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February 15, 2024, 08:05:25 AM
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Living with a gambling addict can be frustrating however a lot of persons actually make the mistake of being hard on them and trying to isolate themselves from them. However it isn't supposed to be so. Of course addiction is a bad thing but love and compassion overtime helps gambling addicts get over their addictions.

It can also be very challenging to try to draw an addict close to yourself but trust me it is the best thing to do as pushing them away makes them feel more lonely and having reasons to gamble more often than normal which not good for their wellbeing.
Of course all cases are different, but i`m sure that love and compassion are the worst thing we can give the gambling addict in the start. First of all he must understand that he made his life awful himself and decide to change his life himself. Only after it we can give him some love. But we must be careful with love - it can destroy all the results.

Being harsh to a gambling addict will only inflict pain on both the loved ones and the addict. Staying caring and lovely with the addicted person helps to bring back the thoughts of the gambler to feel as though human and try to interact politely with people around him. I understand that we are not the cause of the addicted person's problem. But it's fine to say that gambling addiction takes a long time to heal and not everyone would be able to get hold of being kind for that long without losing it. Whatever method a person, loved one, or friend, wants to apply on his addicted friend, being harsh should be a part of it. They are only humans like us, and when they get better the person can be aggressive in the sense that when he was down bad for help, nobody, not even his close friends and family stood there for him. Instead, they applied a harsh method on him. Those attitudes will register on his brain. And he'll never suffer addiction forever. So, how good you treat them matters, because they'll remember it when their mental health gets better.

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February 16, 2024, 06:41:10 AM
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I think it would depend on the person and their situation. But mostly, being gentle is much better and works better, but if needed, being firm is necessary. But do remember to show share, love, and support and encourage them to seek help when they are ready.
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February 16, 2024, 06:54:28 AM
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What gambling addicts need is a personal approach that is relaxed and does not corner them. Because if you force a gambling addict to stop gambling in a harsh way, they will fight you and might leave the house. So a personal approach is probably the best way to convince gambling addicts to stop gambling. But if that method doesn't work, maybe the second method can be used.

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February 16, 2024, 07:25:19 AM
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As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

I'd go with the soft and gentle approach, make him see reasons why he should quit gambling. Sometimes these addicts know that what they're doing is wrong but the addiction has taken control over them in such a way that they find themselves doing what they don't want to do. So as I am talking to him gently, I'd also make appointment with a gambling therapist, cover the expenses and be with him at every step of his recovery.
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February 16, 2024, 07:38:38 AM
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Some people don't know how to realize their fault, this is what makes many believe that whatever they are doing is always right, if such people turn into a gambling addict it will be difficult to make them see that they are already a gambling addict.

Some people do need the iron hand to wake up their senses, since they are family member you must know who they are, using harsh ways depends on who they are, making them develop the feeling of accepting that they are addicted and also the need to stop is the best solution.

Use harshes or softness, it depends on the person, but many gamblers are addicted and they don't just accept that they are addicted, make them see reasons and they will start fighting the addiction even when you are not there, a gambler is the solution to his own addiction.

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February 16, 2024, 07:56:12 AM
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Whether they would be absorbing or would really be hearing out those advises or not and it would really be that something that will really be that depending
on the person that had been that affected by gambling addiction on which we know that it would really be that always important that you should really be
that be a little gentle with such approach on telling this and telling that. Make them realize that the things that they've been doing were wrong and its not really something recommended. Addicted
people wont really be that easily believe on someones words even if we do say that someone is really that part of the family but well we wont really be able to know unless we do try.
If they are people who are addicted then it will be difficult, they will never be able to accept or listen to the advice we give even in various ways.
A gambling addict will be able to always do what they want, even this is behavior or attitude that is truly beyond anyone imagination.
Don't they just make mistakes and continuously repeat them without stopping, there is only one thing that can make them change, namely their own awareness and thoughts to be better and improve all the mistakes that previously often occurred.
Maybe we can kindly and attentively provide advice, guidance and direction to them, but if that doesn't happen, the feeling that the gambler himself wants to change for the better will also be in vain.
Key is not in us but in those who experience all this, they are the ones who determine what will happen in the future and they themselves can determine what is good or not.
We are just being good people who intercede to help as best we can, whether they succeed or not is their own choice.

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February 16, 2024, 08:32:53 AM
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Of course all cases are different, but i`m sure that love and compassion are the worst thing we can give the gambling addict in the start. First of all he must understand that he made his life awful himself and decide to change his life himself. Only after it we can give him some love. But we must be careful with love - it can destroy all the results.

