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April 20, 2023, 07:17:02 PM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

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April 20, 2023, 07:21:48 PM
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It's showing "Access denied".
Is it a country-specific website? If yes, do you know which ones are restricted?
However, yes I'd call it gambling because you're predicting something and not getting the money directly, I mean for doing nothing. Even though you're not putting your own money on it, you're getting a reward for staking your 0 money bet through your prediction and you win if what you predicted comes out to be true.
I'd compare it with the free spins that we get on websites, or the no-deposit bonuses with which we can play some specific games and even keep as well as cashout our winnings (some websites need just 1x wagering to withdraw). So it's just the same, you're gambling but without including your money there.

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April 20, 2023, 07:21:53 PM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I think yes as you are predicting the future and predicting the future it is called gambling because no one can predict the future correctly always,sometimes we see and choose the favorite team to win in a sport event but most of the time everybody is on a losing run.

This can also increase your desire to start real gambling with real money once you get used to it so even if it is not called gambling in the beginning,it has super high chances leading you to gambling so I would put this in the gambling category.

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April 20, 2023, 07:23:54 PM
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In my opinion.

Everything you do, activity and other think on the casino are gambling. You're not gambling now, but there has some chance you are gonna to gambling soon in the future. The temptation are high, If you are stay on gambling sector.

So, I call it gambling. It's promotion, you get free money soon you're losing then are gonna triggered you to deposit.

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April 20, 2023, 07:33:23 PM
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As long as there would be risk and as long you would lose or gain something in return, that would be gambling. What makes gambling ,"gambling" is the lsck of assurance with the outcome either you lose or win. To some people, gambling would be only categorized once there's money involved but technically, money is just the usual mode of payment and not the bottomline, it is rather the thing that would be an exchange of your bet. It could be in form of favor, other object and such as long as there would be a player to lose something while the other one is gaining or celebrating. In platforms ofcourse currencies would take place as long ws risk is there, with profit in return.

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My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
Gambling means to take risky action or to use something valuable or money to bet. If you play game for free to win something without anything used that can lead to loss, you are not risking anything, which just means that it is not gambling. But it can be a strategy you can be lured with by a gambling site for you to join the gambling site and begin to gamble.

It's showing "Access denied".
Is it a country-specific website? If yes, do you know which ones are restricted?
What I know is that DSTV is located in South Africa and it provides services to countries in Africa.

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It's showing "Access denied".
Is it a country-specific website? If yes, do you know which ones are restricted?
Sorry it is a country specific website as I just discovered.
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Superpicks is an exciting product of the giant broadcasting company SuperSport and the Nigeria betting company Betking, whereby you can make a prediction on football matches and win amazing prizes. SuperSport is available in several African countries but SuperPicks is only available in Nigeria.
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Maybe if it turns out successful for the companies involved, they may consider extending the service to other countries, and some other gambling companies in your country may adopt it.

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If you are not wagering any money or reputation, then you are not gambling IMO. There has to be something on the line. What you are trying to send players to is a prediction game. They might be fun to participate in but should not be considered "gambling".

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April 20, 2023, 07:42:21 PM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
It may be free at first but for sure you will be tempted to bet more as this site allows you to earn at first, and that is still gambling.
This is a gambling site anyway so whatever their strategy to attract gamblers, once you visit the site and created an account with them, you are expected to gamble with them and you cannot deny the fact that you are playing with the site, if you are being careless worse case might happen to your money.
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It's showing "Access denied".
Is it a country-specific website? If yes, do you know which ones are restricted?
However, yes I'd call it gambling because you're predicting something and not getting the money directly, I mean for doing nothing. Even though you're not putting your own money on it, you're getting a reward for staking your 0 money bet through your prediction and you win if what you predicted comes out to be true.
I'd compare it with the free spins that we get on websites, or the no-deposit bonuses with which we can play some specific games and even keep as well as cashout our winnings (some websites need just 1x wagering to withdraw). So it's just the same, you're gambling but without including your money there.


It's a Nigerian site. Here's what you can see when you get access:
"Correctly predict the score of 6 soccer matches to win up to N100 million!"

So, you can win $200 in Nigerian currency if you pick 6 scores in a row, which is pretty hard. Anyway, if they're for real, people might want to play. They aren't losing anything by doing it.

