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January 29, 2024, 11:03:43 AM
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More like everything now can be subject to gambling. In our everyday lives, I'm sure there is a conversation between you and your friends about gambling something, betting on which side is going to win or not, which is faster or not. Even without money involved, everything could be considered gambling if you are choosing between two sides: who will win and the other one who loses gets punished or what. So everything now can be subject to gambling, including all sports. Thats why many applications are born because sports betting now a days has become a demand, and they also notice that many people watch or want anything about sports. And it will be their target audience or players, and because of that, they sure will be attracted to bet and waste money because it is also in the nature of humans to have something to stake or to like the feeling of gambling.

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January 29, 2024, 11:57:19 AM
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Sports games and competitions with stakes aren't usually seen as gambling because they depend more on skill and strategy than pure luck. In gambling, chance plays a bigger role but in sports, it's about teamwork and skill.

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January 29, 2024, 12:18:47 PM
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However you tends to define gambling, it would be incomplete if stakes, risks and challenging activities (competitions) are not mentioned.

You can defined it your way but my interest is to understand this>>> Are sports games or related competitive activities which stakes are involved between both sides or teams also gambling?
Remember, there would be a winner to be rewarded and a looser to lost the stakes.

Sports or other activities is not the gambling itself. Your act of placing money as bet for the result against someone or a casino is the gambling part. Even gambling games such as slots, card games and other games that you can see in a casino can’t be considered as gambling if there’s no money involved when you play it.

It’s important to know that the act of placing bet using real money is the gambling and not the games or activities you are betting. You can apply gambling in any activities or games as long as there is a minimum of 2 party involved to place a stake on it.

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January 29, 2024, 12:40:38 PM
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Me: Gambling is a game of chances to winning or loosing where stakes are involved. It is an activity of personal desires to decide if you derives chasing after profits or catching funs.

However you tends to define gambling, it would be incomplete if stakes, risks and challenging activities (competitions) are not mentioned.

You can defined it your way but my interest is to understand this>>> Are sports games or related competitive activities which stakes are involved between both sides or teams also gambling?
Remember, there would be a winner to be rewarded and a looser to lost the stakes.

Gambling is an activity that involves betting money on something. So if there is no money in it then it is not gambling. Gambling always involves two parties where one wins and the other loses, so there is risk and money in every gambling

If we bet money on a match then it is gambling, but if we are football players and take part in the match then it is not gambling even though when we win the match we will get a prize.

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January 29, 2024, 12:44:19 PM
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Are sports games or related competitive activities which stakes are involved between both sides or teams also gambling?
Remember, there would be a winner to be rewarded and a looser to lost the stakes.
just to be clear, you are talking about sports tournaments or other competitions, right? if so, no, it's not, just because something has a "stake", "loser" or a "winner" does not automatically mean that it is gambling. there is a fine line that differentiates competition and gambling, just because they have similarities does not mean they mean the same thing.

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January 29, 2024, 12:51:40 PM
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Me: Gambling is a game of chances to winning or loosing where stakes are involved. It is an activity of personal desires to decide if you derives chasing after profits or catching funs.

However you tends to define gambling, it would be incomplete if stakes, risks and challenging activities (competitions) are not mentioned.

You can defined it your way but my interest is to understand this>>> Are sports games or related competitive activities which stakes are involved between both sides or teams also gambling?
Remember, there would be a winner to be rewarded and a looser to lost the stakes.

Every activity that requires money and stakes are called gambling, no matter what type of game is that, if there's monetary value involved and risking any amount, then that's gambling. Even those sports betting activity, many people didn't recognize that as a gambling but for me, it is. In my own opinion,  no matter which angle you look at it, you still spent money and took out money to bet. Even if we say that it's just a typical sports game, since you've used money and you're competing with the bet of the opposite group, isn't that considered gambling?



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January 29, 2024, 01:26:14 PM
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 Are sports games or related competitive activities which stakes are involved between both sides or teams also gambling?
Remember, there would be a winner to be rewarded and a looser to lost the stakes.


There is a difference between the two, gambling is pure luck, while in sports there is a level of skills and competitiveness teams are competing for the honor of their country, organization, or themselves, while in gambling you'll only represent yourself.
You can stake money in sports but the teams are vying more on honor and prestige, in gambling Honor and prestige do not exist, you are in front of the gambling table or dashboard if it's online, you're vying for your entertainment.
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January 29, 2024, 01:39:00 PM
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If there is no money involved, it is not gambling. If there is money involved, it is called gambling.
You know that opinion on this differs right?

