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Title: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Outhue on January 30, 2024, 10:20:31 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: michellee on January 30, 2024, 10:31:18 AM
I prefer number one because he is part of the family. It is not appropriate for us to be rude to them even though they are addicted to gambling. We can talk to them and not leave out that side of the family. Say that we care about those who are addicted to gambling and want to help them get out of their gambling addiction.

It does take time but it's worth keeping trying. If you are rude to them, it may become an argument that never ends. There is a possibility that the gambling addict will run away from home and look for another place to live. He will feel that no one cares about him so he feels he should leave his house.

There is nothing wrong with being gentle and showing love to them. They are part of our family and we must help them by making them aware of the impact of gambling on them. We can show them evidence that their lives are a mess so they can realize it. By being willing to realize their mistakes, maybe there will be other things that make them want to undergo treatment for their gambling addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Oshosondy on January 30, 2024, 10:34:29 AM
I can not be harsh because someone is a gambler. But I will first be somehow harsh so that the person can know how serious I am. But I will have no alternative way than to understand him and let him know how addiction will not help him. Gambling should just be for fun. If you are gambling and you are not having the fun but you are having losses, not able to manage your money, then that person should stop gambling.

Like I always said, there are many life examples about how gambling destroyed some people's lives, also about people that commit suicide because they gamble and lose, they kill themselves. All these should be enough as an advice to let him know that gambling is not a way to look for money.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Hispo on January 30, 2024, 10:48:52 AM
I believe I would incline myself to go for the first option and try to show kindness and love for that family member who is struggling with addiction. Though, I agree going this path alone will lead to that person not seeing major consequences to their actions, so there is a good chance they will fall into gambling addiction again. Because of it, I would combine the loving and kind method with actual help from a professional psycologist who has treated people addicted to gambling before and can provide a good track record of recovery cases to us as family.

One needs to keep in mind that someone who is into gambling is likely to also been suffering other emotional problems, like depression, anxiety and self-loath. Going to harsh in someone in this state of mind could prompt them to harm themselves in private or to worsen their gambling addiction until such person starts to try drugs to ease the emotional suffering is going through.

The advice from a professional is important and if one is able to get it, there is no need to improvise. Unless it happened to be a professional like the one I just described among the family members themselves, though, it would be unlikely. 


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: deathcode on January 30, 2024, 10:56:11 AM
the situation depends on the gambling addict himself. how serious the addiction is and that determines the attitude that must be taken. If the situation has become stressful, it requires support from the family to generate a new enthusiasm for life for the addict.
but if the impact is still on awareness that is detrimental to other family members, such as selling goods or assets at home for gambling purposes. then we can take a strong stance to show opposition to gambling activities that have disturbed him and his family.
we have to deal with it according to the addict's condition.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: komisariatku on January 30, 2024, 11:18:23 AM
~snip~
What do you think?

Of course it's better to use the first method, but if the first method doesn't work then use the second method, if it still doesn't work then take him to a psychiatrist or professional to treat him and if it still doesn't work, then leave him alone and don't give him money, let him realize it himself because when he has nothing else maybe he will realize his mistake


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on January 30, 2024, 11:23:17 AM
First, let me say that I do not give unsolicited help, I can not just wake up one morning and leave something important I should do or be doing and walk up to someone whom I think is addicted to gambling and want to help him or her stop, what if he or she is actually enjoying it.?

But then, op did talk about the person being a family member, ans sincerely, even if the person is a family member, I still won't help except he or she calls for my help, I can only decide to help a gambling addict on my own if he or she is very close to me, either as a friend or family, if it's someone I talk to always, go out with, we play and do alot of things together, then I definitely will want to try to help him or her, and whether I go the mild and soft way, or the hard and forceful way, all depends on the type of person I am dealing with, people are of different characteristics, someone people don't like being treated soft, while there are some other who also don't like being treated hard.
So, how I chose to help will depend on the behavior or character of the person I dealing with.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: pakhitheboss on January 30, 2024, 11:37:46 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

I do not think being harsh would solve the issue of addiction as it is complex and involves underlying issues such as trauma, mental health challenges, and lack of coping skills. Forcing an addict to stop will only aggravate his addiction habit. The best option is to create a supportive environment for that addict as control tactics or emotional pressure generally backfires. The best option is to hire a professional who knows how addiction issues can be worked on and how an individual can come out of his addiction. If you do not want the family to disintegrate, it is better to hire a professional rather than come out with such an absurd strategy.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: bitterguy28 on January 30, 2024, 11:39:14 AM
there is only one thing that you will surely help ..

NEVER GIVE THEM CHANCE TO BORROW MONEY from you because that is what they will surely ask when they run out of funds and giving them will help them become more addicted.

and also try to guide them away from gambling , bring them to other interesting things in life and activities , bring them to fishing as the calmness of water will help them realized life.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Cantsay on January 30, 2024, 11:47:33 AM
The moment you become harsh to someone who’s facing difficulties in life or trying to leave an habit you’ll only make the issue worst.

For example if it’s someone who doesn’t have a strong self-esteem they’ll feel like you’re not there to help them instead of them being close to you they’ll tend to move away from you and I personally can think of how you’d be able to help someone who doesn’t want to be around you – it will become a mission impossible.  While for some they might just tell you to keep it to yourself since you’ve decide to be harsh – they might even remind you that it’s their life and if you’re not there to help you should leave it the way it is.

So the best option here is to show compassion, always reassure them that they can make it thought the addiction if they keep trying and that they should not give up – do the little things you can as a friend [since they are close to you] and most importantly don’t judge them. This is far better than the harsh approach.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Gozie51 on January 30, 2024, 12:10:05 PM
If it is possible to frustrate their effort to always gamble then do that and get the result you want, to frustrate in this sense is not bad or being wicked it is an effort you want to take to help someone in need of your help. So take the frustrating answer serious by cutting of resources from the gambler. For example if the person is gambling because they have left over money that you gave him on some expenses and running around then cut down on how much they get from you. Again if you can relocate them to where it will be difficult for them to gamble like a strict guardian then you can do that.

Apart from those, you can choose to reorientate the gambler that it is luck base and not a source of income because most addicts see it as source of income. However, if the soft measures fail then you can apply force where necessary like to seize the phone, ban them to follow certain people who influence them, restrict their access to going online etc.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Wapfika on January 30, 2024, 12:11:42 PM
1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

Being harsh to people that have an addiction is proven not working at all because you are just making yourself an additional problem and hurdle for them to deal with addiction.

Even the first option is still subjective because it depends on what kind of person you are since companionship with addicted person is not an easy task. The best choice is to let everyone in your family involved and not you alone so that the addicted person will find a majority support that will comfort him. Addiction starts when a person doesn’t have any other choice yo get the entertainment aside from gambling. It’s either ask the support of professional or deal with it with your family because it’s very hard to control them alone in reality especially if you are not the dominant member in your family.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: yahoo62278 on January 30, 2024, 12:26:56 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
If you think they have a problem, then start with a nice approach. Try to offer support and to do activities to take their mind off of gambling. If that doesn't work, get them help via a therapist. Yelling at them likely isn't going to work and will most likely push them away IMO.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on January 30, 2024, 12:29:11 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.


Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

Hand over a gambling addict to a professional psychologist, and he or she will know the better way to handle the patient after taking their time to study the patient.

The reason why I said that is because there are four temperaments by nature, and people usually possess different temperaments, which makes them react differently to any kind of treatment (in this case, not medical) they receive.

There are some people who, if you show them care and attention and calmly advise them to stop a particular habit, at first it will be difficult for them to stop it, but because they don't want you to feel disappointed at them, they will exercise discipline and make sure they don't go back to addiction again.

There are also some people who, when you calmly advise them and show them care, the moment you leave them alone, they have gone back to doing that thing you just talked to them about. They know you will not do them anything, but you will also talk to them calmly.

Then, some people love to be threatened before they can stop a habit. For example, if you threaten to isolate an addict or threaten to punish them in a way they know will cause harm to them, they will try not to go back to their addiction again.

So, in conclusion, before you can help an addict, study them and know the parameters that can work. If you try the first one and it doesn't work, use the second one. There is a chance that despite the steps you take to help some gambling addicts, they will never change because they have lost their minds to it.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: bitzizzix on January 30, 2024, 12:42:35 PM
It seems like everyone would prefer the former because it cannot be denied that we also like to gamble but are not addicted to it. So treating him as gently as possible will make us feel how peaceful it is if we treat addicts like that, and over time there is a possibility that we will definitely be lulled and be able to stop.
And for the second option, we will definitely feel that if we are treated harshly just to stop gambling, we will definitely be angry. Moreover, an addict will be psychologically disturbed and his mental health will be affected by gambling addiction and that will only make the situation worse, he will rebel and get angry which will make him continue playing without control because of his irritation.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: serjent05 on January 30, 2024, 12:48:57 PM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

A gentler approach is way more effective than an aggressive one.  Human has a rebellious nature, so if we force them to quit, they might feel irritated and agitated and may probably gamble more than before.  Pride when touched and offended may lead to an unpleasant result.  We should be more sensitive and more understanding if we have a gambling addict in the family.  The best thing is to have a heart-to-heart talk to that person and know the reason behind his gambling activities.  This should be done in a most careful manner so as to not to offend the person and make him open up and trust our suggestions.  Never condemn them and as much as possible make them realize their situation in a mild manner.

It is always best to make them realize than force them to realize that they are addicted to gambling.

Hand over a gambling addict to a professional psychologist, and he or she will know the better way to handle the patient after taking their time to study the patient.

But before we can hand over the gambling addict to a professional psychologist, the person should accept that he needs to consult a specialist and sometimes it needs another person to make him realize that there is really a problem.



Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: kotajikikox on January 30, 2024, 12:54:59 PM
You have your own life, you have sets of problem why need to bother yourself about that addict? not unless that person is so much close to you and know that there is something you can do  to help them then act on it.
and also since this is family matter you must know what kind of person is this and what is the capacity , if you do believe that they can change then  help them but trust me you cannot help the person that does not wanted to be healed .


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: PytagoraZ on January 30, 2024, 01:07:23 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best?

If he can still be talked to and has not entered the acute gambling addiction phase then the first option is the right choice. However, if he finds it difficult to hear advice to stop gambling then it is better to use professional help, in my opinion this is more logical and there is a big chance that he can recover from his addiction.

If gambling addiction is left unchecked, it will cause many losses, harm to himself and the people around him, he is also at risk of committing crimes to get money.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: SamReomo on January 30, 2024, 01:18:01 PM
I think in current times being soft is much better because at least that person can understand that whatever he is doing is not only going to harm him but his family as well. If you be rude to that person who's already an addict then you'll somehow hurt his ego and that's the worst thing someone can do with their own family members.

Just be gentle and tell them that gambling addiction is one of the worst type of addictions and it can destroy someone's life. Tell him that the same addiction has destroyed lives of many young people and it will certainly destroy your life as well. Empathy can somehow help such people.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: TheUltraElite on January 30, 2024, 02:07:53 PM
Go with number One but eventually it will not work and you will have to resort to number to. Assess whether the person feels the remorse and wants to get into rehab which is essential to understand that they are willing to help themselves.

The method to explain to them that gambling is detrimental to their well being and their lives should be explicit and hammered on them constantly, so they understand that their actions are having a bad effect on the rest of the family. Try to include how they could have done differently with that money.

It is tough trying to help someone in the family, but it is possible so dont lose hope.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Pandu Geddon on January 30, 2024, 02:25:01 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

We have certainly seen many cases of gambling addicts who were eventually abandoned by their family members. To be honest that wouldn't be good for their mental situation. it can be a stress for the addict which can have worse consequences.
If the situation can still be controlled, then remind and direct the addict with positive things. The only thing that can reduce an addict's activity in gambling is to provide activity in their daily life. Give them positive things so they forget to think about gambling.
the process cannot be simple, it requires sacrifice and a lot of time from those of us around it.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: piebeyb on January 30, 2024, 02:44:13 PM
My friend once advised his younger brother who started gambling, it seems he is not yet addicted to gambling at a serious level, so he can still stop gambling for a while, but that doesn't guarantee that he will stop gambling, he can just gamble hiding in his room. with a cellphone without having to be seen in public, after all gambling is now so sophisticated that just with a cellphone and the internet, gambling can be done online. so there's no point in being tough either.

People who are advised in a harsh way will usually want to continue doing it, so there is no need to exhaust our energy using a harsh method, it is better to use a gentler method of advising him, but this must be done every time so that over time he will think and feel tired of the advice given. he accepts it every time, believe me, it won't be too draining, but it can be done every day to advise him, whether it is successful or not depends on how high the level of addiction is, if the level is still very small, it is still easy to cure, unless the high level has to be done slowly. advised him, need a process and let the process run its course, time will tell in the end whether he will stop gambling or not.  ;)


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: crwth on January 30, 2024, 02:48:12 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?
I'm confused with the term rip off. Are you gonna take advantage of him? It's quite confusing. That's usually being used to people who are taken advantage of or something.

You do know that addicts only listen to themselves, even if you effort so much continuously, it will only work if the addict realizes it on his/her own. I hope that happens to the addicted person near you. Make them think for themselves and I believe it will follow.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Assface16678 on January 30, 2024, 02:49:27 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
I think there is no need to choose between these two options or methods. Why? Simply because you can do both depends on the situation or on what extent the gambler in your family, friends, or how addicted they are. From that, you can come up with a better method suitable for that situation. As an example from the first choices, this kind of help will be effective for those gamblers who are not too deep into their addiction and will change themselves accordingly; in short, they are not too late to change or to back down in gambling. While the second method, you could do this method if the first method didn't work, and also if the extent of his addiction is too much, a calm and good way will be useless, so it's better to state the consequences of gambling addiction even in a harsh way. Yeah, harsh, but we have no option but to wake the addict to their senses.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: abel1337 on January 30, 2024, 02:53:59 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Change it from option 1 and 2 to plan a and b. If a gentle approach with some sort of compassion doesn't budge them, try plan b with a harsher approach to the addict. Even if you have plans like that, the chance of the addict not changing a single bit is possible. Those kind of addicts need a plan c which is a help from professional. The plan has different approach but the goal is straight which is making the addict quit or at least slow them down to the point that they realize that they should stop doing gambling.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: iv4n on January 30, 2024, 03:15:23 PM
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Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

There is no universal answer that can be applied to everyone! Each person is unique, what works for one person may be counterproductive for another. It is also very important which "family member" we are talking about here, we have a different approach if the person is younger or older, a child or a parent.

You already know that person, so figure out the best way to influence that person. If you are not sure, try nice words first, and if that doesn't work, try being a little rougher, if that's an option at all.



Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: blockman on January 30, 2024, 03:23:34 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Any of those will work but I think it's too brutal to say that you're going to rip him off. That member of your family that's addicted to gambling needs help and he has nowhere to go but his immediate and first family. If talking whether in a calm manner or not or even being harsh doesn't work for him then that's the time that you should be more harsh to him and give some ultimatum that you'll never give him the help that he needs. It's like in words but of course, you guys are family and you'll remain to be there.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Ruttoshi on January 30, 2024, 03:39:49 PM
Family is family and we cannot deny the fact that treating the gambler with love can help him leave his addiction rather than being harsh on the gambler. This is because it is not easy to leave addiction when you find yourself been addicted. Letting the person to know the ruin that gambling addiction will cause him, should be good. If possible and you know some gambling addicts that died die to frustration or is living a frustrated life can be of an example that you will use as reference.

On the other hand, a little harshness once in a while can still help, if you see that the person is giving you deaf hears to everything possible that you are trying to make him stop gambling. Let the person to know that he is only wasting his time and money, if possible advice him to quit gambling and go on a long break. This will help a lot.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: xLays on January 30, 2024, 03:56:38 PM
I gonna choose number 1 It's generally better to be understanding and supportive because it creates a positive environment for the person to open up and seek help willingly. Being too forceful (option 2) might make them defensive and less likely to address the issue.
But for me its better that your family member gets professional help like counseling or joining support groups to address their gambling addiction.
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: electronicash on January 30, 2024, 04:27:16 PM

can you do both?

join him while he is gambling and then feed him the wrong bet so he loses  ;D  this way he learns the value of money he lost in gambling.

i have a cousin who is a drug addict, his family let him be in prison for years, they could actually pay bail for him to go out. but then just let him stay there and waste a few years of his life. it actually worked and he seemed to have learned well. it takes a hard and life-changing event before a man can find the lesson.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Rabata on January 30, 2024, 04:35:29 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Many people try to control a gambling addict in various ways to get rid of his addiction. Some are soft and some are strict. But my opinion is that a gambler can't be controlled by any means unless they try on their own. Of course a gambler should know about his addiction beforehand. When he gets a better idea of the nature of the addicted gambler and what his situation might be, he will try to free of the addiction by his own. If a gambler makes such an effort, it is possible for him to get rid of the addiction. Many of those who are minor gamblers are addicted to the rigours can be released. But it will not be possible to work in the same process in all cases.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Hirose UK on January 30, 2024, 05:10:29 PM
If we are gambler and there are other family members who also experience addiction problems, then it will be easier for us to try to help one of the family members who is experiencing an addiction problem.
We as gamblers will better understand and understand the attitude of gambler and the approach in trying to help him recover, which we can also emphasize more on him.
But on the other hand we also have to be able to understand that actually getting someone to stop gambling is very difficult thing.
In context like this, the two methods you have mentioned are actually both quite effective methods in helping to recover from addiction problems.
Method number 1 can be the initial attitude that we need to take and we must continue to be patient, but if the first method fails then method 2 which you have mentioned can be an alternative.
If gambling addict cannot be pressured gently and with patience and love, then harder pressure can make him more aware, of course everything takes time and process.
All of these methods will work but not to completely stop because gambler who is addicted will be able to recover by reducing the intensity of gambling but not by stopping completely.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Marykeller on January 30, 2024, 05:13:50 PM
There are certain habits in life, you don't tell someone who is above 18 years of age to stop by a harsh voice. Instead, you will prefer to use a cool voice to address them, by telling them the dangers of things they are doing, that are not right.

Assuming I find a family member of mine addicted to gambling, I will surely use a cool voice to talk them out of gambling addictions than when I use a harsh voice. Using a harsh voice can cause an issue between me and them, which they won't like to accept "For me to have a say in how they choose to live their life on gambling". They might perceive the words I say to them as an insult, which is not so but due to I use of a harsh voice on them, it sounds so to them.



The tone of our voice matters when we talk to people, whether they are our family or friends. There is an adage that says "A tongue has no bone but it is sharpened like an axe(it can cut down a tree)


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Woodie on January 30, 2024, 05:38:03 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.
This is a two edged sword, first you need to ask yourself why is your family member gambling, is it for financial gain or fun..if it's fun you need to advise them to be part of the family by contributing what they can and not be wasteful with resources and if it's for financial gain I guess a more stable income try should come from finding a job and not gambling as there is inconsistent here.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.
This approach can only be taken if you have had the conversation before otherw being harsh doesn't solve the problem.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Every situation has a way of resolving it and it's easy to take sides on best approach not until you have being tasked with such a problem to resolve.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: sujonali1819 on January 30, 2024, 05:40:38 PM

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

If someone is really addicted means there is a problem which is not good for sure. we have to stop it somehow. At first, I will describe the bad effects of this addiction and how it can be bigger in the future.

2nd try to find out the alternative option for his what he likes most. So that he can focus on the alternative thing and forget slowly gambling. Though it's hard I know.

Then I will try to find out if there is any treatment for it. and admit him there.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Potato Chips on January 30, 2024, 05:57:32 PM
I've been to a couple of mental health online communities and second option is the most recommended to avoid at all cost as it apparently only made people feel worse and avoid treatment.

Hence, I'd always go for first option. Ideally, it is best to seek a professional help but if they're showing reluctance on that, they may try with self-help resources first -- what matters is they are progressing. When it comes to unhealthy habits, stopping all at once typically does not help for me. Instead, I reduce the consumption slowly and/or replace it with another alternative that gives almost the same amount of dopamine.

In extreme cases though, there may be a need for involuntary treatment as they could become a threat to people around them. In this case, reaching out to a professional or through the local social service is the next step.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Mate2237 on January 30, 2024, 05:58:28 PM
All those your methods have been used by parents and family members and also outsiders yet it does not work out for them so the best approach is the number with fervent prayers. A friend of my was a chronic gambler and smoker as well and his parents are deacon and deaconess in a pentiscostal church and the boy was sent to university and only for him to became an addict in the university through friends influence in the school and all what the parents did was instructions and prayers. They only instruct him what to do and they pray then the addiction just left him and now he is a new creature.

If force someone that is an addict then you will make the thin worse than ever and if care is not taking care of the person will leave the house for you and go and leave on their own. So the best way is not to force them to accept your opinion. You have to tell the bad effect of been a gambler and a smoker addict. Then pray.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Wiwo on January 30, 2024, 06:15:55 PM
I will first of all look tlat the relationship between me and that person and if he is someone that we have good rapo with, I will try and advice them, well I can't promise to be by they side all the time, but then if he seek my help at any time, I will gladly offer them that help but if not, then I will rather remain on my own because for an addict to make it out freely, there is a need for them to first of all agree within themselves that they want to quite, otherwise forcing them to do so may become counter productive.

Secondly I may only offer personal stuport if the individual involved is a very close person to me otherwise, I will rather respect my boundaries and keep to myself.



Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: acroman08 on January 30, 2024, 06:48:48 PM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
being soft and gentle would be nice but to be honest, I think the best way to talk to them would be to be firm and gentle at the same time. you need to be frank with them and let them know the negative effects the addiction is having on them and the people around them and what could happen if the behavior continues, but you also need to reaffirm to them that you and the family have their back and will support them if they ask for help(of course the reason as to why they are asking for help would need to be reasonable).


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Mahanton on January 30, 2024, 06:59:17 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Totally actually depends on a certain persons personality on which there are someone who do really love or preferred on listening into those people who are gentle compared into those who are forceful or someone who are scolding them, there are ones who are really that also that listens into those people who are really that having that aggressive stance on the way that they do giving out some advises on which this would really be that actually be that depending on a certain individual and as long it would be something pertaining about quitting then this is something that most important thing to mind on.
If someone inside the family are already that addicted then it would really be just that normal that you would really be having that such concern on which we do really know on what are the things
that could possibly be affected or could happen if such addiction would really be that on severe manner. This is why it would really be always best that we are there for them on battling out such addiction
even though there are cases that only themselves who could really actually resolve out such problem.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Alpha Marine on January 30, 2024, 07:11:38 PM
You can only help those who want to be helped. A gambling addict has to admit that he's an addict and be willing to stop before he can be helped. When he has made a conscious effort to stop them it will be easier to help out.

There's no point in being harsh to an addict. If it was easy for them to not be an addict they would have. It's not easy so you have to be gentle with him.
Being harsh on people is just another way of pushing people far away from you and you can't help a person if the person is far away.
You just have to keep making sure he's loved and not judged. Don't judge them.
This doesn't mean you won't tell them their fuck up to their face. Be honest with them, don't sugarcoat anything, but be gentle. Love them. Love is the only thing that can help. Create trust between the both of you, let the person know you're there for them.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Porfirii on January 30, 2024, 07:18:46 PM
First of all, if it had been possible I'd have ended the addiction before it started, giving good advice and raising his/her curiosity about how gambling really works and why it is not a good idea to lose control in the quest for that great jackpot thad doesn't depend on how much money you stake or how hard you try.

If it was too late, I'm not any specialist, so I'd try to find a good one myself and ask him/her for advice about how to proceed before making things even worse.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Haunebu on January 30, 2024, 07:57:04 PM
I would choose neither because there is a 3rd option which I feel is even better than those two options and that is taking him/her to a psychologist/gambling addiction group who could help in a big way.

Most people don't easily listen to their family members which is why a third person perspective helps in such cases.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Dunamisx on January 30, 2024, 08:07:19 PM
The only method I could easily introduce or suggest was to make abstenance for some time until he's being able to regain back himself to gambling responsibly, this may have to include cutting away every means that could allow him ha e access to gambling which may involve money and any nearby casinos including online ones, then he must also be ready and willing to see the change take effect on his life.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Gozie51 on January 30, 2024, 08:11:56 PM
I would choose neither because there is a 3rd option which I feel is even better than those two options and that is taking him/her to a psychologist/gambling addiction group who could help in a big way.

Most people don't easily listen to their family members which is why a third person perspective helps in such cases.

This could be right because familiar faces will not have much effect to the addict who is going to be needing help and moreover, the psychologist is a professional who knows the expert ways to handle such issues instead of self medicating the addict. So bringing in a third party who is an expert is going to be more effective than the usual family members that may not be forceful when it is needed like seizing certain things that enables the addict to gamble but a professional would keep to the professional ethics to achieve his or goals and to get paid as they bargain in the contract.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on January 30, 2024, 09:39:54 PM
1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.
I don't wanna sound rude for any reason... I don't even wanna consider the fact that sometimes, I might eventually fall a victim of the consequences of Thier addiction...

I feel anyone would tend to listen more when being spoken politely to; being harsh would only make the person see it as being an intrusion into his privacy and might revolt badly... The case of a different result isn't guaranteed should anyone decide to be calm with them but, it's better to understand that "FIRE CANNOT QUENCH FIRE".

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: MainIbem on January 30, 2024, 10:00:05 PM
Gambling is more than what we see merely please permit to say that there is an extra ordinary power that hovers around gambler which I can call it "gambling addicts power" this force seems to be regularly controlling those who are damn routed into gambling that is when you would see this power manifesting in them at this point whatever you does or try to do is like a gas that is being ignite with liter to flame and explode uncontrollably. Naturally those who are found being addicted should be take to rehabilitation center where they can get their normal sense.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: tyz on January 30, 2024, 10:22:45 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

An old friend had this problem. Back then, we were naive enough to think we could help him by explaining that it wasn't good and taking the money away from him. However, the addiction and the desire for the kick was so great that he even ended up stealing to get money and was in prison for a short time.

In the end, he underwent several sessions of therapy and as far as I can tell, he is no longer addicted to gambling. What I'm trying to say is that you should seek professional help. Friends or family can only help with difficulty.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Slow death on January 30, 2024, 11:04:52 PM
Having an addicted relative living in your house is not something easy to deal with. I already had an addicted relative in my house and something that was very difficult for us to understand in the early years was that he was addicted and that we needed to give him appropriate treatment, but at that time my naivety was very great to the point that I couldn't reach everyone. the obvious signs that were in front of me, I and other relatives of mine focused on helping him financially and helped him with treatments for physical illnesses he had. We were being very naive, we didn't realize that his real illness was the addiction that needs to be cured very urgently, as he didn't confess that he was addicted and hid it.

I only talked about the physical illnesses he had, so I thought that his only problem was his physical illness and I didn't try to understand why he had those physical illnesses. Years passed and I and all the other members of our family constantly put him in clinics for treatment, until we discovered that he had to be admitted to a clinic for him to cure his addiction, he left the clinic because his sister gave permission for him to leave, that was a big mistake, his sister thought he was being mistreated, while he was being treated well, but as he wanted to leave to continue his addiction, so he lied. When he understood that following his sister's ideas was not good, it was already too late. With this I want to say to everyone the following:

When you have an addicted relative, do not hesitate to use force to place them in an addiction rehabilitation clinic. When I talk about using force, I am referring to going to court so that the court can use the police to take the addicted person to the hospital. You should not avoid violence against other people, you should use the laws and in these cases, addicted people are a great danger to family and friends and even to people on the streets. This is why it is necessary to go to court to force the addicted person to undergo treatment in the hospital


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Porfirii on January 31, 2024, 06:14:19 AM
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If it was too late, I'm not any specialist, so I'd try to find a good one myself and ask him/her for advice about how to proceed before making things even worse.

I would choose neither because there is a 3rd option which I feel is even better than those two options and that is taking him/her to a psychologist/gambling addiction group who could help in a big way.

Most people don't easily listen to their family members which is why a third person perspective helps in such cases.

LOL, that's what I said in the post immediately preceding yours. Anyway, I can only agree: whenever you have an important problem you can't solve yourself it is usually advisable to look for help, and with addictions is not any different (in fact, seeking help is specially important to avoid derailing if you see the first symthoms). This way you(or your relative) will save much more money in the long term than the price of the consultation, and prevent further problems linked to impulsiveness.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Jating on January 31, 2024, 06:40:11 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

It's really up to the gamblers themselves, you have to take into consideration their mental state and attitude,

1. This is what we called empathetic approach, communication is the key, your should not be not-judgmental but instead uses a open approach and conversation. It allows for a better understanding of their perspective and can be the first step towards seeking help.

2. This is a confrontational approach, but you should approach the person with caution as the harsh approach might have a negative impact to him.

So it's important to recognized that each person situation and personality is very unique. One works for one individual, might not work for another, so it's a case to case basis. A aggressive approach could be detrimental, as usually a gambling addicts doesn't believed in the beginning that they are not addict and so this process might hinder the building of trust and so recovery might take time.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: EarnOnVictor on January 31, 2024, 09:46:47 AM
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What do you think?
Although there is more to solving the addiction problem in gambling, both approaches are good, and in my experience, people, especially parents and family members have used either of the approaches or both and worked, but not in all cases still. Gambling addiction is a powerful addiction since it has to do with money, and that is why it is good we do not position our minds on the money when we start gambling, this will impact a very bad root in our psychology if the care is not taken, and to uproot such will be so difficult. I think that either of the approaches should be used on the person one after the other, and I must say that I have seen that they worked for some people and failed in others. Now, if the two had been used but failed, I think that the next thing is to make sure that you solve the issue from the source.

It might be financial needs that are causing that, so the person must first be settled in that regard before the issue can be resolved, he needs financial freedom. We all need purpose in life and the more there are other means that give the gambler money and also take his time and attention away from it, then it is near time that he will be healthy again and be delivered of the menace. Just continue to advise him after securing a job for him and I know that it will go a long way to help him as this approach has helped many.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: junder on January 31, 2024, 11:00:10 AM
You can only help those who want to be helped. A gambling addict has to admit that he's an addict and be willing to stop before he can be helped. When he has made a conscious effort to stop them it will be easier to help out.

There's no point in being harsh to an addict. If it was easy for them to not be an addict they would have. It's not easy so you have to be gentle with him.
Being harsh on people is just another way of pushing people far away from you and you can't help a person if the person is far away.
You just have to keep making sure he's loved and not judged. Don't judge them.
This doesn't mean you won't tell them their fuck up to their face. Be honest with them, don't sugarcoat anything, but be gentle. Love them. Love is the only thing that can help. Create trust between the both of you, let the person know you're there for them.

First, they have to be able to admit that they are addicted to gambling, because usually those who are addicted to gambling don't want to admit that they are addicted to gambling. also with them addicted to gambling they will not easily accept advice from others. It's true what you said, they will be easily helped if they admit they are addicted and have their own advice, but if they don't have their own awareness then in my opinion it will be difficult even if they are helped by other people or their closest family.

To be honest, when someone is addicted to gambling, his family will definitely do their best by gently helping him, but as time goes by, if the addict doesn't change, then it is likely that the family will also raise their hand to help him. because I myself am fed up of advising my friend who is addicted to gambling, so now I just let him, let him experience an incident that will make him realize it by himself. After he has his own awareness then maybe advice from other people can be accepted well.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Mahanton on January 31, 2024, 12:04:00 PM
You can only help those who want to be helped. A gambling addict has to admit that he's an addict and be willing to stop before he can be helped. When he has made a conscious effort to stop them it will be easier to help out.

There's no point in being harsh to an addict. If it was easy for them to not be an addict they would have. It's not easy so you have to be gentle with him.
Being harsh on people is just another way of pushing people far away from you and you can't help a person if the person is far away.
You just have to keep making sure he's loved and not judged. Don't judge them.
This doesn't mean you won't tell them their fuck up to their face. Be honest with them, don't sugarcoat anything, but be gentle. Love them. Love is the only thing that can help. Create trust between the both of you, let the person know you're there for them.

First, they have to be able to admit that they are addicted to gambling, because usually those who are addicted to gambling don't want to admit that they are addicted to gambling. also with them addicted to gambling they will not easily accept advice from others. It's true what you said, they will be easily helped if they admit they are addicted and have their own advice, but if they don't have their own awareness then in my opinion it will be difficult even if they are helped by other people or their closest family.

To be honest, when someone is addicted to gambling, his family will definitely do their best by gently helping him, but as time goes by, if the addict doesn't change, then it is likely that the family will also raise their hand to help him. because I myself am fed up of advising my friend who is addicted to gambling, so now I just let him, let him experience an incident that will make him realize it by himself. After he has his own awareness then maybe advice from other people can be accepted well.
They would really be in denial as much as they could until you would be able to caught them on the spot then this is where they would really be making those admission that they are really that addicted.
If ever that ones of the family members who are really that on such condition or situation then as a family member who do loves then it would really be normal that you would really doing your very best
to help them to solve out that gambling problem. Not all would really be that in concern with others situations and conditions but as a family then it would really be that impossible that you could turn back.
Why wont you would really be turning your back into someone who is your family and you do know that he/she's addicted with gambling?

It would really be that impossible that you would really be that too cold hearten on that kind of situation or condition on which even myself would really be
sure that help would really be next on the line once i do able to know such situation.



Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Franctoshi on January 31, 2024, 12:06:11 PM
If you really want to help an addict, ensure you engage them with something meaningful, especially something that will fill that gap and fetch them money while they stay away from the number of time that they spend in gambling else they will still fall back into their usual way, always check back on them from time to time to know if their situation is gradually improving ,talk to them and feed their minds with words of encouragement.  


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on January 31, 2024, 12:24:18 PM
If you really want to help an addict, ensure you engage them with something meaningful, especially something that will fill that gap and fetch them money while they stay away from the number of time that they spend in gambling else they will still fall back into their usual way, always check back on them from time to time to know if their situation is gradually improving ,talk to them and feed their minds with words of encouragement.  
Well, this actually sounds like a very stressful venture for a person who it is not his or her profession or area of expertise to help and cure gamblers who are addicted to gambling.
And considering that the world we live in today is getting busier each and every passing day, and so are people in the world also getting busier as well, and I do not doubt about those who will have the money, or means of making money to introduce to the gambler who is addicted so as to get him or her engaged, possibly because I know we have a lot of wealthy persons in the world, but in the area of time, who would have such time to keep check over an addicted gambler , even if he or she is a family member?

