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January 28, 2024, 03:38:24 PM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


But of course it is bad, the result does not matter if you are sick, it applies to any illness.  That's what's relevant, I think you make an approach from your perspective and you believe that the situation as you raised it is "positive" if you are a winner, but it is a mistake on your part.

At the end of life's path it will take its toll in some way, there is a well-known case that is even discussed on this same board, Michael Jordan, successful, money, but he is an addict, and when he separated from his wife the scandal was his divorce, but his wife declares that infidelity was her limit, but her gambling addiction several times led her to think about divorce.

Sometimes these cases that you mention are like people who suffer from depression, nothing, but absolutely nothing, makes you predict that the end of your days (dying) is near, and it happens when you least expect it.


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January 28, 2024, 04:56:44 PM
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Gambling addiction is a very complex problem. And when someone experiences a gambling addiction, they can be sure that their condition is very bad. Individuals who are addicted to gambling cannot realize that the behavior they carry out in gambling is very detrimental to them, and they often justify their bad behavior when someone tries to advise and make them aware. And that is what causes the problem of gambling addiction to become so complex.

And an individual can be said to experience a feeling of addiction to gambling, where they are no longer able to control their gambling activities properly, which ultimately causes loss and regret. And the loss I mean is not only in financial terms, but also in terms of time. Someone who is addicted to gambling tends to prioritize their gambling activities over other activities, where they often miss very important moments for the sake of gambling. A gambling addict will only realize it when he has lost everything and no one else cares enough about him.

Before that happens in our lives, if you like gambling, then control this activity as best as possible, and try to continue to minimize losses and negative impacts from gambling. because prevention is better than cure.

just like any other vices, a person who is addicted to gambling most of the time won't listen to what you have to say. but if you encounter a gambling addict who still knows the reality of things, then i would say, he can still contain his gambling impulses and you can still reason out with him. but unluckily, most addicts have destructive behaviour, not only for themselves but to his immediately family as well.

The problem is that when we have entered and fallen into something then we will not easily accept any input that is said because in the end we also know that situations like this are a form of pure rejection from ourselves as a form of denial that what we are doing is the truth even though it is the wrong thing but we must insist on justifying it just to cover up that we are wrong in it.

This kind of situation always happens for gamblers regardless of whether brainstorming or just sharing experiences can heal in the end something like this can only happen if there is a true intention for them to stop their addiction.
Everything depends on yourself because everything will only be able to change if our intentions are really good to stop everything in the hope that life can be better.

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January 28, 2024, 05:08:27 PM
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Addiction is always frown at when it is affecting other aspects of your life and so with that people will always ring the bell that you are addicted to that thing and that is why other things in the person's life is suffering. For example if you are a contractor and you need to make a quotation for a job but instead of doing that you are busy gambling and at the end of the day you lose the contract either because you submitted it late or you didn't at all and someone's quotation was considered .

Yes generally success has plenty followership than failure, so those people who are addicted but always win huge will be considered as a gambler who knows what they are doing and balance themselves against the gamblers who are losers . If you are losing, then you can be regarded as addict since you can't cover other activities.
This will be so bad if someone who was supposed to be somewhere else is gambling or gambling taking one's time unnecessarily, or the person uses the money meant for other things for gambling. All these are to be frowned at as they will never lead any gambler anywhere good. The gambling addiction that is negative are so many, we can start calling them out from now till tomorrow with thousands already called out, and you will never see anyone wanting to associate themselves with any even though a lot do them, which is why people call gambling some sort of names. But in reality, gambling might be good in some aspects too if the gambler is responsible.

But when someone is winning all the time, or perhaps gambling is able to substitute very well for their boredom to kill it even as it is not done excessively, then they get to like it and people may not even know they gamble at times. While those who know might even encourage them to continue because it never affects their lives negatively. This is why people will not often talk about gambling or anything that is addictive so far they are not affecting people negatively. And to some, it even adds to them which makes some to be well appreciated despite it being addictive. Some addicted people are even worth emulating, this is because you can't see them going to the extreme or having irresponsible behaviour whatsoever with it. However, anything opposite this is always problematic.