Being harsh to a gambling addict will only inflict pain on both the loved ones and the addict. Staying caring and lovely with the addicted person helps to bring back the thoughts of the gambler to feel as though human and try to interact politely with people around him. I understand that we are not the cause of the addicted person's problem. But it's fine to say that gambling addiction takes a long time to heal and not everyone would be able to get hold of being kind for that long without losing it. Whatever method a person, loved one, or friend, wants to apply on his addicted friend, being harsh should be a part of it. They are only humans like us, and when they get better the person can be aggressive in the sense that when he was down bad for help, nobody, not even his close friends and family stood there for him. Instead, they applied a harsh method on him. Those attitudes will register on his brain. And he'll never suffer addiction forever. So, how good you treat them matters, because they'll remember it when their mental health gets better.
I don`t sure that it can help. I would prefer to get result. And if the result would be - stop gambling, i don`t cares about his mental health. He change his life, it anyway hurts, but without addiction he has lots of opportunities to get a success and be happy. He`ll get lots of positive from the people around him and it would be enough to heal his mental health.

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February 16, 2024, 08:40:29 AM
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It's different when we talk to our family members or loved ones properly because we are the family and bloodline where no one else will help us but we are family, right? Correctly reminding a gambling addict means showing genuine concern for him.

And above all, don't get tired of reminding him about the things he is passionate about that have caused bad things in his personality that have affected not only himself but also those close to him.


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February 16, 2024, 12:09:56 PM
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It's different when we talk to our family members or loved ones properly because we are the family and bloodline where no one else will help us but we are family, right? Correctly reminding a gambling addict means showing genuine concern for him.

And above all, don't get tired of reminding him about the things he is passionate about that have caused bad things in his personality that have affected not only himself but also those close to him.
If the gambling addict is a member of our family, we must be able to show that we sincerely want to help him get out of his gambling addiction so that they can see that other family members still care about him and will want to help him. The gambling addict will not feel that he is alone in going through everything because other family members always provide support and will even accompany him in his healing process.

By having sincere feelings for the gambling addict, he will begin to open up to his family members and ask them for help in solving his problem. The addict can still cure his gambling addiction with the help and support of other family members.

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February 16, 2024, 03:33:15 PM
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Some people don't know how to realize their fault, this is what makes many believe that whatever they are doing is always right, if such people turn into a gambling addict it will be difficult to make them see that they are already a gambling addict.

Some people do need the iron hand to wake up their senses, since they are family member you must know who they are, using harsh ways depends on who they are, making them develop the feeling of accepting that they are addicted and also the need to stop is the best solution.

Use harshes or softness, it depends on the person, but many gamblers are addicted and they don't just accept that they are addicted, make them see reasons and they will start fighting the addiction even when you are not there, a gambler is the solution to his own addiction.
Straight talk? Many find it difficult to admit blame, especially with gambling addiction. Though harsh, others don't regard their acts as bad. Their loop is perilous. You know family best. Yes, sometimes an iron hand is needed. The key is understanding them, not just their hardness or gentleness

The issue is addiction. Show them why it's detrimental, not just tell them they're wrong. Quite delicate, this dance. Use "I" statements, not claims. "You're addicted" is "I'm concerned about how much you gamble." See the difference? Being aware of the need for change. Remember: healing begins with acceptance. Fighting the problem requires seeing it. Indeed, it's hard. But isn't family for that? To fight severe conflicts together?

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February 16, 2024, 05:07:05 PM
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Living with a gambling addict can be frustrating however a lot of persons actually make the mistake of being hard on them and trying to isolate themselves from them. However it isn't supposed to be so. Of course addiction is a bad thing but love and compassion overtime helps gambling addicts get over their addictions.

It can also be very challenging to try to draw an addict close to yourself but trust me it is the best thing to do as pushing them away makes them feel more lonely and having reasons to gamble more often than normal which not good for their wellbeing.
Of course all cases are different, but i`m sure that love and compassion are the worst thing we can give the gambling addict in the start. First of all he must understand that he made his life awful himself and decide to change his life himself. Only after it we can give him some love. But we must be careful with love - it can destroy all the results.