Anyways, I am possibly comparing myself to other people out there, maybe there are alot of less busy people than I thought, but still, the best way to help I think is to take such person to a professional who can help them get out and heal from their gambling addiction - though this largely depends on the level of addiction, some that are still mild can easily get away from the addiction by a simple advice from someone the addicted love and respect.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: GideonGono on January 31, 2024, 12:49:19 PM
It is hard to choose cause it would be different for each person, sometimes being soft and gentle would just get you ignored they would act like they are listening but they aren't really paying attention, on the other side being harsh and straight forward would make them realize how frustrated you are with them.
For me if you already given out some time on being gentle and they would keep on getting back to it, then it is time to be harsh and if they still continue to their addiction, then there is nothing you could do about it.
If they don't want to help their self there is no one else who could help them, no matter what effort you put up it would just go to waste, that is how I see it.
Action speaks louder than words even if they say that they want to change if they don't act it, it is all just words if they really want to change they would start even in small steps.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Haunebu on January 31, 2024, 12:52:33 PM
Anyway, I can only agree: whenever you have an important problem you can't solve yourself it is usually advisable to look for help, and with addictions is not any different (in fact, seeking help is specially important to avoid derailing if you see the first symthoms). This way you(or your relative) will save much more money in the long term than the price of the consultation, and prevent further problems linked to impulsiveness.
True. Problem here is that many people especially the ones living in 3rd world countries feel that trying to treat mental issues like gambling addiction could affect their reputation in society negatively which is why they avoid going to psychologists.

They end up making things worse for themselves usually due to those silly reasons.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: avp2306 on January 31, 2024, 01:06:41 PM
Anyway, I can only agree: whenever you have an important problem you can't solve yourself it is usually advisable to look for help, and with addictions is not any different (in fact, seeking help is specially important to avoid derailing if you see the first symthoms). This way you(or your relative) will save much more money in the long term than the price of the consultation, and prevent further problems linked to impulsiveness.
True. Problem here is that many people especially the ones living in 3rd world countries feel that trying to treat mental issues like gambling addiction could affect their reputation in society negatively which is why they avoid going to psychologists.

They end up making things worse for themselves usually due to those silly reasons.

They also thought that mentally ill people will only goes on psychologist and they continue to be denial about their real condition since for them they are fine but actually they are causing to much damage to people around him especially on his family members that's why its really good for people to know that psychologist or expert is not only for crazy people but rather they can give advice or immediate help for those people experiencing gambling addiction and other more.

If they keep ignoring things and continue on what they are doing for sure they would really make things worse not only for them but also for people around them. So proper acceptance on situation is important so the person affected on gambling addiction can move on and eliminated that on their heads.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: rodskee on January 31, 2024, 01:40:00 PM
I will do everything for the family so I will help Him/Her in every possible ways and even to
spend my last penny just to help them leave gambling addiction , actually we in family are intact so I think
this will never happen to us but if by any case that one of the family member will be involve in such a way
then the family is full force to support and find ways to make things better.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Crypt0Gore on January 31, 2024, 01:56:22 PM
I understand why people won't want to be harsh with their loved ones but it should depend on the person, some people are good at listening and correcting themselves, you don't have to take it hard on them, while some people don't listen easily, they don't take words of others very seriously, such people needs extra correction, if harsh is necessary you should use it, like I've said it depends on the person who is addicted to gambling.

Some people are too stubborn that they only listen to the words of very few numbers of people, if such people can be found, you can advise them to speak with the addicted gambler, maybe he will reason the whole thing since the advice is coming from those he respected more.

Some gamblers can't be changed though, even if they leave gambling for few years they will always be back, until they are in a very messy state they won't know and accept that they are doing everything wrong, gambling can easily mess with you, it's left for you to beat the addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: piebeyb on January 31, 2024, 02:11:18 PM
I will do everything for the family so I will help Him/Her in every possible ways and even to
spend my last penny just to help them leave gambling addiction , actually we in family are intact so I think
this will never happen to us but if by any case that one of the family member will be involve in such a way
then the family is full force to support and find ways to make things better.
That's good, friend, if you want to do that, it means you are a person who really cares and won't let anyone in your family get addicted to gambling because in many cases gambling addiction can make someone commit a crime or act that is detrimental to themselves. I've seen my neighbor's child become an addict. gambling where his family really tried to cure him of gambling so he was locked up in his room without internet and cell phone, I know it was an act of torture against him but maybe I should understand that his family was doing it for his good so it had to be a little harsh.

But there are also gambling addicts who can be advised in a gentler way depending on the person, if those with a high level of gambling addiction are usually quite difficult to cure, in fact they will ignore advice from anyone including their family, therefore it depends on the level of addiction, if the level is low it is usually easy. to be advised so that he can be immediately cured of his bad habits and gambling addiction, namely by advising him to reduce his gambling activities permanently and remain responsible when gambling.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Zlantann on January 31, 2024, 02:21:10 PM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

The first approach should be a lenient and soft one. You have to speak to the person and inquire what are the triggers of addictive gambling. At this stage, there should be a discussion or dialogue between you and the person which will lead to counseling based on what you have discovered. A peaceful and respectful discussion will enable you to identify the person's problem and also devise viable means of handling the situation.

Taking more drastic actions could come in if you observed that the counsel was not effective. You don't need to insult or attack the gambler but close supervision could be a good option. You will have to closely monitor the person's financial transactions to ascertain the level of gambling addiction. If the person is a dependent actions like reduction or control of financial assistance could be effective. Seeking professional help could also be an option if the first strategy failed. But you cannot force an adult who is not depending on you for finance to stop gambling. You can only advise and also suggest to them to seek assistance.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Asuspawer09 on January 31, 2024, 02:40:36 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

I mean if they are already an addict that's is for sure going to be difficult because if you're already a gambling addict you already deep on it and In my opinion all of the things that you have said are not going to work if that is just what you're going to do, however, if you're just talking about the method of being harsh or soft for sure the best way to do here is just be soft show some low and make them feel that you are on their side at this situation even though it is probably going to be a huge journey for them.

There's probably no way to help them unless they are the ones that are going to decide that they dont want it anymore, all of the addicts that I know want to stop but they just can't stop because it's not that easy, and it's a long process. It would take commitment and process in order to fix their problem probably better to undergo a certain program where you slowly fix things, like slowly reducing your gambling until you completely get rid of it. Still, I just dont see how using force is going to be a good way of helping them since it might just lead to a bigger issue in the future.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Rufsilf on January 31, 2024, 03:07:36 PM
If that were to happen to me, I might employ the first method because, in that case, I could approach the problem with empathy and gradually demonstrate to the family member that I care about both their physical and mental well-being. I believe I should make an effort to comprehend him or her and have an honest discussion with them about how addiction has affected their lives. If the initial approach remains ineffective, it may be appropriate to seek assistance from professionals to help him or her clarify their current circumstances. Since we might be able to support them emotionally during their recovery as family members in this way, And if he/she is already open to it, perhaps I can help them accept responsibility for their deeds by suggesting that they establish reasonable objectives in order to get out of the situation they are in. After all, conquering addiction is a difficult process, and patience is crucial. It may take some time, but the most crucial thing is that you can see that a tiny progress is being made.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: LesterD on January 31, 2024, 03:56:59 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
The first solution, if you plan to be by side all the time with a gambling addict, keep in mind that it's only helpful if you have a lot of time and can dedicate the whole day to being with them. However, if you stay on their side for too long, it might irritate them.

The second solution may seem harsh, but sometimes it's more effective to show someone that there are consequences for their gambling behavior. Being firm and setting boundaries can be more impactful than trying to persuade them with kind words, as they may simply ignore you.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Pmalek on January 31, 2024, 04:20:45 PM
A combination of 1 and 2 is best in my opinion.

First of all, you can't cure someone from any addiction as long as the person doesn't believe they have a problem. They have to realize what they are doing is wrong and self-destructive before they can receive help. I would introduce a professional into the mix. Someone who knows how to treat gambling addiction and has perfected their methods to cure it. The person should be around family and people that love them. Their days should be filled with work and responsibilities that doesn't give them too much time to think about gambling. Normal hobbies and spending your past-time in a quality way is also essential for successful recovery. 

In the end, it's all about how strong the person is mentally. Gambling addiction is nothing compared to the addictions and sicknesses in this world. If they realize how lucky they are to have friends and family who wish only the best for them, they will do everything necessary to recover. If not...


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: pawanjain on January 31, 2024, 04:44:19 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

You have already mentioned 2 ways to try them out and obviously number 1 would be the first preference for anybody.
If the person recovers from the addiction then well and good and otherwise we can try out the 2nd option.
There's no harm in doing anything to recover your close one from gambling addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: qwertyup23 on January 31, 2024, 05:06:42 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

This method may work if the addict is willing to be helped in the first place.

Majority of these addicts are also individuals who have lost their cause but this may be regained by constant reassurance and support from their immediate family members. If these people believe that the addict can change, then the latter may be more inclined to change in the process.

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2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

The result can go either way with this kind of method.

Naturally, addicts use their addiction as an escape to reality. With this on mind, it is essential to first know on why they are addicted in the first place. If they are addicted to gambling due to the sake of making a profit, then this method MAY work. But if the addict uses gambling as a way to escape reality, then this method may not work as effectively.

CONCLUSION:

At the end of the day, there is no iron-rule when it comes to knowing which method to use as this can vary depending on the reason on why these gamblers are addicted to it in the first place.

Understanding them and knowing their situation are key factors into knowing on how you approach them so you could employ methods that can be effective and helpful at the same time.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: DaNNy001 on January 31, 2024, 05:41:26 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
At the very end it still boils down to the decision of the person with the addiction, because I have seen cases where the gambler in questions get all the above therapy but at the very end of everything he still succumbed to the habit and this is because he lacks the very determination to actually fight against the addicted habits of his and this is very common among many humans but still same I think the both method 1&2 are effective but that's if the person in question too works hard.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Wiwo on January 31, 2024, 05:44:05 PM
The thing is that, having an addict as a family member doesn't mean that you can hup into their private life and sometimes it takes an intense pressure before I get involved in other people affairs, this is because gambling addiction is a strong hold and to get out of it requeirs alot from the individual involved who is the victim, because it is his willingness that will grant him the will power to beat the addictions.

For that we have to wait for them to make of their mind to be willing to over come they addictions because that is the only way to get out of that problem at some points.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: SamReomo on January 31, 2024, 06:18:57 PM
gambling addiction is a strong hold and to get out of it requeirs alot from the individual involved who is the victim, because it is his willingness that will grant him the will power to beat the addictions.
Yes, you're right it's not easy to get rid of that addiction and others efforts can't do much if the individual isn't willing to leave the addiction himself. It's ones own will power that can stop reduce the intensity of this addiction but sometimes a good advice is very needed to awaken someone's will power and that's why I think it's better to peacefully tell such addicts that how dangerous this addiction is and how much harm it can provide.

In the end it's someone's own will power that can help that person to get rid of the addiction. Getting rid of gambling addiction isn't a child's play because it requires a lot of effort and hard work. The addicts can get rid of it if they develop their own will power and self discipline otherwise it's not easy at all.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Antotena on January 31, 2024, 07:51:31 PM
2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

This one will not end well if you use this approach. A gambler is supposed to be 18+ which means you are going to be talking to an adult and I don't think you have the right to speak to an adult harshly, not even your own brother you can treat like that, he might not entertain it the way you view it and you are the one that see them as addicted person, they don't see addiction as you see them.

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Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

If money join me and that person together, I will make sure the first thing I do is to cut anything that supply him money so he doesn't get access to money to gamble, no Bankroll no gambling for him. I can also talk to the person calmly in the best way he can understand that he is not doing well in life and I will back it up with evidence. If the person is a good thinker, he will come to his senses and take correction and will even appreciate your support for trying to leave gambling.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Dunamisx on January 31, 2024, 07:59:55 PM
The thing is that, having an addict as a family member doesn't mean that you can hup into their private life and sometimes it takes an intense pressure before I get involved in other people affairs, this is because gambling addiction is a strong hold and to get out of it requeirs alot from the individual involved who is the victim, because it is his willingness that will grant him the will power to beat the addictions.

For that we have to wait for them to make of their mind to be willing to over come they addictions because that is the only way to get out of that problem at some points.

We need to make ourse available in cases where our fiends or brothers needed our help and shoulders to lean on, some couldn't afford doing this on their own without other's influence in their decision, this is not us being totally dependent for them to use us the way they want  because we are not responsible for their actions, we are only committed to helping them on our own way as we could best engage doing.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Odusko on January 31, 2024, 09:08:20 PM
The best form of support for an addict is to talk them out of it, but in doing so, you must avoid getting overly involved to the point that it becomes an immersive imposition on them because if you allow it to downgrade to that stage, it becomes highly risky for you as family members to lose their trust of confidentiality which is a vital tool to helping them get out of the huck of addictions.
To avoid such occurrences one needs to hold every in high esteem and also make sure to draw them closer instead of pushing them away which will result in a more negative future for the addicts, family is file support and at that stage, the individual needs all the support they can get.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 31, 2024, 09:13:41 PM
The thing is that, having an addict as a family member doesn't mean that you can hup into their private life and sometimes it takes an intense pressure before I get involved in other people affairs, this is because gambling addiction is a strong hold and to get out of it requeirs alot from the individual involved who is the victim, because it is his willingness that will grant him the will power to beat the addictions.

For that we have to wait for them to make of their mind to be willing to over come they addictions because that is the only way to get out of that problem at some points.

if the person is a family member, then, it means, you already know how to approach the person. but of course, you still need to give him privacy and just involve with his life if you think he is ready to open up himself and has the signs that he needs help. because you will see it if he is struggling to help himself but there is the will to change. but if he is in denial and seems angry to the world, i guess, pause your approach and just wait for the right time. because you will be the bad person in the scenario if you insist your help and he doesn't want it yet.

The best form of support for an addict is to talk them out of it, but in doing so, you must avoid getting overly involved to the point that it becomes an immersive imposition on them because if you allow it to downgrade to that stage, it becomes highly risky for you as family members to lose their trust of confidentiality which is a vital tool to helping them get out of the huck of addictions.
To avoid such occurrences one needs to hold every in high esteem and also make sure to draw them closer instead of pushing them away which will result in a more negative future for the addicts, family is file support and at that stage, the individual needs all the support they can get.

that's why give him space and just wait for the appropriate time to enter his life. as a family member, you will know the signs that he needs help from other people. if you see that he is not yet ready, better not be so aggressive because he will just shy away from potential help.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Quidat on January 31, 2024, 09:15:08 PM
The thing is that, having an addict as a family member doesn't mean that you can hup into their private life and sometimes it takes an intense pressure before I get involved in other people affairs, this is because gambling addiction is a strong hold and to get out of it requeirs alot from the individual involved who is the victim, because it is his willingness that will grant him the will power to beat the addictions.

For that we have to wait for them to make of their mind to be willing to over come they addictions because that is the only way to get out of that problem at some points.

We need to make ourse available in cases where our fiends or brothers needed our help and shoulders to lean on, some couldn't afford doing this on their own without other's influence in their decision, this is not us being totally dependent for them to use us the way they want  because we are not responsible for their actions, we are only committed to helping them on our own way as we could best engage doing.
When it comes to colleagues or friends then i dont really that having that kind of sense of responsibility on trying out to help but as much as i do and possible then i might giving off those kind of advises on which based up with my own understanding of course on which it would really be giving out that positive rather than on negative but as speaking about family members then it would really be just that automatically that you would really be giving your very best on trying to help out- thats your own family and it would really be just that normal that you would really be helping him/her.
We do know ton what gambling addiction could bring and it is really just that normal that you should really be setting out yourself on helping that someone whose really that in need trouble.
Gambling addiction could really give out that negative effect on someones life and as a family then it would be common sense on what you should gonna do.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: danadc on January 31, 2024, 09:24:57 PM
The thing is that, having an addict as a family member doesn't mean that you can hup into their private life and sometimes it takes an intense pressure before I get involved in other people affairs, this is because gambling addiction is a strong hold and to get out of it requeirs alot from the individual involved who is the victim, because it is his willingness that will grant him the will power to beat the addictions.

For that we have to wait for them to make of their mind to be willing to over come they addictions because that is the only way to get out of that problem at some points.

We need to make ourse available in cases where our fiends or brothers needed our help and shoulders to lean on, some couldn't afford doing this on their own without other's influence in their decision, this is not us being totally dependent for them to use us the way they want  because we are not responsible for their actions, we are only committed to helping them on our own way as we could best engage doing.
When it comes to colleagues or friends then i dont really that having that kind of sense of responsibility on trying out to help but as much as i do and possible then i might giving off those kind of advises on which based up with my own understanding of course on which it would really be giving out that positive rather than on negative but as speaking about family members then it would really be just that automatically that you would really be giving your very best on trying to help out- thats your own family and it would really be just that normal that you would really be helping him/her.
We do know ton what gambling addiction could bring and it is really just that normal that you should really be setting out yourself on helping that someone whose really that in need trouble.
Gambling addiction could really give out that negative effect on someones life and as a family then it would be common sense on what you should gonna do.


I am the person to see that if someone needs my help in the process to improve the addiction, then I would do it, whether it be words, advice, or something that can lift their spirits, that is something that we must do so that they can overcome the problems. improve things and obviously do something so that I can generate the best possible in making a difference, the people are addicted, in the majority because they can have a family, they can have a person who hurts them because they are like this, it is something normal, I don't go out to judging them, I know that sometimes facing this problem is not easy, but it is very good to attack it when it should be done, I would have everything to be able to help a person, what you know is that sometimes they need attention from a psychologist and that's not what I am .

A person when he is addicted, sometimes his family needs to help him get out of where he is, it is difficult, but it is not impossible, he has to do it quickly, because the consequences are catastrophic when it is not done quickly.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Renampun on January 31, 2024, 09:48:23 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

I don't think being a little harsh is a bad thing to help our family members quit gambling because everyone has a different way of being educated.
Being strict with families who are found to be active gamblers is the perfect attitude, and always give good encouragement so that they can leave their gambling activities because gambling actively for too long will only make them change uncontrollably and will definitely continue to gamble without stopping.
Gambling is not a dangerous activity, but for those who are still young, they are prone to becoming gambling addicts, their school years will be threatened.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Nrcewker on February 01, 2024, 02:55:12 AM
I guess, it’s better to stop them providing money for gambling. If they won’t have money to gamble, then how come they will gamble? In this manner, their addiction might decrease. Moreover you can also show them additional love and ask them to spend time with the family. Addiction won’t be gone in a single day, but if you keep him busy with other work, then definitely the addiction level will decrease and a day will come when the gambling addiction will be gone forever.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: pinggoki on February 01, 2024, 03:10:28 AM
I guess, it’s better to stop them providing money for gambling. If they won’t have money to gamble, then how come they will gamble? In this manner, their addiction might decrease. Moreover you can also show them additional love and ask them to spend time with the family. Addiction won’t be gone in a single day, but if you keep him busy with other work, then definitely the addiction level will decrease and a day will come when the gambling addiction will be gone forever.
This is supposed to be the best type of intervention but the problem is that it's a bad idea to actually do it because cutting off their supply of money would lead them to desperate actions like kleptomania and at the same time make them commit crime just to get by with their addiction, for me, it's the total forcing of them to go to rehab or a forceful intervention that they can't find other way around besides complying with the intervention to get to the rehab, this is one of the times that tough love is actually a permissible thing to do to that person because they're not going to go anywhere if you just let their behavior because of their addiction towards you slide time and time again.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: blckhawk on February 01, 2024, 05:44:36 AM
1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.
This is a good way to ease them into getting professional help, they need the tenderness and that's how they should be treated first so they don't resist the idea of therapy or rehab. But if we really want things to work, love and tender care for them should be combined with a stern talking and an ultimatum in regards to their addiction should also be addressed so they know that you're serious about them changing for the better and that it's the best for both of you, addiction is a disease and I believe that the combination of the addict's determination for change towards a new life and the care of their family will make the fight against that disease a bit more winnable than not having one of them.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Porfirii on February 01, 2024, 06:00:19 AM
Anyway, I can only agree: whenever you have an important problem you can't solve yourself it is usually advisable to look for help, and with addictions is not any different (in fact, seeking help is specially important to avoid derailing if you see the first symthoms). This way you(or your relative) will save much more money in the long term than the price of the consultation, and prevent further problems linked to impulsiveness.
True. Problem here is that many people especially the ones living in 3rd world countries feel that trying to treat mental issues like gambling addiction could affect their reputation in society negatively which is why they avoid going to psychologists.

They end up making things worse for themselves usually due to those silly reasons.

Now that you mentioned developing countries, another problem that they should face would be that not everybody has enough money to pay a specialist to help him/her, so I suppose that the problem is harder to solve there because of poverty, not to mention social stigma linked to believing that only insane people need therapy.

In such cases, family and friends should prioritize and save the money to pay for the therapy. The good thing is that a consultation is often cheaper there than in other regions of the world, but tools and attention might be worse too.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: mak013 on February 01, 2024, 07:15:19 AM
As for me - only the second way. It is difficult to make an addict to change his life and if you will be soft with him - he will be only happy that someone cares of him. But if you make him to work hard, to change the life - he willn`t like it, but it will help him to win this battle.
As one more moment - he must understand himself, that there is another life - without gambling. Help him to find a job, give advice - that`s all, until he begin change his life himself.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on February 01, 2024, 07:23:06 AM
Anyway, I can only agree: whenever you have an important problem you can't solve yourself it is usually advisable to look for help, and with addictions is not any different (in fact, seeking help is specially important to avoid derailing if you see the first symthoms). This way you(or your relative) will save much more money in the long term than the price of the consultation, and prevent further problems linked to impulsiveness.
True. Problem here is that many people especially the ones living in 3rd world countries feel that trying to treat mental issues like gambling addiction could affect their reputation in society negatively which is why they avoid going to psychologists.

They end up making things worse for themselves usually due to those silly reasons.

Now that you mentioned developing countries, another problem that they should face would be that not everybody has enough money to pay a specialist to help him/her, so I suppose that the problem is harder to solve there because of poverty, not to mention social stigma linked to believing that only insane people need therapy.

In such cases, family and friends should prioritize and save the money to pay for the therapy. The good thing is that a consultation is often cheaper there than in other regions of the world, but tools and attention might be worse too.
Well, though I am not doubting it's possibility, but I've not seen or heard of a stage of gambling addiction that will require therapy before the victim of the addiction will be able to come out free from it, if actually such level of addiction in gambling exists, then it must be very rare.

I've had a couple of friends who were gambling addicts, they were addicts and gambled for years, but at a particular point in their respective lives, each of them began to see reasons why he needs to stop gambling asap, so as to get free from the addiction, one was having issues with his wife on daily basis because of his excessive gambling activity, another at another time started having issues with finance which also later started affecting his presents at his work place, since  he spends money on transportation on daily basis to and from work.

This guys never went do any doctor or specialist, they did partake in any form of therapy to get free from  their gambling addiction, they both got free from it when they both on their respective times, decide to quit, and made of their minds to discipline themselves and stand firm to that decision to never gamble again, atleast, until they are sure they are no longer controlled by gambling, and surly, it did worked out for them..


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: 2Pizza410000BTC on February 01, 2024, 07:43:49 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
To get rid of a gambling addict I have to be strict first because the gambling addict needs to understand that I am very strict about gambling. Then he should be treated politely and gently and gradually convince him that gambling is very bad and gambling should be used only for entertainment. He needs to be convinced in such a way that he gradually understands and gives up gambling. I think if a gambling addict can be properly explained in this way then surely he will get rid of gambling addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: junder on February 01, 2024, 08:59:16 AM
You can only help those who want to be helped. A gambling addict has to admit that he's an addict and be willing to stop before he can be helped. When he has made a conscious effort to stop them it will be easier to help out.

There's no point in being harsh to an addict. If it was easy for them to not be an addict they would have. It's not easy so you have to be gentle with him.
Being harsh on people is just another way of pushing people far away from you and you can't help a person if the person is far away.
You just have to keep making sure he's loved and not judged. Don't judge them.
This doesn't mean you won't tell them their fuck up to their face. Be honest with them, don't sugarcoat anything, but be gentle. Love them. Love is the only thing that can help. Create trust between the both of you, let the person know you're there for them.

First, they have to be able to admit that they are addicted to gambling, because usually those who are addicted to gambling don't want to admit that they are addicted to gambling. also with them addicted to gambling they will not easily accept advice from others. It's true what you said, they will be easily helped if they admit they are addicted and have their own advice, but if they don't have their own awareness then in my opinion it will be difficult even if they are helped by other people or their closest family.

To be honest, when someone is addicted to gambling, his family will definitely do their best by gently helping him, but as time goes by, if the addict doesn't change, then it is likely that the family will also raise their hand to help him. because I myself am fed up of advising my friend who is addicted to gambling, so now I just let him, let him experience an incident that will make him realize it by himself. After he has his own awareness then maybe advice from other people can be accepted well.
They would really be in denial as much as they could until you would be able to caught them on the spot then this is where they would really be making those admission that they are really that addicted.
If ever that ones of the family members who are really that on such condition or situation then as a family member who do loves then it would really be normal that you would really doing your very best
to help them to solve out that gambling problem. Not all would really be that in concern with others situations and conditions but as a family then it would really be that impossible that you could turn back.
Why wont you would really be turning your back into someone who is your family and you do know that he/she's addicted with gambling?

It would really be that impossible that you would really be that too cold hearten on that kind of situation or condition on which even myself would really be
sure that help would really be next on the line once i do able to know such situation.

That's clear, in my opinion what is called a family is that there is a bond of helping each other, when one family member has a problem then the other family members have to help to overcome the problem that occurs to one of the other members. That's true, even if a family helps, it won't be easy if the main perpetrator himself doesn't have the awareness that what he is doing is wrong, also in my opinion when someone is addicted they will most likely only think about gambling and tend not to care about other things.

I don't understand what you said about turning your back on someone who is my family.
However, if one of my own family members is addicted then I will also warn him, advise as best I can, but as I said before, if the main perpetrator doesn't change at all like my friend, then what I will do is leave it to him. realized for himself that what he did was wrong. because in my opinion advising people who won't change is just a waste of time.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Bushdark on February 01, 2024, 10:53:54 PM
As for me - only the second way. It is difficult to make an addict to change his life and if you will be soft with him - he will be only happy that someone cares of him. But if you make him to work hard, to change the life - he willn`t like it, but it will help him to win this battle.
As one more moment - he must understand himself, that there is another life - without gambling. Help him to find a job, give advice - that`s all, until he begin change his life himself.
For someone to being a gambling addict is a normal thing and we don't have to keep accusing the person or disrespecting them because of gambling. Sometimes we can keep asking questions of how far the person had been betting and what's there plan in the future.
We can always laugh and spend frequent time with the person. The love only can make the person comes closer and start gisting with us.
It's all about time and with friendship, helping the person gamble healthy without too thinking of what to bet on again.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: paxmao on February 01, 2024, 11:06:28 PM
The most important thing is for the addict to understand that he is actually one. The second is to understand that there is no "control" and that things are going to be worse with time even if the addiction is not causing a problem here and now. The way you can communicate this to the person makes a lot of difference and their way of understanding a critic will mark their ability to react correctly.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 01, 2024, 11:14:44 PM
As for me - only the second way. It is difficult to make an addict to change his life and if you will be soft with him - he will be only happy that someone cares of him. But if you make him to work hard, to change the life - he willn`t like it, but it will help him to win this battle.
As one more moment - he must understand himself, that there is another life - without gambling. Help him to find a job, give advice - that`s all, until he begin change his life himself.
For someone to being a gambling addict is a normal thing and we don't have to keep accusing the person or disrespecting them because of gambling. Sometimes we can keep asking questions of how far the person had been betting and what's there plan in the future.
We can always laugh and spend frequent time with the person. The love only can make the person comes closer and start gisting with us.
It's all about time and with friendship, helping the person gamble healthy without too thinking of what to bet on again.

Addiction is something that Currently has many treatments, of course things are always going to be in favor of those who have one treatment, the things that can be achieved are many, a worse example in a thread here in the forum is He talks a lot about how to help them, because basically the treatments in some countries are quite Expensive , and that's true , it's a fact, for example where I live, a consultation with a psychologist is not that Expensive , it must be because there are so many, kla Competneic makes the demand because it is low and they are people who offer some free treatments, cases where they go for the First time People and see them, after that or if they charge them later, the important thing is to do Something , I have said Several times here in the forum things are different , because I think there are many who are Perhaps going through that bad moment , so one of the things they should avoid is that they follow Advice like staying Stuck or Something like that , as long as we can Help many Here, because I Consider it much better.

In another order of ideas , I have talked about a treatment that is good for those who cannot be controlled, it is with sleep cures, but nevertheless it is said that this is for patients who are too strong , who become aggressive or something So, once these things Are the ones that should be Avoided, we have to see all these possibilities, because the important thing is that we have many things to be able to avoid it, and I think one of the easiest ways is with control of our money. If there is good control of our budget, of our money, things will be done much better, and that is what is sought, for me the people who seek help are because they want to be cured, and this is something I Admire , not everyone has that mindset of thinking and accepting things, that's why I say that person Should be valued like that.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: PX-Z on February 01, 2024, 11:14:49 PM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
I can't probably tell, i'm not an expert/professional person to advise something like that, especially for a gambling "addict" where he is already manipulated by the gambling and money.

If this is a person is a close of mine, probably, a short talk of what he can loss "more" and possible scenarios that will happen once he still won't stop, like providing him the news related to being gambling addict for them to realize what will be his future.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: odunybiz on February 01, 2024, 11:41:44 PM
As for me - only the second way. It is difficult to make an addict to change his life and if you will be soft with him - he will be only happy that someone cares of him. But if you make him to work hard, to change the life - he willn`t like it, but it will help him to win this battle.
As one more moment - he must understand himself, that there is another life - without gambling. Help him to find a job, give advice - that`s all, until he begin change his life himself.

Getting him a job only might not help him/her from being an addict. Although the job can keep him busy, thereby making him to have less time for gamble. I think talking to him about his addicted problem can go a long way to help him out.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Quidat on February 01, 2024, 11:46:09 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
To get rid of a gambling addict I have to be strict first because the gambling addict needs to understand that I am very strict about gambling. Then he should be treated politely and gently and gradually convince him that gambling is very bad and gambling should be used only for entertainment. He needs to be convinced in such a way that he gradually understands and gives up gambling. I think if a gambling addict can be properly explained in this way then surely he will get rid of gambling addiction.
There are people who dont really like on being that forcibly having that type of approach on which it cant really be able to resolve out such possible addiction whether its outside or inside the family members on which it would really be just that depending whether on how you would really be able to assess and would be able to handle such situation or condition.
If one of the family members is suffering on such addiction then it would really be just that normal that you would really be having that kind of sense of responsibility on helping them out.
We do know the cons and problems that gambling addiction could cause into someones personal life and since its inside the family then it would affect the family as a whole.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: lienfaye on February 02, 2024, 12:45:02 AM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
IMO regardless of what you choose both can be effective. The point is, your goal is to keep this family member away from gambling so if it means you have to be harsh because that's more effective then so be it. Anyway, for me I prefer the number one, because gambling is not a sin. It's just that, this family member needs to learn his lesson to realize that what he's doing is not healthy anymore for himself and for his family. He needs support and guidance, someone that can understand the situation and will encourage him to change.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Rufsilf on February 02, 2024, 02:53:46 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
To get rid of a gambling addict I have to be strict first because the gambling addict needs to understand that I am very strict about gambling. Then he should be treated politely and gently and gradually convince him that gambling is very bad and gambling should be used only for entertainment. He needs to be convinced in such a way that he gradually understands and gives up gambling. I think if a gambling addict can be properly explained in this way then surely he will get rid of gambling addiction.
There are people who dont really like on being that forcibly having that type of approach on which it cant really be able to resolve out such possible addiction whether its outside or inside the family members on which it would really be just that depending whether on how you would really be able to assess and would be able to handle such situation or condition.
If one of the family members is suffering on such addiction then it would really be just that normal that you would really be having that kind of sense of responsibility on helping them out.
We do know the cons and problems that gambling addiction could cause into someones personal life and since its inside the family then it would affect the family as a whole.
True, since I believe that treating a gambler addict like a family member as suggested by @2Pizza410000BTC would set them off, making them feel as though they are being attacked, criticized, or humiliated, which will make them more resistant to changing their ways. Naturally, as a family member, I agree with you that it is only normal for us to support a loved one who is battling a gambling addiction. Ultimately, though, the gambling-addicted family member must take responsibility for managing their addiction. In other words, we have a big part to play in helping the addict get well. For example, we can offer them emotional support and motivate them to make changes that will benefit them personally. Let's sometimes put aside our own feelings and actions to avoid making snap judgments or saying hurtful things that could exacerbate their behavior. Therefore, it is preferable that we should be cautious and deliberate before taking action.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: CODE200 on February 02, 2024, 05:00:50 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
For me, it's a combination of both soft and hard way is what's going to make things work for that family member, you can't really force them all the way to recovery because when something is forced into someone, it will always be met with some resistance and on the other hand, being too soft would make it seem that what you're doing for them isn't serious and that they can just ignore you. Think of helping an addict relative like you're holding someone's hand, it should be gentle yet firm so basically you tell them with a strict voice that you are going to give them a limit and that if they will reach that, they'll have to consider rehabilitation and that they should change for the better, tell them how much it breaks your heart that they're like this and that they can't stand you being like this, play on their emotions, if they still have any then they'll be able to tap on to that and use that as an inspiration for change, giving them support on their rehab is going to be a big thing.

Now that you mentioned developing countries, another problem that they should face would be that not everybody has enough money to pay a specialist to help him/her, so I suppose that the problem is harder to solve there because of poverty, not to mention social stigma linked to believing that only insane people need therapy.