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January 28, 2024, 05:24:28 PM
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Anything that's too much is bad, whether it causes a problem or not. That is why moderation is the key to anything, and just because one isn't losing money to anything doesn't mean they aren't causing problems. Their time is probably something that is the most affected of these all because it takes a lot of it to gamble that religiously.

Addicts not losing money are losing something in the process that they are completely oblivious about, and that's something worth pondering IMO.

too much money is even bad right? it's also the reason why i don't wanna be rich anymore. i hate money. lol

so let's say this gambler wins a lot and he got a lot of money. he may not consider the addiction as bad yet but after some time he will find out. it could be that he already doesn't give attention to his kids or wife which could lead to a bigger problem.

some problems don't disappear from people with money. for example too addicted may forget his health condition after sleepless nights gambling. this applies to workaholic men too.









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January 28, 2024, 05:24:35 PM
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Gambling addiction will be bad when it becomes a problem. It's not easy to say that it will be fine. In my opinion, gambling addiction is still bad even if it doesn't interfere with other activities. Don't ever feel comfortable with gambling addiction because there are times when we can't resist the temptation. That's why I say Gambling addiction is bad even for positive reasons
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January 28, 2024, 05:30:53 PM
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So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?

Any addiction is bad and will cause you problems when you don't have money to finance it... Gambling addiction (or any other addiction) will not cause you any problems if you can control yourself and your actions. Simply said, if you know your limits and if you know how much you can spend you will never have any problems, it will be all fun & games! But when you start spending more than you can afford to lose problems will start to pile up. That's the moment you start digging your own hole. So if you don't stop on time and get yourself together you will find yourself in a deep hole, and that hole can be so deep that it can be hard/impossible to get out!


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January 28, 2024, 05:36:56 PM
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Gambling addiction will be bad when it becomes a problem. It's not easy to say that it will be fine. In my opinion, gambling addiction is still bad even if it doesn't interfere with other activities. Don't ever feel comfortable with gambling addiction because there are times when we can't resist the temptation. That's why I say Gambling addiction is bad even for positive reasons

Gambling addiction has no positivity, gamblers need to remove such thoughts, in the first place. Considering gambling addiction having a positive aspect could lead some people to gamble recklessly. Once a person is addicted, it only gets worse, not better. Regardless of his ability of controlling himself wouldn't be able to make it out of addiction. Instead, he'd see himself struggle over why he can't stop gambling, unless his money exhausts. Such occurrences are not conducive for a gambler since, his motives won't corelate with his actions. One minute he wants to quit the next minute he's glued to gambling. So, it's fine to say that all form of addiction is bad or wrong. Hence, people should avoid it at all costs. At least staying in control of our emotions is an important attribute of a good gambler.

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January 28, 2024, 05:44:22 PM
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Gambling addiction will be bad when it becomes a problem. It's not easy to say that it will be fine. In my opinion, gambling addiction is still bad even if it doesn't interfere with other activities. Don't ever feel comfortable with gambling addiction because there are times when we can't resist the temptation. That's why I say Gambling addiction is bad even for positive reasons

Gambling addiction has no positivity, gamblers need to remove such thoughts, in the first place. Considering gambling addiction having a positive aspect could lead some people to gamble recklessly. Once a person is addicted, it only gets worse, not better. Regardless of his ability of controlling himself wouldn't be able to make it out of addiction. Instead, he'd see himself struggle over why he can't stop gambling, unless his money exhausts. Such occurrences are not conducive for a gambler since, his motives won't corelate with his actions. One minute he wants to quit the next minute he's glued to gambling. So, it's fine to say that all form of addiction is bad or wrong. Hence, people should avoid it at all costs. At least staying in control of our emotions is an important attribute of a good gambler.
Like you rightly said, there's no positivity in gambling addiction and that's we can't just justify it and advice people to allow themselves get addicted to gambling for any reason of whatsoever. In my years as a gambler, getting addicted to gambling have easily been the worst thing that can happen to any gambler and trying to point out any positivity in it is simply a way of telling gamblers to get addicted in gambling. It doesn't make sense and can never make sense. I will always say that if a gambler can't control his gambling activities, such person should have no business with gambling because he's very likely to ruin this life through gambling