I feel like playing for free isn't gambling. The way I understand gambling is you're risking something to potentially win more. With no risk there's no gambling.
If you play mortal kombat with your friends and the person who beats all the others gets free beers paid by the losers, it's not really gambling. It's more like a good idea for a party Cheesy

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April 20, 2023, 07:49:51 PM
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It may be free at first but for sure you will be tempted to bet more as this site allows you to earn at first, and that is still gambling.
This is a gambling site anyway so whatever their strategy to attract gamblers, once you visit the site and created an account with them, you are expected to gamble with them and you cannot deny the fact that you are playing with the site, if you are being careless worse case might happen to your money.
If it is a gambling site, that does not mean that free predictions are gambling. If you do not use money or anything to gamble, it is not gambling. That is just it. Although I understand what you are saying, that it is a gambling site, that some people will later gamble on the site. Yes you are right, but the free offer is not gambling, people gamble with something like money or property.

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April 20, 2023, 07:53:34 PM
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Gambling involves money, so without this I don’t think its gambling.
Just make sure not to bet any with money or else you’re doing gambling and you have to be more responsible on that and avoid being greedy. There are site who have this options, and this is also their way to attract gamblers, this is actually where I started, from the free wager until I deposited my first capital.
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I guess that gambling has many definitions, and one of them is this one:

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Take risky action in the hope of a desired result.

Crossing a street can be described as a risky action, and the result would be getting to another side, some didn't make it... sad truth. We gamble from a young age, and we are not even aware that we are thrown into this game off chances and odds. If we risk something (anything) in the hope of a desired result we are gambling... doesn't matter do we risk our bodies or souls, we risk something to gain something more, and that is gambling. As I wrote many times...

If you are not risking anything, then you are not gambling! Simple as that... you can't gain/lose anything, you are just killing the time with something you like, and that is far away from gambling, and those feelings that gambling (risking something to get something else or more) can produce!

Good luck all gamblers! Smiley

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April 20, 2023, 08:05:38 PM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

For me, I wouldn't even call it or think of it as gambling because it is only when money is staked and the chance of losing it or winning more money is involved, that it can or should be called gambling.
It is just a prediction game after all, the wrong answers are sure to not lose anything except to not win. I believe one can also try as much times as they want to unless if there's a limited try.
Anyone who goes into gambling after trying out this prediction game, simply wanted to gamble all the while.

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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?
if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com
My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

OP from what I understood from you post here is this; you predicted a game and it happens that the game was a success and you were paid for it, I assume that to be a work and pay exercise where your expertise was brought into function and that I really think I not gambling as you were paid for your expertise which you Serviced them with compared to when you use your own money to gamble, you bet in the sense that you either win or you loose your bet that is what I can tell you is gambling.

So therefore, gambling involves you placing a bet with something tangible in course of gaming and without anything in your name for gaming to win o see that as expertise brought in play so that is not gambling.

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April 20, 2023, 08:20:44 PM
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My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

To answer the question we need to identify the factors that make an action a gambling. Gambling (also known as betting or gaming) is the wagering of something of value ("the stakes") on a random event with the intent of winning something else of value, where instances of strategy are discounted.[1]
Wikipedia stated that gambling needs 3 elements to be present which are

consideration (amount wagered)
risk
and prize.

In the given situation of @OP where there is no consideration (amount wagered) and risk involved only prize,  the action won't be considered a gambling.




[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling
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April 20, 2023, 08:31:54 PM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
Yes, it is all gambling since you have to make predictions whatever means you are using to place the bets does not matter, some gambling sites still give free bets and game seasons if you win you are free to withdraw your money.

Just lack lottery also, some lottery tickets are free and so many players have benefitted from them all, I know someone who won an American lottery that gave his family a permanent stay in the United States, so this person can still be referred to as a gambler.
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April 20, 2023, 08:37:27 PM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

Their slogan is Play for free. Win for real!
This cannot be considered gambling as there is nothing at stake. I’m very skeptical of freebies, I believe there is a gambit somewhere in all of this. The website is relatively new and hasn’t got much of a reputation compared to other gambling sites in Nigeria, I suspect this is their own way of promoting their casino and trying to get people to create an account.

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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
could be called a giveaway or something similar to that? I mean it's basically the same thing as some of the gambling sites/sportsbooks do on games and rounds where you have a chance of winning money or free bets just by predicting something without spending any money.

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April 20, 2023, 08:48:54 PM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I think yes as you are predicting the future and predicting the future it is called gambling because no one can predict the future correctly always,sometimes we see and choose the favorite team to win in a sport event but most of the time everybody is on a losing run.

This can also increase your desire to start real gambling with real money once you get used to it so even if it is not called gambling in the beginning,it has super high chances leading you to gambling so I would put this in the gambling category.
This is kinda funny because how would you say that "you predicting the  future and predicting the future is called gambling", what if I predict that there is going to be rain tonight and the rain eventually falls which means I have predicted the future but does actually mean that I have gamble ? Answer=NO, because gambling has to be involved with taking of risk and predicting an unknown outcome with a possible result of you losing something that is involved which is the risk so even you predicting games with no risk involved is actually not gambling.

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