In such cases, family and friends should prioritize and save the money to pay for the therapy. The good thing is that a consultation is often cheaper there than in other regions of the world, but tools and attention might be worse too.
There's enough money alright, they just don't want to invest in it because they've got other things to do, remember that US could easily solve their homeless crisis with a small amount of funds from their military spending but they don't do it because there's no profit that they can get out of solving homelessness and it's the same thing with mental health, what would an influential and developing country can do with mentally clarified and healthy people anyway? They can just use that would be money for solving mental health crisis to fund their trading and increase their GDP. I wouldn't agree that there's a stigma in mental health anymore maybe back then there is but with the prevalence of suicide and a lot of mental health awareness I don't think that there's going to be a lot of people that are stigmatizing when it comes to mental health. Therapy is a helpful thing especially for mental traumas and damages, if applied correctly that person is going to be going back to what society perceives as normal and at the same time make it so that person that was healed through therapy wouldn't be of harm to others and themselves.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: rodskee on February 02, 2024, 05:32:12 AM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
IMO regardless of what you choose both can be effective. The point is, your goal is to keep this family member away from gambling so if it means you have to be harsh because that's more effective then so be it. Anyway, for me I prefer the number one, because gambling is not a sin. It's just that, this family member needs to learn his lesson to realize that what he's doing is not healthy anymore for himself and for his family. He needs support and guidance, someone that can understand the situation and will encourage him to change.
it can be effective depending on how the involved will response because even how good or better
 we do to help yet its those addicted gamblers choice to make it happen so yeah it is always depending on them .
if they finally get to understand what is happening then that is the time to help because if not all our effort
will be nothing for them.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Kakmakr on February 02, 2024, 06:24:07 AM
Well first of all, an addict must admit that they have a problem. A lot of them are in denial, because they think it is under control and they can manage it by themselves.

You can only step into a supportive role, if you understand what you are dealing with. Some people have other issues that needs to be dealt with first, before the gambling addiction can be tackled.

A lot of people do not have the skills and the knowledge to support people with gambling problems, so they must equipt themselves first, before they step into that role. ( You might be part of the problem or your misguided attempts might make it worst)

Seek proffesional help, if you think that you are too emotionally involved or not equipt to help someone. There are people out there that are trained to handle people like this.

Good luck, with whatever path you decide to take.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: redsun114 on February 02, 2024, 06:54:35 AM
The second option should be kept aside as you can't force someone to do something, even if you manage to do that and if they do it because you are forcing them, they won't leave it and get out of the addiction because they will find a way to do that thing in your absence, so it isn't a permanent solution.

So I would say the best way is to talk to them with love and affection, let them know in calmness that gambling isn't good for them and they need to take a break and get out of the addiction as it will only ruin their life and future. I'm pretty sure that a normal person would understand if they were told something out of love instead of forcing something on them. So, I believe the first method will be the most effective one in this case.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Zoomic on February 02, 2024, 07:43:42 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

The only solution here is constant persuasion because you cannot help someone that does not see the need for help. Try to make them see reasons why they should be helped.

 Some addictions makes one feel so excited and satisfied that they begin to see whatever they are addicted to as the only way. Any addicted gambler who is yet to realise that he is in trouble already will be too difficult to be helped because whatever solution you bring might not be followed duely by the gambler, you need the addicted gambler's cooperation for any help you intend to render to work.

Using a very harsh tone will not yield results, rather it would make them become even more secretive about their activities. If they won't change after a calm persuasion done out of love, I will leave them with the option of learning from their own mistakes themselves. Experience they say is the best teacher.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Bitinity on February 02, 2024, 07:56:20 AM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
You have answered your question yourself, in other words it depends on the addicted person. If you know him personally, you know which method you should use to help him. Some people may use both to know which one will give more effects so I think there is no best between these 2 methods because soft method may work for some people but gentle method may work for some others.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on February 02, 2024, 08:38:41 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

          -   Of course, obviously, the one I choose is no. 1. If it's possible not to be harsh, that's what we should do, and besides, that person is still part of the family. The fact that his own family shows him love can be a tool for him to change; you know what that means.

As they say, good overcomes evil. If he has done something bad for himself, let's still show him a reminder of the love he will feel for the family, of course, when he sees that he will feel of self-shame or realization.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: arwin100 on February 02, 2024, 08:42:49 AM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
You have answered your question yourself, in other words it depends on the addicted person. If you know him personally, you know which method you should use to help him. Some people may use both to know which one will give more effects so I think there is no best between these 2 methods because soft method may work for some people but gentle method may work for some others.

It really depends on addicted person on how they cooperate since if they are in level where they are still controllable then provably they would listen to advice given to them.
But if they are resistant already maybe this approach would never be effective and we could try those methods listed or suggested by people since there's one of those should work since no people would stay addicted if they are properly guided or they see that someone is concern on their welfare.

But any of those will never work since the level of addiction is so high then I guess its time to seek professional help since for sure they have solid solution to help people to get aide on gambling addiction what they are experiencing.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Volimack on February 02, 2024, 09:46:05 AM
Which method will be applied will depend on the situation of the addicted person. No. 2 would not be appropriate to apply as strict with gamblers may make them worse. Not all situations are safe for them if they are highly addicted. They should be well understood that it is not possible to do anything by force. It is better to treat them like a family and understand them about good and bad. It is not right to force anything.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Synchronice on February 02, 2024, 10:10:44 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?
First of all, rip off is not the right term to use because, I think you wanted to say how to get rid of an addict from your family. But I think get rid of is not the best case, how to help an addict is a better one.

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Being harsh will only make that person feel sad and they'll only try to isolate, that will probably lead to suicide or a state of hopelessness but being very kind is not an option too because they won't be able to feel the responsibility on their shoulders and will most likely ignore what you say. You have to be both, kind and harsh, you have to decide the moment when it's better to act kind and when it's better to be harsh. An addict person should feel support and care from you but should also feel the pressure that something is going wrong in their life and they need to fix it ASAP and you are here to supper them.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Fredomago on February 02, 2024, 10:36:25 AM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
You have answered your question yourself, in other words it depends on the addicted person. If you know him personally, you know which method you should use to help him. Some people may use both to know which one will give more effects so I think there is no best between these 2 methods because soft method may work for some people but gentle method may work for some others.

It really depends on addicted person on how they cooperate since if they are in level where they are still controllable then provably they would listen to advice given to them.
But if they are resistant already maybe this approach would never be effective and we could try those methods listed or suggested by people since there's one of those should work since no people would stay addicted if they are properly guided or they see that someone is concern on their welfare.

But any of those will never work since the level of addiction is so high then I guess its time to seek professional help since for sure they have solid solution to help people to get aide on gambling addiction what they are experiencing.

If there's nothing else that can be done to help the person, seeking for prosfessionals will help to find ways if what type of an approach might work, knowing the classification of that specific addicted person will give an idea to the professional to assess if what kind of treatment is needed.

Though, its still that strong-will coming to that person itself which is needed to help him to achieve goals in removing him from this kind of an issue, with proper ways of helping you will be able to help.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: mak013 on February 02, 2024, 11:13:15 AM
As for me - only the second way. It is difficult to make an addict to change his life and if you will be soft with him - he will be only happy that someone cares of him. But if you make him to work hard, to change the life - he willn`t like it, but it will help him to win this battle.
As one more moment - he must understand himself, that there is another life - without gambling. Help him to find a job, give advice - that`s all, until he begin change his life himself.
For someone to being a gambling addict is a normal thing and we don't have to keep accusing the person or disrespecting them because of gambling. Sometimes we can keep asking questions of how far the person had been betting and what's there plan in the future.
We can always laugh and spend frequent time with the person. The love only can make the person comes closer and start gisting with us.
It's all about time and with friendship, helping the person gamble healthy without too thinking of what to bet on again.
If i understand the OP right, it isn`t a normal thing for him. Of course i can laugh and sped frequent time with such man, but if it isn`t my mate or my family. And anyway i can agree with you that even in such situation gambling addiction may be ok, if it isn`t a problem for his friends and family. But when it becomes a problem - i think only second way - hard work and total control.


As for me - only the second way. It is difficult to make an addict to change his life and if you will be soft with him - he will be only happy that someone cares of him. But if you make him to work hard, to change the life - he willn`t like it, but it will help him to win this battle.
As one more moment - he must understand himself, that there is another life - without gambling. Help him to find a job, give advice - that`s all, until he begin change his life himself.

Getting him a job only might not help him/her from being an addict. Although the job can keep him busy, thereby making him to have less time for gamble. I think talking to him about his addicted problem can go a long way to help him out.
Yes, i agree, and of course we need to control him for a long time. But it can become the first step to change life.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Unbunplease on February 02, 2024, 05:41:46 PM
Fighting a gambling addiction is quite a complicated process. And if the player is successful - there is not much point in struggling; it is enough just to regulate the amount of time by setting certain limits. If the player is not successful, then it may be necessary to use special psychological help, to exclude the possibility of getting credits, and to strictly limit the amount of money he can lose


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: fapar on February 02, 2024, 06:40:13 PM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
You have answered your question yourself, in other words it depends on the addicted person. If you know him personally, you know which method you should use to help him. Some people may use both to know which one will give more effects so I think there is no best between these 2 methods because soft method may work for some people but gentle method may work for some others.
You can only try to replace gambling with another source of serotonin/dopamine. Psychological help alone will not help and family members can only indirectly influence the situation. If all else fails, then you just need to quit such a gambling addict.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Odusko on February 02, 2024, 07:01:38 PM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
You have answered your question yourself, in other words it depends on the addicted person. If you know him personally, you know which method you should use to help him. Some people may use both to know which one will give more effects so I think there is no best between these 2 methods because soft method may work for some people but the gentle method may work for some others.
The thing is ths, addiction is a personal problem and only the addicts have the sole willpower to get over the addictions and this is why many times even as a close person to the addicts it becomes hard for you to be able to influence them out of their situation, because of that it is better to always allow the addict himself to get to a stage where he already builds the will power to get out of the addictions.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: passwordnow on February 02, 2024, 08:52:13 PM
If you'll be hard on them make sure that they're on the soft side and they aren't emotional and they're on their right mind. Because if you're hard on them and they're also on the hard feelings because the loss that they've made is just fresh then it's not going to click and that might even complicate the situation. And that's why I agree with people that are saying that you should be soft to them.

Being hard on them might push them away from listening to you and they might do the opposite. There are people like that even if you show them your concern, they won't obliged and appreciate it so it's best to approach them nicely because that's what I think they'll remember your advise instead of being harsh on them. They might feel that they're targeted because they're active gamblers.

But those addicted gamblers probably have a different approach when accepting someone's advise and if these guys don't appreciate the soft and harsh advises on them, the real problem is really them and they should see on how these people trying to help them get out of addiction instead of having a bad thought about them for which they don't have any ill intention on them.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Kavelj22 on February 02, 2024, 08:57:21 PM
You can only help those who want to be helped. A gambling addict has to admit that he's an addict and be willing to stop before he can be helped. When he has made a conscious effort to stop them it will be easier to help out.

There's no point in being harsh to an addict. If it was easy for them to not be an addict they would have. It's not easy so you have to be gentle with him.
Being harsh on people is just another way of pushing people far away from you and you can't help a person if the person is far away.
You just have to keep making sure he's loved and not judged. Don't judge them.
This doesn't mean you won't tell them their fuck up to their face. Be honest with them, don't sugarcoat anything, but be gentle. Love them. Love is the only thing that can help. Create trust between the both of you, let the person know you're there for them.

First, they have to be able to admit that they are addicted to gambling, because usually those who are addicted to gambling don't want to admit that they are addicted to gambling. also with them addicted to gambling they will not easily accept advice from others. It's true what you said, they will be easily helped if they admit they are addicted and have their own advice, but if they don't have their own awareness then in my opinion it will be difficult even if they are helped by other people or their closest family.

To be honest, when someone is addicted to gambling, his family will definitely do their best by gently helping him, but as time goes by, if the addict doesn't change, then it is likely that the family will also raise their hand to help him. because I myself am fed up of advising my friend who is addicted to gambling, so now I just let him, let him experience an incident that will make him realize it by himself. After he has his own awareness then maybe advice from other people can be accepted well.

Treating drug addiction is a complex process that requires a variety of methods and techniques. Common methods of treating addiction patients include psychological and behavioral therapy sessions, social and family support, as well as assistance with lifestyle changes and learning strategies to reduce stress and temptations. Health accompaniment is considered one of the basics in the treatment process, and family and friends have an important role in supporting and assisting the patient.
It may also include drug treatments and integrated medical supervision to help alleviate withdrawal symptoms and maintain psychological and physical stability. By supporting the patient with skills and tools they can use to overcome addiction, positive long-term outcomes can be achieved.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: goldkingcoiner on February 02, 2024, 09:01:29 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

I think that talking to them, whether harsh or not about it, is not really going to help them quit. The only way a gambling addict, or in fact any kind of addict, is going to put themselves on the road towards recovery is if she or he wants that. External pressure will do nothing but anger them. Although you should be strict with them. Do not under any circumstances enable them by giving them money for their addiction. Addicts are well known to act irrationally. But that is just human nature.

Some peoples problems are deeper than others. Everyone needs their own style of therapy to heal their wounds.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 02, 2024, 09:06:58 PM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
You have answered your question yourself, in other words it depends on the addicted person. If you know him personally, you know which method you should use to help him. Some people may use both to know which one will give more effects so I think there is no best between these 2 methods because soft method may work for some people but the gentle method may work for some others.
To thing is ths, addiction is a personal problem and only the addicts have the sole willpower to get over the addictions and this is why many times even as a close person to the addicts it becomes hard for you to be able to influence them out of their situation, because of that it is better to always allow the addict himself to get to a stage where he already builds the will power to get out of the addictions.



Sometimes it is not easy to get out of an addiction problem as it is Believed , or as they say, yes, in part the Person who suffers from the Addiction has to put in his full Effort and will so that his things can see that addiction is a problem that It has to Affect that person and those around them, that one's own will to be cured is essential for that morale to be very high, but in part what must be done is that the people Around them can have a lot to do with it. What they can do for them , forExample a parent who goes to a psychologist can help a person a lot in that sense, not only can sometimes you get out of it, the people who are all the time looking for a way to Overcome this have to have help, sometimes they need someone's push to get out of what they are in , we as People who are intelligent, why should we see the niche of the rpobelma from every point of View , we Know that the will is Something that is must have , but its own to Review Everything that the treatment can generate.

People who are very Addicted lose their self-esteem , lose their security and Sometimes lose Sense of responsibility by indulging in addiction, who knows who is to blame? Is it the casinos fault? No, it's not the fault of the case or the game, that's primarily the addiction because the person allows it to happen, because they don't know how to stop themselves and put the most important things before their life, nor does a person who needs it have to do so much. your money in a casino, because it is something that is not viable, so in this order of ideas things should not be seen in that sense I was able to say that when we are looking for more ways to overcome things, an addicted Person sometimes needs good advice from a friend, good treatment, for the person to Recover psychologically from what they are suffering from, to get back to it,  his confidence and his way of solving problems.



Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Wiwo on February 02, 2024, 09:42:32 PM
Fighting a gambling addiction is quite a complicated process. And if the player is successful - there is not much point in struggling; it is enough just to regulate the amount of time by setting certain limits. If the player is not successful, then it may be necessary to use special psychological help, to exclude the possibility of getting credits, and to strictly limit the amount of money he can lose
Yes regulations is the best point to begin with,  because many times,  why some addicts fails in the attempt to get out of that addictions is the fact that they go all in at once trying to quite at once and this could become counter productive since addiction will always fight back,  but if the addict start by limiting his activities and setting out a formula to follow all the time until he be able to get out of the addictions,  this will most likely help him a lot to have a slow and steady withdrawal process that could be free of residing back to the addictions.

Agree that the fight against addiction is a very big one and at that we need to put everything in place as an individual to help us to make the best form of decisions when it comes to withdrawing from addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: o48o on February 02, 2024, 10:18:57 PM
Sometimes it is not easy to get out of an addiction problem as it is Believed , or as they say, yes, in part the Person who suffers from the Addiction has to put in his full Effort and will so that his things can see that addiction is a problem that It has to Affect that person and those around them, that one's own will to be cured is essential for that morale to be very high, but in part what must be done is that the people Around them can have a lot to do with it. What they can do for them , forExample a parent who goes to a psychologist can help a person a lot in that sense, not only can sometimes you get out of it, the people who are all the time looking for a way to Overcome this have to have help, sometimes they need someone's push to get out of what they are in , we as People who are intelligent, why should we see the niche of the rpobelma from every point of View , we Know that the will is Something that is must have , but its own to Review Everything that the treatment can generate.

People who are very Addicted lose their self-esteem , lose their security and Sometimes lose Sense of responsibility by indulging in addiction, who knows who is to blame? Is it the casinos fault? No, it's not the fault of the case or the game, that's primarily the addiction because the person allows it to happen, because they don't know how to stop themselves and put the most important things before their life, nor does a person who needs it have to do so much. your money in a casino, because it is something that is not viable, so in this order of ideas things should not be seen in that sense I was able to say that when we are looking for more ways to overcome things, an addicted Person sometimes needs good advice from a friend, good treatment, for the person to Recover psychologically from what they are suffering from, to get back to it,  his confidence and his way of solving problems.
It's never easy to get out, and we could even ask a question if there's a choice involved. When people are sick and have fever, we rarely blame them for being sick. Addiction is a sickness as well why would we treat them any different? But finding the blame is what humans tend to do, as they see this an issue with someone doing something wrong from their own free will. You are spot on that treatment is necessary, because these people need help. They obviously can't just snap out of it or they would have already done it. Reasoning addict can be very frustrating because they are not following same rules, and often have delusions of grandeur about their own capabilities and future.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: khaled0111 on February 02, 2024, 10:38:46 PM
When people are sick and have fever, we rarely blame them for being sick. Addiction is a sickness as well why would we treat them any different?
The problem is not in being an addict (sick as you described it) but rather in refusing to acknowledge it and refusing to undergo treatment and taking medicine.
I understand that treating someone harshly or being mad at him may have a counter effect but in some cases you have no other option. It must be the last resort after exhausting all other options, though.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Unbunplease on February 03, 2024, 03:01:58 AM
Yes regulations is the best point to begin with,  because many times,  why some addicts fails in the attempt to get out of that addictions is the fact that they go all in at once trying to quite at once and this could become counter productive since addiction will always fight back,  but if the addict start by limiting his activities and setting out a formula to follow all the time until he be able to get out of the addictions,  this will most likely help him a lot to have a slow and steady withdrawal process that could be free of residing back to the addictions.

Agree that the fight against addiction is a very big one and at that we need to put everything in place as an individual to help us to make the best form of decisions when it comes to withdrawing from addiction.

The most dangerous in terms of regulating gambling addiction is offline casinos. The casino owners specifically create such an atmosphere in which players almost completely forget about caution. Various special substances are used here, as well as a lot of psychological stimuli


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: virasog on February 03, 2024, 05:06:28 AM
1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Both of the above points suggest that we need to be soft with the gambling addicts and need to convince them politely that gambling addiction is bad and hard for them. The problem here may be that the gamblers won't admit that they are addicted to gambling in the first place and hence it may be hard for us to convivence them to limit gambling activities.


Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

Being hard to the gambling addict can make him further aggressive and if he is the elder member of the house, then this can create more complications. I also agree that telling him softly the cons of gambling is good enough but at the same time, we need to find him activities where he can remain busy and hence not find much time for gambling. Distracting anyone from gambling may not be as easy as it seems.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: wallet4bitcoin on February 03, 2024, 06:14:09 AM
If I have an addict that stays around me and I want to help him, i will first attack his mentality towards and about gambling.

There are obvious stories about gambling that he might not have heard about, I will even create negative imaginations about the downsides of gambling and next will be to engage him as a form of distraction from the regular gambling activities.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Pandu Geddon on February 03, 2024, 06:18:04 AM
Being hard to the gambling addict can make him further aggressive and if he is the elder member of the house, then this can create more complications. I also agree that telling him softly the cons of gambling is good enough but at the same time, we need to find him activities where he can remain busy and hence not find much time for gambling. Distracting anyone from gambling may not be as easy as it seems.

especially if the addict still holds his own money. Diverting yourself from being busy is quite effective. but for gambling addicts who may already be experiencing financial problems. he will think making money is more important than gambling. although addicts will think about making money from gambling. but when he is busy enough with other work activities that also make money. a gambling addict may gradually become aware of better activities for him to do.
he also had to think about making money for gambling capital. When an addict doesn't get a supply of funds to play gambling, he will experience pressure himself without having to be warned strongly.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: 3kpk3 on February 03, 2024, 07:07:05 AM
If I have an addict that stays around me and I want to help him, i will first attack his mentality towards and about gambling.

There are obvious stories about gambling that he might not have heard about, I will even create negative imaginations about the downsides of gambling and next will be to engage him as a form of distraction from the regular gambling activities.
It's definitely not as simple as you think. Your approach could drive them into a frenzy making matters worse which is why this isn't the most efficient strategy and I am speaking from experience.

A calm and patient approach is required to deal with such addicts in my opinion. Think!


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: junder on February 03, 2024, 08:13:32 AM
You can only help those who want to be helped. A gambling addict has to admit that he's an addict and be willing to stop before he can be helped. When he has made a conscious effort to stop them it will be easier to help out.

There's no point in being harsh to an addict. If it was easy for them to not be an addict they would have. It's not easy so you have to be gentle with him.
Being harsh on people is just another way of pushing people far away from you and you can't help a person if the person is far away.
You just have to keep making sure he's loved and not judged. Don't judge them.
This doesn't mean you won't tell them their fuck up to their face. Be honest with them, don't sugarcoat anything, but be gentle. Love them. Love is the only thing that can help. Create trust between the both of you, let the person know you're there for them.

First, they have to be able to admit that they are addicted to gambling, because usually those who are addicted to gambling don't want to admit that they are addicted to gambling. also with them addicted to gambling they will not easily accept advice from others. It's true what you said, they will be easily helped if they admit they are addicted and have their own advice, but if they don't have their own awareness then in my opinion it will be difficult even if they are helped by other people or their closest family.

To be honest, when someone is addicted to gambling, his family will definitely do their best by gently helping him, but as time goes by, if the addict doesn't change, then it is likely that the family will also raise their hand to help him. because I myself am fed up of advising my friend who is addicted to gambling, so now I just let him, let him experience an incident that will make him realize it by himself. After he has his own awareness then maybe advice from other people can be accepted well.

Treating drug addiction is a complex process that requires a variety of methods and techniques. Common methods of treating addiction patients include psychological and behavioral therapy sessions, social and family support, as well as assistance with lifestyle changes and learning strategies to reduce stress and temptations. Health accompaniment is considered one of the basics in the treatment process, and family and friends have an important role in supporting and assisting the patient.
It may also include drug treatments and integrated medical supervision to help alleviate withdrawal symptoms and maintain psychological and physical stability. By supporting the patient with skills and tools they can use to overcome addiction, positive long-term outcomes can be achieved.

That's true, also in my opinion to be able to stop gambling addiction is not easy, they have to go through many processes which may be difficult for them. and it's true that maybe they will need psychological therapy, because in my opinion people who are addicted to gambling tend to have changes in attitudes and behavior and that is also because their thinking has been greatly influenced by gambling, after that there is encouragement from the family which will definitely help them to be able to stop gambling. because suggestions and input are also important as long as they can receive them well.

However, in my opinion, quitting addiction well enough to be truly clean cannot be done or happen in a short period of time, as you said, it might be successful in the long term, because it seems like it is possible to recover from addiction. It takes a long period of time, it's impossible for it to happen in a short period of time, and most people who want to recover from gambling addiction rarely succeed if they don't wholeheartedly want to stop gambling. In my opinion, even if they fail to recover from their gambling addiction, they will return to gambling and may become more aggressive in their gambling or may get worse. In my opinion, the key is in themselves who must believe wholeheartedly and be consistent in carrying it out.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: rodskee on February 03, 2024, 09:35:45 AM
If I have an addict that stays around me and I want to help him, i will first attack his mentality towards and about gambling.

There are obvious stories about gambling that he might not have heard about, I will even create negative imaginations about the downsides of gambling and next will be to engage him as a form of distraction from the regular gambling activities.
It's definitely not as simple as you think. Your approach could drive them into a frenzy making matters worse which is why this isn't the most efficient strategy and I am speaking from experience.

A calm and patient approach is required to deal with such addicts in my opinion. Think!
Calm will also result for them to think that they can go over you and in time you might not know that you are already following them into being a gambler lol.
most of addicted people does not know calmness instead they are looking for things that can easily supply them what they need and what they can earn from that addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: piebeyb on February 03, 2024, 09:46:57 AM
If I have an addict that stays around me and I want to help him, i will first attack his mentality towards and about gambling.

There are obvious stories about gambling that he might not have heard about, I will even create negative imaginations about the downsides of gambling and next will be to engage him as a form of distraction from the regular gambling activities.
It's definitely not as simple as you think. Your approach could drive them into a frenzy making matters worse which is why this isn't the most efficient strategy and I am speaking from experience.

A calm and patient approach is required to deal with such addicts in my opinion. Think!
Yes, harsh methods will not help at all, even though some may be successful, but they are not completely successful, in fact they are depressed by the situation. If they use harsh methods, because I have seen it firsthand, it actually burdens the addict, becomes more stressed and can experience madness, so the method What is effective is to approach it calmly and patiently because changing habits is not as easy as we imagine, just like if you get used to eating rice every day and then if you don't eat rice the next day, forcing yourself actually ends up torturing yourself.

There are stages and processes that must be gone through in healing people who are addicted to gambling, especially if they are part of our family, those closest to us who always meet all the time, so it just takes time to slowly switch them to other, more positive activities and try to reduce their gambling slowly. , don't ask him to stop quickly but direct him to reduce it gradually and slowly, usually it will work after going through the process correctly. It's okay if it takes a long time, at least it won't stress him out.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: peter0425 on February 03, 2024, 10:01:38 AM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
You have answered your question yourself, in other words it depends on the addicted person. If you know him personally, you know which method you should use to help him. Some people may use both to know which one will give more effects so I think there is no best between these 2 methods because soft method may work for some people but gentle method may work for some others.
correct as OP mentioned it is one of them living in the house meaning family member and if this is correct then they must know how to handle that person , with either by force or by calmness yet this is their call , w are not even  the person involved or living with Him so how can we answer this.

and better to wait for that addict to seek for help , because they are mostly hard to handle not until they realized what they are missing and understand the call of helping.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Gozie51 on February 03, 2024, 10:51:17 AM
If I have an addict that stays around me and I want to help him, i will first attack his mentality towards and about gambling.

There are obvious stories about gambling that he might not have heard about, I will even create negative imaginations about the downsides of gambling and next will be to engage him as a form of distraction from the regular gambling activities.

A calmer approach is what is needed to create a solution for the addict to go out of his dilemma and not to cause more problem by attacking his mentality. I guess by attacking his mentality you probably meant to tell him negative stories but I bet you such addict have perhaps heard such stories and doesn't have the capacity to stop themselves. Therefore, it goes beyond telling stories but a action, a suiting action that he won't know you are working to take him out and before you know it he is already out of addiction.

No addict wants you to use force on them and if you try and fail, you would probably not get the opportunity to try again because they will keep some distance away from you and try to avoid you, including seeing you as an enemy that is trying to deprive them of their winning as they feel any time they try, they are close to winning which is why they hardly give up by themselves.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on February 03, 2024, 01:24:54 PM
If I have an addict that stays around me and I want to help him, i will first attack his mentality towards and about gambling.

There are obvious stories about gambling that he might not have heard about, I will even create negative imaginations about the downsides of gambling and next will be to engage him as a form of distraction from the regular gambling activities.

A calmer approach is what is needed to create a solution for the addict to go out of his dilemma and not to cause more problem by attacking his mentality. I guess by attacking his mentality you probably meant to tell him negative stories but I bet you such addict have perhaps heard such stories and doesn't have the capacity to stop themselves. Therefore, it goes beyond telling stories but a action, a suiting action that he won't know you are working to take him out and before you know it he is already out of addiction.

No addict wants you to use force on them and if you try and fail, you would probably not get the opportunity to try again because they will keep some distance away from you and try to avoid you, including seeing you as an enemy that is trying to deprive them of their winning as they feel any time they try, they are close to winning which is why they hardly give up by themselves.

I agree with you, but let me also point out that, it is very important for a gambler who is addicted to say that he or she needs help, before we decide to extent a helping hand to such a person,  going out of the street, and then seeing someone who is addicted to gambling, and throwing ourselves at him or her, in a bid to help that gambler may not always end well.
The only time I think we can offer such unsolicited help is when the person we are trying or wanting to help is a family member who is in close commission with us, or a best or very close friend or ours.

I say this because, some people are addicted to gambling and still enjoy playing it, most especially, those who are working or doing business and making just as good as enough money for themselves, and aside from being addicted to gambling, to them, gambling is also a way they ease off stress of that day after their activities at work or business place.
So, to want to advice such person to leave gambling either by force or by mild, when they did not ask for such help, could be you making yourself their enemy.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Dickiy on February 03, 2024, 01:54:27 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Personally I would do both stages. The first is to be gentle by advising him that excessive gambling to the point of addiction will ruin everything. So, I gave warnings and advice like that 2 or 3 times. If there is still no change and gambling becomes more and more chaotic, harsh measures will definitely be taken to teach him a lesson. However, rude here means that the intention is good, not rude like hitting or slapping. but rather a firm attitude to pressure himself to think clearly. If his firm attitude is still not followed, the final option is to leave it alone until he feels the impact for himself.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: alastantiger on February 03, 2024, 02:08:52 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

What do you think?
Neglect makes people go into gambling and they end up being addicts. The feeling of loneliness can make people go into gambling and become addicts. Both neglect and loneliness can result in mental illness. Love, care, and a feeling of acceptance and importance can help a person addicted to gambling overcome it if it is done genuinely and from a place of wanting to see the addict recover. This is what I would do and the person doesn't have to be a family, I can do it for a friend who I care about deeply.

Using harsh words, teasing, mocking can never be an effective strategy. Rather it would make the addict gamble more.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Shamm on February 03, 2024, 02:32:15 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

For me it's little bit hard and challenging if we will help one of our family members away from gambling cause there's a chance that they will get angry with us but it won't happen if we slowly teach them how to leave in addiction we should have them a good and true happiness outside in gambling world. Cause addiction is very serious illness  its too hard to handle it self so we need some people to help out in a gambling world.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: bittraffic on February 03, 2024, 03:49:02 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

What do you think?
Neglect makes people go into gambling and they end up being addicts. The feeling of loneliness can make people go into gambling and become addicts. Both neglect and loneliness can result in mental illness. Love, care, and a feeling of acceptance and importance can help a person addicted to gambling overcome it if it is done genuinely and from a place of wanting to see the addict recover. This is what I would do and the person doesn't have to be a family, I can do it for a friend who I care about deeply.

Using harsh words, teasing, mocking can never be an effective strategy. Rather it would make the addict gamble more.

Hard to actually corner an addict to give up his rights unless this person is dependent.

People have different personalities. Not leaving him alone can be interpreted by this person as invading his privacy and it could take another turn which could lead him to get aggressive and in the end, instead of him getting him to avoid gambling, this will lead to a bitter quarrel. Either of the methods can be interpreted by this person as invading his privacy.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: EarnOnVictor on February 03, 2024, 04:54:33 PM
Yes regulations is the best point to begin with,  because many times,  why some addicts fails in the attempt to get out of that addictions is the fact that they go all in at once trying to quite at once and this could become counter productive since addiction will always fight back,  but if the addict start by limiting his activities and setting out a formula to follow all the time until he be able to get out of the addictions,  this will most likely help him a lot to have a slow and steady withdrawal process that could be free of residing back to the addictions.

Agree that the fight against addiction is a very big one and at that we need to put everything in place as an individual to help us to make the best form of decisions when it comes to withdrawing from addiction.

The most dangerous in terms of regulating gambling addiction is offline casinos. The casino owners specifically create such an atmosphere in which players almost completely forget about caution. Various special substances are used here, as well as a lot of psychological stimuli
This is why we should try to be aware before we sink, and it is not all offline casinos that are this risky though. I've been to many of them, it is just about the class of the ones you go for, and their ugly intentions to make money by all means which matters. But this shouldn't be an issue for the smart guy, even if you are a victim once depending on the different locality you found yourself in, this should not repeat itself if you are wise. No matter what I see in casinos whether big or scam, classy or less, I make sure that I do not forget my brain. I am always getting myself aware of the issues that could arise from the casinos, so any amount of temptation can't work on me, at least except they drug me which is highly unlikely.

Whether it is women, alcohol or other, I do not go beyond my limit, and that is if I want to partake in anything that might affect my psychology because I know that it is never good for my next line of action especially if I am with enough money with it. Above all, I keep my head straight anywhere I go and focus on the purpose of going there. I trust myself, the moment I know that things are getting awkward, no amount of persuasion can make me stay since I know that any action I take after then is not me who took it. So why remain there? For this, I think it is partly about us in this situation.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on February 03, 2024, 05:16:08 PM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Gambling is a conscious physical habit, and the only way to stop a conscious habit is a conscious deliberate decision by people around or the addict himself to stop or moderate the way he/she gambles. So in regards to this question O.P just asked, for me, I will say that the best approach to helping a family member who is a gambling addict is first "Advise him/her" about the potential harm his/her addiction is liable to cause him in the near future, while preventing him from having access to gadgets likely to aid him gamble (i.e phones, laptop and the internet) in a lovingly and respectfully manner, and not being harsh.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: angrybirdy on February 04, 2024, 06:07:25 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
if I'm in the situation and I have a relative who is experiencing gambling addiction, I would choose number 1 among the choices, because it will help more if we find out what that person is feeling and we must know what is the source of why they reach to the point of becoming addicted to gambling. It will help them think and feel better if we talk to them properly and give advice based on what their current situation is, because when we force someone to stop gambling, or we always scold them or being a nagger to them, they might just be more triggered to continue gambling because of the pressure and stress they will feel. so no matter what situation they are in, let's choose to be calm and understanding.



Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Mauser on February 04, 2024, 07:55:19 AM

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.


I have no personal experience with gambling addictions, but I have family members that were addicted to drugs, cigarettes and alcohol. What I can tell from personal experience is that a soft approach is not working, because the addict will just take advantage of the soft demeanor in the family and use any loopholes to continue with his addiction. Of course it's important to talk with the addict and try to get him on your side, we need to make him see that he is on the wrong path and needs to change his life. The problem with addiction is that you can spend 90% of the day fighting it successful, only to ruin everything in a weak moment. In my opinion it would be much better to have a harsh approach and really try to change his actions.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: boty on February 04, 2024, 08:09:50 AM
For me it's little bit hard and challenging if we will help one of our family members away from gambling cause there's a chance that they will get angry with us but it won't happen if we slowly teach them how to leave in addiction we should have them a good and true happiness outside in gambling world. Cause addiction is very serious illness  its too hard to handle it self so we need some people to help out in a gambling world.
I think it is impossible to advise those who have experienced gambling addiction and we tell them to stop gambling that they will scold us and will never listen to what we tell them about the gambling they have done has had a bad impact on themselves. If they want to leave their own gambling addiction then other people can suggest to stop and give them advice because if they don't want to stop then other people will not be able to stop their gambling activities.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: stadus on February 04, 2024, 08:14:14 AM
The approach is defending on the person that is addicted, we should know better what kind of atttitude he has because he  is within our home, a familiy member. My approach on this is I will not be harsh, this kind of person needs to get the compassion so he'll surrender his burden, yes, addiction is a burden as that's simply unable to control ourselves and all we do is just to gamble and lose our money.

Although we may say that we don't lose all the time, there are also instances that we win money, but the question is, how long that would last? I mean, if you are a gambler or an addicted gambler, you'll never stop gambling until you lose everything. Did anyone here know an addicted gambler stop gambling when they are winning?


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: danherbias07 on February 04, 2024, 09:09:14 AM
I think this will depend on the personality of the person who will talk to the gambling addict.
If he is the type who can discuss it straight to the point then I bet he will be harsh at telling the truth, or it will sound harsh. That's what I will do because in the past I've learned my lesson that sometimes being gentle to the person could make it worse. But telling them the facts and what could be done to prevent it without taking the long cut seems to be working well.
I have friends who are drug addicts and somehow I affected them with the harsh things that I've said to them. Now, they are clean and working hard for their families.
I think this will also depend on the listener/gambling addict in this case. If you two both know each other well then I think you can talk to him straight to the point and just be real. Don't let your emotion of pity become a wall and then you will talk to him like you are another person, just be yourself and try if that will work. I bet it will.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Ever-young on February 04, 2024, 09:31:44 AM
2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.
Being harsh to them can’t get the best out of them, because they will see it as if you hate them and is using their weakness against them which the best thing for them to be at peace is not to come close to you, to me the best way is to advise and tell them things share how they can be able to get their self out of it make plans with them and keep them busy don’t leave their sight when ever you can and they should limit the amount of time they visit the casino, and if their are other activities you can get him involve at you should so that he can get his mind off their, one thing about all this addicts is that the moment they are bored they will start thinking about how to keep their self busy with gambling.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: LDL on February 04, 2024, 09:44:10 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
This is a natural and very helpful piece of advice for those who live and move around with family members who are gambling addicts. I also live next door to such a family of gambling addicts where I also live with them in a cooperative and cordial relationship. I always talk to them about the dangers of gambling and always advise them to refrain from gambling.
In the first situation they did not listen to me but opposed me but in the present situation they have been able to refrain from gambling to a large extent. I always tried to treat them well and always tried to stop them from gambling by giving them financial help as well as good advice. Hopefully this family will try to stop gambling soon.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: kojektea on February 04, 2024, 09:53:24 AM
If the heart asks, it is better to use it in a gentle way without any violence. It is better to understand the character of a gambling addict before starting, because both methods have good and bad sides. If the gambling addict is short-tempered, it is better to use it in a gentle way. If the addict tends to keep quiet, use rather harsh methods, don't be fooled by the gambler, usually they are very clever at hiding things and tend to lie.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on February 04, 2024, 09:56:32 AM
For me it's little bit hard and challenging if we will help one of our family members away from gambling cause there's a chance that they will get angry with us but it won't happen if we slowly teach them how to leave in addiction we should have them a good and true happiness outside in gambling world. Cause addiction is very serious illness  its too hard to handle it self so we need some people to help out in a gambling world.
I think it is impossible to advise those who have experienced gambling addiction and we tell them to stop gambling that they will scold us and will never listen to what we tell them about the gambling they have done has had a bad impact on themselves. If they want to leave their own gambling addiction then other people can suggest to stop and give them advice because if they don't want to stop then other people will not be able to stop their gambling activities.

No mate I think you can still advise an addict who has been very deep in gambling to stop depending on how well you understand such person, they can actually get angry when you approach them with the topic but once you are able to talk to them politely with good reasons, not being too proud or hurtful in your words ro them they csn listen to you.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on February 04, 2024, 10:41:24 AM
If gambler is a family member then first it is necessary to talk with them gently and softly but if they don't understand and don't leave gambling then harsh words and harsh act is needed because when a person cannot understand with soft words then opposite way should be adopted.

 A person can understand but if we talk about bad things about gambling at early stage because once a person start to take loan for gambling and steal money for it then it becomes hard to talk with them because now he is out of control as from single mistakes he initiated multiples other mistakes and faults.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 04, 2024, 10:59:21 AM
If the heart asks, it is better to use it in a gentle way without any violence. It is better to understand the character of a gambling addict before starting, because both methods have good and bad sides. If the gambling addict is short-tempered, it is better to use it in a gentle way. If the addict tends to keep quiet, use rather harsh methods, don't be fooled by the gambler, usually they are very clever at hiding things and tend to lie.
That means we have to look for ways to approach gambling addicts by trying to recognize their character. We cannot directly express our desire to help them cure their gambling addiction because that could offend them and they will say that they are still fine. Gamblers who are addicted to gambling are very good at hiding it from many people so we have to keep looking for ways to get them to admit their gambling addiction. Once he is willing to admit it, we can invite him to visit a rehabilitation center to cure his gambling addiction. We still have to try to continue to support him so that he can be enthusiastic about curing his gambling addiction because he really needs support from his immediate family.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: piebeyb on February 04, 2024, 11:57:58 AM
If the heart asks, it is better to use it in a gentle way without any violence. It is better to understand the character of a gambling addict before starting, because both methods have good and bad sides. If the gambling addict is short-tempered, it is better to use it in a gentle way. If the addict tends to keep quiet, use rather harsh methods, don't be fooled by the gambler, usually they are very clever at hiding things and tend to lie.
Gentle methods usually work better for gambling addicts who have a hard or quiet character, even though it may indirectly take a long time to cure them, it doesn't matter as long as it doesn't hurt our families who are addicted to gambling, because harsh methods will usually leave an impression and damage their mental health. so it won't be good in the end, even though you might be able to stop gambling completely, it's best to gently not ask him to stop completely but start by reducing it slowly.

Bad habits cannot be stopped if you are used to doing them, but what you can do is reduce your activity in gambling so that you don't really do this habit all the time because it is difficult to cure gambling addiction, which at a high level can take years. My gambling friend needs to it took him about 5 years to be able to stop completely because he was a slot gambling addict, since his family left him he began to realize and regret it by rebuilding what he had broken, but the way he did it was in a gentle way, not too much pressure and force to quickly stop but go through the process over time until it stops completely.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Fredomago on February 04, 2024, 12:08:15 PM
For me it's little bit hard and challenging if we will help one of our family members away from gambling cause there's a chance that they will get angry with us but it won't happen if we slowly teach them how to leave in addiction we should have them a good and true happiness outside in gambling world. Cause addiction is very serious illness  its too hard to handle it self so we need some people to help out in a gambling world.
I think it is impossible to advise those who have experienced gambling addiction and we tell them to stop gambling that they will scold us and will never listen to what we tell them about the gambling they have done has had a bad impact on themselves. If they want to leave their own gambling addiction then other people can suggest to stop and give them advice because if they don't want to stop then other people will not be able to stop their gambling activities.

No mate I think you can still advise an addict who has been very deep in gambling to stop depending on how well you understand such person, they can actually get angry when you approach them with the topic but once you are able to talk to them politely with good reasons, not being too proud or hurtful in your words ro them they csn listen to you.


I get your point, and it is valid. Depending on how close you are to the person and how well you know the situation, you can still talk and open it up and try to take your advice in a polite way that the person will be able to adopt, though don't expect that it will be easily taken as knowing most of those gambling addicted person mostly have that a kind of attitude that they are denying their addiction,

Unless they are accepting it already and just like what you said, depending on the situation still.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: 3kpk3 on February 04, 2024, 12:28:55 PM
Calm will also result for them to think that they can go over you and in time you might not know that you are already following them into being a gambler lol.
most of addicted people does not know calmness instead they are looking for things that can easily supply them what they need and what they can earn from that addiction.
There is no perfect approach here, but the calm approach seems to produce better results when compared to the aggressive approach which makes a lot of sense if you think about it.

Helping the addict to meet a psychologist is even better than both of these strategies in my honest opinion.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Rruchi man on February 04, 2024, 02:25:13 PM
1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.
The two methods will work depending on the person. But the less likely to work out of the two methods is the second. I believe that we cannot achieve much when trying to help someone change a habit by use of force or harsh method. If you want to help them, get them professional help, so they can see reason why the habit they are picking up will be bad for them.

If you are harsh about correcting some kind of habits like this, your family or friend that you are trying to correct may react obstructively to your correction, pretend like they have taken correction and continue the habit in secret. Correction has to be carefully and decisively done.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: bittraffic on February 04, 2024, 03:08:03 PM
1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.
The two methods will work depending on the person. But the less likely to work out of the two methods is the second. I believe that we cannot achieve much when trying to help someone change a habit by use of force or harsh method. If you want to help them, get them professional help, so they can see reason why the habit they are picking up will be bad for them.

If you are harsh about correcting some kind of habits like this, your family or friend that you are trying to correct may react obstructively to your correction, pretend like they have taken correction and continue the habit in secret. Correction has to be carefully and decisively done.

None of it will work unless the addict himself wants to change himself. Even if there is a professional that will lead him to do this but if he is not trying both will fail.

Just like smoking habits, the person will not stop until something happens and he voluntarily wants to get rid of this habit. Even the person who willingly wants to get rid of the habit will have a hard time, sometimes they will sneak around because old habits die hard.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Yatsan on February 04, 2024, 03:08:48 PM
Depends on his/her personality. To some people being authoritarian would work more but to some it would be better to be gentle with them. But in most instances, it would be better not to push things givej that addiction is the concern with the mentioned subject or family member. Given that it is addiction, being harsh and forcing them to quit won't solve the problem. It will just possibly result to another conflict which is between the two of you. What you need to do is to understand the situation of him and not on your perspective alone. Things are not easy for people who are suffering from addiction. Of course everyone knows it is bad to gambling too much so they won't be in such state for nothing and that's what you need to understand.

Take it with small steps. Isolate and give companion on his end to enjoy time and eventually forgot the drive he was having with gambling. Things won't happen in an instant. Keep in mind that it is a family member to you which means you need to consider more of his well-being than to be too subjective of what is right and what is wrong that they have done.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: topbitcoin on February 04, 2024, 07:09:32 PM
If we advise a gambling addict sarcastically, then it is like putting out a fire with kerosene. Where instead of the fire being extinguished, it only got bigger. And if that's the way to give advice, then what's the difference between us and them, who are just as stubborn, don't want to give in and are easily provoked by emotions?

When we are faced with a gambling addict and intend to advise him to recover from this addiction, then we are required to have extra patience. Because as I said earlier, they are stubborn, don't want to give in, are easily provoked by emotions, are temperamental, always feel they are right and don't want to accept the truth. To be able to make them aware of their bad behavior, it is not as easy as turning the palm of your hand, where we have to do it slowly. We cannot at our initial meeting immediately advise him, where as much as possible we must create a feeling of comfort for him towards us until there is no longer any awkwardness between the two of them and slowly we must be able to enter his subconscious. And when we succeed at that point, then without being asked, the gambling addict will slowly talk about his problems in gambling.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: slapper on February 04, 2024, 07:30:00 PM
Depends on his/her personality. To some people being authoritarian would work more but to some it would be better to be gentle with them. But in most instances, it would be better not to push things givej that addiction is the concern with the mentioned subject or family member. Given that it is addiction, being harsh and forcing them to quit won't solve the problem. It will just possibly result to another conflict which is between the two of you. What you need to do is to understand the situation of him and not on your perspective alone. Things are not easy for people who are suffering from addiction. Of course everyone knows it is bad to gambling too much so they won't be in such state for nothing and that's what you need to understand.

Take it with small steps. Isolate and give companion on his end to enjoy time and eventually forgot the drive he was having with gambling. Things won't happen in an instant. Keep in mind that it is a family member to you which means you need to consider more of his well-being than to be too subjective of what is right and what is wrong that they have done.
Yes, understanding and sensitivity are important, but let's face addiction's facts. Not just a poor habit, but a complex brain disorder. You say to take little steps and be companionable, but are we reaching the mark? People, addiction rewires the brain. It's about dopamine, reward circuits, and other neuroscience that doesn't disappear with handholding. No need to be a dictator, but too subtle a nudge is like speaking into the wind. A good plan and systematic support are needed. We shouldn't vilify all gambling while supporting it. Responsible recreational gambling exists. Joy should be refocused, not taken away. We should be clear-eyed about our situation. It's not just about being there; it's about being there effectively


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Lorence.xD on February 04, 2024, 07:49:27 PM
Depends on his/her personality. To some people being authoritarian would work more but to some it would be better to be gentle with them. But in most instances, it would be better not to push things givej that addiction is the concern with the mentioned subject or family member. Given that it is addiction, being harsh and forcing them to quit won't solve the problem. It will just possibly result to another conflict which is between the two of you. What you need to do is to understand the situation of him and not on your perspective alone. Things are not easy for people who are suffering from addiction. Of course everyone knows it is bad to gambling too much so they won't be in such state for nothing and that's what you need to understand.

Take it with small steps. Isolate and give companion on his end to enjoy time and eventually forgot the drive he was having with gambling. Things won't happen in an instant. Keep in mind that it is a family member to you which means you need to consider more of his well-being than to be too subjective of what is right and what is wrong that they have done.
Yes, understanding and sensitivity are important, but let's face addiction's facts. Not just a poor habit, but a complex brain disorder. You say to take little steps and be companionable, but are we reaching the mark? People, addiction rewires the brain. It's about dopamine, reward circuits, and other neuroscience that doesn't disappear with handholding. No need to be a dictator, but too subtle a nudge is like speaking into the wind. A good plan and systematic support are needed. We shouldn't vilify all gambling while supporting it. Responsible recreational gambling exists. Joy should be refocused, not taken away. We should be clear-eyed about our situation. It's not just about being there; it's about being there effectively
He probably based on the two options mentioned by OP. Of course if it is being objective then best thing to do is to let professionals do their thing about the case and the rest will be on the procedures and 'treatments' to be done in order for the main subject to escape from addiction. Given that there are conditions such as being a family member, then things should be specified with the coping his family members would do. Choices are to be harsh or to be soft speaking to the addicted member if the family and practically viewing, no addiction will be aided completely with just being strict of how things should be done even if they/he already knows it but still became a victim of gambling addiction.

On my end, I would be preferring a strict or harsh way to help me quit gambling but to other gamblers who are suffering as well with the obsession, being or showing more empathy on them. Quite of a matter between reward and reinforcement and how things should be really done.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: the rise on February 04, 2024, 07:53:56 PM
teaching them in a gentle way is much better in a rough way, usually gambling addicts usually have unstable temperaments, they get emotional easily, so why fight if we want to advise them, taking them to a place of worship to do physical activity together will much better help them to stop When playing gambling, keep an eye on it and gently prohibit it


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: kojektea on February 04, 2024, 07:59:12 PM
If the heart asks, it is better to use it in a gentle way without any violence. It is better to understand the character of a gambling addict before starting, because both methods have good and bad sides. If the gambling addict is short-tempered, it is better to use it in a gentle way. If the addict tends to keep quiet, use rather harsh methods, don't be fooled by the gambler, usually they are very clever at hiding things and tend to lie.
That means we have to look for ways to approach gambling addicts by trying to recognize their character. We cannot directly express our desire to help them cure their gambling addiction because that could offend them and they will say that they are still fine. Gamblers who are addicted to gambling are very good at hiding it from many people so we have to keep looking for ways to get them to admit their gambling addiction. Once he is willing to admit it, we can invite him to visit a rehabilitation center to cure his gambling addiction. We still have to try to continue to support him so that he can be enthusiastic about curing his gambling addiction because he really needs support from his immediate family.
why do you have to go to rehabilitation, why not try to take him to go and relax, it will make him enjoy it more, besides, we as a family have to have a special approach to show affection for him, that we really care about him, if you take him to rehabilitation it seems not very good, building harmonious family relationships will show real results


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Accardo on February 04, 2024, 07:59:58 PM
If we advise a gambling addict sarcastically, then it is like putting out a fire with kerosene. Where instead of the fire being extinguished, it only got bigger. And if that's the way to give advice, then what's the difference between us and them, who are just as stubborn, don't want to give in and are easily provoked by emotions?

When we are faced with a gambling addict and intend to advise him to recover from this addiction, then we are required to have extra patience. Because as I said earlier, they are stubborn, don't want to give in, are easily provoked by emotions, are temperamental, always feel they are right and don't want to accept the truth. To be able to make them aware of their bad behavior, it is not as easy as turning the palm of your hand, where we have to do it slowly. We cannot at our initial meeting immediately advise him, where as much as possible we must create a feeling of comfort for him towards us until there is no longer any awkwardness between the two of them and slowly we must be able to enter his subconscious. And when we succeed at that point, then without being asked, the gambling addict will slowly talk about his problems in gambling.

I think the word persistent would be good for qualifying an addict instead of stubbornness. They're actually persisting to keep up with their habit. It then looks like stubbornness to people around him, as he'd hardly adhere to their advice or instruction to him. However, when in the midst of an addict, it's crucial to help out using any strategy available, other than being aggressive. Carefully, offering out some gambling tips and ways he could manage his funds helps the addict a lot. Building rapport with him is key. He faces trouble in gambling every day and would want to discuss with someone he can trust, who wouldn't yell or talk against his habit. Being there for him as a close friend, will open up a space for sharing of ideas and techniques that can change the thoughts of the gambler. However, it's a long-term process and the addict also need to be as comfortable as possible with the person. If not, he may not release relevant information about the level of his gambling addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: coolcoinz on February 04, 2024, 08:22:44 PM
You can't be too gentle because that will make the guy feel like you're giving him suggestions, but don't be too harsh or you'll make an enemy out of him. If you push an addict, at some point the addict will feel like you don't want what's best for him and will start to ignore you or fight back. You want the person to realize that you're not doing it for yourself but want what's best for him.

What I'd do would depend on how damaging the person would be to themselves and people around them. You should have a different approach to a person who lies to you and steals from you, than you'd have towards someone who gambles to problems of life. There's so many types of gamblers and many levels of addiction so I can't give you a general advice that would fit them all.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: SatoPrincess on February 04, 2024, 09:36:11 PM
The first approach would be the best in my opinion. You can’t force a person to stop gambling if they are already addicted. If the pressure becomes too much, they may gamble behind your back or cut your off from their lives. To quit an addiction, the addict has to first come to terms with the reality that he has a gambling problem. Conversations with family members and loved ones will help the person deal with their problem.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: maydna on February 04, 2024, 09:49:32 PM
None of it will work unless the addict himself wants to change himself. Even if there is a professional that will lead him to do this but if he is not trying both will fail.

Just like smoking habits, the person will not stop until something happens and he voluntarily wants to get rid of this habit. Even the person who willingly wants to get rid of the habit will have a hard time, sometimes they will sneak around because old habits die hard.
Only the gambling addict himself really wants to change himself to want to cure himself of his gambling addiction. If not, he will still be a gambling addict without anyone being able to get him out of his gambling addiction. And he will also get deeper into gambling, and it could even get worse.

But when he voluntarily wants to get rid of this habit, he will admit his gambling addiction and will ask for help from the people around him to help him cure his gambling addiction. He would really do a lot of things so that he could cure his gambling addiction. And even though they will encounter difficulties, they will not give up because they already have the desire to cure their gambling addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Oilacris on February 04, 2024, 10:23:21 PM
The first approach would be the best in my opinion. You can’t force a person to stop gambling if they are already addicted. If the pressure becomes too much, they may gamble behind your back or cut your off from their lives. To quit an addiction, the addict has to first come to terms with the reality that he has a gambling problem. Conversations with family members and loved ones will help the person deal with their problem.
But at least you are trying out to help them or give out advises but somewhat its true on what you have said that it would really be that still depending with their own self realizations.
We do know that there would really be that sense of responsibility on the time that they would really be doing gambling. Now that if its one of the family members had fall down into such addiction
then this is where they would really be making themselves that doing those impulsive things on which it would really be that become the result on messing up your life with.
As part of the family then it would really be just that right that you should really be helping them at least since its our family.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: wiss19 on February 06, 2024, 12:51:33 PM
If I have an addict that stays around me and I want to help him, i will first attack his mentality towards and about gambling.

There are obvious stories about gambling that he might not have heard about, I will even create negative imaginations about the downsides of gambling and next will be to engage him as a form of distraction from the regular gambling activities.
It's definitely not as simple as you think. Your approach could drive them into a frenzy making matters worse which is why this isn't the most efficient strategy and I am speaking from experience.

A calm and patient approach is required to deal with such addicts in my opinion. Think!
I don't think there is anything wrong with that approach. Most of the time, you can play with people's minds with words and stories which might change their perspective towards certain things because human psychology can be changed by someone who understands these things. People who study human psychology can easily change your mind with their words and verbal techniques and you won't even realize that they have just tricked you.

So not seeing this from a negative point of view, I think trying to change one's mindset and perspective towards gambling might help them get away from the addiction, and when it comes to verbal techniques, it isn't the same as forcing someone to get away from gambling physically or using forceful words.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: piebeyb on February 06, 2024, 01:04:48 PM
So not seeing this from a negative point of view, I think trying to change one's mindset and perspective towards gambling might help them get away from the addiction, and when it comes to verbal techniques, it isn't the same as forcing someone to get away from gambling physically or using forceful words.
I think this method can also be another alternative by providing good suggestions and input to change their mindset to be healthier. Sometimes we actually know that the problem of people who are addicted to gambling lies in their mindset, most of them think that gambling is a place to seek wealth online. instant, therefore they continue to pursue consciously to gain victory and wealth, but because the level of difficulty is very high they are trapped and become addicted to gambling.

If that happened to my family, of course this method can be done because in a gentle way it will definitely be successful in changing their mindset. If you suppress it with force, it is also not completely successful, although there are a few that are successful, but it will definitely leave a mark on their mentality, this method is actually more useful to me. I also recommend it because mindset is important, as I usually use the mindset that gambling is a place to look for fun and entertainment, nothing more than that, that's why I don't get addicted to gambling easily because I play responsibly. One thing that must be understood is that playing gambling responsibly will not make people addicted to gambling.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Jody.Drummer on February 06, 2024, 01:05:27 PM
The first approach would be the best in my opinion. You can’t force a person to stop gambling if they are already addicted. If the pressure becomes too much, they may gamble behind your back or cut your off from their lives. To quit an addiction, the addict has to first come to terms with the reality that he has a gambling problem. Conversations with family members and loved ones will help the person deal with their problem.
But at least you are trying out to help them or give out advises but somewhat its true on what you have said that it would really be that still depending with their own self realizations.
We do know that there would really be that sense of responsibility on the time that they would really be doing gambling. Now that if its one of the family members had fall down into such addiction
then this is where they would really be making themselves that doing those impulsive things on which it would really be that become the result on messing up your life with.
As part of the family then it would really be just that right that you should really be helping them at least since its our family.

Helping others in anything that leads to goodness is always recommended especially in helping them to get out of the addiction zone, I understand that addiction is a very difficult disease to overcome because it involves a person's mindset that is wrong in viewing gambling, And of course as you said that even if you provide help to them in any way such as through a suggestion it is still very unlikely in the end that there will be a change for the better if it is very difficult for them to reach their level of awareness because as I said above that this disease lies in a person's mindset, even though in general according to normal people it is wrong but according to them it is normal and this is what makes it difficult for them to reach their awareness.

If this addiction is owned by one of your family then obviously the family is the first to help them to get out of this bad addiction phase, and on the other hand because usually the closest people especially family have a considerable influence on them and I think at least with this they will be more able to listen and consider various suggestions that come from their family members to be able to achieve awareness and change mindset.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 07, 2024, 04:27:16 PM
Sometimes it is not easy to get out of an addiction problem as it is Believed , or as they say, yes, in part the Person who suffers from the Addiction has to put in his full Effort and will so that his things can see that addiction is a problem that It has to Affect that person and those around them, that one's own will to be cured is essential for that morale to be very high, but in part what must be done is that the people Around them can have a lot to do with it. What they can do for them , forExample a parent who goes to a psychologist can help a person a lot in that sense, not only can sometimes you get out of it, the people who are all the time looking for a way to Overcome this have to have help, sometimes they need someone's push to get out of what they are in , we as People who are intelligent, why should we see the niche of the rpobelma from every point of View , we Know that the will is Something that is must have , but its own to Review Everything that the treatment can generate.

People who are very Addicted lose their self-esteem , lose their security and Sometimes lose Sense of responsibility by indulging in addiction, who knows who is to blame? Is it the casinos fault? No, it's not the fault of the case or the game, that's primarily the addiction because the person allows it to happen, because they don't know how to stop themselves and put the most important things before their life, nor does a person who needs it have to do so much. your money in a casino, because it is something that is not viable, so in this order of ideas things should not be seen in that sense I was able to say that when we are looking for more ways to overcome things, an addicted Person sometimes needs good advice from a friend, good treatment, for the person to Recover psychologically from what they are suffering from, to get back to it,  his confidence and his way of solving problems.
It's never easy to get out, and we could even ask a question if there's a choice involved. When people are sick and have fever, we rarely blame them for being sick. Addiction is a sickness as well why would we treat them any different? But finding the blame is what humans tend to do, as they see this an issue with someone doing something wrong from their own free will. You are spot on that treatment is necessary, because these people need help. They obviously can't just snap out of it or they would have already done it. Reasoning addict can be very frustrating because they are not following same rules, and often have delusions of grandeur about their own capabilities and future.

Well, whenever it comes to doing things well, one knows that something as delicate as addiction must be treated quickly and urgently and without waiting too long, but with immediate attention, that is something that we should know, of course we What we will always think is that the best thing is to go to a psychologist and if the addiction is strong, then very big measures have to be taken, as has been done on other occasions, things must be treated urgently, it is not to be thought that this will be It heals alone, because the more time passes, the greater the degree of complexity there is, so when we are thinking about doing different things, we must be very clear that things are different, for me the best thing that can be done It is treating the addiction quickly, because the addiction not only takes away your money, it also leaves you without friends, without family, and with nothing, in truth that is one of the bears that have the most bad reaction, so no one with the addiction should treat it Immediately, do not think about what is going to happen, because the most important thing is to heal.

When we see a person who suffers from a gambling addiction, it is difficult, both for that person and the family. If the person does not have a family, we have to emphasize that things will always need to be treated quickly, there is no other way. , we are people who must always do the best possible for everything, in this order of days if we concentrate on doing any thing, it does not matter if the solution for an addicted person is for him to do sleep cures , when someone is very bad, well That can be a solution because it calms you down and takes away your Anxiety You shouldn't do anything unless you are clear about what you are suffering from, so any measure that is taken is good, of course without affecting the mental health of the person , always the integrity and growth of the person should not be affected.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: coin-investor on February 10, 2024, 03:29:19 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

It depends on the character of the person, there are persons you can persuade by being soft and understanding and there are people you can persuade by being harder on them so it's a case-to-case basis when dealing with a person who is addicted to gambling.

But it is better to let the professional do their things, some gamblers are deceptive they will say they are going to stop but when you're not looking they'll still play, and they are good at concealing their behavior and where and when they are playing.

So it is better that a real doctor who deals with gambling addiction deal with this person because they spent years of training to communicate with these compulsive gamblers, our responsibility is to lead them here and urge them to consult.



Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Webetcoins on February 12, 2024, 10:35:24 AM
Well, whenever it comes to doing things well, one knows that something as delicate as addiction must be treated quickly and urgently and without waiting too long, but with immediate attention, that is something that we should know, of course we What we will always think is that the best thing is to go to a psychologist and if the addiction is strong, then very big measures have to be taken, as has been done on other occasions, things must be treated urgently, it is not to be thought that this will be It heals alone, because the more time passes, the greater the degree of complexity there is,
The severity of an addiction has a maximum limit, in my opinion. and once the addiction reaches that point, it won't go any further, however, the effects it has won't get lower with time and the person will keep feeding the addiction until it's cured.

An addiction can only be treated quickly if the person getting addicted acknowledges it before it gets too severe, and if they don't do it, someone close to them should realize that they are addicted to a certain thing and if it isn't controlled quickly, it can keep getting stronger until it reaches a point from where it will become extremely difficult to get out. Once the realization is done, then they can think of ways that can be used to treat the addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Fredomago on February 12, 2024, 12:00:12 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

It depends on the character of the person, there are persons you can persuade by being soft and understanding and there are people you can persuade by being harder on them so it's a case-to-case basis when dealing with a person who is addicted to gambling.

But it is better to let the professional do their things, some gamblers are deceptive they will say they are going to stop but when you're not looking they'll still play, and they are good at concealing their behavior and where and when they are playing.

So it is better that a real doctor who deals with gambling addiction deal with this person because they spent years of training to communicate with these compulsive gamblers, our responsibility is to lead them here and urge them to consult.



If the addiction is already deep it's best to have a specialist to look at it and assess if what kind of approach is needed to work with the case of that person, I guess the only thing that can be done is to try to talk and see if the person can still help himself, though like what you mentioned, it's more on how close you are with the person and how you think his appreciation after showing him your care. If he take it as for his own good then chances to push the help can make things change for betterment but if not, expect the need of professional to assist.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Blitzboy on February 12, 2024, 12:52:32 PM
I think understanding and support are more important than harshness. Key? Open, heartfelt discussions. We can give a healing safety net by supporting and never straying.

But this doesnt mean ignoring gambling's perils. Education and guidance, not control. I support setting boundaries and expectations while being supportive. Gambling responsibly can be fun, but addiction must be identified and treated.

Together, compassion and firm supervision can help people recover. Balance: providing a hand yet being clear on the line. This approach makes addiction recovery safer while recognizing responsible gambling as leisure.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: stomachgrowls on February 12, 2024, 01:06:34 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

It depends on the character of the person, there are persons you can persuade by being soft and understanding and there are people you can persuade by being harder on them so it's a case-to-case basis when dealing with a person who is addicted to gambling.

But it is better to let the professional do their things, some gamblers are deceptive they will say they are going to stop but when you're not looking they'll still play, and they are good at concealing their behavior and where and when they are playing.

So it is better that a real doctor who deals with gambling addiction deal with this person because they spent years of training to communicate with these compulsive gamblers, our responsibility is to lead them here and urge them to consult.



If the addiction is already deep it's best to have a specialist to look at it and assess if what kind of approach is needed to work with the case of that person, I guess the only thing that can be done is to try to talk and see if the person can still help himself, though like what you mentioned, it's more on how close you are with the person and how you think his appreciation after showing him your care. If he take it as for his own good then chances to push the help can make things change for betterment but if not, expect the need of professional to assist.
As much as possible then you should really be helping them out specially if its part of the family. As much as possible we should really be helping them and made them realize that the thing that they are currently doing
is bad but i do agree into those points that if things already worst and not something that cant be solved out with some simple talks and advises then this is the time that you would really be considering on looking for
some professional help and this is something that should really be done. We cant really just that let them on facing up that problem along specially if its a family member. We do love them and we cant just
afford on seeing them into such bad situation because we know that gambling addiction is something that could end up on miserable life.

Unless if you are really that someone who doesnt really care and just mind on your own business then you wont really be having no time on telling on things that they should gonna do.
It would really be that impossible that you could turn back yourself on them and i could tell it to myself.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Assface16678 on February 12, 2024, 01:07:22 PM
I think understanding and support are more important than harshness. Key? Open, heartfelt discussions. We can give a healing safety net by supporting and never straying.

But this doesnt mean ignoring gambling's perils. Education and guidance, not control. I support setting boundaries and expectations while being supportive. Gambling responsibly can be fun, but addiction must be identified and treated.

Together, compassion and firm supervision can help people recover. Balance: providing a hand yet being clear on the line. This approach makes addiction recovery safer while recognizing responsible gambling as leisure.
I agree with this. This may be the main step in guiding and pursuing a person who is a gambling addict, but what if, no matter how gentle and supportive you are, it still doesn't work? What I mean is that harshness can be a last result in a form of rehabilitation. For example, it may hurt the person who is addicted, but the point is that you come up with that solution because the person is beyond help and cannot be helped in a good and gentle manner. I personally focus more on becoming harsh, especially with my friends. If I know and notice that they are emerging from gambling, then I will be glad to slap them with harsh words in order for them to wake up from what they are doing wrong, but of course I still control and am not overboard with my words to them. I want to help them not to hurt them.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: danherbias07 on February 12, 2024, 02:03:57 PM
I think understanding and support are more important than harshness. Key? Open, heartfelt discussions. We can give a healing safety net by supporting and never straying.

But this doesnt mean ignoring gambling's perils. Education and guidance, not control. I support setting boundaries and expectations while being supportive. Gambling responsibly can be fun, but addiction must be identified and treated.

Together, compassion and firm supervision can help people recover. Balance: providing a hand yet being clear on the line. This approach makes addiction recovery safer while recognizing responsible gambling as leisure.