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Like you rightly said, there's no positivity in gambling addiction and that's we can't just justify it and advice people to allow themselves get addicted to gambling for any reason of whatsoever. In my years as a gambler, getting addicted to gambling have easily been the worst thing that can happen to any gambler and trying to point out any positivity in it is simply a way of telling gamblers to get addicted in gambling. It doesn't make sense and can never make sense. I will always say that if a gambler can't control his gambling activities, such person should have no business with gambling because he's very likely to ruin this life through gambling

Sometimes I feel quite confused about individuals who experience gambling addiction. They were advised that they didn't want to, but didn't want to realize this bad behavior. Who knows what they want, maybe they only realized it when they had lost everything and no one else cared enough about them. And indeed, being able to discuss and chat casually with very, very serious gambling addicts is quite a difficult thing for us to do. And when you can discuss it with those who are addicted to gambling, it is likely that the response they will give will be quite varied, depending on several influencing factors, including the level of addiction, readiness to receive help and the addict's personal situation. and here are the tendencies of a gambling addict when invited to discuss and given advice; The first possibility is that they will deny the statements we make or underestimate the problem they are experiencing (gambling addiction) and think everything is fine. secondly, feelings of embarrassment or shame over the bad behavior they have carried out so far, making it difficult for them to receive advice and help. Third and finally, at a certain level a gambling addict may be aware of the bad actions he has committed and the problems he is experiencing, so he is willing to accept advice and help to change for the better. And usually this can be influenced by internal encouragement and external pressure that comes to him.

And if someone cannot be talked to well at all and is unable to take advice, and displays an addiction serious enough to affect their daily life, then it would be better to be taken to rehab to get help from a gambling specialist. or mental health.

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January 28, 2024, 10:21:30 PM
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Like you rightly said, there's no positivity in gambling addiction and that's we can't just justify it and advice people to allow themselves get addicted to gambling for any reason of whatsoever. In my years as a gambler, getting addicted to gambling have easily been the worst thing that can happen to any gambler and trying to point out any positivity in it is simply a way of telling gamblers to get addicted in gambling. It doesn't make sense and can never make sense. I will always say that if a gambler can't control his gambling activities, such person should have no business with gambling because he's very likely to ruin this life through gambling
You are right, there are no positive things from gambling addiction even though the OP tries to hide the many negative things from gambling addiction but unfortunately the facts of the causes of loss due to gambling addiction have been experienced by many people and other people try to explain effective experiences to avoid the addictive effects of gambling.

After I read the main thread, I assume that the explanation above does not lead to an addiction factor because he still has control within the limits of using money for betting, managing time for family and other things, so as long as you can control your emotions in gambling you can If you follow the rules for allocating time to your family, then you haven't actually reached the gambling addiction stage.

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January 28, 2024, 10:37:15 PM
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So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?
If you are gambling and it is not affecting you, that means you are not addicted to gambling at all. Gambling addiction is when it is taking your time or money. If gambling is not taking your time or money, that means you are not addicted but having fun.

Gambling addiction can be referred to as problem gambling. If you do not have problem in gambling, that means you are not addicted to it. If gambling is not affecting you financially and not taking your time that you want to use for other important things, no matter the time you spend gambling, that is not addiction.

Haha yes it seems that he doesn't really know what gambling addiction means especially what impacts will befall someone if they experience addiction, but it doesn't matter because our goal here is to share discussions and share experiences to add insight. On the other hand as you said that we can conclude that someone is addicted to gambling if they really experience the bad effects and the most common is in terms of losing balance in terms of finances and other things may be in terms of loss of time, but if gamblers do not experience or feel anything like this of course that makes them feel bad then obviously they are not addicts but they are quite active gamblers who can control their gambling activities well so that it does not have a bad impact on them.

Of course, gambling addiction is a problem that really has a bad impact on people's lives whether in terms of finances along with mental and psychological disorders, this is the furthest point a person is involved in gambling that is wrong or means not recommended which has many bad effects, not everyone can pass this phase and we can see that there is enough evidence of addicted gamblers ending up experiencing many problems such as falling poor or even going crazy. The point is that addiction is something that is synonymous with excessive actions that make gamblers experience a lot of problems, and if you don't feel or experience at least financial problems then obviously you are not addicted.