Being harsh to a gambling addict will only inflict pain on both the loved ones and the addict. Staying caring and lovely with the addicted person helps to bring back the thoughts of the gambler to feel as though human and try to interact politely with people around him. I understand that we are not the cause of the addicted person's problem. But it's fine to say that gambling addiction takes a long time to heal and not everyone would be able to get hold of being kind for that long without losing it. Whatever method a person, loved one, or friend, wants to apply on his addicted friend, being harsh should be a part of it. They are only humans like us, and when they get better the person can be aggressive in the sense that when he was down bad for help, nobody, not even his close friends and family stood there for him. Instead, they applied a harsh method on him. Those attitudes will register on his brain. And he'll never suffer addiction forever. So, how good you treat them matters, because they'll remember it when their mental health gets better.
Punishing a gambler is ineffective. Like you, I value compassion and understanding. Both the addict and their support network are on a journey. Keep in mind the narrow line between support and enabling. I think balance is key. Being kind doesnt imply ignoring bad behavior. Be there, support without judgment, and encourage accountability.

I understand how difficult it is to stay compassionate. Frustration and overwhelm are normal. But thats when support really matters, I say. Set boundaries to safeguard the addict and their family. Supporting pleasurable gambling within limitations emphasizes addiction's complexity. Not vilifying gambling, but encouraging responsible fun. Our treatment of the needy shows our humanity. Every positive connection gives hope in recovery, which is a marathon.

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February 16, 2024, 06:12:23 PM
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It may seem like there are a lot of very easy ways to go about helping gambling addicts but the truth is it is not as easy as we sometimes see it especially in cases where the addict in question is too much of a core one. However I believe the best way to go about it is to show them love and compassion. Like I said earlier the reason why pulling an addict out of addiction using compassion is difficult is because you have to be kind to them irrespective of the emotional stress and pain they have put you through as a family member and definitely as humana , sharing love when we are hurting is something that I would classify as Divine.
Addicts cause alot of emotional hurt to family members and the biggest problem is they most times don't realize it until it is far too late.

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according to the character of the gambling addict, if he is a member of your family of course you already understand his character so you know better which effective way to do it, but in my opinion it is better to use the gentle method first but if you can't use the hard method

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according to the character of the gambling addict, if he is a member of your family of course you already understand his character so you know better which effective way to do it, but in my opinion it is better to use the gentle method first but if you can't use the hard method
If the addicted ones would really be just that inside the family then of course you do really know about its behavior or simply its character on which you would be able to assess whether you would really be taking that harsh approach or would really be sticking into that gentle one but just like been said that it would really be always best that you should really be starting with the gentle one on which you could really be able to make yourself that at least make that someone cant be able to feel that they are really that been choked out or something that been scolded because we know that once an addicted person would be having those kind of impressions then situations might come worst because they might be ending up on playing up more and something that cant be stopped. If things cant be fight off with advises then this is where professional
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I am also a gambler, only I am not a gambling addict. And as a gambler, it is quite difficult to make someone aware of an addiction, even if the addict is our relative. because we are in the same position as a gambler, what I imagined when I tried to make him aware of his bad behavior, what would happen would be that the addict would continue to distort the facts and truths that I conveyed. So it seems like it would be better if the person who made him aware was someone who had never been involved in gambling, someone he really cared about or someone he really respected. because when someone he loves gives advice, he will voluntarily accept the advice. And when the advice is given by someone he really respects, he will inevitably accept the advice. For the first time, advice must be conveyed with gentle words, but when gentle words still cannot make him come to his senses, then using harsh words becomes the second option.

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February 17, 2024, 02:15:26 AM
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If someone who is addicted is someone in my family, at most I just reprimand him in a normal tone, not harshly, because after all, I don't dare to be rude, even though I also care about him, being rude actually makes the addict more challenged to continue gambling, whereas reprimanding and advising him with Being gentle can make addicts think realistically over time and can change their lives slowly, but this depends on the gambler's own thoughts. If they have the intention to stop and ask for help from their family, I think this can be handled quickly because as a family they will definitely be very supportive of anything. the best for fellow family members.

But if the addict has become rude and arrogant maybe I will also be rude in reminding him, even if it is family, because sometimes addiction can lead to violence, whether towards family or friends, if they experience continuous defeat, they are not easily advised in a gentle way because the addiction has taken over the brain they.

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February 17, 2024, 04:47:00 AM
 #197

according to the character of the gambling addict, if he is a member of your family of course you already understand his character so you know better which effective way to do it, but in my opinion it is better to use the gentle method first but if you can't use the hard method
If the addicted ones would really be just that inside the family then of course you do really know about its behavior or simply its character on which you would be able to assess whether you would really be taking that harsh approach or would really be sticking into that gentle one but just like been said that it would really be always best that you should really be starting with the gentle one on which you could really be able to make yourself that at least make that someone cant be able to feel that they are really that been choked out or something that been scolded because we know that once an addicted person would be having those kind of impressions then situations might come worst because they might be ending up on playing up more and something that cant be stopped. If things cant be fight off with advises then this is where professional
seek of help would really be that recommended.