Well, sometimes the truth is better and there are people who like receiving harsh advice like that rather than having a boring heartfelt discussion.
That's why I told you in my first post here that it will depend on how close you are to that gambling addict and how you treat each other.
Imagine if one friend who is known to be a direct talker, of facts, and the truth, suddenly becomes a friend who will be in serious heart-to-heart discussion. I bet the listener will be shocked by that and he might as well just cover his ears because that ain't him.

So, there's really no good answer here and we have different approaches to different people that we meet especially if it's within our family.
In my case, I am a different guy when I am in front of my uncles and aunts because we are used to just having serious discussions but I am vice versa when I am with my close friends. I get to be talkative, full of curse words, and I laugh all the time like everything is a joke for us.
Those who know the gambler could help but I still suggest being real in front of him because if they feel that we pity them, then I bet they will not listen to us.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: borovichok on February 12, 2024, 09:32:22 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

It depends on the character of the person, there are persons you can persuade by being soft and understanding and there are people you can persuade by being harder on them so it's a case-to-case basis when dealing with a person who is addicted to gambling.

In my opinion, the character of the person does not matter reasons being that the gambler is an adult and it is believed that he is gambling with his money so you don't force an adult to do or stop something whether he is a family member or not does not matter. The best option is to talk to them politely and make them see the reasons why they shouldn't continue gambling. It is a matter of being able to convince them not to gamble again and not trying to exhibit control by forcing them not to. The truth is you will only trigger anger and not solve the problem if you try to force them.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 14, 2024, 04:13:06 PM
Well, whenever it comes to doing things well, one knows that something as delicate as addiction must be treated quickly and urgently and without waiting too long, but with immediate attention, that is something that we should know, of course we What we will always think is that the best thing is to go to a psychologist and if the addiction is strong, then very big measures have to be taken, as has been done on other occasions, things must be treated urgently, it is not to be thought that this will be It heals alone, because the more time passes, the greater the degree of complexity there is,
The severity of an addiction has a maximum limit, in my opinion. and once the addiction reaches that point, it won't go any further, however, the effects it has won't get lower with time and the person will keep feeding the addiction until it's cured.

An addiction can only be treated quickly if the person getting addicted acknowledges it before it gets too severe, and if they don't do it, someone close to them should realize that they are addicted to a certain thing and if it isn't controlled quickly, it can keep getting stronger until it reaches a point from where it will become extremely difficult to get out. Once the realization is done, then they can think of ways that can be used to treat the addiction.

Well, I have always talked about addiction with the sleep cure option because a friend's mother had great stress at work, it was something that was so strong that she went to the psychologist, they sent her to a doctor and then she They did the sleep cure as therapy, and that was only for stress, now if stress is something I think is more harmless than an addiction like gambling, if this is applied to an addict because it cannot be controlled, I believe that I try to calm down a little, that is something that we must see and agree that it is what must be done and that it helps to make anything better, that is something that not everything can do, but in itself I think that this strategy or technique is very efficient At the medical level, I don't know how they will tell you, but I think that things can be seen like this. In another order of things, I think that it is an Addiction Depending on its degree , because it must be the treatment, what happens is that knowledge of measurements only in I don't Know that part, because it Already has to do with behaviors and personality.

Now, things can be Different , Seen from another point of view, when they can be treated without a lot of money, that is , because People do not have that much Money , they Should make other Options , but I think the healthiest will be when we can do other things. ., like doing sports, looking for ways to do things better with actions such as going for a walk , going for a coffee or watching movies, something like that can be done to Avoid Spending money on these Treatments, but the Person should be rvery Conscientious and do the kinds of things and the expenses that are due, because if you fell into addiction you must move quickly to do things, I Personally will always think that things are Better that way and that way you have much better Ways of controlling Everything , that is why things should always be done better under any Circumstance , and that it does not have many Repercussions.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Fredomago on February 14, 2024, 09:28:20 PM
I think understanding and support are more important than harshness. Key? Open, heartfelt discussions. We can give a healing safety net by supporting and never straying.

But this doesnt mean ignoring gambling's perils. Education and guidance, not control. I support setting boundaries and expectations while being supportive. Gambling responsibly can be fun, but addiction must be identified and treated.

Together, compassion and firm supervision can help people recover. Balance: providing a hand yet being clear on the line. This approach makes addiction recovery safer while recognizing responsible gambling as leisure.

Well, sometimes the truth is better and there are people who like receiving harsh advice like that rather than having a boring heartfelt discussion.
That's why I told you in my first post here that it will depend on how close you are to that gambling addict and how you treat each other.
Imagine if one friend who is known to be a direct talker, of facts, and the truth, suddenly becomes a friend who will be in serious heart-to-heart discussion. I bet the listener will be shocked by that and he might as well just cover his ears because that ain't him.

So, there's really no good answer here and we have different approaches to different people that we meet especially if it's within our family.
In my case, I am a different guy when I am in front of my uncles and aunts because we are used to just having serious discussions but I am vice versa when I am with my close friends. I get to be talkative, full of curse words, and I laugh all the time like everything is a joke for us.
Those who know the gambler could help but I still suggest being real in front of him because if they feel that we pity them, then I bet they will not listen to us.

Yeah right,  the way you approach and the way you deliver your speech will have different impact to the person you are speaking to,  I get your point and it's valid since there are different types of people and their take regarding to what you want to deliver might be different from how you want them to adopt your concerns,  though sometimes it's better to be direct to the point and let your own emotions to flow and leave it to the person if how they will take it.

The only thing that you want is to address and help them to solve the issue, it's up to them to work on it and to try helping themselves.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Mia Chloe on February 14, 2024, 09:35:13 PM
Living with a gambling addict can be frustrating however a lot of persons actually make the mistake of being hard on them and trying to isolate themselves from them. However it isn't supposed to be so. Of course addiction is a bad thing but love and compassion overtime helps gambling addicts get over their addictions.

It can also be very challenging to try to draw an addict close to yourself but trust me it is the best thing to do as pushing them away makes them feel more lonely and having reasons to gamble more often than normal which not good for their wellbeing.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: mak013 on February 15, 2024, 05:29:13 AM
Living with a gambling addict can be frustrating however a lot of persons actually make the mistake of being hard on them and trying to isolate themselves from them. However it isn't supposed to be so. Of course addiction is a bad thing but love and compassion overtime helps gambling addicts get over their addictions.

It can also be very challenging to try to draw an addict close to yourself but trust me it is the best thing to do as pushing them away makes them feel more lonely and having reasons to gamble more often than normal which not good for their wellbeing.
Of course all cases are different, but i`m sure that love and compassion are the worst thing we can give the gambling addict in the start. First of all he must understand that he made his life awful himself and decide to change his life himself. Only after it we can give him some love. But we must be careful with love - it can destroy all the results.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: 0t3p0t on February 15, 2024, 06:02:04 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
I can only do number one on the list as number two could be a little bit offensive or provocative as we all know that people are not the same as others who will just listen to us so I don't think there is a need for us to be harsh to gambling addicts. They might listen to us on this but expect that it' on them if they absorb what we advice them.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Quidat on February 15, 2024, 06:26:00 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
I can only do number one on the list as number two could be a little bit offensive or provocative as we all know that people are not the same as others who will just listen to us so I don't think there is a need for us to be harsh to gambling addicts. They might listen to us on this but expect that it' on them if they absorb what we advice them.
Whether they would be absorbing or would really be hearing out those advises or not and it would really be that something that will really be that depending
on the person that had been that affected by gambling addiction on which we know that it would really be that always important that you should really be
that be a little gentle with such approach on telling this and telling that. Make them realize that the things that they've been doing were wrong and its not really something recommended. Addicted
people wont really be that easily believe on someones words even if we do say that someone is really that part of the family but well we wont really be able to know unless we do try.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: len01 on February 15, 2024, 07:26:42 AM
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What do you think?
not sure if my answer has ever answered first but in my opinion the two options are suitable to be used to help families who are addicted only we have to see how the condition of the addict.
If indeed a gambling addict is able to have changes with the first option by providing gentle support and using words that can penetrate their minds and encourage their minds to continue to avoid gambling slowly and if it works well it would be better for the first option to be maintained and Increased by several aspects.

but if a gambling addict has been given assistance with the first option but in a few days it has given an increase in avoiding gambling and in a few months it seems not gambling but apparently silently still made a bet, I think the second option must be done in the sense of not being too rough using physical but enough with harsh words to push his mind even deeper so that it is really depressed and eliminating the desire to gamble.

this is all just about the two options but actually there are many more ways to help families who have the habit of gambling but from the 2 options have represented everything and can be applied to different conditions.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Accardo on February 15, 2024, 08:05:25 AM
Living with a gambling addict can be frustrating however a lot of persons actually make the mistake of being hard on them and trying to isolate themselves from them. However it isn't supposed to be so. Of course addiction is a bad thing but love and compassion overtime helps gambling addicts get over their addictions.

It can also be very challenging to try to draw an addict close to yourself but trust me it is the best thing to do as pushing them away makes them feel more lonely and having reasons to gamble more often than normal which not good for their wellbeing.
Of course all cases are different, but i`m sure that love and compassion are the worst thing we can give the gambling addict in the start. First of all he must understand that he made his life awful himself and decide to change his life himself. Only after it we can give him some love. But we must be careful with love - it can destroy all the results.

Being harsh to a gambling addict will only inflict pain on both the loved ones and the addict. Staying caring and lovely with the addicted person helps to bring back the thoughts of the gambler to feel as though human and try to interact politely with people around him. I understand that we are not the cause of the addicted person's problem. But it's fine to say that gambling addiction takes a long time to heal and not everyone would be able to get hold of being kind for that long without losing it. Whatever method a person, loved one, or friend, wants to apply on his addicted friend, being harsh should be a part of it. They are only humans like us, and when they get better the person can be aggressive in the sense that when he was down bad for help, nobody, not even his close friends and family stood there for him. Instead, they applied a harsh method on him. Those attitudes will register on his brain. And he'll never suffer addiction forever. So, how good you treat them matters, because they'll remember it when their mental health gets better.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: SeaCoinCollector. on February 16, 2024, 06:41:10 AM
I think it would depend on the person and their situation. But mostly, being gentle is much better and works better, but if needed, being firm is necessary. But do remember to show share, love, and support and encourage them to seek help when they are ready.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: retreat on February 16, 2024, 06:54:28 AM
What gambling addicts need is a personal approach that is relaxed and does not corner them. Because if you force a gambling addict to stop gambling in a harsh way, they will fight you and might leave the house. So a personal approach is probably the best way to convince gambling addicts to stop gambling. But if that method doesn't work, maybe the second method can be used.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: sokani on February 16, 2024, 07:25:19 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

I'd go with the soft and gentle approach, make him see reasons why he should quit gambling. Sometimes these addicts know that what they're doing is wrong but the addiction has taken control over them in such a way that they find themselves doing what they don't want to do. So as I am talking to him gently, I'd also make appointment with a gambling therapist, cover the expenses and be with him at every step of his recovery.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Z390 on February 16, 2024, 07:38:38 AM
Some people don't know how to realize their fault, this is what makes many believe that whatever they are doing is always right, if such people turn into a gambling addict it will be difficult to make them see that they are already a gambling addict.

Some people do need the iron hand to wake up their senses, since they are family member you must know who they are, using harsh ways depends on who they are, making them develop the feeling of accepting that they are addicted and also the need to stop is the best solution.

Use harshes or softness, it depends on the person, but many gamblers are addicted and they don't just accept that they are addicted, make them see reasons and they will start fighting the addiction even when you are not there, a gambler is the solution to his own addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Hirose UK on February 16, 2024, 07:56:12 AM
~snip~
Whether they would be absorbing or would really be hearing out those advises or not and it would really be that something that will really be that depending
on the person that had been that affected by gambling addiction on which we know that it would really be that always important that you should really be
that be a little gentle with such approach on telling this and telling that. Make them realize that the things that they've been doing were wrong and its not really something recommended. Addicted
people wont really be that easily believe on someones words even if we do say that someone is really that part of the family but well we wont really be able to know unless we do try.
If they are people who are addicted then it will be difficult, they will never be able to accept or listen to the advice we give even in various ways.
A gambling addict will be able to always do what they want, even this is behavior or attitude that is truly beyond anyone imagination.
Don't they just make mistakes and continuously repeat them without stopping, there is only one thing that can make them change, namely their own awareness and thoughts to be better and improve all the mistakes that previously often occurred.
Maybe we can kindly and attentively provide advice, guidance and direction to them, but if that doesn't happen, the feeling that the gambler himself wants to change for the better will also be in vain.
Key is not in us but in those who experience all this, they are the ones who determine what will happen in the future and they themselves can determine what is good or not.
We are just being good people who intercede to help as best we can, whether they succeed or not is their own choice.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: mak013 on February 16, 2024, 08:32:53 AM
Of course all cases are different, but i`m sure that love and compassion are the worst thing we can give the gambling addict in the start. First of all he must understand that he made his life awful himself and decide to change his life himself. Only after it we can give him some love. But we must be careful with love - it can destroy all the results.

Being harsh to a gambling addict will only inflict pain on both the loved ones and the addict. Staying caring and lovely with the addicted person helps to bring back the thoughts of the gambler to feel as though human and try to interact politely with people around him. I understand that we are not the cause of the addicted person's problem. But it's fine to say that gambling addiction takes a long time to heal and not everyone would be able to get hold of being kind for that long without losing it. Whatever method a person, loved one, or friend, wants to apply on his addicted friend, being harsh should be a part of it. They are only humans like us, and when they get better the person can be aggressive in the sense that when he was down bad for help, nobody, not even his close friends and family stood there for him. Instead, they applied a harsh method on him. Those attitudes will register on his brain. And he'll never suffer addiction forever. So, how good you treat them matters, because they'll remember it when their mental health gets better.
I don`t sure that it can help. I would prefer to get result. And if the result would be - stop gambling, i don`t cares about his mental health. He change his life, it anyway hurts, but without addiction he has lots of opportunities to get a success and be happy. He`ll get lots of positive from the people around him and it would be enough to heal his mental health.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: gunhell16 on February 16, 2024, 08:40:29 AM
It's different when we talk to our family members or loved ones properly because we are the family and bloodline where no one else will help us but we are family, right? Correctly reminding a gambling addict means showing genuine concern for him.

And above all, don't get tired of reminding him about the things he is passionate about that have caused bad things in his personality that have affected not only himself but also those close to him.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 16, 2024, 12:09:56 PM
It's different when we talk to our family members or loved ones properly because we are the family and bloodline where no one else will help us but we are family, right? Correctly reminding a gambling addict means showing genuine concern for him.

And above all, don't get tired of reminding him about the things he is passionate about that have caused bad things in his personality that have affected not only himself but also those close to him.
If the gambling addict is a member of our family, we must be able to show that we sincerely want to help him get out of his gambling addiction so that they can see that other family members still care about him and will want to help him. The gambling addict will not feel that he is alone in going through everything because other family members always provide support and will even accompany him in his healing process.

By having sincere feelings for the gambling addict, he will begin to open up to his family members and ask them for help in solving his problem. The addict can still cure his gambling addiction with the help and support of other family members.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: slapper on February 16, 2024, 03:33:15 PM
Some people don't know how to realize their fault, this is what makes many believe that whatever they are doing is always right, if such people turn into a gambling addict it will be difficult to make them see that they are already a gambling addict.

Some people do need the iron hand to wake up their senses, since they are family member you must know who they are, using harsh ways depends on who they are, making them develop the feeling of accepting that they are addicted and also the need to stop is the best solution.

Use harshes or softness, it depends on the person, but many gamblers are addicted and they don't just accept that they are addicted, make them see reasons and they will start fighting the addiction even when you are not there, a gambler is the solution to his own addiction.
Straight talk? Many find it difficult to admit blame, especially with gambling addiction. Though harsh, others don't regard their acts as bad. Their loop is perilous. You know family best. Yes, sometimes an iron hand is needed. The key is understanding them, not just their hardness or gentleness

The issue is addiction. Show them why it's detrimental, not just tell them they're wrong. Quite delicate, this dance. Use "I" statements, not claims. "You're addicted" is "I'm concerned about how much you gamble." See the difference? Being aware of the need for change. Remember: healing begins with acceptance. Fighting the problem requires seeing it. Indeed, it's hard. But isn't family for that? To fight severe conflicts together?


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Blitzboy on February 16, 2024, 05:07:05 PM
Living with a gambling addict can be frustrating however a lot of persons actually make the mistake of being hard on them and trying to isolate themselves from them. However it isn't supposed to be so. Of course addiction is a bad thing but love and compassion overtime helps gambling addicts get over their addictions.

It can also be very challenging to try to draw an addict close to yourself but trust me it is the best thing to do as pushing them away makes them feel more lonely and having reasons to gamble more often than normal which not good for their wellbeing.
Of course all cases are different, but i`m sure that love and compassion are the worst thing we can give the gambling addict in the start. First of all he must understand that he made his life awful himself and decide to change his life himself. Only after it we can give him some love. But we must be careful with love - it can destroy all the results.

Being harsh to a gambling addict will only inflict pain on both the loved ones and the addict. Staying caring and lovely with the addicted person helps to bring back the thoughts of the gambler to feel as though human and try to interact politely with people around him. I understand that we are not the cause of the addicted person's problem. But it's fine to say that gambling addiction takes a long time to heal and not everyone would be able to get hold of being kind for that long without losing it. Whatever method a person, loved one, or friend, wants to apply on his addicted friend, being harsh should be a part of it. They are only humans like us, and when they get better the person can be aggressive in the sense that when he was down bad for help, nobody, not even his close friends and family stood there for him. Instead, they applied a harsh method on him. Those attitudes will register on his brain. And he'll never suffer addiction forever. So, how good you treat them matters, because they'll remember it when their mental health gets better.
Punishing a gambler is ineffective. Like you, I value compassion and understanding. Both the addict and their support network are on a journey. Keep in mind the narrow line between support and enabling. I think balance is key. Being kind doesnt imply ignoring bad behavior. Be there, support without judgment, and encourage accountability.

I understand how difficult it is to stay compassionate. Frustration and overwhelm are normal. But thats when support really matters, I say. Set boundaries to safeguard the addict and their family. Supporting pleasurable gambling within limitations emphasizes addiction's complexity. Not vilifying gambling, but encouraging responsible fun. Our treatment of the needy shows our humanity. Every positive connection gives hope in recovery, which is a marathon.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Mia Chloe on February 16, 2024, 06:12:23 PM
It may seem like there are a lot of very easy ways to go about helping gambling addicts but the truth is it is not as easy as we sometimes see it especially in cases where the addict in question is too much of a core one. However I believe the best way to go about it is to show them love and compassion. Like I said earlier the reason why pulling an addict out of addiction using compassion is difficult is because you have to be kind to them irrespective of the emotional stress and pain they have put you through as a family member and definitely as humana , sharing love when we are hurting is something that I would classify as Divine.
Addicts cause alot of emotional hurt to family members and the biggest problem is they most times don't realize it until it is far too late.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: asyakashi on February 16, 2024, 06:18:20 PM
according to the character of the gambling addict, if he is a member of your family of course you already understand his character so you know better which effective way to do it, but in my opinion it is better to use the gentle method first but if you can't use the hard method


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: carlfebz2 on February 16, 2024, 06:26:39 PM
according to the character of the gambling addict, if he is a member of your family of course you already understand his character so you know better which effective way to do it, but in my opinion it is better to use the gentle method first but if you can't use the hard method
If the addicted ones would really be just that inside the family then of course you do really know about its behavior or simply its character on which you would be able to assess whether you would really be taking that harsh approach or would really be sticking into that gentle one but just like been said that it would really be always best that you should really be starting with the gentle one on which you could really be able to make yourself that at least make that someone cant be able to feel that they are really that been choked out or something that been scolded because we know that once an addicted person would be having those kind of impressions then situations might come worst because they might be ending up on playing up more and something that cant be stopped. If things cant be fight off with advises then this is where professional
seek of help would really be that recommended.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Juse14 on February 16, 2024, 06:34:24 PM
I am also a gambler, only I am not a gambling addict. And as a gambler, it is quite difficult to make someone aware of an addiction, even if the addict is our relative. because we are in the same position as a gambler, what I imagined when I tried to make him aware of his bad behavior, what would happen would be that the addict would continue to distort the facts and truths that I conveyed. So it seems like it would be better if the person who made him aware was someone who had never been involved in gambling, someone he really cared about or someone he really respected. because when someone he loves gives advice, he will voluntarily accept the advice. And when the advice is given by someone he really respects, he will inevitably accept the advice. For the first time, advice must be conveyed with gentle words, but when gentle words still cannot make him come to his senses, then using harsh words becomes the second option.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: klidex on February 17, 2024, 02:15:26 AM
If someone who is addicted is someone in my family, at most I just reprimand him in a normal tone, not harshly, because after all, I don't dare to be rude, even though I also care about him, being rude actually makes the addict more challenged to continue gambling, whereas reprimanding and advising him with Being gentle can make addicts think realistically over time and can change their lives slowly, but this depends on the gambler's own thoughts. If they have the intention to stop and ask for help from their family, I think this can be handled quickly because as a family they will definitely be very supportive of anything. the best for fellow family members.

But if the addict has become rude and arrogant maybe I will also be rude in reminding him, even if it is family, because sometimes addiction can lead to violence, whether towards family or friends, if they experience continuous defeat, they are not easily advised in a gentle way because the addiction has taken over the brain they.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Fredomago on February 17, 2024, 04:47:00 AM
according to the character of the gambling addict, if he is a member of your family of course you already understand his character so you know better which effective way to do it, but in my opinion it is better to use the gentle method first but if you can't use the hard method
If the addicted ones would really be just that inside the family then of course you do really know about its behavior or simply its character on which you would be able to assess whether you would really be taking that harsh approach or would really be sticking into that gentle one but just like been said that it would really be always best that you should really be starting with the gentle one on which you could really be able to make yourself that at least make that someone cant be able to feel that they are really that been choked out or something that been scolded because we know that once an addicted person would be having those kind of impressions then situations might come worst because they might be ending up on playing up more and something that cant be stopped. If things cant be fight off with advises then this is where professional
seek of help would really be that recommended.

Addicted person most of the time has been uncontrollable, if that person is engage in gambling that deep the need of professional is the only hope, there are treatment and approaches that those professional can provide to lessen and probably to make it happen to stop the addiction, not hard and most of the time expensive as there are activities and diets that needed to established to prevent the brain to think about gambling.

Though, all will depends from how the person's self-will and how he will adopt, his willingness is the key factor to success.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: irhact on February 17, 2024, 07:46:39 AM
What gambling addicts need is a personal approach that is relaxed and does not corner them. Because if you force a gambling addict to stop gambling in a harsh way, they will fight you and might leave the house. So a personal approach is probably the best way to convince gambling addicts to stop gambling. But if that method doesn't work, maybe the second method can be used.

You're correct and also taking the addicted individual to see a profession that's incharge of helping addicts overcome their problem will be good. Fighting or being harsh to a gambling addict wouldn't help in any way as they'll be defensive instead of listening to what you're telling them. Gambling addict don't see it like they're doing anything wrong therefore when you talk with them you have to be very friendly. Family members that they love can also help in this situation to talk to them.

Also don't just talk and leave the gambling addict to figure out things by himself, many individuals are addicted due to them not having a good source of income that they can use for feeding therefore if you can provide a good source of income that they can use to be getting money to take care of their needs, it'll help in making them to stop gambling or reduce the amount of money and time they use for gamble.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: mak013 on February 17, 2024, 09:53:02 AM
Living with a gambling addict can be frustrating however a lot of persons actually make the mistake of being hard on them and trying to isolate themselves from them. However it isn't supposed to be so. Of course addiction is a bad thing but love and compassion overtime helps gambling addicts get over their addictions.

It can also be very challenging to try to draw an addict close to yourself but trust me it is the best thing to do as pushing them away makes them feel more lonely and having reasons to gamble more often than normal which not good for their wellbeing.
Of course all cases are different, but i`m sure that love and compassion are the worst thing we can give the gambling addict in the start. First of all he must understand that he made his life awful himself and decide to change his life himself. Only after it we can give him some love. But we must be careful with love - it can destroy all the results.

Being harsh to a gambling addict will only inflict pain on both the loved ones and the addict. Staying caring and lovely with the addicted person helps to bring back the thoughts of the gambler to feel as though human and try to interact politely with people around him. I understand that we are not the cause of the addicted person's problem. But it's fine to say that gambling addiction takes a long time to heal and not everyone would be able to get hold of being kind for that long without losing it. Whatever method a person, loved one, or friend, wants to apply on his addicted friend, being harsh should be a part of it. They are only humans like us, and when they get better the person can be aggressive in the sense that when he was down bad for help, nobody, not even his close friends and family stood there for him. Instead, they applied a harsh method on him. Those attitudes will register on his brain. And he'll never suffer addiction forever. So, how good you treat them matters, because they'll remember it when their mental health gets better.
Punishing a gambler is ineffective. Like you, I value compassion and understanding. Both the addict and their support network are on a journey. Keep in mind the narrow line between support and enabling. I think balance is key. Being kind doesnt imply ignoring bad behavior. Be there, support without judgment, and encourage accountability.

I understand how difficult it is to stay compassionate. Frustration and overwhelm are normal. But thats when support really matters, I say. Set boundaries to safeguard the addict and their family. Supporting pleasurable gambling within limitations emphasizes addiction's complexity. Not vilifying gambling, but encouraging responsible fun. Our treatment of the needy shows our humanity. Every positive connection gives hope in recovery, which is a marathon.
Do you think that giving money and talking with gambling addict will be more useful? If someone ill we call doctor and the treatment mostly at least unpleasant but we have to suffer a bit to get result and become healthy. Why do think that such way is ineffective? The same decision for the same problems.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Mia Chloe on February 17, 2024, 10:05:46 AM
Do you think that giving money and talking with gambling addict will be more useful? If someone ill we call doctor and the treatment mostly at least unpleasant but we have to suffer a bit to get result and become healthy. Why do think that such way is ineffective? The same decision for the same problems.

Going hard on a gambling addict will only make things worse. This is where a whole lot of people get it wrong. If you isolate yourself from an addict that loves you they will be hurt more and sometimes become idle which can even make them become more inclined in wrong gambling activities and practices. Yes it is easier to abandon them than help them but if we really love someone that is caught up in addiction we will definitely find a way to help them out of it.
And of course helping them out by talking to them and Expressing the hurt they cause you is difficult but it is worth helping them also out of an Addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: junder on February 17, 2024, 10:40:25 AM
It may seem like there are a lot of very easy ways to go about helping gambling addicts but the truth is it is not as easy as we sometimes see it especially in cases where the addict in question is too much of a core one. However I believe the best way to go about it is to show them love and compassion. Like I said earlier the reason why pulling an addict out of addiction using compassion is difficult is because you have to be kind to them irrespective of the emotional stress and pain they have put you through as a family member and definitely as humana , sharing love when we are hurting is something that I would classify as Divine.
Addicts cause alot of emotional hurt to family members and the biggest problem is they most times don't realize it until it is far too late.

yes that's right, to help or make them realize their gambling addiction there are indeed many ways, including as you said by showing love and affection to them, that's right. but what must be considered is that someone who is addicted to gambling they can be from someone who tends to be more stubborn, therefore they will not easily accept input, advice from others even with their own family. because with them addicted to gambling they only think about gambling and how they can make money to gamble.

If indeed to be able to help them realize I think it can be by letting them until they themselves experience one thing that really slaps their awareness. because I myself advised someone who was so addicted that he dared to use the money of the shop where he worked that he was tired of advising him because it was like that someone who was addicted would not easily accept advice from others, so therefore I was better off letting him as long as it didn't harm me.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: bangjoe on February 17, 2024, 11:00:35 AM
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yes that's right, to help or make them realize their gambling addiction there are indeed many ways, including as you said by showing love and affection to them, that's right. but what must be considered is that someone who is addicted to gambling they can be from someone who tends to be more stubborn, therefore they will not easily accept input, advice from others even with their own family. because with them addicted to gambling they only think about gambling and how they can make money to gamble.

We have to be patient with someone who is addicted to gambling, because in reality they (gambling addicts) often disappoint their loved ones and the people around them. And it is not easy for a gambling addict to accept the advice we try to give him. Because what he is looking for is not the truth, but justification for his bad actions in gambling. Sometimes they like to distort the true facts and continue to maintain their bad behavior. So when we are not patient enough to face it, maybe everything will end in dispute.

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If indeed to be able to help them realize I think it can be by letting them until they themselves experience one thing that really slaps their awareness. because I myself advised someone who was so addicted that he dared to use the money of the shop where he worked that he was tired of advising him because it was like that someone who was addicted would not easily accept advice from others, so therefore I was better off letting him as long as it didn't harm me.

Don't let things get worse, if we can prevent it why not do it. Even though gambling addicts often disappoint the people around them, to be aware of their bad behavior and the various losses they experience, they really need the role of someone who continues to motivate them and help them to recover from their addiction. .


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on February 17, 2024, 11:18:44 AM
2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.
There are a lot of options you can do but not this. Forcing a person to quit gambling where they are addicted will never make you achieve the goal of stopping them. There should be the right process to conduct to make them stop without forcing them. The right thing to do is to help them by making them realize the important things they need to do or prioritize instead of spending all their time being addicted to gambling. Forcing them will only make them think to spend more time gambling and make them more addicted than their current situation until they are no longer able to help.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Solosanz on February 17, 2024, 11:47:23 AM
I'd choose number 3.

3. Move to a new house and cut off the relationship with him.

It's really dangerous to live with a gambling addict, if he's taking out a loan and can't repay it, the debt collectors aren't only force him to pay off the loan, but the family also get charged too. Imagine you've work so hard, learning everyday, and have invest a lot, but there's a day the debt collector force you to pay off the loan even though you did nothing.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: piebeyb on February 17, 2024, 12:12:15 PM
I'd choose number 3.

3. Move to a new house and cut off the relationship with him.

It's really dangerous to live with a gambling addict, if he's taking out a loan and can't repay it, the debt collectors aren't only force him to pay off the loan, but the family also get charged too. Imagine you've work so hard, learning everyday, and have invest a lot, but there's a day the debt collector force you to pay off the loan even though you did nothing.
What if it was your own house, would you buy a new house only to leave your house and be left with a gambler who could sell your house because you are still related, unless you directly take action as discussed in the thread, yes even if there is It's true that we can get away from him by avoiding him, but he is part of the family, it's best if we can help him get out of his gambling addiction. I'm sure that with gentle methods, gambling addicts can be cured even though it takes a lot of time.

There are so many gambling addicts who can be cured in the right and appropriate way, therefore it is not the right way for us to move house if in the end we can use the right way to cure our family who are addicted to gambling, the point is don't be too uncaring about our family, even though he is a gambler or has made a mistake, he is still part of our family, we should carry out our duty to make him better and aware of his mistakes, that gambling will not be fun in the end, I am sure of That kind of gentle way of advising had helped him become better.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: angrybirdy on February 17, 2024, 12:45:25 PM
I'd choose number 3.

3. Move to a new house and cut off the relationship with him.

It's really dangerous to live with a gambling addict, if he's taking out a loan and can't repay it, the debt collectors aren't only force him to pay off the loan, but the family also get charged too. Imagine you've work so hard, learning everyday, and have invest a lot, but there's a day the debt collector force you to pay off the loan even though you did nothing.
What if it was your own house, would you buy a new house only to leave your house and be left with a gambler who could sell your house because you are still related, unless you directly take action as discussed in the thread, yes even if there is It's true that we can get away from him by avoiding him, but he is part of the family, it's best if we can help him get out of his gambling addiction. I'm sure that with gentle methods, gambling addicts can be cured even though it takes a lot of time.

There are so many gambling addicts who can be cured in the right and appropriate way, therefore it is not the right way for us to move house if in the end we can use the right way to cure our family who are addicted to gambling, the point is don't be too uncaring about our family, even though he is a gambler or has made a mistake, he is still part of our family, we should carry out our duty to make him better and aware of his mistakes, that gambling will not be fun in the end, I am sure of That kind of gentle way of advising had helped him become better.

I agree,what if you are the owner of the house? Are you the one who will adjust just so you can no longer be with the person you want to cut out of your life? It seems like it's better if we don't go through the cut off thing right away, especially if we can go through it in a proper way like helping that person overcome whatever he's going through. In this day, It's easy for us to cut off people around us, especially relatives or family members, but let's also think that somehow you have something good together. Let's understand and help if necessary, it's not bad to help especially if we see improvement and willingness of that person to overcome whatever he is suffering.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Blitzboy on February 17, 2024, 01:44:40 PM
2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.
There are a lot of options you can do but not this. Forcing a person to quit gambling where they are addicted will never make you achieve the goal of stopping them. There should be the right process to conduct to make them stop without forcing them. The right thing to do is to help them by making them realize the important things they need to do or prioritize instead of spending all their time being addicted to gambling. Forcing them will only make them think to spend more time gambling and make them more addicted than their current situation until they are no longer able to help.
Making someone quit? Thats not the solution, its a recipe for disaster. We understand addiction's mechanism, right? The why, not the gambling, matters. You believe pulling them away from the tables helps, but you're actually driving them deeper into the abyss. They need to realize the repercussions of their behavior, but they also need a hand to draw them back, not a push down the rabbit hole.

Show them what they're missing and sacrificing. Relationships, health, future. This is about life choices, not gambling. One can lead a horse to water, but not make it drink. The same applies. Tools, help, and alternatives are available, but true change? From within. They must want it and understand the stakes. You should focus on that, pal.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: slapper on February 17, 2024, 01:51:59 PM
I'd choose number 3.

3. Move to a new house and cut off the relationship with him.

It's really dangerous to live with a gambling addict, if he's taking out a loan and can't repay it, the debt collectors aren't only force him to pay off the loan, but the family also get charged too. Imagine you've work so hard, learning everyday, and have invest a lot, but there's a day the debt collector force you to pay off the loan even though you did nothing.
What if it was your own house, would you buy a new house only to leave your house and be left with a gambler who could sell your house because you are still related, unless you directly take action as discussed in the thread, yes even if there is It's true that we can get away from him by avoiding him, but he is part of the family, it's best if we can help him get out of his gambling addiction. I'm sure that with gentle methods, gambling addicts can be cured even though it takes a lot of time.