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January 28, 2024, 10:47:00 PM
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Gambling addiction will be bad when it becomes a problem. It's not easy to say that it will be fine. In my opinion, gambling addiction is still bad even if it doesn't interfere with other activities. Don't ever feel comfortable with gambling addiction because there are times when we can't resist the temptation. That's why I say Gambling addiction is bad even for positive reasons
If someone is succeeding, they won't call it an addiction, but if someone is failing, then everyone sees a problem. Furthermore, each person interprets whether or not they benefit from gaming differently. Furthermore, if the odds are not in their favor, gambling is OK. But when they start losing, they call it an addiction. And there's a rationale for everything somebody does. Therefore, something must have motivated someone to develop a gambling addiction when you witness it in others. If i need more since i can not have assess to a loan when I need money so I will not have a choice than. To see gambling as a side hustle. And my strategies works for me so anyone that is not not comfortable with gambling should leave it a lone. Me will keep up my gambling game.

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Well, in my own opinion I think when someone play gamble more often as a result of being Addicted to gambling it becomes a problem,more especially those that preferred virtual sports instead of normal bet,I think those set of people get addicted to gambling so easily,some can even decide to spend the whole of the day in a gambling shop,there are most of them who happens to be a working class gambler, probably on there way going to work they can decide to stop in the nearest betting shop without realizing that they are up to work, maybe they can decide to try just one hand before going to work.without knowing that gambling itself has a bad spirit,on the contrary they might even end up going to work late and in this case they can have him sacked as a result of not being punctual and it becomes a problem.
Someone who gambles continuously will definitely one day cause problems whether it's work problems or financial problems, for sports lovers they can gamble easily in sports betting without having to worry about being addicted to gambling but if they do it continuously without stopping it can cause them experienced significant losses, even for ordinary bets, I think this is not about gambling on sports or gambling on ordinary bets, it is about addiction which has a negative impact on their lives.

There are also people who are addicted to gambling and continue to gamble at work, they do it carefully so that their superiors don't find out, even though gambling at work can definitely cause serious problems for the gambler himself, whether he will be suspension or fired and this is of course It will be a complicated problem if they are fired, where will the money come from? In my opinion, gambling addiction is very bad for the lives of people who don't have more income.

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January 29, 2024, 04:13:33 AM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


There is a saying that everything in excess is not good. This is like saying that a drug addict, an alcoholic person, or someone who's addicted with cigarettes is not bad as long as they don't harm others.
Well, I don't really believe that someone addicted in gambling doesn't have any significant negative effects in his life. There is always a bad effect to that compulsive behaviour, regardless if he has enough money to burn and even if he has a sustainable source of income. How about time for his family? How about his mental health? Or his health in general.
When someone is addicted to something, that person tends to spend more time than anything else and also think about that thing most of the time. So, that means there will always be another thing that needs to be sacrificed because he don't have enough time to attend to. Business, work, or anything where we get our income, as we all know are very time consuming.

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January 29, 2024, 04:32:27 AM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


Even those players who have a lot of money will eventually suffer from gambling addiction too. The thing is that everyone is gambling not because of money, but because of feelings. The brain loves to feel the thrill and anticipation, but over time these sensations become dulled. Therefore, in order to return the same feelings, you need bigger wins, which means you need to play for larger amounts. Therefore, the casino is a dangerous institution - it will be ready to take any amount from you.

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January 29, 2024, 04:34:55 AM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


You see, I think this is where the misunderstanding lies when we talk about gambling addiction. Not all gamblers or successful gamblers are gambling addicts.

Whenever you hear about gambling addiction It means those that are not positively impacted by gambling and because they could not control their habits in gambling, they cannot put a boundary to themselves in the way that they gamble.

When someone is referred to as a gambling addict, it means that person does not have the capacity any longer to be able to control the way he or she gambles even when he is losing in gambling, he cannot stop it. An addiction in gambling is oftentimes associated with psychological issues not to be able to stop gambling. And even when a gambler is losing all his assets, he still wants to gamble.

It is generally a problem in gambling to be addicted to gambling, but that does not mean that you cannot be a successful person until you become an addict. No! Anybody that is able to control the way he/she gambles and time at which he/she engages in gambling, that person will no longer be referred to as a gambling addict. I hope you understand this. Thank you.

