█  █▀▀█▄▄
  ███  █▀▀███████▄▄██▀
   ▀▀▀██▄▄█  ████▀▀  ▄██
▄███▄▄  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  ▄▄██████
██▀▀█████▄     ▄██▀█ ▀▀██
██▄▄███▀▀██   ███▀ ▄▄  ▀█
███████▄▄███ ███▄▄ ▀▀▄  █
██▀▀████████ █████  █▀▄██
 █▄▄████████ █████   ███
  ▀████  ███ ████▄▄███▀
     ▀▀████   ████▀▀
BITCOIN
DICE
EVENT
BETTING
WIN A LAMBO !

.
            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███████████▄▄▄▄▄
▄▄▄▄▄██████████████████████████████████▄▄▄▄
▀██████████████████████████████████████████████▄▄▄
▄▄████▄█████▄████████████████████████████▄█████▄████▄▄
▀████████▀▀▀████████████████████████████████▀▀▀██████████▄
  ▀▀▀████▄▄▄███████████████████████████████▄▄▄██████████
       ▀█████▀  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  ▀█████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
.PLAY NOW.
Zoomic
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 434
Merit: 252


My post made philipma1957 wear signature


View Profile
February 02, 2024, 04:22:10 PM
 #174

There are too many people who are not careful about it, and they end up losing in the end. Imagine a person who gambles for a year or two and he wins a lot from sports betting, he has an addiction but he made money so he thinks all is well, then for a year he keeps losing and eventually has nothing left, as you can see that person never saw it as addiction ended up losing it all.
You're correct, there's no way an addict can protect their wealth when they're the one who waste their money. Even they're born from rich parents or they have a big and autopilot business, sooner or later they will broke since there's no guarantee the business always make money and their parents can't escape from death.

The phrase about this conditions  "the wheel still turning".

It would be quite difficult for an addicted gambler to have full control over himself whether he is winning or not. Addiction means total lack of control over your urge for something,, what happens when the gambler begins to make persistent losses? He will find it difficult to quit. Addiction is not a healthy practice, its impact might not be felt immediately but in the longrun, the negative impact will begin to surface.

Many people who got addicted because of the huge wins they had in the past are regretting why they attached so much efforts to the extent of becoming addicted. They thought the winnings will last for ever but now they are making more losses than they win.

Gambling is one activity we cannot predict its future accurately. If you win today, tomorrow might not be for you. We have to be careful not to invest so much time in gambling that we begin to look for means to run out of it.

Quidat
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2576
Merit: 539


Seabet.io | Crypto-Casino


View Profile
February 02, 2024, 04:59:06 PM
 #175

addiction is very bad even though there is no problem yet, especially if the person is not able to control financial spending. then his money will only be spent to fulfill his addiction. and everyone does not realize that he is addicted before bad things happen, for example, his property runs out or becomes sick because of the addiction or goes to prison, then people realize and want to introspect.

We should put up into our minds that when it comes to gambling on which there's no way that we could really be able to assure that we would be able to win up on everyday.
This is why it is safe to say that winning moments doesnt really last long. You cant say that you would really be that successful on gambling is something that cant be possible on long term.
This is why it would be always important that you should really be wary about reality check about gambling. Addiction is never been that good specially on dealing with gambling.
Sooner or later, you would really be able to find out yourself experiencing the totally opposite situation that you have been experiencing earlier.  Smiley

dezoel
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2016
Merit: 1072


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile
February 03, 2024, 08:16:03 PM
 #176

Maybe he can't be categorized as addicted yet or his addiction isn't serious, although I don't know for sure whether there are levels of addiction, so he can still control his gambling, he just can't resist his gambling desires.
However, if there is a level of addiction and he is still categorized as low, it does not mean he will remain at that level, because everything about addiction will ultimately be destructive because it will control his emotions. If currently he can still play normally then in the future he can ignore other things just to be able to keep gambling, including ignoring the limit of money that can be spent gambling, so that in the end he will still need professional help to recover from his addiction.
And in my opinion, addiction is still an addiction that may not seem destructive today, but slowly it will damage the person who experiences it later.
It's true, the best way to handle an addiction is to try and control it when it's not that severe because once it reaches a deeper level, it becomes difficult to control it and the person addicted will barely be able to get out of the addiction even if they want to.
So one needs to take an addiction seriously right from the beginning instead of thinking that it's not yet that serious and they aren't completely addicted so they have a lot of time because time flies and you will not even realize it and you will become heavily addicted.