There are so many gambling addicts who can be cured in the right and appropriate way, therefore it is not the right way for us to move house if in the end we can use the right way to cure our family who are addicted to gambling, the point is don't be too uncaring about our family, even though he is a gambler or has made a mistake, he is still part of our family, we should carry out our duty to make him better and aware of his mistakes, that gambling will not be fun in the end, I am sure of That kind of gentle way of advising had helped him become better.
Your family-first attitude is admirable. We shouldn't view addiction through rose-colored glasses. You're right: gentle ways can heal gambling addiction. It's a route of relapses and heartbreak. Addiction, property, and life are linked. Ignoring one for another? That's like using a teacup to stop a flood. Setting boundaries, not uncaring. Hard, crisp lines. He is family. Enabling destructive behavior is harmful. It's difficult love, not desertion

Intervention, professional aid, support groups are your weapons. Use them. Remember that curing addiction requires knowing why you gamble. Get dirty, dive deep. It's the only way to show him life's value beyond gambling. Genuine care


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: 348Judah on February 17, 2024, 02:02:15 PM
2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.
There are a lot of options you can do but not this. Forcing a person to quit gambling where they are addicted will never make you achieve the goal of stopping them. There should be the right process to conduct to make them stop without forcing them. The right thing to do is to help them by making them realize the important things they need to do or prioritize instead of spending all their time being addicted to gambling. Forcing them will only make them think to spend more time gambling and make them more addicted than their current situation until they are no longer able to help.

When they are not children, how do we expect force to work on a grown up adult, that is not a good method enough to use in controlling them from gambling addiction, if using force had been effective, then i don't think anyone else will be see being addicted with gambling because as soon as we see them going outrageous in gambling, we will try to apply force and then they will change but things are not going the way we sometimes thought, so as you've also pointed out, we can't apply force on anyone to stop o quit gambling all because of addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Solosanz on February 18, 2024, 05:58:32 AM
What if it was your own house, would you buy a new house only to leave your house and be left with a gambler who could sell your house because you are still related, unless you directly take action as discussed in the thread, yes even if there is It's true that we can get away from him by avoiding him, but he is part of the family, it's best if we can help him get out of his gambling addiction. I'm sure that with gentle methods, gambling addicts can be cured even though it takes a lot of time.
That's even better, I can force him to completely stop gambling, but if he can't accept my rules, I can kick him because my house my rules.

If he use my house as his collateral when he take out a loan, then I won't forgive him entire of my life, the problem isn't the amount, but he's already a bad person and will do anything bad regardless how good you treated him.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Webetcoins on February 18, 2024, 09:12:23 AM
What gambling addicts need is a personal approach that is relaxed and does not corner them. Because if you force a gambling addict to stop gambling in a harsh way, they will fight you and might leave the house. So a personal approach is probably the best way to convince gambling addicts to stop gambling. But if that method doesn't work, maybe the second method can be used.
The second method shouldn't be used because it's useless, you can't force someone to stop doing something unless they are willing to leave it themselves because, by force, they might show that they have left it, but once they have no one around, they will do the thing again because they were forced for it and they didn't do it themselves. So realization is the main thing in this matter, which is why one should try and make them realize that they are doing it the wrong way.

If the gambler doesn't realize that they are getting in trouble because of gambling and that they need to stop or at least reduce their gambling activities, they will never stop no matter what they do. So, sitting with them and explaining things in a proper way with love and affection might work, force won't work in this situation.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Accardo on February 18, 2024, 10:22:49 AM
Being harsh to a gambling addict will only inflict pain on both the loved ones and the addict. Staying caring and lovely with the addicted person helps to bring back the thoughts of the gambler to feel as though human and try to interact politely with people around him. I understand that we are not the cause of the addicted person's problem. But it's fine to say that gambling addiction takes a long time to heal and not everyone would be able to get hold of being kind for that long without losing it. Whatever method a person, loved one, or friend, wants to apply on his addicted friend, being harsh should be a part of it. They are only humans like us, and when they get better the person can be aggressive in the sense that when he was down bad for help, nobody, not even his close friends and family stood there for him. Instead, they applied a harsh method on him. Those attitudes will register on his brain. And he'll never suffer addiction forever. So, how good you treat them matters, because they'll remember it when their mental health gets better.
Punishing a gambler is ineffective. Like you, I value compassion and understanding. Both the addict and their support network are on a journey. Keep in mind the narrow line between support and enabling. I think balance is key. Being kind doesnt imply ignoring bad behavior. Be there, support without judgment, and encourage accountability.

I understand how difficult it is to stay compassionate. Frustration and overwhelm are normal. But thats when support really matters, I say. Set boundaries to safeguard the addict and their family. Supporting pleasurable gambling within limitations emphasizes addiction's complexity. Not vilifying gambling, but encouraging responsible fun. Our treatment of the needy shows our humanity. Every positive connection gives hope in recovery, which is a marathon.

The marathon continues as far as after recovery, it's a very long one. But the load of stress reduces as the journey gets closer to an end. It's all a collective effort and everyone need to accept their responsibility on such problems. Be it a friend or family, he's to be taken good care of and handled as he was, when his health was in order. That's enough of therapy for the victim, so that he wouldn't be bothered about the pains and troubles he's undergoing. At least the people he most love, are with him and also award him their advice and loving kindness. Such a good live helps to reduce the trouble and help them get used to the problem. Why most people who don't care about the health of their addicted friend do so, is because of the difficulty in interpersonal relationship. They blame and criticize the addict, thereby breaking the friendship bond between them.



Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: mak013 on February 18, 2024, 06:55:14 PM
Do you think that giving money and talking with gambling addict will be more useful? If someone ill we call doctor and the treatment mostly at least unpleasant but we have to suffer a bit to get result and become healthy. Why do think that such way is ineffective? The same decision for the same problems.

Going hard on a gambling addict will only make things worse. This is where a whole lot of people get it wrong. If you isolate yourself from an addict that loves you they will be hurt more and sometimes become idle which can even make them become more inclined in wrong gambling activities and practices. Yes it is easier to abandon them than help them but if we really love someone that is caught up in addiction we will definitely find a way to help them out of it.
And of course helping them out by talking to them and Expressing the hurt they cause you is difficult but it is worth helping them also out of an Addiction.
I don`t believe in it. I saw several situations with people i knew - love never helped. The only positive result i saw the all time was stable punishment for every mistake, every try of returning to his habits. It isn`t guarantee method too, but it gives more chances for addict to stop it. May be someone else has another stats, but i can say about what i see. There is no place for love when you heal someone. Just do what you have to do.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: SeriouslyGiveaway on February 22, 2024, 06:24:43 AM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
I think we should combine both, being soft in words and tough in actions. People are often easily hurt and counteraction when receiving harsh advice or criticism. Instead, we should talk and advise them gently, slowly helping them understand what they do how impact  on their family? Being tough in action means being determined not to sponsor money and taking specific actions to cut off his gambling connections from friends or people who invite him to gamble. We must be flexible in how we advise others, especially those who are addicted and disoriented, because their minds are not in the best state to receive opinions from others.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Solidized on February 22, 2024, 07:22:23 AM
A gambling addict always think he would make it through gambling despite his or her loses, the idea is that one day will be their day. so to help such people as a member I think is to draw them closer show them some love so they will have interest to what ever ought to say to them. let them know that it's not as they think, give them a constructive reason why they have to leave it because gambling is a thing of 50/50 chance. many people are in mess today because of gambling


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: harapan on February 22, 2024, 09:58:18 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

The both will play an important role in moulding and shaping the person back again,you use both tactics in this situation because firstly,it's not a thing to joke cause it's pertaining funds and all of that .
When you use the number 1,most times they will just be playing with your effort cause it looking like your pampering them and giving them what they wants so they might not have a u turn.

But paradventure this one doesn't work,so a tendency you use the number 2,by being harsh and brutal to them so as for them to see the efficacy of what they are doing ,that way it will give then an enlightened mind that yeah you mean business with this.
So if it doesn't work the calm way,you apply the reverse and it will surely be effective and of good use.
So I think the two should be put into consideration and action as regarding this issue of gambling addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: goinmerry on February 22, 2024, 11:14:33 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.

It depends on the level of addiction that a gambler is currently experiencing with.

If you think that a person's addiction is still on the level of being tolerable and manageable, you can consider being harsh as they will still understand and realize what's going on after being pounded with a harsh action towards their gambling addiction.

But if you think that a person is currently in a state that you can consider as critical level and needs immediate help, talk to them softly and nicely as much as you can. Putting harsh action on those people on that critical level state might trigger their eagerness to just continue gambling since they will feel they are left out.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 22, 2024, 12:40:54 PM
A gambling addict always think he would make it through gambling despite his or her loses, the idea is that one day will be their day. so to help such people as a member I think is to draw them closer show them some love so they will have interest to what ever ought to say to them. let them know that it's not as they think, give them a constructive reason why they have to leave it because gambling is a thing of 50/50 chance. many people are in mess today because of gambling
Even if he lose, he will hard to pass the gambling because he wants to retur to the gambling to recover his losses. Other family members need to get closer to that gambling addict and try to show their good intention to help the addict. If the addict can see that their family member really wants to help the addicts, he will try to open himself and grab their hands. Together, they will try to solve his gambling addiction without hesitant because they are one big family that want to help each other.

If his family members can show their empathy to the addict, he will want to listen what his family members tell and follow it because that gives a good for him. Yes, it needs patience to help the addict to solve his problem but it's worth doing that as the addict will see how strong their bonds and not thinking about what he already did because his family wants to help him to solve his gambling addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: junder on February 22, 2024, 03:40:11 PM
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yes that's right, to help or make them realize their gambling addiction there are indeed many ways, including as you said by showing love and affection to them, that's right. but what must be considered is that someone who is addicted to gambling they can be from someone who tends to be more stubborn, therefore they will not easily accept input, advice from others even with their own family. because with them addicted to gambling they only think about gambling and how they can make money to gamble.

We have to be patient with someone who is addicted to gambling, because in reality they (gambling addicts) often disappoint their loved ones and the people around them. And it is not easy for a gambling addict to accept the advice we try to give him. Because what he is looking for is not the truth, but justification for his bad actions in gambling. Sometimes they like to distort the true facts and continue to maintain their bad behavior. So when we are not patient enough to face it, maybe everything will end in dispute.

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If indeed to be able to help them realize I think it can be by letting them until they themselves experience one thing that really slaps their awareness. because I myself advised someone who was so addicted that he dared to use the money of the shop where he worked that he was tired of advising him because it was like that someone who was addicted would not easily accept advice from others, so therefore I was better off letting him as long as it didn't harm me.

Don't let things get worse, if we can prevent it why not do it. Even though gambling addicts often disappoint the people around them, to be aware of their bad behavior and the various losses they experience, they really need the role of someone who continues to motivate them and help them to recover from their addiction. .

It is true that we must be patient in dealing with an addict who has to change his habits, because indeed someone who is addicted must be cured, especially if the addicted to gambling is a relative or brother. It is true that you said it is not easy to accept advice from others for the addict because their thoughts only think about gambling so they might ignore other things that they think are not important But have you ever thought about someone who advises him that will be upset because his advice is not responded well?

The fact is that gambling  can harm yourself and others because if you do excessive gambling it can harm a person's life and can lead to bad things it is true that you say they need the role of someone who continues to provide advice and motivation  but to be aware of it must be in themselves first. Because in my opinion even though they get encouragement to recover from gambling it is difficult for them to be aware if they do not have awareness themselves.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Fredomago on February 22, 2024, 04:38:02 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.

It depends on the level of addiction that a gambler is currently experiencing with.

If you think that a person's addiction is still on the level of being tolerable and manageable, you can consider being harsh as they will still understand and realize what's going on after being pounded with a harsh action towards their gambling addiction.

But if you think that a person is currently in a state that you can consider as critical level and needs immediate help, talk to them softly and nicely as much as you can. Putting harsh action on those people on that critical level state might trigger their eagerness to just continue gambling since they will feel they are left out.

I like your point as there's a need to use reverse psychology to get their attention. Since you are living in the same place, you might have the idea of what kind of attitude the person has, you can take the type of approach according to how you believe the person will comply, and by that same concept, depending on the level of addiction, if you feel that the person already in deep place of his addiction and an immediate help to stop him a help from an expert may work after you talk and explain if how you can help and what are the possibilities to move away from this kind of vices.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Fatunad on February 22, 2024, 04:46:03 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.

It depends on the level of addiction that a gambler is currently experiencing with.

If you think that a person's addiction is still on the level of being tolerable and manageable, you can consider being harsh as they will still understand and realize what's going on after being pounded with a harsh action towards their gambling addiction.

But if you think that a person is currently in a state that you can consider as critical level and needs immediate help, talk to them softly and nicely as much as you can. Putting harsh action on those people on that critical level state might trigger their eagerness to just continue gambling since they will feel they are left out.
Yes,it wouldnt really be that still on the sense that it on alerting but its not that bad to make out those kind of advises or telling them about possibilities of addiction. Yes, they might get that
offended whenever you might be saying up those words but at least you had made out some warnings and advises on which they cant blame you out that you didnt tell them specially if the said person is really that
inside the family then it would really be that just right that you should really be in concern with your loved ones situation since we know that gambling addiction could really give out such impact.

For other people who arent close to us then for sure we wont really be showing any care for them but for those who are close to us or loved ones then its normal that we would really be
having a different approach. There are ones who are really that too in concern with other peoples conditions and there are ones who dont really care.
So its up to you in the end of the day on how you would really be telling them up.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: moneystery on February 22, 2024, 05:12:33 PM
There are a lot of options you can do but not this. Forcing a person to quit gambling where they are addicted will never make you achieve the goal of stopping them. There should be the right process to conduct to make them stop without forcing them. The right thing to do is to help them by making them realize the important things they need to do or prioritize instead of spending all their time being addicted to gambling. Forcing them will only make them think to spend more time gambling and make them more addicted than their current situation until they are no longer able to help.

i also think that forcing someone not to gamble is the same as making them even angrier and will actually fight us. the approach taken should be with understanding and empathy, where we should be able to advise them face to face. if they still resist in the process, give him more advice and don't allow him to gamble more than he can afford. because stones that are dripped with water will also change shape, like people who are addicted, if we continue to give advice and empathize with them, maybe it will help them to soften and reduce the intensity of their gambling.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: pawanjain on February 23, 2024, 05:12:57 PM
A gambling addict always think he would make it through gambling despite his or her loses, the idea is that one day will be their day. so to help such people as a member I think is to draw them closer show them some love so they will have interest to what ever ought to say to them. let them know that it's not as they think, give them a constructive reason why they have to leave it because gambling is a thing of 50/50 chance. many people are in mess today because of gambling
Even if he lose, he will hard to pass the gambling because he wants to retur to the gambling to recover his losses. Other family members need to get closer to that gambling addict and try to show their good intention to help the addict. If the addict can see that their family member really wants to help the addicts, he will try to open himself and grab their hands. Together, they will try to solve his gambling addiction without hesitant because they are one big family that want to help each other.

If his family members can show their empathy to the addict, he will want to listen what his family members tell and follow it because that gives a good for him. Yes, it needs patience to help the addict to solve his problem but it's worth doing that as the addict will see how strong their bonds and not thinking about what he already did because his family wants to help him to solve his gambling addiction.

Love can many problems and the kind of love we receive from our closed ones forces us to obey what they say.
If a gambler is becoming addicted to gambling then only their loved ones can solve this problem.
Going to rehabs can help but staying with family heals better.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: agustina2 on February 23, 2024, 05:26:25 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.

Before taking action, we should determine first the overall status of that person.

Is he still in his normal self when being talked with?
Is he responding politely and kindly to your statements?
Is he still acting like the person you know from the start?

Giving harsh advice should only be considered depending on how close you are to that person.

Not all relatives are close to each other and open on any issues to discuss.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Unbunplease on February 23, 2024, 05:26:32 PM
It is very difficult to fight game addiction. In my opinion, it is necessary to find some alternative for a person - for example, you need to take him out to nature, where there is no access to the Internet, at least for 2-3 weeks. It is also necessary to offer sports activities, trips to cultural events, blogging (if a gamer starts blogging, his addiction will even pay off).


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Quidat on February 23, 2024, 05:57:24 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.

Before taking action, we should determine first the overall status of that person.

Is he still in his normal self when being talked with?
Is he responding politely and kindly to your statements?
Is he still acting like the person you know from the start?

Giving harsh advice should only be considered depending on how close you are to that person.

Not all relatives are close to each other and open on any issues to discuss.
Those things wont be hard if the addicted person would be inside the family on which it has been mentioned but if not then it would really be needing up to assess those questions first beforehand.
If it turns out that you would really be having a friend that have some gambling problems then it would be something that normal as a friend on giving out those advises of course
but it wont really be that enough if that certain person wont really be that realizing his mistakes because this is where things turns out to be hard when that someone
doesnt really have the plans on quitting on the first place and this is something that you should really be considering out first whether you should continue on reaching on him or not.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Issa56 on February 23, 2024, 06:18:40 PM
1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.
I think this is just the best approach to tackle that, you have to tell them the disadvantages of gambling addiction and give them reasons why they should stop it. Tell them things that will make them lose interest in gambling, but if you are planning to force them, then you won’t be able to achieve any result. All that will happen is that they will be gambling, but they will make it hidden, which is not going to solve the problem. If you want to stop an addicted gambler from gambling, first you should make them lose interest in gambling, they should have the mindset to stop gambling, then make sure you start doing things that will shift their attention away from gambling, spend time with them, and do things that will always make them happy.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Weawant on February 23, 2024, 06:56:38 PM
i also think that forcing someone not to gamble is the same as making them even angrier and will actually fight us. the approach taken should be with understanding and empathy, where we should be able to advise them face to face. if they still resist in the process, give him more advice and don't allow him to gamble more than he can afford. because stones that are dripped with water will also change shape, like people who are addicted, if we continue to give advice and empathize with them, maybe it will help them to soften and reduce the intensity of their gambling.
Approaching someone with a forceful move in order to stop them from gambling is a very wrong move to ever start with because asides gambling, generally if you want to stop someone from doing something, using force will literally do more harm than good as some of such person will become very defensive or turn it into a challenge to see what you are capable of doing to them if they don't  quit gambling or anything which you are trying to get them to stop doing.

Approach is a very important factor when it comes to helping someone quit that which you see and feel is doing them more harm than good, if you have got the best approach, I'm very sure you can get them to quit that which you intend they quit with like little or no stress because such person will give a listening ear and some taughts if the approach is such that they can real relate with well enough , applying empathy just like did mentioned is actually very effective,. because by such, the person understands that you are very much concerned about their well being and that's why you had brought up the fact that you would want the to quit and then they can put into consideration your suggestions to quitting but a wrong approach will give wrong results a d that which you intended cannot be achieved.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: arimamib on February 23, 2024, 08:42:12 PM
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i also think that forcing someone not to gamble is the same as making them even angrier and will actually fight us. the approach taken should be with understanding and empathy, where we should be able to advise them face to face. if they still resist in the process, give him more advice and don't allow him to gamble more than he can afford. because stones that are dripped with water will also change shape, like people who are addicted, if we continue to give advice and empathize with them, maybe it will help them to soften and reduce the intensity of their gambling.
Completely agree.. Attempting to force someone to stop gambling without understanding their underlying motivations and struggles is likely to provoke resistance and potentially exacerbate the situation. Empathy and a non-judgmental approach are essential in helping individuals with gambling addiction. Face-to-face conversations allows for a deeper understanding of the gambler's challenges and provides an opportunity to offer support and guidance.

We can help prevent them from falling deeper into addiction by offering advice and practical assistance, such as setting limits on gambling activities. Compassionate support consistently can gradually influence a person's behavior and mindset that can lead to positive changes over time. It's crucial to persist in our efforts to help them, even if progress seems slow, because every small step forward is a victory in the battle against addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: HelliumZ on February 23, 2024, 08:51:56 PM
There are many professional gamblers living around me and I can't misbehave with them because by misbehaving with them I can't stop them from this gambling addiction but if I can maintain a cooperative and friendly relationship with them I can definitely get better feedback from them.
Sometimes the gambler's family members hang out with my family members and I try to maintain a good social relationship with them. Sometimes I try to solve the financial problems of the family members of those gamblers. I cannot socially misbehave with gambling family members as it is not in the social code to misbehave with them.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Orpichukwu on February 23, 2024, 09:18:33 PM
A gambling addict always think he would make it through gambling despite his or her loses, the idea is that one day will be their day. so to help such people as a member I think is to draw them closer show them some love so they will have interest to what ever ought to say to them. let them know that it's not as they think, give them a constructive reason why they have to leave it because gambling is a thing of 50/50 chance. many people are in mess today because of gambling
Gambling addiction is just a very bad thing, and anyone who is addicted needs their family and friends support more than ever because it's not easy for them to pull out of it alone. Those who are close to them are the ones who can talk them out of it, stay close to them, and distract them from gambling. 
 
But another thing about some gambling addicts that makes it difficult to help them is that most of them don't even agree to the fact that they are addicted. Even when you point it out to them, they still argue that they are still on their normal gambling behaviour, which makes it harder for such people to learn and be corrected. 


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Westinhome on February 23, 2024, 09:36:16 PM

I think this is just the best approach to tackle that, you have to tell them the disadvantages of gambling addiction and give them reasons why they should stop it. Tell them things that will make them lose interest in gambling, but if you are planning to force them, then you won’t be able to achieve any result. All that will happen is that they will be gambling, but they will make it hidden, which is not going to solve the problem. If you want to stop an addicted gambler from gambling, first you should make them lose interest in gambling, they should have the mindset to stop gambling, then make sure you start doing things that will shift their attention away from gambling, spend time with them, and do things that will always make them happy.

The gambling addicted person never try to recover from the gambling site,because they had face some big winning in the gambling site after a loss.But the important one is the gambler will not withdraw the funds from the gambling site,mostly they get greedy in making money in the gambling site.Because the gambling site also allow the gamblers to make money in the gambling site,if they really ready to understand the game.The gambler should try to withdraw the funds to their bank wallet after the winning was completed,because the next game will blast the gambler winning money in the gambling site.The gambler should not get more temptation to play the more game in the gambling site,because mostly the gamblers get huge temptation for the next game in the gambling site.So better gamblers withdraw funds after big win and go to the movie to have some fun.This will help the gamblers to get away from the gambling addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: AmoreJaz on February 23, 2024, 09:44:42 PM
There are many professional gamblers living around me and I can't misbehave with them because by misbehaving with them I can't stop them from this gambling addiction but if I can maintain a cooperative and friendly relationship with them I can definitely get better feedback from them.
Sometimes the gambler's family members hang out with my family members and I try to maintain a good social relationship with them. Sometimes I try to solve the financial problems of the family members of those gamblers. I cannot socially misbehave with gambling family members as it is not in the social code to misbehave with them.

How are you solving the financial problems of the family members of the those gamblers? Are you suggesting them what to do or lending them money? To be honest, hard to meddle someone else's financial troubles. So wondering here what financial actions are you offering to their families?

It is very difficult to fight game addiction. In my opinion, it is necessary to find some alternative for a person - for example, you need to take him out to nature, where there is no access to the Internet, at least for 2-3 weeks. It is also necessary to offer sports activities, trips to cultural events, blogging (if a gamer starts blogging, his addiction will even pay off).

I believe, it is better to understand first why he is being addicted in gambling. Because finding the reason why he's into this activity will give you insights on how to help the gambler to possibly get out of the situation. Understand his reasonings and all, will help you assist him address his dilemma in gambling.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Promocodeudo on February 23, 2024, 09:46:01 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

The first thing you noted is the best approach to follow in other to help a gambling addict, for you to get an addicted gambler into talking terms you must show them love and make them understand the reason why they should quit gambling totally since is not good for them, talking to an addicted gambler in a hard manner won't solve the problem instead it will worsen matter, the gambler will see you as an enemy but if you approach him in a light manner he may see reason with you, addiction is not something we can stop by force, techniques needs to be applied in other to get it right if not the situation will worsened.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: fullhdpixel on February 24, 2024, 02:26:54 PM
Making someone quit? Thats not the solution, its a recipe for disaster. We understand addiction's mechanism, right? The why, not the gambling, matters. You believe pulling them away from the tables helps, but you're actually driving them deeper into the abyss. They need to realize the repercussions of their behavior, but they also need a hand to draw them back, not a push down the rabbit hole.

Show them what they're missing and sacrificing. Relationships, health, future. This is about life choices, not gambling. One can lead a horse to water, but not make it drink. The same applies. Tools, help, and alternatives are available, but true change? From within. They must want it and understand the stakes. You should focus on that, pal.
That's probably the better way to solve such a problem because forcing isn't a solution as the gambler might stop gambling in front of the people who are forcing him to stop gambling but that wouldn't make them leave it and he will keep doing it on the back when there is no one around because, of course, you can't isolate them and give them no basic facilities at all as that isn't a way to deal with the situation.

So, people around the person who is addicted to gambling should handle the situation with wisdom and calmness instead of getting angry, scolding the addict, and forcing them to stop gambling because that isn't going to work but it will make the matter worse.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 24, 2024, 04:37:05 PM
Love can many problems and the kind of love we receive from our closed ones forces us to obey what they say.
If a gambler is becoming addicted to gambling then only their loved ones can solve this problem.
Going to rehabs can help but staying with family heals better.
Too much loves will kill you ;D
The important think is the addicted can open their minds and accept the help from people around them, including their family members or people that they loved. If they can show their support to the addict, he will see that he is not alone to solve his problem because his closed ones will help him and always support him. They will go to the rehabilitation with the addict and search the right method to heal the addiction. Love, support, and effort will awaken the addict to see that he still has a chance to recover from his gambling addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: bitvalak on February 24, 2024, 06:03:03 PM
Option number 2 for me is the best way. Forcing them to stop will make them think logically and in the end they will make their choice.
If it uses a gentle approach, it will not be able to enter into its logic and assume we are just delaying it to stop gambling. No matter how rude it is, we definitely still care about the addiction he is experiencing.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 24, 2024, 09:41:00 PM
There are many people who believe that things work out the wrong way, but I think that treating them badly is not the solution, because things can basically turn out very badly for those who want to do it that way. I think that now people They have to take things more calmly, talk and let it be seen that talking things turn out better, agreements are reached, treating badly I believe that what a person is going to cause is trauma and what they have from the addiction is enough And well, it is not fair and something that people should see, some do not consider it, but come on, if some person is somewhat volatile in their decisions, then they are a person who cannot be pulled hard or forced, because we do not know what It is or will be the reaction, all people are not equal.

You must also consider the type of personality of each person , it is Different to treat a Person with a strong temperament than a Person with a soft temperament, all this has to be done with great tact and well to get out of all this you have to always consider the help of a professional, we as normal people without this type of studies do not know what damage we can cause to people who are in an addiction.

An addict has a very clear thought about what should be done, how they are going to do it and what they can do to get more money and to get more ways to play, that is obvious but it is considered that things like this have to be treated very hard. tact, in that aspect it would be the most correct decision to make, as a person who is not a professional in psychology the most you can give is general advice, because we do not know or understand how they handle problems, stress and pressure. people.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: carlfebz2 on February 24, 2024, 09:47:40 PM
Option number 2 for me is the best way. Forcing them to stop will make them think logically and in the end they will make their choice.
If it uses a gentle approach, it will not be able to enter into its logic and assume we are just delaying it to stop gambling. No matter how rude it is, we definitely still care about the addiction he is experiencing.
When option 1 didnt work then you would be coming up for option 2 and if it doesnt work then any options should be used but if it turns out that its useless then there's nothing we can do about it but to accept that they are really pushing up the things that they do have in mind but if we are dealing with someone whose in our family then it would really be just that right that we should really be that in concern on helping
them because we do know that full risks and danger of gambling addiction on which it is something that shouldnt really be ignored about because once things become worst then we do know on what would be
the potential effects or damage into someone. This is why it would really be that best that we should really be attentive whenever we do see someone who do have this kind of problem and also with
every problems that arises.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Fredomago on February 26, 2024, 07:20:19 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

The first thing you noted is the best approach to follow in other to help a gambling addict, for you to get an addicted gambler into talking terms you must show them love and make them understand the reason why they should quit gambling totally since is not good for them, talking to an addicted gambler in a hard manner won't solve the problem instead it will worsen matter, the gambler will see you as an enemy but if you approach him in a light manner he may see reason with you, addiction is not something we can stop by force, techniques needs to be applied in other to get it right if not the situation will worsened.

Most of the time it works but in some cases addicted gambler use that compassion to abuse those people who are caring with them, they keep doing the same thing even how hard you try to talk and make them realize the bad side effects of gambling, if you are living inside the same house chances that you already knows what kind of an approach to use, though personally, I'll go with the mild and cool conversation and keep trying to let them feel that they are important and there are many other  things in life that they can focus instead of wasting time and money inside gambling.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: mak013 on February 28, 2024, 01:45:03 PM
Option number 2 for me is the best way. Forcing them to stop will make them think logically and in the end they will make their choice.
If it uses a gentle approach, it will not be able to enter into its logic and assume we are just delaying it to stop gambling. No matter how rude it is, we definitely still care about the addiction he is experiencing.
When option 1 didnt work then you would be coming up for option 2 and if it doesnt work then any options should be used but if it turns out that its useless then there's nothing we can do about it but to accept that they are really pushing up the things that they do have in mind but if we are dealing with someone whose in our family then it would really be just that right that we should really be that in concern on helping
them because we do know that full risks and danger of gambling addiction on which it is something that shouldnt really be ignored about because once things become worst then we do know on what would be
the potential effects or damage into someone. This is why it would really be that best that we should really be attentive whenever we do see someone who do have this kind of problem and also with
every problems that arises.
Don`t waste time, use option 2 from the beginning. When you try to care about adult he mostly feel himself like a victim, but don`t think that if was his decision to gamble. If you choose option 2 you don`t give him such illusion - he must understand that he brake his life himself and he can change it only himself.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Ever-young on February 28, 2024, 02:51:01 PM
There are a lot of options you can do but not this. Forcing a person to quit gambling where they are addicted will never make you achieve the goal of stopping them. There should be the right process to conduct to make them stop without forcing them. The right thing to do is to help them by making them realize the important things they need to do or prioritize instead of spending all their time being addicted to gambling. Forcing them will only make them think to spend more time gambling and make them more addicted than their current situation until they are no longer able to help.

i also think that forcing someone not to gamble is the same as making them even angrier and will actually fight us. the approach taken should be with understanding and empathy, where we should be able to advise them face to face. if they still resist in the process, give him more advice and don't allow him to gamble more than he can afford. because stones that are dripped with water will also change shape, like people who are addicted, if we continue to give advice and empathize with them, maybe it will help them to soften and reduce the intensity of their gambling.
It should come as no surprise that forcing someone to stop gambling against their will can backfire, resulting in increased frustration and resentment. Taking the time to speak with them face to face and offer advise and support is far more likely to have a positive impact. And an analogy of the stone being shaped by water over time is extremely powerful; it implies that change is possible, but it requires patience and persistence.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: rahmad2nd on February 28, 2024, 05:09:16 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

Remember, basically handling each case is not necessarily the same for each individual. whether it's violence, or in a gentle way. Before we try to help, especially if they are family, we must first know the person's character, what methods we can apply to them. anyway, there is nothing better than these two options if it is not based on a method for finding the solution. IMO, if that happened to my side of the family, I would first look for the root of the problem so I know why he became an addict. whatever the type of addiction, an addict is still an addict, including gambling. after that, I will discuss with the family to find a good solution. however, it must start with a persuasive approach first. and it is not advisable, to be rashly rude. because usually it doesn't solve a problem, but has the potential to even cause disagreements between the family.

So as I said, I will prioritize a persuasive approach to find out more about the triggers and initial problems. because, there are many cases where someone becomes a gambler due to problems that occur to that person. Well, before we focus on how to help or handle it. we need to know the main trigger, after that we can trace how to bring our brother back to normal recovery. so, nothing is better than the two options you offered from your question. Basically, if we are basically moved to help, the pattern is as I said at the beginning. after that, provide understanding, knowledge, and how to form responsibilities. If it doesn't work, other methods can be used, in other words sending him to rehabilitation. even then, with the approval of the main figure in our discussion. so, it's not as simple as we say or discuss.



Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Gheka on February 28, 2024, 06:16:45 PM
There are a lot of options you can do but not this. Forcing a person to quit gambling where they are addicted will never make you achieve the goal of stopping them. There should be the right process to conduct to make them stop without forcing them. The right thing to do is to help them by making them realize the important things they need to do or prioritize instead of spending all their time being addicted to gambling. Forcing them will only make them think to spend more time gambling and make them more addicted than their current situation until they are no longer able to help.

i also think that forcing someone not to gamble is the same as making them even angrier and will actually fight us. the approach taken should be with understanding and empathy, where we should be able to advise them face to face. if they still resist in the process, give him more advice and don't allow him to gamble more than he can afford. because stones that are dripped with water will also change shape, like people who are addicted, if we continue to give advice and empathize with them, maybe it will help them to soften and reduce the intensity of their gambling.
It should come as no surprise that forcing someone to stop gambling against their will can backfire, resulting in increased frustration and resentment. Taking the time to speak with them face to face and offer advise and support is far more likely to have a positive impact. And an analogy of the stone being shaped by water over time is extremely powerful; it implies that change is possible, but it requires patience and persistence.
An introverted lifestyle shows a less communicative personality and even if we talk more to them, the story is just our presentation, it does not condense any other thoughts for them when they are just an emotional trash can and only know how to listen to a story and experience advice, they are not connected by such stories, their world is too special and prevents anyone from entering. Helping them can only lead them to experience the outside world more, like they need to find the rope to overcome difficult emotions inside without needing others to give them a clear path.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Die_empty on February 28, 2024, 07:10:05 PM
It should come as no surprise that forcing someone to stop gambling against their will can backfire, resulting in increased frustration and resentment. Taking the time to speak with them face to face and offer advise and support is far more likely to have a positive impact. And an analogy of the stone being shaped by water over time is extremely powerful; it implies that change is possible, but it requires patience and persistence.
Gambling is for adults and you cannot force a grown up not to engage in what he seems fit for him. Adults should be allowed to make decisions that relate to their life activities. But when it is clear that an individual needs some level of coercion to make some important decisions, he should be forced to do it.