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January 29, 2024, 09:17:00 AM
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As far as I know, addiction is a serious illness that must be treated very urgently. There is no such thing as someone being addicted to something and yet that person declaring themselves to be well, that kind of thing is a lie, and an illusion. the person can argue that he is managing to live well even with addiction because he can buy clothes, he hasn't sold anything to anyone and he hasn't committed any crime, but this is only temporary, and when I talk about temporary I mean a short time, after the short Over time, the person addicted to gambling will start to get worse, the tendency of an addicted person who refuses to indulge has always been to continue getting worse and will start to reach the point of committing crimes.

If addiction is not treated, it leads people into the world of crime. Unfortunately, many people ignore this and don't take this point seriously. They think that addiction is a light thing, that they can cure themselves whenever they want, but that's not true. Addiction is a disease that must be treated very urgently. I hope that all people who cannot stay without playing seek help from a doctor and undergo treatment urgently, because the sooner they undergo treatment then the sooner they will be cured and that is very good for them and for all the people who are close to them. from them. I've seen some people who fell into addiction and refused to accept that they were addicted and died as a result.
Addiction is terrible, but labelling all addicts the same? You're wrong there. Addiction does not always lead to criminality. This stereotype is counterproductive. And healthy gambling exists. Control, temperance, and self-awareness. Some recreational gamblers are disciplined. Setting restrictions, they follow them. They gamble, delight, and retreat. Nothing wrong

You're right: addiction needs immediate attention. It's complicated by psychological, social, and biological aspects. You can't just turn it off. It demands empathy, support, and often professional help. Before jumping to conclusions, remember that humans are complicated, diverse beings. Addiction is complicated, therefore one size doesn't fit everyone. Please give individuals the benefit of the doubt

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January 29, 2024, 09:19:58 AM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


You see, I think this is where the misunderstanding lies when we talk about gambling addiction. Not all gamblers or successful gamblers are gambling addicts.

Whenever you hear about gambling addiction It means those that are not positively impacted by gambling and because they could not control their habits in gambling, they cannot put a boundary to themselves in the way that they gamble.

When someone is referred to as a gambling addict, it means that person does not have the capacity any longer to be able to control the way he or she gambles even when he is losing in gambling, he cannot stop it. An addiction in gambling is oftentimes associated with psychological issues not to be able to stop gambling. And even when a gambler is losing all his assets, he still wants to gamble.

It is generally a problem in gambling to be addicted to gambling, but that does not mean that you cannot be a successful person until you become an addict. No! Anybody that is able to control the way he/she gambles and time at which he/she engages in gambling, that person will no longer be referred to as a gambling addict. I hope you understand this. Thank you.
Losing control is the culprit, not gambling. Your claim that not all gamblers become addicts is correct. Dont ignore the harsh fact. Every gambler dances on the precipice. The key? Knowing when to retreat. Setting boundaries and understanding when gambling becomes a necessity are both important.

Promoting healthy gambling requires awareness, education, and resources. It requires understanding addiction psychology, recognizing early indications, and intervening before the fall. Gambling success is assessed by exit, not wins or losses. Lets promote a culture where gaming is a choice, not a requirement.

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January 29, 2024, 09:41:18 AM
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Like you rightly said, there's no positivity in gambling addiction and that's we can't just justify it and advice people to allow themselves get addicted to gambling for any reason of whatsoever.

There is an exception to this. Getting addicted has helped in a way. I know of a man who lost his family in a ghastly motor accident, he became frustrated by the loss and before this time he was a gambler but not addicted. This tragedy made him gamble a lot to cope with this loss and he became addicted since he gambled frequently than usual. He is always gambling and he is beginning to cope. Maybe there are similar cases too which have made gambling a coping mechanism. If gambling serves as a coping mechanism can we still say there is no positivity in gambling? in my thinking, no.

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January 29, 2024, 09:49:39 AM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


           -   What is your definition of a gambling addict? When you say gambling addiction, that means it is no longer a good habit for a gambler, and it also means that it has affected his personality.

Because most of those who are addicted to gambling have already affected their behavior, their family relationships, and so on. Now if you say you're an addict and you don't neglect your family, in my assessment, I can't say you're an addict. Maybe you just think you're an addict and you don't neglect your responsibility to yourself, your family, and others. I think you're just delusional that you're an addict, but you're not. Because gambling addicts are not like that, according to my knowledge.

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