Addicted person most of the time has been uncontrollable, if that person is engage in gambling that deep the need of professional is the only hope, there are treatment and approaches that those professional can provide to lessen and probably to make it happen to stop the addiction, not hard and most of the time expensive as there are activities and diets that needed to established to prevent the brain to think about gambling.

Though, all will depends from how the person's self-will and how he will adopt, his willingness is the key factor to success.

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February 17, 2024, 07:46:39 AM
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What gambling addicts need is a personal approach that is relaxed and does not corner them. Because if you force a gambling addict to stop gambling in a harsh way, they will fight you and might leave the house. So a personal approach is probably the best way to convince gambling addicts to stop gambling. But if that method doesn't work, maybe the second method can be used.

You're correct and also taking the addicted individual to see a profession that's incharge of helping addicts overcome their problem will be good. Fighting or being harsh to a gambling addict wouldn't help in any way as they'll be defensive instead of listening to what you're telling them. Gambling addict don't see it like they're doing anything wrong therefore when you talk with them you have to be very friendly. Family members that they love can also help in this situation to talk to them.

Also don't just talk and leave the gambling addict to figure out things by himself, many individuals are addicted due to them not having a good source of income that they can use for feeding therefore if you can provide a good source of income that they can use to be getting money to take care of their needs, it'll help in making them to stop gambling or reduce the amount of money and time they use for gamble.

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February 17, 2024, 09:53:02 AM
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Living with a gambling addict can be frustrating however a lot of persons actually make the mistake of being hard on them and trying to isolate themselves from them. However it isn't supposed to be so. Of course addiction is a bad thing but love and compassion overtime helps gambling addicts get over their addictions.

It can also be very challenging to try to draw an addict close to yourself but trust me it is the best thing to do as pushing them away makes them feel more lonely and having reasons to gamble more often than normal which not good for their wellbeing.
Of course all cases are different, but i`m sure that love and compassion are the worst thing we can give the gambling addict in the start. First of all he must understand that he made his life awful himself and decide to change his life himself. Only after it we can give him some love. But we must be careful with love - it can destroy all the results.

Being harsh to a gambling addict will only inflict pain on both the loved ones and the addict. Staying caring and lovely with the addicted person helps to bring back the thoughts of the gambler to feel as though human and try to interact politely with people around him. I understand that we are not the cause of the addicted person's problem. But it's fine to say that gambling addiction takes a long time to heal and not everyone would be able to get hold of being kind for that long without losing it. Whatever method a person, loved one, or friend, wants to apply on his addicted friend, being harsh should be a part of it. They are only humans like us, and when they get better the person can be aggressive in the sense that when he was down bad for help, nobody, not even his close friends and family stood there for him. Instead, they applied a harsh method on him. Those attitudes will register on his brain. And he'll never suffer addiction forever. So, how good you treat them matters, because they'll remember it when their mental health gets better.
Punishing a gambler is ineffective. Like you, I value compassion and understanding. Both the addict and their support network are on a journey. Keep in mind the narrow line between support and enabling. I think balance is key. Being kind doesnt imply ignoring bad behavior. Be there, support without judgment, and encourage accountability.

I understand how difficult it is to stay compassionate. Frustration and overwhelm are normal. But thats when support really matters, I say. Set boundaries to safeguard the addict and their family. Supporting pleasurable gambling within limitations emphasizes addiction's complexity. Not vilifying gambling, but encouraging responsible fun. Our treatment of the needy shows our humanity. Every positive connection gives hope in recovery, which is a marathon.
Do you think that giving money and talking with gambling addict will be more useful? If someone ill we call doctor and the treatment mostly at least unpleasant but we have to suffer a bit to get result and become healthy. Why do think that such way is ineffective? The same decision for the same problems.

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February 17, 2024, 10:05:46 AM
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Do you think that giving money and talking with gambling addict will be more useful? If someone ill we call doctor and the treatment mostly at least unpleasant but we have to suffer a bit to get result and become healthy. Why do think that such way is ineffective? The same decision for the same problems.

Going hard on a gambling addict will only make things worse. This is where a whole lot of people get it wrong. If you isolate yourself from an addict that loves you they will be hurt more and sometimes become idle which can even make them become more inclined in wrong gambling activities and practices. Yes it is easier to abandon them than help them but if we really love someone that is caught up in addiction we will definitely find a way to help them out of it.
And of course helping them out by talking to them and Expressing the hurt they cause you is difficult but it is worth helping them also out of an Addiction.

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