Some gambling addicts will never accept that they need help and will never accept advice or a soft approach. Such individuals can be forced to make some hard choices such as seclusion or visiting some addiction experts. There are times when you have to force people to take action because they might not the importance now but might later understand that you were just helping.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: angrybirdy on February 28, 2024, 08:44:04 PM
There are a lot of options you can do but not this. Forcing a person to quit gambling where they are addicted will never make you achieve the goal of stopping them. There should be the right process to conduct to make them stop without forcing them. The right thing to do is to help them by making them realize the important things they need to do or prioritize instead of spending all their time being addicted to gambling. Forcing them will only make them think to spend more time gambling and make them more addicted than their current situation until they are no longer able to help.

i also think that forcing someone not to gamble is the same as making them even angrier and will actually fight us. the approach taken should be with understanding and empathy, where we should be able to advise them face to face. if they still resist in the process, give him more advice and don't allow him to gamble more than he can afford. because stones that are dripped with water will also change shape, like people who are addicted, if we continue to give advice and empathize with them, maybe it will help them to soften and reduce the intensity of their gambling.
It should come as no surprise that forcing someone to stop gambling against their will can backfire, resulting in increased frustration and resentment. Taking the time to speak with them face to face and offer advise and support is far more likely to have a positive impact. And an analogy of the stone being shaped by water over time is extremely powerful; it implies that change is possible, but it requires patience and persistence.

Definitely changes from an addicted person is truly possible by the help of having a lot of patience and persistence but I assume that it will also take a lot of time before they overcome this addiction. Speaking with them by face to face is one of the best way to guide and to help them because if you only know, that's what doctors like psychologists do mostly, they talk and give a lot of advice to a person so that he remembers again and again that what he does needs to be limited, in this way, a person's time is reduced in gambling.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: yazher on February 29, 2024, 12:56:33 PM
Sometimes it depends on their behavior because if you see them at their worst, then you need to act quickly without making any introduction anymore since they are not gonna listen to you anymore and this sometimes results in aggression you need to be ready for that. But if you see them slightly addicted and you want them to change, then nicely talk to them to avoid any misunderstanding because if you provoke them more, it will lead to their rebellion, and won't gonna listen to anybody anymore. that's why we have lots of people who ran away from home because of traumatic experiences and also some of them are also at fault since they don't listen to their parents and sibling's advice.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 02, 2024, 10:18:21 PM
Sometimes it depends on their behavior because if you see them at their worst, then you need to act quickly without making any introduction anymore since they are not gonna listen to you anymore and this sometimes results in aggression you need to be ready for that. But if you see them slightly addicted and you want them to change, then nicely talk to them to avoid any misunderstanding because if you provoke them more, it will lead to their rebellion, and won't gonna listen to anybody anymore. that's why we have lots of people who ran away from home because of traumatic experiences and also some of them are also at fault since they don't listen to their parents and sibling's advice.

Well the idea is to know how to get into a person like that because it's not that easy either, this thing about being addicted is sometimes Difficult because they are locked in their World and if you come and tell them: "Don't play anymore because it's going to hurt you" They are capable of getting very angry, I try to see the behavior and tell them how they are doing, that if there is a way to reduce the game to do thing, I invite her to play soccer, and I invite her to do a sport that I know is going to be tiring, for example cycling, cycling demands a lot and if there is no bicycle, then it is easier, I tell her that we go run, to jog, or walk very far so that you get tired , and with that you see landscapes or something like that, so that you breathe fresh air and keep your mind with another type of vision, and not the one you always have of doing things like this to get tired , because if the person gets tired it is much easier for them to react by stopping little by little from playing.

If the person Starts playing less frequently, they can make things turn out much better because it is a way for them to forget, and to that person I would tell them that we are going for a walk or that they should help me with whatever, because As long as the Mind is busy and the body is busy with other activities, it will not have time to go to the casino , and that is Already a gain , therefore when we decide to do things like this well, there is no other way.

That would be my method to keep Someone away from addiction , but you have to be very Discreet and not talk too much about caffeine or those Topics because they make them have anxiety and anxiety is a very Negative Effect of an Addiction, for that Reason  is that things have to be Managed in that Sense.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Accardo on March 02, 2024, 10:43:28 PM

i also think that forcing someone not to gamble is the same as making them even angrier and will actually fight us. the approach taken should be with understanding and empathy, where we should be able to advise them face to face. if they still resist in the process, give him more advice and don't allow him to gamble more than he can afford. because stones that are dripped with water will also change shape, like people who are addicted, if we continue to give advice and empathize with them, maybe it will help them to soften and reduce the intensity of their gambling.
It should come as no surprise that forcing someone to stop gambling against their will can backfire, resulting in increased frustration and resentment. Taking the time to speak with them face to face and offer advise and support is far more likely to have a positive impact. And an analogy of the stone being shaped by water over time is extremely powerful; it implies that change is possible, but it requires patience and persistence.

Yes, change is achievable, and the approach you both mentioned is the right option for healing an addicted gambler. As he'd need to discuss his troubles with us like we are friends, forcing him or yelling at him only causes a countervailing reaction on the player which can chase the gambler from our vicinity or presence, not wanting to have a conversation with us, hence making him feel very comfortable around us is the best healing technique on the addict.

In addition, tracing down on his behavior as a child also matters, many therapists, tend to discuss the person's past and figure out ways to get him out of addiction.

We all love our pasts, that's why we are happy whenever we get in touch with a childhood friend. Therapists can tap into this trick, as happiness is the goal, since the gambler has been sad and in pain during his period of addiction. Keeping him happy will drag him closer to us, and he'd never feel any need to avoid us, once that has been achieved, the player will be one step closer to being addiction free.   


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: arimamib on March 02, 2024, 11:03:34 PM
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In addition, tracing down on his behavior as a child also matters, many therapists, tend to discuss the person's past and figure out ways to get him out of addiction.

We all love our pasts, that's why we are happy whenever we get in touch with a childhood friend. Therapists can tap into this trick, as happiness is the goal, since the gambler has been sad and in pain during his period of addiction. Keeping him happy will drag him closer to us, and he'd never feel any need to avoid us, once that has been achieved, the player will be one step closer to being addiction free.   
Indeed, many therapists recognize the significance of understanding an individual's past in order to address underlying issues contributing to addiction. Exploring childhood experiences can help therapists identify potential triggers, traumas, or unresolved emotions that may be driving addictive behaviors. Tapping into positive memories from childhood can be a powerful therapeutic tool for fostering happiness and emotional well-being.

Reconnecting with joyful experiences from the past can provide a sense of comfort, nostalgia, and connection, helping individuals navigate the challenges of addiction recovery with greater resilience and optimism. By creating a safe and non-judgmental space for exploration and healing, we can encourage individuals to open up about their experiences and work collaboratively towards recovery.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Accardo on March 03, 2024, 12:19:22 AM
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In addition, tracing down on his behavior as a child also matters, many therapists, tend to discuss the person's past and figure out ways to get him out of addiction.

We all love our pasts, that's why we are happy whenever we get in touch with a childhood friend. Therapists can tap into this trick, as happiness is the goal, since the gambler has been sad and in pain during his period of addiction. Keeping him happy will drag him closer to us, and he'd never feel any need to avoid us, once that has been achieved, the player will be one step closer to being addiction free.  
Indeed, many therapists recognize the significance of understanding an individual's past in order to address underlying issues contributing to addiction. Exploring childhood experiences can help therapists identify potential triggers, traumas, or unresolved emotions that may be driving addictive behaviors. Tapping into positive memories from childhood can be a powerful therapeutic tool for fostering happiness and emotional well-being.

Reconnecting with joyful experiences from the past can provide a sense of comfort, nostalgia, and connection, helping individuals navigate the challenges of addiction recovery with greater resilience and optimism. By creating a safe and non-judgmental space for exploration and healing, we can encourage individuals to open up about their experiences and work collaboratively towards recovery.

Addiction affects the brain and removes a lot of happy moments from the person's memory, if he's remembered of those past, he'd have lots of things to think about when alone. In a condition where the gambler has no funds to afford a therapist, the best option is inviting a relative over, or convincing the gambler to visit one. Those people help us a lot when in problem gambling. Their time and conversations put the brain quite busy enough to forget about whatever affects us in our daily life. An addict's worse moment is his lonely times. Keeping the person's brain active on other events puts the person in a position where he sees other aspects of life, other than gambling.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: junder on March 03, 2024, 10:00:04 AM
Well the idea is to know how to get into a person like that because it's not that easy either, this thing about being addicted is sometimes Difficult because they are locked in their World and if you come and tell them: "Don't play anymore because it's going to hurt you" They are capable of getting very angry, I try to see the behavior and tell them how they are doing, that if there is a way to reduce the game to do thing, I invite her to play soccer, and I invite her to do a sport that I know is going to be tiring, for example cycling, cycling demands a lot and if there is no bicycle, then it is easier, I tell her that we go run, to jog, or walk very far so that you get tired , and with that you see landscapes or something like that, so that you breathe fresh air and keep your mind with another type of vision, and not the one you always have of doing things like this to get tired , because if the person gets tired it is much easier for them to react by stopping little by little from playing.

If the person Starts playing less frequently, they can make things turn out much better because it is a way for them to forget, and to that person I would tell them that we are going for a walk or that they should help me with whatever, because As long as the Mind is busy and the body is busy with other activities, it will not have time to go to the casino , and that is Already a gain , therefore when we decide to do things like this well, there is no other way.

That would be my method to keep Someone away from addiction , but you have to be very Discreet and not talk too much about caffeine or those Topics because they make them have anxiety and anxiety is a very Negative Effect of an Addiction, for that Reason  is that things have to be Managed in that Sense.

Someone who is addicted to gambling might get angry if there are people who want to prevent what they want to do (gambling). because in my opinion someone who is addicted to gambling will experience a change in character, where they may become more stubborn and reluctant to give in. So it's natural that when someone stands in his way, he gets angry because he has tried to block what the main perpetrator wants to do. but even so, preventing those who want to gamble or blocking the desires of people who are addicted to gambling is good, because of course we must be able to make them aware that gambling should not be done excessively, because by doing it excessively it will only make them lose more money. , not by making money. reducing gambling activities is of course good, the same as what you said, if the main perpetrators are tired then they will probably stop and rest, but what happens with gambling in my opinion will be different, because after they rest they will probably come back. in gambling with the same hope of chasing victory.

To stop gambling altogether will not be easy, because to be able to leave gambling you must be able to resist the temptation of wanting to gamble. while the temptation of gambling is very strong, especially if you are addicted to gambling then it is very likely that you will not be able to resist the temptation to gamble. Here, I think that to be able to stop gambling, of course the main perpetrator must first be able to realize that the gambling he is doing is an act that is detrimental to himself. There are some people who say they need help from other people, yes that is true, but when other people help make the main perpetrator aware of it then there is a possibility that the person who is addicted to gambling will be angry, unless the main perpetrator is already aware of the gambling he has been doing for that long. harm yourself. If they become aware of it themselves then I think they will reduce their gambling activities by themselves.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on March 03, 2024, 10:11:31 AM
Sometimes it depends on their behavior because if you see them at their worst, then you need to act quickly without making any introduction anymore since they are not gonna listen to you anymore and this sometimes results in aggression you need to be ready for that. But if you see them slightly addicted and you want them to change, then nicely talk to them to avoid any misunderstanding because if you provoke them more, it will lead to their rebellion, and won't gonna listen to anybody anymore. that's why we have lots of people who ran away from home because of traumatic experiences and also some of them are also at fault since they don't listen to their parents and sibling's advice.

       -   They say the truth hurts, but it helps to make us feel better. It is also not bad to remind the person we are seeing that he will be harmed in the future if he continues what he is doing that is no longer balanced in gambling.

As long as the way of talking is good, I think that what you do with the person you have expressed concern for will also end in a good conversation, right? Now if He/She avoid you let it be until there is a good opportunity again to talk with him or her about this matter.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: hedgeh0g on March 03, 2024, 10:22:26 AM
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In addition, tracing down on his behavior as a child also matters, many therapists, tend to discuss the person's past and figure out ways to get him out of addiction.

We all love our pasts, that's why we are happy whenever we get in touch with a childhood friend. Therapists can tap into this trick, as happiness is the goal, since the gambler has been sad and in pain during his period of addiction. Keeping him happy will drag him closer to us, and he'd never feel any need to avoid us, once that has been achieved, the player will be one step closer to being addiction free.  
Indeed, many therapists recognize the significance of understanding an individual's past in order to address underlying issues contributing to addiction. Exploring childhood experiences can help therapists identify potential triggers, traumas, or unresolved emotions that may be driving addictive behaviors. Tapping into positive memories from childhood can be a powerful therapeutic tool for fostering happiness and emotional well-being.

Reconnecting with joyful experiences from the past can provide a sense of comfort, nostalgia, and connection, helping individuals navigate the challenges of addiction recovery with greater resilience and optimism. By creating a safe and non-judgmental space for exploration and healing, we can encourage individuals to open up about their experiences and work collaboratively towards recovery.

Addiction affects the brain and removes a lot of happy moments from the person's memory, if he's remembered of those past, he'd have lots of things to think about when alone. In a condition where the gambler has no funds to afford a therapist, the best option is inviting a relative over, or convincing the gambler to visit one. Those people help us a lot when in problem gambling. Their time and conversations put the brain quite busy enough to forget about whatever affects us in our daily life. An addict's worse moment is his lonely times. Keeping the person's brain active on other events puts the person in a position where he sees other aspects of life, other than gambling.
I think that there are no clear rules that will help an addicted gambler. If you constantly shout at the player, he will take away from you his gambling world in which you will not disturb him and there he will satisfy his stress hunger. On the other hand, if we behave calmly and are not critical of the addict’s game, then he will play without hindrance. I think that everyone needs to choose an individual plan to reduce the desire to play in such players. In fact, this is very difficult, because you need to know the characteristics of his character, which can only be fully studied for more than one year and then you will not learn everything you need. And even if you choose one of these options and everything goes well and the player stops playing, at one point in a year or several years he may return to this due to any stress in life. This could be a quarrel at work, breaking up with your girlfriend, or the loss of a loved one.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: traderethereum on March 03, 2024, 11:04:45 AM
Sometimes it depends on their behavior because if you see them at their worst, then you need to act quickly without making any introduction anymore since they are not gonna listen to you anymore and this sometimes results in aggression you need to be ready for that. But if you see them slightly addicted and you want them to change, then nicely talk to them to avoid any misunderstanding because if you provoke them more, it will lead to their rebellion, and won't gonna listen to anybody anymore. that's why we have lots of people who ran away from home because of traumatic experiences and also some of them are also at fault since they don't listen to their parents and sibling's advice.
       -   They say the truth hurts, but it helps to make us feel better. It is also not bad to remind the person we are seeing that he will be harmed in the future if he continues what he is doing that is no longer balanced in gambling.

As long as the way of talking is good, I think that what you do with the person you have expressed concern for will also end in a good conversation, right? Now if He/She avoid you let it be until there is a good opportunity again to talk with him or her about this matter.
By telling them the truth and trying to make them realize their mistakes, we can start to help them slowly get rid of their gambling addiction. We cannot tell them to immediately stop gambling because that would be the same as forcing them and would only cause a commotion between us.
It's better if we try to wake him up slowly and help him by finding a solution and trying to follow it. They will feel that they are trying to cure their gambling addiction with the help of others and will not feel alone.
We must be able to show concern for him so that he understands that we really want to help him get out of his gambling addiction. We don't want them to sink deeper into gambling without being able to get out, especially if they are a member of our family.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: EluguHcman on March 03, 2024, 11:05:05 AM
If it is about spending your most free times with them as a monitor ship or guiding the addicted gambler not to gamble again, then that is not enough neither is it the way because there would surely be those little times you would excuse them for a personal activity or Indulgences. And it is not even about holding on hostage that would be the solution.

Psychologically, the state of their gambling addictions worsens when you places enforcement with a hard treats at them, they feels wild and captive when you become harh at them and are ignorant to whatever their gambling addictions maybe have caused them.

They are best fitted with some who would understand them such as interacting with them on why they are gambling in the first place and discuss with them about if they ever fell some lost of personalities in their livelihood within the society and also how it has affected their financial portfolios.
Be calm and talk to them like you understood why they are doing that way and the same time, you know what the consequences are.
Make them feel remorse over their addictions and not make shouting at them like they are unfit to make right decisions even though if yes really they are


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: |MINER| on March 03, 2024, 11:13:28 AM
I don't think that this kind of things can't be done by forcefully.  In these cases, we have to explain to the addicted person what problems have come in his life due to gambling addiction and what problems may come in the future. And for this they should make an appointment with a good psychologist if needed.  Moreover, family members should spend a lot of time with him.  By doing these things, if a highly addicted gambler can be turned away from their addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Fredomago on March 03, 2024, 11:17:32 AM
Sometimes it depends on their behavior because if you see them at their worst, then you need to act quickly without making any introduction anymore since they are not gonna listen to you anymore and this sometimes results in aggression you need to be ready for that. But if you see them slightly addicted and you want them to change, then nicely talk to them to avoid any misunderstanding because if you provoke them more, it will lead to their rebellion, and won't gonna listen to anybody anymore. that's why we have lots of people who ran away from home because of traumatic experiences and also some of them are also at fault since they don't listen to their parents and sibling's advice.
       -   They say the truth hurts, but it helps to make us feel better. It is also not bad to remind the person we are seeing that he will be harmed in the future if he continues what he is doing that is no longer balanced in gambling.

As long as the way of talking is good, I think that what you do with the person you have expressed concern for will also end in a good conversation, right? Now if He/She avoid you let it be until there is a good opportunity again to talk with him or her about this matter.
By telling them the truth and trying to make them realize their mistakes, we can start to help them slowly get rid of their gambling addiction. We cannot tell them to immediately stop gambling because that would be the same as forcing them and would only cause a commotion between us.
It's better if we try to wake him up slowly and help him by finding a solution and trying to follow it. They will feel that they are trying to cure their gambling addiction with the help of others and will not feel alone.
We must be able to show concern for him so that he understands that we really want to help him get out of his gambling addiction. We don't want them to sink deeper into gambling without being able to get out, especially if they are a member of our family.

I see your point and that's valid if we are too close with the person and we also understand how they will react with the way we will talk to them, though it will be a different take when we deal with someone who's already deeply addicted to gambling, there's no way that they will take time to listen, as everything that inside their minds is all about gambling and how they will going to please their desire to keep betting, unless you really have that bond which might break that engagement and they will spare time to sit and talk about their gambling participation.

More on how powerful your words and how you may inspire them with your statement, but yes, it's good to say that bringing good conversation and placing some engaging topics about their gambling may gain their interest and might help them to realize how far are they in terms of gambling addiction and what are the things that they already abuse.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: stomachgrowls on March 03, 2024, 11:24:59 AM
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In addition, tracing down on his behavior as a child also matters, many therapists, tend to discuss the person's past and figure out ways to get him out of addiction.

We all love our pasts, that's why we are happy whenever we get in touch with a childhood friend. Therapists can tap into this trick, as happiness is the goal, since the gambler has been sad and in pain during his period of addiction. Keeping him happy will drag him closer to us, and he'd never feel any need to avoid us, once that has been achieved, the player will be one step closer to being addiction free.  
Indeed, many therapists recognize the significance of understanding an individual's past in order to address underlying issues contributing to addiction. Exploring childhood experiences can help therapists identify potential triggers, traumas, or unresolved emotions that may be driving addictive behaviors. Tapping into positive memories from childhood can be a powerful therapeutic tool for fostering happiness and emotional well-being.

Reconnecting with joyful experiences from the past can provide a sense of comfort, nostalgia, and connection, helping individuals navigate the challenges of addiction recovery with greater resilience and optimism. By creating a safe and non-judgmental space for exploration and healing, we can encourage individuals to open up about their experiences and work collaboratively towards recovery.

Addiction affects the brain and removes a lot of happy moments from the person's memory, if he's remembered of those past, he'd have lots of things to think about when alone. In a condition where the gambler has no funds to afford a therapist, the best option is inviting a relative over, or convincing the gambler to visit one. Those people help us a lot when in problem gambling. Their time and conversations put the brain quite busy enough to forget about whatever affects us in our daily life. An addict's worse moment is his lonely times. Keeping the person's brain active on other events puts the person in a position where he sees other aspects of life, other than gambling.
I think that there are no clear rules that will help an addicted gambler. If you constantly shout at the player, he will take away from you his gambling world in which you will not disturb him and there he will satisfy his stress hunger. On the other hand, if we behave calmly and are not critical of the addict’s game, then he will play without hindrance. I think that everyone needs to choose an individual plan to reduce the desire to play in such players. In fact, this is very difficult, because you need to know the characteristics of his character, which can only be fully studied for more than one year and then you will not learn everything you need. And even if you choose one of these options and everything goes well and the player stops playing, at one point in a year or several years he may return to this due to any stress in life. This could be a quarrel at work, breaking up with your girlfriend, or the loss of a loved one.
On the time that someone do really get that offended then for sure he/she would definitely be that going or trying out to keep some distance specially if it turns out that he do felt that he/she's being pressured or something. We cant really be able to stop things accordingly because if we do speak about gambling addiction then this one really pertains on someones self decisions in regarding
into the conditions that you are into. It is really just that gambling addicts wont really be able to able to realize those mistakes on the time that they would really be on such condition,
which we know that other people could really be able to see upon.

This is why if one of your family members or close to you that would be getting addicted then you would really be having that hard time on trying out to realize on what you are currently doing.
Im aint saying that it would be that able to solved out such problem but of course its not something that you could really be able to easily quit if you
dont have that strong self discipline and control.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: danherbias07 on March 03, 2024, 11:46:45 AM
Sometimes it depends on their behavior because if you see them at their worst, then you need to act quickly without making any introduction anymore since they are not gonna listen to you anymore and this sometimes results in aggression you need to be ready for that. But if you see them slightly addicted and you want them to change, then nicely talk to them to avoid any misunderstanding because if you provoke them more, it will lead to their rebellion, and won't gonna listen to anybody anymore. that's why we have lots of people who ran away from home because of traumatic experiences and also some of them are also at fault since they don't listen to their parents and sibling's advice.
It also depends on the relationship between the gambling addict and you. If you are close friends then it will be easy to tell him that he might be crossing the line on his/her gambling habit.
If you are a parent, either a father or a mother, this is where it gets chaotic. Most of the young ones today see discipline as an act of abuse. This is why I am trying my best to let my kids know that I love them whenever they hear discipline from me. It's best if they will understand that when they are younger so that they will understand it while they are growing up. It's not abuse but mostly love, because as a parent we don't want our kids to walk the wrong path.

Back to the topic. It's better if we talk nicely when we are parents. You are right about that. Maybe that way we can understand what they are going through and maybe that could patch things up and he/she will go back to his normal ways of life, avoiding gambling. As a friend though, it will be different. It's best to tell them the hard truth or tell the parents about what is happening so they will be the ones looking for a solution.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: oktana on March 03, 2024, 11:48:07 AM
In as much as option 2 wouldn’t work, I think you could improve option 1 to work better. I’m not sure what you mean by not leaving their side for too long but I think that you should talk to the person and know their reason for gambling. You can’t solve a problem without knowing what the problem is. If the person says it’s because they don’t have money, then finding them a job will help them stop gambling because then they have Enough to not have a need to gamble.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Blitzboy on March 03, 2024, 12:23:30 PM
Sometimes it depends on their behavior because if you see them at their worst, then you need to act quickly without making any introduction anymore since they are not gonna listen to you anymore and this sometimes results in aggression you need to be ready for that. But if you see them slightly addicted and you want them to change, then nicely talk to them to avoid any misunderstanding because if you provoke them more, it will lead to their rebellion, and won't gonna listen to anybody anymore. that's why we have lots of people who ran away from home because of traumatic experiences and also some of them are also at fault since they don't listen to their parents and sibling's advice.
It also depends on the relationship between the gambling addict and you. If you are close friends then it will be easy to tell him that he might be crossing the line on his/her gambling habit.
If you are a parent, either a father or a mother, this is where it gets chaotic. Most of the young ones today see discipline as an act of abuse. This is why I am trying my best to let my kids know that I love them whenever they hear discipline from me. It's best if they will understand that when they are younger so that they will understand it while they are growing up. It's not abuse but mostly love, because as a parent we don't want our kids to walk the wrong path.

Back to the topic. It's better if we talk nicely when we are parents. You are right about that. Maybe that way we can understand what they are going through and maybe that could patch things up and he/she will go back to his normal ways of life, avoiding gambling. As a friend though, it will be different. It's best to tell them the hard truth or tell the parents about what is happening so they will be the ones looking for a solution.
A mix of polite confrontation and unfailing support is my friend recommendation. The key is communicating the painful facts with empathy that fosters introspection rather than resistance. This method creates a secure setting for honest addiction discussions, I've found.

I agree on parenting. Love-based discipline is tricky. Consistent love and discipline teach that advice is protective, not punitive. The key is to establish ideals and boundaries early on and make punishment seem like caring, not coercion.

Differentiating these roles is crucial. Parental speech is authoritative and concerned. Its important to approach these conversations with conscious kindness that encourages openness rather than defiance. Goal? To show mutually respectful ways out of addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: GxSTxV on March 03, 2024, 01:25:44 PM
Addiction is a serious difficult problem that happens when someone loses complete control on a habit they practice practically all the time, some people have it so bad leading them to do crazy things.

Gambling is one of those habits that people tend to fall into its addiction due to their irresponsibility and impulsive actions. When someone gets addicted to Gambling you can say that he will no longer have a stable healthy life,  not to mention going eventually broke because of the consecutive amounts of money that are spent daily on bets, losing so much money and not being able to stop what you are doing could push you go insane, some people even loan loads of money just to satisfy their gambling addiction needs and they ofcourse end up in big debts they can't pay back.

So imagine someone from your family or loved ones going through what I mentioned above, seeing someone you care about struggle due to gambling addiction, I don't thing treating them in a harsh way could help, it will only make it worse on them it's like adding more pressure and struggle on them. It is preferable to have calm conversations with them trying to understand them and help them fight this addiction, you should always be beside them to make sure they're away of anything related to Gambling. I think if you try the harsh way it won't help because you're gonna push this person away creating a distance between you two that will push him to even hide things from you just to avoid that harsh reaction.

That's why it is important to build a strong healthy relationship between family members for them to feel comfortable sharing their lives and opening up about their problems, violence and hard ways were never a solution.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Accardo on March 03, 2024, 01:50:47 PM
Addiction affects the brain and removes a lot of happy moments from the person's memory, if he's remembered of those past, he'd have lots of things to think about when alone. In a condition where the gambler has no funds to afford a therapist, the best option is inviting a relative over, or convincing the gambler to visit one. Those people help us a lot when in problem gambling. Their time and conversations put the brain quite busy enough to forget about whatever affects us in our daily life. An addict's worse moment is his lonely times. Keeping the person's brain active on other events puts the person in a position where he sees other aspects of life, other than gambling.
I think that there are no clear rules that will help an addicted gambler. If you constantly shout at the player, he will take away from you his gambling world in which you will not disturb him and there he will satisfy his stress hunger. On the other hand, if we behave calmly and are not critical of the addict’s game, then he will play without hindrance. I think that everyone needs to choose an individual plan to reduce the desire to play in such players. In fact, this is very difficult, because you need to know the characteristics of his character, which can only be fully studied for more than one year and then you will not learn everything you need. And even if you choose one of these options and everything goes well and the player stops playing, at one point in a year or several years he may return to this due to any stress in life. This could be a quarrel at work, breaking up with your girlfriend, or the loss of a loved one.
On the time that someone do really get that offended then for sure he/she would definitely be that going or trying out to keep some distance specially if it turns out that he do felt that he/she's being pressured or something. We cant really be able to stop things accordingly because if we do speak about gambling addiction then this one really pertains on someones self decisions in regarding
into the conditions that you are into. It is really just that gambling addicts wont really be able to able to realize those mistakes on the time that they would really be on such condition,
which we know that other people could really be able to see upon.

This is why if one of your family members or close to you that would be getting addicted then you would really be having that hard time on trying out to realize on what you are currently doing.
Im aint saying that it would be that able to solved out such problem but of course its not something that you could really be able to easily quit if you
dont have that strong self discipline and control.

Healing an addict is more like a teamwork, between the addict and his friend or therapist. It's not a simple task as you mentioned, but if a step is taken the person can be better compared to when nothing is done. Friends or relatives may feel nothing can be done about the problem, thereby increasing the problem of the addict. The process takes lots of time for the addict to be healed, main reason most people withdraw from helping out the person, and he needs to comply by providing information regarding his actions and how it affects him.

Whether he's doing illicit things to generate money for his gambling habit or wagering all his earned money in gambling. Once, he's able to provide the right information the therapist will then be able to decide where to begin with recuperating the person's brain. Healing an addict, can't be achieved if he's not willing to share his pains with his relatives or therapists. Trying to help him without any background check on him is a waste of time.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Agbe on March 03, 2024, 02:06:39 PM
 It is not easy to convert or influence that person back to the normal human life again. Counseling a gambling addict is not something one can do once and it will be a continues counseling everyday. There are two approach parents normally used on those guys. Either in arsh way or in polite way. But the arsh work more than the polite way. Because the parents used polite approach in most cases they would be thinking that the parents are begging them so they would be very pride of it. And even the polite way there two approaches. Either military drilling or personal drilling. And children are afraid of military drilling so it is easier for them to stop gambling. But some gamblers listen to their parents so once they told them to stop they stopped it at once.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: uneng on March 03, 2024, 02:18:07 PM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Each person is a biopsychosocial individual, with personal subjective characteristics which can't be compared to each other as it was a cake recipe. The best working method for one person might not be the best method for another person, so you have to analyze each case particularly and closely. Nowadays everyone on the internet have the solutions for every problems humanity faces, judging from the comfort of their houses, however on practice things happen differently.

Only the family or the therapist who is close to the addict individual in a daily basis will be able to draw an accurate scenario of what is happening and what approaches could be more efficient. Moreover, it's not just a matter of best working method, that is, to be harsher or softer. The main key point is the addict individual wishing to change his life for the better and to finally overcome the addiction. If this person doesn't want treatment and doesn't see the importance of it, you can be soft, harsh or warm that it won't make any differences at all...


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: traderethereum on March 04, 2024, 11:07:51 AM
I see your point and that's valid if we are too close with the person and we also understand how they will react with the way we will talk to them, though it will be a different take when we deal with someone who's already deeply addicted to gambling, there's no way that they will take time to listen, as everything that inside their minds is all about gambling and how they will going to please their desire to keep betting, unless you really have that bond which might break that engagement and they will spare time to sit and talk about their gambling participation.

More on how powerful your words and how you may inspire them with your statement, but yes, it's good to say that bringing good conversation and placing some engaging topics about their gambling may gain their interest and might help them to realize how far are they in terms of gambling addiction and what are the things that they already abuse.
Those who have experienced a serious gambling addiction will not want to listen to advice from other people even though it is for their own good. They will continue their gambling activities and not think they are addicted to gambling.
However, we still have to try and must not give up, especially if the person who is addicted to gambling is one of our family members. We have to help them and get them out of their gambling addiction. If not, we will have bigger problems because people who are addicted to gambling might get other, bigger problems.
We must try to have a good conversation with those who are addicted to gambling so that they can accept the reality of what is happening to them. By inviting them to discuss this, we hope to open themselves and their eyes to see this reality so that they can begin to be aware of their gambling addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: slapper on March 04, 2024, 12:06:06 PM
Addiction is a serious difficult problem that happens when someone loses complete control on a habit they practice practically all the time, some people have it so bad leading them to do crazy things.

Gambling is one of those habits that people tend to fall into its addiction due to their irresponsibility and impulsive actions. When someone gets addicted to Gambling you can say that he will no longer have a stable healthy life,  not to mention going eventually broke because of the consecutive amounts of money that are spent daily on bets, losing so much money and not being able to stop what you are doing could push you go insane, some people even loan loads of money just to satisfy their gambling addiction needs and they ofcourse end up in big debts they can't pay back.

So imagine someone from your family or loved ones going through what I mentioned above, seeing someone you care about struggle due to gambling addiction, I don't thing treating them in a harsh way could help, it will only make it worse on them it's like adding more pressure and struggle on them. It is preferable to have calm conversations with them trying to understand them and help them fight this addiction, you should always be beside them to make sure they're away of anything related to Gambling. I think if you try the harsh way it won't help because you're gonna push this person away creating a distance between you two that will push him to even hide things from you just to avoid that harsh reaction.

That's why it is important to build a strong healthy relationship between family members for them to feel comfortable sharing their lives and opening up about their problems, violence and hard ways were never a solution.
Complicated brain chemistry, emotional anguish, and poor decision-making make gambling addiction more than merely losing control. Vilifying or abandoning an addict worsens their condition. Support requires proactiveness, not simply presence. Understanding addiction triggers and psychology is key. The goal is to create an environment that supports healthy choices and addresses the root causes, not just "avoid gambling"

We should discuss healthy gambling. True or not, it exists. Setting limits, recognizing odds, and never letting it devour more than spare change is key. Responsibility, education, and self-control matter


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Blitzboy on March 04, 2024, 02:05:04 PM
I see your point and that's valid if we are too close with the person and we also understand how they will react with the way we will talk to them, though it will be a different take when we deal with someone who's already deeply addicted to gambling, there's no way that they will take time to listen, as everything that inside their minds is all about gambling and how they will going to please their desire to keep betting, unless you really have that bond which might break that engagement and they will spare time to sit and talk about their gambling participation.