Not every one agrees that money has to be involved before it is called gambling.

This is one topic I started last year that really showed that opinions on what gambling is and is not really differs from person to person.
Without money, does it still qualify as gambling?

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My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
If you did not use your own personal money or other people involved, did not use their money...it is a reward.

As long as you use your own money to stake on the game and you are expecting a big profit, or there is the risk that you can lose the money in which you use to stake,it is called gambling. Because there will be high expectations, and if you lose your money, you can feel bad, to the extend that you want to stake again to see if you can win back that money.

If you don't stake anything, you wouldn't care that much as the thrill wouldn't be there.

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January 29, 2024, 01:54:11 PM
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Not really, because there is a slight difference between the two, in my opinion, because traditional gambling does not usually apply to sporting events or competitive activities involving stakes between competing teams. Sports competitions, for instance, are focused more on athletic ability, skills, and plans than on luck. That being said, when we talk about gambling, we usually mean that it involves speculating with money or valuables in order to predict a result that is mostly based on chance.
After giving it some serious thought, I believe that even though sports betting is a type of gambling, playing sports is not in and of itself a gambling activity. I am aware that sports betting involves making predictions about how a game will turn out and then placing a bet on it. We must therefore make a distinction between the act of placing a wager on the result of a sporting event and the actual sporting activity. Because there is a component of chance and risk involved in making predictions, I think that is why some people believe that the latter fits under the gambling category.

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Traditional gambling involves luck, skill, and definitely betting. But esports throws a curveball. Sure, there's luck in some games, but meistens, it's all about mad skills and hours of practice. And while spectators might bet on who wins, the players themselves aren't putting down their own cash – they're fighting for a set prize.

So, is it gambling or competition? Maybe it's both, depending on the game, the players' skills, and if someone's betting on the sidelines. It's a spectrum, like spicy food – some games are pure skill like chess, while others might have a sprinkle of chance like racing games. Esports might be somewhere in the middle, depending on the flavor.

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January 29, 2024, 02:36:15 PM
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Have we gone past the point where definitions mean anything now? Grin
Soon by this logic, being emotionally invested in a team you like will be gambling.

Maybe some orthodox priest or some Imam thinks this way too. That liking a team too much and perhaps praising them more than you do god, is akin to being a sin and should be avoided.
But come on, we're right here discussing gambling. I though we'd be beyond that by this point.
It's not worth it to try to over-analyze everything and generalize over these matters. Gambling is when some form of currency is involved and risked.
Just there being stakes between two teams doesn't make it gambling. Because by this logic every sports match is gambling in its own rite.

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Me: Gambling is a game of chances to winning or loosing where stakes are involved. It is an activity of personal desires to decide if you derives chasing after profits or catching funs.

However you tends to define gambling, it would be incomplete if stakes, risks and challenging activities (competitions) are not mentioned.

You can defined it your way but my interest is to understand this>>> Are sports games or related competitive activities which stakes are involved between both sides or teams also gambling?
Remember, there would be a winner to be rewarded and a looser to lost the stakes.

This depends on the legislation of a particular country. For example, in my country for some time (short) poker was recognized as a sport, but then it was reclassified as gambling. I don’t know whether this is fair or not (there are arguments both for and against), but the fact remains - it all depends on the legislation. Even in computer games, loot boxes in some countries are simply part of the game mechanics, and in some countries gambling.

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Me: Gambling is a game of chances to winning or loosing where stakes are involved. It is an activity of personal desires to decide if you derives chasing after profits or catching funs.

However you tends to define gambling, it would be incomplete if stakes, risks and challenging activities (competitions) are not mentioned.

You can defined it your way but my interest is to understand this>>> Are sports games or related competitive activities which stakes are involved between both sides or teams also gambling?
Remember, there would be a winner to be rewarded and a looser to lost the stakes.
If a stake is involved and it's at a casino then you don't need any further clearity to understand that you are in for gambling already, emphasis on the casino is because the only activities that goes on in such a place is only but gambling so any thing done inside the casino that will involve you staking it's nothing away from gambling.

Outside the casino it could be just a competition just like league games where there's a price at stake to be won such cannot be seen as gambling but then if two persons have predict the outcome of an even and stake an amount in that regards stating that whosoever the out come favours goes home with the whole money then such can be regarded as gambling. Gambling must have a characteristic of two persons putting something at stake and give the whole price to the winner meanwhile competition may not necessarily involve both parties putting anything at stake , a sponsor can put up a price and maybe participants pay a fee to join in on the competition.