I've seen a lot of people who used to be in denial when they were told that they would be in trouble if they didn't stop doing a certain thing instead of accepting it and controlling themselves.

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
shasan
Copper Member
Legendary
*
Online Online

Activity: 2198
Merit: 1271

Need a Bounty Manager? t.me/shasan32


View Profile WWW
February 10, 2024, 02:20:54 AM
 #177

Addiction is always bad whether it is gambling or any other thing. But gambling for refreshment is not a problem. Unless for mental refreshment it is obviously bad for long-lasting and for these, the person must have to suffer in the long run.
maydna
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2926
Merit: 556


View Profile
February 10, 2024, 04:37:23 PM
 #178

the best way to handle an addiction is to try and control it when it's not that severe because once it reaches a deeper level, it becomes difficult to control it and the person addicted will barely be able to get out of the addiction even if they want to.
So one needs to take an addiction seriously right from the beginning instead of thinking that it's not yet that serious and they aren't completely addicted so they have a lot of time because time flies and you will not even realize it and you will become heavily addicted.

I've seen a lot of people who used to be in denial when they were told that they would be in trouble if they didn't stop doing a certain thing instead of accepting it and controlling themselves.
Treating gambling addiction requires hard work to cure it and often also requires support from other people so that the addict can survive all the healing sessions. Those who are addicted to gambling will not feel that they are addicted to gambling, so they need other people to make them aware that they are addicted to gambling so that they can start following a program to cure their gambling addiction. People who are addicted to gambling need to be aware of their addiction first before they are willing to undergo treatment.

People who are addicted to gambling deny that they are addicted to gambling, so they will not want to admit that they are addicted to gambling. That's why many gambling addicts end up unable to cure themselves and instead get deeper into gambling.
kojektea
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2254
Merit: 256


Vave.com - Crypto Casino


View Profile WWW
February 10, 2024, 05:12:35 PM
 #179

of course if your addiction makes bad things happen in your life, but if you are an addict who doesn't involve or disturb your finances and daily activities that's not bad, that's a responsible gambler, it's bad when you gamble beyond your means which causes a lot of problems in your life, especially your finances
Asuspawer09
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1652
Merit: 426


Cashback 15%


View Profile
February 10, 2024, 06:24:29 PM
 #180

Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


For sure addiction is a bad thing, I dont really get it since you said that he is addicted, and then you said that he manages the losses, if you are addicted you want to gamble and dont really manage anything, it is for sure going to be a problem, in the long run, they might not feel it at the moment but it is for sure going to affect his life, everything that is excessive is bad for sure. I kinda not get it, I mean if he can afford to gamble that just means that he is managing his finances I guess, and not actually an addict to gambling, I mean you dont really know right maybe you could see him gamble a lot but only gamble a controlled amount. Or probably his just one of the small percentage that is just lucky on gamble, I mean there are for sure people who is addicted to gambling but very lucky to keep on winning and able to make it to a success


.
HUGE
▄██████████▄▄
▄█████████████████▄
▄█████████████████████▄
▄███████████████████████▄
▄█████████████████████████▄
███████▌██▌▐██▐██▐████▄███
████▐██▐████▌██▌██▌██▌██
█████▀███▀███▀▐██▐██▐█████

▀█████████████████████████▀

▀███████████████████████▀

▀█████████████████████▀

▀█████████████████▀

▀██████████▀▀
█▀▀▀▀











█▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
.
CASINSPORTSBOOK
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀█











▄▄▄▄█
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 [9] 10 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!