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January 29, 2024, 02:48:32 PM
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Even if there is no money involved but something valuable is at stake based on the result of certain even can be called as betting so yeah it is gambling when two team stake their money for their desired outcome.

You can bring gambling anywhere for any activity with just a small amount at stake and it can be a friendly bet, the involvement of money for the outcome will elevate the thrill of waiting that we call adrenaline and that is what the people are urging which can be enjoyed.

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January 29, 2024, 02:57:21 PM
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Gambling is not always related to casinos and is not always related to sports betting, because every activity that has a bet in it, or a certain amount of money is wagered in it, then that activity can be called gambling and the person placing the bet can already be called a gambler. And betting or gambling is very easy to package in any form, including hobbies that we enjoy.

However, so that your gambling or betting activities are more effective, it would be better if you only bet in physical casinos or on online gambling platforms. Because by playing gambling at a physical casino or online casino, this can help you manage your time and a clear gambling budget. However, to prevent losses and other negative impacts, it is quite important for us to always set and enforce deposit limits, understand the risks involved in gambling, and maintain a responsible attitude towards gambling. In essence, we must be able to maintain gambling activities as a form of entertainment, which must be managed wisely.

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January 29, 2024, 03:02:42 PM
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Me: Gambling is a game of chances to winning or loosing where stakes are involved. It is an activity of personal desires to decide if you derives chasing after profits or catching funs.

However you tends to define gambling, it would be incomplete if stakes, risks and challenging activities (competitions) are not mentioned.

You can defined it your way but my interest is to understand this>>> Are sports games or related competitive activities which stakes are involved between both sides or teams also gambling?
Remember, there would be a winner to be rewarded and a looser to lost the stakes.

This could end up in quite a lot of semantics. Basically, your definition is right, but I wonder whether it is redundant even a couple of times. Isn't as soon as we talk about stakes the idea involved that whatever we put in the middle is also at risk? Would it otherwise be called "stakes"?

So the shortest version could be "gambling is when stakes are involved, i.e. when something is at stake depending on certain outcomes".

Challenging activities or competitions, well rolling the dice isn't challenging in a certain sense, depending on what you exactly mean. But putting something at stake should be enough of a definition although it should be included that gambling involves randomness of the outcome.
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January 29, 2024, 03:06:07 PM
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Remember, there would be a winner to be rewarded and a looser to lost the stakes.

It is possible to answer yes to the question you asked just with the sentence you stated here. If a bet is made on possible possibilities and as a result one side loses money while the other side wins money, this is definitely a gamble. For example, in a football match there is a possibility that one of the two teams will win the match and the possibility that the match will end in a draw. Betting money on any of these possibilities and losing or winning multiples of that money depending on the outcome is strictly gambling. To summarize, anything that involves making money through possible possibilities can be considered gambling because the goal is to make money through an unclear possibility or it is possible to lose all the money staked for that possibility.
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January 29, 2024, 03:13:52 PM
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Are sports games or related competitive activities which stakes are involved between both sides or teams also gambling?
As the others have mentioned already. It should still count as gambling even if we're referring to other kinds of stakes aside from money since there are people and betting shops who would take those alternative bets as long as the stake holds some monetary value.

I remember we had a few threads about this specific situation and there was a case about a gambler who decided to bet his wife on the line.

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January 29, 2024, 03:15:09 PM
 #39

I don't understand what's exactly in @OP's head to ask this kind question.

Are you want to not be called as a gambler by other people, so you're trying to find a way to make sure what you're doing isn't gambling?

@OP you're a gambler, everyone is gambler, they're risking their time (valuable isn't?) in order to get what they want e.g. getting certified, enter to university, get acceptance to work etc.

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January 29, 2024, 03:46:18 PM
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Are sports competitions with stakes gambling? There is a difference in the base of the action. Bets are mostly based on luck, but skill can help. Sports are mostly about skill. Bets make gambling more fun, but do they change what it is? Not really. It's still about skill, working together, and plan in sports

To support responsible gambling, it's important to tell the difference between sports betting for fun and the risks. understanding the odds, understanding your limits, and betting for fun instead of relying on it are all parts of responsible gambling. The fun is in taking part, not in winning. Stop blurring the lines between activities and see how they all add something different to our lives

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