More on how powerful your words and how you may inspire them with your statement, but yes, it's good to say that bringing good conversation and placing some engaging topics about their gambling may gain their interest and might help them to realize how far are they in terms of gambling addiction and what are the things that they already abuse.
Those who have experienced a serious gambling addiction will not want to listen to advice from other people even though it is for their own good. They will continue their gambling activities and not think they are addicted to gambling.
However, we still have to try and must not give up, especially if the person who is addicted to gambling is one of our family members. We have to help them and get them out of their gambling addiction. If not, we will have bigger problems because people who are addicted to gambling might get other, bigger problems.
We must try to have a good conversation with those who are addicted to gambling so that they can accept the reality of what is happening to them. By inviting them to discuss this, we hope to open themselves and their eyes to see this reality so that they can begin to be aware of their gambling addiction.
I know your struggle is real. Family gambling addiction treatment needs patience, perseverance, and empathy. I've witnessed it. The secret? Communication, but its easier said than done. Yes, they may first ignore you. They may not acknowledge an issue. Addiction is like that. Be gentle but firm. Discuss their feelings and experiences, not simply gambling. Human connection comes first. Remember, it's process. Small, sustained efforts can lead to breakthroughs.

Also consider professional aid. Gambling addiction therapists and support groups exist. They provide help and strategies you may not be able to deliver. Its improving your support, not giving up.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: traderethereum on March 05, 2024, 06:35:40 AM
I know your struggle is real. Family gambling addiction treatment needs patience, perseverance, and empathy. I've witnessed it. The secret? Communication, but its easier said than done. Yes, they may first ignore you. They may not acknowledge an issue. Addiction is like that. Be gentle but firm. Discuss their feelings and experiences, not simply gambling. Human connection comes first. Remember, it's process. Small, sustained efforts can lead to breakthroughs.

Also consider professional aid. Gambling addiction therapists and support groups exist. They provide help and strategies you may not be able to deliver. Its improving your support, not giving up.
Yes, you are right to mention communication. But we know it will never be easy to communicate with someone who is addicted to gambling.
They will not easily listen to other people's suggestions or words because they have closed their eyes and ears and think they are right. But we must not ignore them because they are one of our family members who we must look after and help if they are experiencing difficulties.
Gambling addiction is really difficult for everyone, but we have to be sure that we will definitely be given a way to help family members who are experiencing difficulties. If we really have difficulty dealing with gambling addicts, we can ask for help from other people, in this case, professional help, as you said. After all, those who are addicted to gambling are our family members who we must help.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Hewlet on March 05, 2024, 06:48:39 AM

 
What do you think?
most gamblers are not kids you sweet talk into stoping an addictive behaviour whenever they become addicted into gambling or try to become tough towards them as a remedy to curing Thier addictive behaviour. Most addict don't even know that they've become addicted to an act and before it becomes obvious in Thier eyes it must have eaten deep into Thier vains amd in most cases they are the ones that can easily liberate themselves off Thier addictive lifestyle.

It's good to attempt bringing them out of Thier addiction through whatever strategy you have thought of but the reality is that at the end of the day they are always the ones in yy best position to liberating themselves off Thier current situation. Although engaging them in conversation that guides them into reducing Thier rate of gambling could help but if you're trying to be tough on them, they will just like at you as someone who wouldn't understand what they are going through and might probably not open up how tough what they are facing is really disturbing them.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: rodskee on March 05, 2024, 07:36:53 AM
In as much as option 2 wouldn’t work, I think you could improve option 1 to work better.
same as what I am thinking and we can conjoin those 2 for better outcome.
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I’m not sure what you mean by not leaving their side for too long but I think that you should talk to the person and know their reason for gambling.
Maybe he means to never stay with them longer because they will find comfort from us.
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You can’t solve a problem without knowing what the problem is.
The problem is addiction and that is the only reason why we are talking here.
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If the person says it’s because they don’t have money, then finding them a job will help them stop gambling because then they have Enough to not have a need to gamble.
the problem with addict people is that they don't want to look for regular job instead easy money in gambling.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: joniboini on March 05, 2024, 08:21:25 AM
but I think that you should talk to the person and know their reason for gambling. You can’t solve a problem without knowing what the problem is. If the person says it’s because they don’t have money, then finding them a job will help them stop gambling because then they have Enough to not have a need to gamble.
I believe some people fall into addiction because they don't have money, or want to make easy money quickly as mentioned above. If he's already addicted, it would be difficult to solve it simply by giving them money or jobs. I'm pretty sure you've heard a story where a successful businessman falls into bankruptcy because he keeps gambling, or somebody falls into gambling debt even though he has a decent job because he can't stop gambling, etc. Even if he is not yet an addict, you'd need to change the environment to be as restrictive as possible to prevent him builds another habit of doing his gambling activity every day. Basically, whether the strategy will be effective will depend on each person.

the problem with addict people is that they don't want to look for regular job instead easy money in gambling.
While this is true for some people, not everyone fees into that category. Problem gamblers or people with addiction can be self-aware about it and try to find a solution but fail to work on it for various reasons. There is a reason why any addiction help sometimes refers to the reader as people with the addiction itself. I've also heard many stories on social media from people telling their experiences with various addictions from gambling to porn. It is a good thing if we don't generalize them and call them lazy just because some of them are like that. CMIIW.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: TopTort777 on March 05, 2024, 08:31:17 AM
If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win :D I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: swogerino on March 05, 2024, 08:59:47 AM
If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win :D I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.

To me this is not silly at all although an addicted person will never agree to 6 months without gambling even if the price is huge if he can fulfill this promise.I think a more realistic approach would be starting with 2 weeks or something along these lines which is more doable even for an avid gambler.Even this short amount of time can help achieve some sort of self control to the addicted person,of course is not going to help since the first try but the more tries the more patience gained.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: KiaKia on March 05, 2024, 09:06:18 AM
There are a lot of options you can do but not this. Forcing a person to quit gambling where they are addicted will never make you achieve the goal of stopping them. There should be the right process to conduct to make them stop without forcing them. The right thing to do is to help them by making them realize the important things they need to do or prioritize instead of spending all their time being addicted to gambling. Forcing them will only make them think to spend more time gambling and make them more addicted than their current situation until they are no longer able to help.

i also think that forcing someone not to gamble is the same as making them even angrier and will actually fight us. the approach taken should be with understanding and empathy, where we should be able to advise them face to face. if they still resist in the process, give him more advice and don't allow him to gamble more than he can afford. because stones that are dripped with water will also change shape, like people who are addicted, if we continue to give advice and empathize with them, maybe it will help them to soften and reduce the intensity of their gambling.
It should come as no surprise that forcing someone to stop gambling against their will can backfire, resulting in increased frustration and resentment. Taking the time to speak with them face to face and offer advise and support is far more likely to have a positive impact. And an analogy of the stone being shaped by water over time is extremely powerful; it implies that change is possible, but it requires patience and persistence.
An introverted lifestyle shows a less communicative personality and even if we talk more to them, the story is just our presentation, it does not condense any other thoughts for them when they are just an emotional trash can and only know how to listen to a story and experience advice, they are not connected by such stories, their world is too special and prevents anyone from entering. Helping them can only lead them to experience the outside world more, like they need to find the rope to overcome difficult emotions inside without needing others to give them a clear path.
How is introvert the problem? Because I am, and I take advises very serious, especially about my well being and the decisions that I am about to make, been introvert doesn't mean we are all stone-cold at heart, as if we don't listen to people, that's a big lie about introverts.

Less communications doesn't mean we don't take advice, we are all different, even those who talks a lot still don't follow all advises, we all have the right to choose from the advice we are given and leave the rest.

Also, not all advises are good, you are the one to make your pick out of all the advices you are given, I will like to ask, is all advice a good one? I believe the answer is a no, either extrovert or introvert it's wiser to use your own brain and not just go with all the advice that people give you.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Kristiyana on March 05, 2024, 09:12:24 AM
If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win :D I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.
you're absolutely right,if an addict lives within first I will advice him never to gamble anymore, that if only him can stop this gambling I promise to provide all his need. though when someone is addicted to gambling they find it so difficult to withdraw from it, reason been that  whenever time they remember the money they lost ever since they started gambling till date,I think they can use the money to establish a very big business, considering all this lost they won't have the remise to change either.

To me this is not silly at all although an addicted person will never agree to 6 months without gambling even if the price is huge if he can fulfill this promise.I think a more realistic approach would be starting with 2 weeks or something along these lines which is more doable even for an avid gambler.Even this short amount of time can help achieve some sort of self control to the addicted person,of course is not going to help since the first try but the more tries the more patience gained.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: hyudien on March 05, 2024, 09:49:41 AM
If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win :D I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.

To me this is not silly at all although an addicted person will never agree to 6 months without gambling even if the price is huge if he can fulfill this promise.I think a more realistic approach would be starting with 2 weeks or something along these lines which is more doable even for an avid gambler.Even this short amount of time can help achieve some sort of self control to the addicted person,of course is not going to help since the first try but the more tries the more patience gained.
This seems like a good idea to try and implement if you live with a gambling addict. But I also agree that it's too long and I don't think they would be able to agree to do it, because their urge to gamble every day would be stronger. I would probably start with a month first, I don't think that's a long time, nor is it a short time, although it might be a very long time in their mind. But I'm also sure they'll steal the time when they're not with us, because we can't be with them 24/7, right?
Apart from this, I also have other approaches such as showing them someone who was ruined by gambling. I'm sure they will also be evasive with this approach, including denying that they are an addict. But on the other hand I'm sure it will slowly enter into their thinking, yes they might be a little disturbed by the image of a person ruined by gambling. I try to play with their psychology, although the risk at the beginning is that they might think we are judging them about their gambling activities.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: bitzizzix on March 05, 2024, 10:13:43 AM
It is not easy to cure gambling addiction, especially since he is a member of our family. But the most important thing is don't give up easily and don't walk away, don't be hated. However, we should show the same love and affection as we treat other family members, gather together to joke and laugh together, and invite them to go for a walk or see something positive and inspiring.
And the most important thing is to invite him to positive things, especially getting closer to God. And there is the right time and moment to be invited to talk face to face with heart, seriousness and also a little firmness.
Actually, it is not the addict who needs professional help, but rather us or all family members to find the best way with the help of people we consider reliable and who provide good advice to help us in the healing process.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Peanutswar on March 05, 2024, 12:23:07 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

All possible comfort is the best, even if we say that they decide to play gambling and they are willing to let go of this kind of habit there's nothing wrong with supporting them and seeking other ways to let them change their perspective in life that is not just only circulating in the gambling.  Theres is nothing wrong with gambling but excessive playing is too much. If you can handle them good but if you cannot there's nothing wrong seeking a medical assistance to professionals, so they can give a suggestions, medicine if needed and therapy of course.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: angrybirdy on March 05, 2024, 12:31:11 PM
If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win :D I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.

To me this is not silly at all although an addicted person will never agree to 6 months without gambling even if the price is huge if he can fulfill this promise.I think a more realistic approach would be starting with 2 weeks or something along these lines which is more doable even for an avid gambler.Even this short amount of time can help achieve some sort of self control to the addicted person,of course is not going to help since the first try but the more tries the more patience gained.
This seems like a good idea to try and implement if you live with a gambling addict. But I also agree that it's too long and I don't think they would be able to agree to do it, because their urge to gamble every day would be stronger. I would probably start with a month first, I don't think that's a long time, nor is it a short time, although it might be a very long time in their mind. But I'm also sure they'll steal the time when they're not with us, because we can't be with them 24/7, right?
Apart from this, I also have other approaches such as showing them someone who was ruined by gambling. I'm sure they will also be evasive with this approach, including denying that they are an addict. But on the other hand I'm sure it will slowly enter into their thinking, yes they might be a little disturbed by the image of a person ruined by gambling. I try to play with their psychology, although the risk at the beginning is that they might think we are judging them about their gambling activities.

Nice idea! Showing them a someone who ruined by gambling might give them an intrusive thoughts once they are alone, or maybe it will help them to think and to admit that they are a gambling addict. Usually, An addict person always deny to theirselves that they are having an addiction because they knew in themselves that before they started gambling, they told themselves that they would not be like other people whose lives were ruined by gambling. They are usually indenial but if you ever show them or give them an example, that will really make them think.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: panjul07 on March 05, 2024, 12:32:24 PM
If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win :D I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.
You may try to trick him with such challenge but he can trick you back by pretending to not gambling at all but in fact he is still gambling because you cant monitor him 24/7 even for a day.
How will you know that he is not gambling at all, because it is impossible if you can control his money as it is something personal/privacy.
Addicted gamblers will not care about such challenge unless you offer something really huge (an amount that he never own/won before) if he can do the challenge.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Coin_trader on March 05, 2024, 12:38:42 PM
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You may try to trick him with such challenge but he can trick you back by pretending to not gambling at all but in fact he is still gambling because you cant monitor him 24/7 even for a day.
How will you know that he is not gambling at all, because it is impossible if you can control his money as it is something personal/privacy.
Addicted gamblers will not care about such challenge unless you offer something really huge (an amount that he never own/won before) if he can do the challenge.


Exactly, I have a grandfather(my grandma brother) like this that is addicted to gambling on cards. Back then, gambling is still being done on the houses here in my country. He leaves with us since he doesn’t have family. He keeps using his pension on gambling even if we try to trick him that he will not be welcome to leave us when he keeps gambling.

He promised my grandma that he already stopped gambling and just watching in there to kill time but later on we found out that he keeps gambling when we interview one of his playmate.  :D

There’s no way to stop an addicted gambler as long as they have the source of income to fund their addiction. We become tired on reminding him so we just let him do whatever he wants since he is already old. He died due to heart attack on his way after gambling. Until the end he still playing gambling even though he keeps losing.



Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Slow death on March 05, 2024, 07:07:19 PM
I already had relatives who were addicts and the method we used was to take them to the hospital, of course at the beginning when we told my addicted relative that he needed to go to the hospital because he was sick and it was very serious, he refused to admit that he was sick, That's because in his mind, being sick meant having some physical pain, so we explained to him that he was addicted to alcohol and drugs and that he needed treatment to be cured, but he refused, he wasn't thinking about the future. unfortunately when people are possessed by addiction they become blind, no matter what words you use they will ignore and pretend they are not listening, so we constantly insisted to my addicted relative that he needed to go for treatment but he continued to refuse

Time passed until a moment came when he became very ill in a serious condition, that's when he asked for help and made himself available so that after being physically cured, he went for treatment with doctors specializing in addictions, and he was cured physically and was admitted to the clinic for treatment of addicts and he was cured, it was months in hospital and in a clinic without access to visitors, but after a long time he started to live with people who were not well behaved and this led him to addiction again and we had He had to use the same method to cure him again, but after he was cured he returned to the addiction thanks to bad friendships, and this time he died. Unfortunately, curing addiction is something bad


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Fredomago on March 05, 2024, 08:35:56 PM
If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win :D I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.
You may try to trick him with such challenge but he can trick you back by pretending to not gambling at all but in fact he is still gambling because you cant monitor him 24/7 even for a day.
How will you know that he is not gambling at all, because it is impossible if you can control his money as it is something personal/privacy.
Addicted gamblers will not care about such challenge unless you offer something really huge (an amount that he never own/won before) if he can do the challenge.


Exactly,  an addicted gambler can also trick you while trying tricking them, they have all the lies inside them  as the only thing matters is to gamble,  and the way you are trying attempt helping them will be seen as option that will allow them to continue what they want, still gamble even the condition is not do so, at the end of the time frame in case they managed to win they can just take your money and go back to whatever type of gambling that they involve,  as simple as that since they knew that you are serious in giving them the reward else, they will not agree if they know that you don't have that seriousness inside you 😉


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Zadicar on March 05, 2024, 08:56:37 PM
If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win :D I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.
You may try to trick him with such challenge but he can trick you back by pretending to not gambling at all but in fact he is still gambling because you cant monitor him 24/7 even for a day.
How will you know that he is not gambling at all, because it is impossible if you can control his money as it is something personal/privacy.
Addicted gamblers will not care about such challenge unless you offer something really huge (an amount that he never own/won before) if he can do the challenge.


Exactly,  an addicted gambler can also trick you while trying tricking them, they have all the lies inside them  as the only thing matters is to gamble,  and the way you are trying attempt helping them will be seen as option that will allow them to continue what they want, still gamble even the condition is not do so, at the end of the time frame in case they managed to win they can just take your money and go back to whatever type of gambling that they involve,  as simple as that since they knew that you are serious in giving them the reward else, they will not agree if they know that you don't have that seriousness inside you 😉
And it is really that hard to detect out if ever they would really be tending up to lie something or trying out to deny even if you have noticed it out. This is why on the time that they would really be doing it
then they would really be trying their best on not to be caught or something that could be seeing their odd movement or behavior or whatever it would be.We do only see those things
when its already too late on which the damage has already been done and this is something that should really be stopped. It would be a normal act or approach that you would really be helping
them as much as possible specially if its a family member.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: oktana on March 05, 2024, 09:25:55 PM
In as much as option 2 wouldn’t work, I think you could improve option 1 to work better.
same as what I am thinking and we can conjoin those 2 for better outcome.

If you say conjoin then I don’t think we have the like thoughts on this. I clearly don’t agree with option 2 because you don’t force people out of an addiction. It is never done anywhere that I know of. In health, when it comes to people who smoke, they slowly reduce their consumption till it’s all gone. Asides that, I personally don’t like harsh approaches to such things. People would listen and understand better if you are subtle while explaining the effects they could face in the long run.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Moreno233 on March 05, 2024, 09:54:39 PM
Nice idea! Showing them a someone who ruined by gambling might give them an intrusive thoughts once they are alone, or maybe it will help them to think and to admit that they are a gambling addict. Usually, An addict person always deny to theirselves that they are having an addiction because they knew in themselves that before they started gambling, they told themselves that they would not be like other people whose lives were ruined by gambling. They are usually indenial but if you ever show them or give them an example, that will really make them think.
Nice idea indeed! It is like showing a chain smoker a pack of cigarette where they drew and wrote horrible things about smoking, he will laugh at you and told you that he saw and read those things before opening the packet to take a stick. That is how strong addiction can be. Until an addicted gambler come to the realization that the addiction is a problem that he need to solve, all efforts at stopping him will not produce the desired result. One of the fastest way out of addiction is sense of responsibilities. One way of achieving this is if the gambler is single, advice him or her to get married, this way responsibility can lead to a slow down in gambling. Apart from this, my effort will go more into making the gambler know that there is a problem and when that is established, we can start looking for solutions. 


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Wakate on March 05, 2024, 09:59:47 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
The best is to show them love and care so that they would know that they are not left behind. This is a practical way to deal with something that is addictive to gamble. We don't need to do what we make them to be angry or provoke their spirit and if things get worse, they might decide to move out of the house if the fund is available to they can play more bets and try their luck. If we found out that such methof is myt yielding any positive results, inviting more people to help in this situation would be another approach maybe to be very harsh as such person with strict hands so they can adapt to new chances.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: TopTort777 on March 06, 2024, 07:15:49 AM
If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win :D I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.
You may try to trick him with such challenge but he can trick you back by pretending to not gambling at all but in fact he is still gambling because you cant monitor him 24/7 even for a day.
How will you know that he is not gambling at all, because it is impossible if you can control his money as it is something personal/privacy.
Addicted gamblers will not care about such challenge unless you offer something really huge (an amount that he never own/won before) if he can do the challenge.


You know, pretending no to gamble is already a 1% win towards victory. As you have already done a minimum of your plan - you have decreased the amount of gambling in addicted persons life. That is a first step. This is already a win, when persons gambles daily, but now starts to gamble only 2-3 times a week, and do it secretly. This is already an improvement. And the trick is to lure gambler in this challenge with a unbelievable prize. I cant name something right away, as the solid prize is individual for everyone. And again, its no use to help addicted person unless he wants that help. I would no go first and force gambler for such a challenge. We should come together with him that there is a problem and he needs help, and than run that challenge. He would be interested in getting cured, rather than to trick me.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: mak013 on March 06, 2024, 02:12:56 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
The best is to show them love and care so that they would know that they are not left behind. This is a practical way to deal with something that is addictive to gamble. We don't need to do what we make them to be angry or provoke their spirit and if things get worse, they might decide to move out of the house if the fund is available to they can play more bets and try their luck. If we found out that such methof is myt yielding any positive results, inviting more people to help in this situation would be another approach maybe to be very harsh as such person with strict hands so they can adapt to new chances.
Yeah, it would be better if they steal our money and everything they can to bet. They don`t need love - they must understand that the result they have is only the result of their actions and nobody will help them until they change their habits. Don`t waste time and money trying to help in such a way.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: klidex on March 07, 2024, 05:00:11 AM
If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win :D I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.
You may try to trick him with such challenge but he can trick you back by pretending to not gambling at all but in fact he is still gambling because you cant monitor him 24/7 even for a day.
How will you know that he is not gambling at all, because it is impossible if you can control his money as it is something personal/privacy.
Addicted gamblers will not care about such challenge unless you offer something really huge (an amount that he never own/won before) if he can do the challenge.


You know, pretending no to gamble is already a 1% win towards victory. As you have already done a minimum of your plan - you have decreased the amount of gambling in addicted persons life. That is a first step. This is already a win, when persons gambles daily, but now starts to gamble only 2-3 times a week, and do it secretly. This is already an improvement. And the trick is to lure gambler in this challenge with a unbelievable prize. I cant name something right away, as the solid prize is individual for everyone. And again, its no use to help addicted person unless he wants that help. I would no go first and force gambler for such a challenge. We should come together with him that there is a problem and he needs help, and than run that challenge. He would be interested in getting cured, rather than to trick me.
Yes, maybe this could help reduce his daily activities a little which he usually uses for gambling, but now he has to pretend and use his gambling not as often as usual and slowly he is starting to get used to not gambling and he may not become addicted to gambling. But if a gambler does a challenge only at times like that so that they get a prize then when they have done it and can stop gambling but this is not because of the intention to stop but because they want a prize and a challenge and when the time is up they will return to being a gambling addict so In my opinion, this option is not very effective for stopping the addiction.

It's true that there's no point in helping someone who is addicted to gambling if it's someone else, but if they were related to us, would we just keep quiet without helping them?
I also don't care about other people who are addicted to it because it is their his own business and their money too, but if it concerns family or relatives I will definitely help them because gambling addiction sometimes involves the good name of the family and the impact is very big if the addiction is not treated immediately and the family will be affected it will be a loss someday, therefore it is better to prevent things that might be even worse.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: TopTort777 on March 07, 2024, 07:03:12 AM
If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win :D I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.
You may try to trick him with such challenge but he can trick you back by pretending to not gambling at all but in fact he is still gambling because you cant monitor him 24/7 even for a day.
How will you know that he is not gambling at all, because it is impossible if you can control his money as it is something personal/privacy.
Addicted gamblers will not care about such challenge unless you offer something really huge (an amount that he never own/won before) if he can do the challenge.


You know, pretending no to gamble is already a 1% win towards victory. As you have already done a minimum of your plan - you have decreased the amount of gambling in addicted persons life. That is a first step. This is already a win, when persons gambles daily, but now starts to gamble only 2-3 times a week, and do it secretly. This is already an improvement. And the trick is to lure gambler in this challenge with a unbelievable prize. I cant name something right away, as the solid prize is individual for everyone. And again, its no use to help addicted person unless he wants that help. I would no go first and force gambler for such a challenge. We should come together with him that there is a problem and he needs help, and than run that challenge. He would be interested in getting cured, rather than to trick me.
Yes, maybe this could help reduce his daily activities a little which he usually uses for gambling, but now he has to pretend and use his gambling not as often as usual and slowly he is starting to get used to not gambling and he may not become addicted to gambling. But if a gambler does a challenge only at times like that so that they get a prize then when they have done it and can stop gambling but this is not because of the intention to stop but because they want a prize and a challenge and when the time is up they will return to being a gambling addict so In my opinion, this option is not very effective for stopping the addiction.

You have to start from the little. Gambling addiction is formed during ages. It can be dropped like it nothing. Person can be cured from it after a day of resisting gambling. What I advice are just first and tiny steps to recovery. Maybe this wont even help; I dont know, I am not an expert in antigambling addiction. But with what and I suggest, this would help addicted person to at least try. Because you cant force him to stop gambling, and you cant help him if he dont want to.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 07, 2024, 07:06:58 PM
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Of course, things are like this, an addicted player usually the first thing they do is to know how to be and how to treat others, that they become stubborn, curmudgeonly and what can happen, because only in their environment is games, playing, betting, and if they have probably lost money, they may be in a very bad mood and they don't want anyone to tell them anything, much less to stop doing that activity, that's why getting into an addict It is very delicate, you have to enter with great care and tact because they can be very Irritable, I study the person closely and I will start to tell him if he can accompany me to do a sport or something, but first try to get the person out of the way, If you accept well, if not, then insist in other even gentler ways, because as I said, they are very irritable and can cause discomfort or more anger, because firstly they will be losing money , secondly they are stressed because they cannot recover it and thirdly they are people. Maybe they don't know where to get more loans, believers.

For an addict the trick is to know how to get in, letting the addiction go away on its own does not work all the time, sometimes an addicted person decides to take their own life because they do not see any other way to get out of their problem and That is theMost viable way out for them , addiction blinds them, that is why you have to know how to have so much with them.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: junder on March 08, 2024, 09:01:03 AM
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Of course, things are like this, an addicted player usually the first thing they do is to know how to be and how to treat others, that they become stubborn, curmudgeonly and what can happen, because only in their environment is games, playing, betting, and if they have probably lost money, they may be in a very bad mood and they don't want anyone to tell them anything, much less to stop doing that activity, that's why getting into an addict It is very delicate, you have to enter with great care and tact because they can be very Irritable, I study the person closely and I will start to tell him if he can accompany me to do a sport or something, but first try to get the person out of the way, If you accept well, if not, then insist in other even gentler ways, because as I said, they are very irritable and can cause discomfort or more anger, because firstly they will be losing money , secondly they are stressed because they cannot recover it and thirdly they are people. Maybe they don't know where to get more loans, believers.

For an addict the trick is to know how to get in, letting the addiction go away on its own does not work all the time, sometimes an addicted person decides to take their own life because they do not see any other way to get out of their problem and That is theMost viable way out for them , addiction blinds them, that is why you have to know how to have so much with them.

That's right, it's true that someone who is addicted will probably not care about anything else apart from gambling, because that's what dominates their mind the most, playing, betting and gambling is all they think about. and it is clear that if they are addicted then they will experience a change in attitude and become stubborn, when someone tries to advise them that gambling is wrong, but with those who are already addicted they will ignore it and what is worse is that they will probably argue with the person who advised them. In my opinion, those who are addicted to gambling will easily get angry and emotional, because their desire from gambling is to win, whereas winning is very difficult to get, and with more frequent defeats it can make them stressed which will confuse their own feelings and the stress they cause. they experienced that it would be difficult to recover.

The addiction will disappear if they themselves realize that excessive gambling only harms them. for those who are already under severe stress and cannot withstand the pressure caused by their own actions, it is possible that they could end their life, but that is not the solution, because it will not solve everything. We should be aware that when we dare to act, we should have the courage to take responsibility. Many only dare to act but cannot solve the problems that occur.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 08, 2024, 05:43:16 PM
<snip>

Of course, things are like this, an addicted player usually the first thing they do is to know how to be and how to treat others, that they become stubborn, curmudgeonly and what can happen, because only in their environment is games, playing, betting, and if they have probably lost money, they may be in a very bad mood and they don't want anyone to tell them anything, much less to stop doing that activity, that's why getting into an addict It is very delicate, you have to enter with great care and tact because they can be very Irritable, I study the person closely and I will start to tell him if he can accompany me to do a sport or something, but first try to get the person out of the way, If you accept well, if not, then insist in other even gentler ways, because as I said, they are very irritable and can cause discomfort or more anger, because firstly they will be losing money , secondly they are stressed because they cannot recover it and thirdly they are people. Maybe they don't know where to get more loans, believers.

For an addict the trick is to know how to get in, letting the addiction go away on its own does not work all the time, sometimes an addicted person decides to take their own life because they do not see any other way to get out of their problem and That is theMost viable way out for them , addiction blinds them, that is why you have to know how to have so much with them.

That's right, it's true that someone who is addicted will probably not care about anything else apart from gambling, because that's what dominates their mind the most, playing, betting and gambling is all they think about. and it is clear that if they are addicted then they will experience a change in attitude and become stubborn, when someone tries to advise them that gambling is wrong, but with those who are already addicted they will ignore it and what is worse is that they will probably argue with the person who advised them. In my opinion, those who are addicted to gambling will easily get angry and emotional, because their desire from gambling is to win, whereas winning is very difficult to get, and with more frequent defeats it can make them stressed which will confuse their own feelings and the stress they cause. they experienced that it would be difficult to recover.

The addiction will disappear if they themselves realize that excessive gambling only harms them. for those who are already under severe stress and cannot withstand the pressure caused by their own actions, it is possible that they could end their life, but that is not the solution, because it will not solve everything. We should be aware that when we dare to act, we should have the courage to take responsibility. Many only dare to act but cannot solve the problems that occur.
What happens is that the effects of the eproasnq those who are addicted do not allow them to think very much, they do not see the solutions for them because from the beginning they do not give importance to them, some think that they do not even have a problem, then it is difficult, because when And they enter the acceptance period when they have lost considerable amounts of money, and that is something that we notice and when they realize that they have fallen low, that is when they feel that they need help, and that is where it is essential that the person is aware. that you must make many sacrifices, including playing less time, practicing less and trying to replace that anxiety with a sport or something that keeps your mind occupied.

Every time I can, I recommend that an addicted person do sports, because sports will make the person get tired and have to rest, sleep, that is time to recover, take a break, a rest, the normal thing that the body asks for.

This is one of the things that may be the most common and cheapest to do, but of course this is something that we must have a lot of discipline, even for Uranus we have to have a lot of discipline, for that reason it is because the game, everything it has What to do with casinos is delicate, sometimes we as people have to be aware of what we are going to do.

As for the fact that some people Sometimes realize their Excesses , that does not Always happen, it may be that they realize their mistakes, and that they have fallen very low thanks to the effects of addiction, but there are many who do not want to. get out of there.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: junder on March 09, 2024, 08:21:54 AM
That's right, it's true that someone who is addicted will probably not care about anything else apart from gambling, because that's what dominates their mind the most, playing, betting and gambling is all they think about. and it is clear that if they are addicted then they will experience a change in attitude and become stubborn, when someone tries to advise them that gambling is wrong, but with those who are already addicted they will ignore it and what is worse is that they will probably argue with the person who advised them. In my opinion, those who are addicted to gambling will easily get angry and emotional, because their desire from gambling is to win, whereas winning is very difficult to get, and with more frequent defeats it can make them stressed which will confuse their own feelings and the stress they cause. they experienced that it would be difficult to recover.

The addiction will disappear if they themselves realize that excessive gambling only harms them. for those who are already under severe stress and cannot withstand the pressure caused by their own actions, it is possible that they could end their life, but that is not the solution, because it will not solve everything. We should be aware that when we dare to act, we should have the courage to take responsibility. Many only dare to act but cannot solve the problems that occur.
What happens is that the effects of the eproasnq those who are addicted do not allow them to think very much, they do not see the solutions for them because from the beginning they do not give importance to them, some think that they do not even have a problem, then it is difficult, because when And they enter the acceptance period when they have lost considerable amounts of money, and that is something that we notice and when they realize that they have fallen low, that is when they feel that they need help, and that is where it is essential that the person is aware. that you must make many sacrifices, including playing less time, practicing less and trying to replace that anxiety with a sport or something that keeps your mind occupied.

Every time I can, I recommend that an addicted person do sports, because sports will make the person get tired and have to rest, sleep, that is time to recover, take a break, a rest, the normal thing that the body asks for.

This is one of the things that may be the most common and cheapest to do, but of course this is something that we must have a lot of discipline, even for Uranus we have to have a lot of discipline, for that reason it is because the game, everything it has What to do with casinos is delicate, sometimes we as people have to be aware of what we are going to do.

As for the fact that some people Sometimes realize their Excesses , that does not Always happen, it may be that they realize their mistakes, and that they have fallen very low thanks to the effects of addiction, but there are many who do not want to. get out of there.

with those who are addicted to gambling, maybe they underestimate gambling so much that they experience unwanted situations such as losing a lot of money while gambling. also maybe they don't see the bad side of gambling, because they only think about winning so they don't care about the impact that will happen, it's true what you said, after they are addicted to gambling and experience losing large amounts of money then they need help but it's possible , because someone who has gambled is unlikely to be able to realize it easily, of course they will only gamble continuously even if it only ends in defeat. If they can come to their senses then they will do their best to leave their addiction, whether it's exercising as you said or doing other things that are more beneficial.

Of course, if they really want to leave their gambling addiction, they must be disciplined in carrying out their daily activities, so that they are not easily attracted to gambling again. because currently there is a lot of online gambling going on, of course there are people in their environment who are also addicted to gambling, and when they win, this is the test, they have to be able to restrain themselves so as not to be attracted by other people who win from gambling. If they are interested in gambling again, it is likely that their efforts will fail and they will return to gambling even more aggressively. For those who are addicted, it won't be easy to get out of this detrimental cycle, because they only think about winning so they probably won't be able to get out of it easily.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Accardo on March 09, 2024, 08:44:16 AM
Nice idea! Showing them a someone who ruined by gambling might give them an intrusive thoughts once they are alone, or maybe it will help them to think and to admit that they are a gambling addict. Usually, An addict person always deny to theirselves that they are having an addiction because they knew in themselves that before they started gambling, they told themselves that they would not be like other people whose lives were ruined by gambling. They are usually indenial but if you ever show them or give them an example, that will really make them think.
Nice idea indeed! It is like showing a chain smoker a pack of cigarette where they drew and wrote horrible things about smoking, he will laugh at you and told you that he saw and read those things before opening the packet to take a stick. That is how strong addiction can be. Until an addicted gambler come to the realization that the addiction is a problem that he need to solve, all efforts at stopping him will not produce the desired result. One of the fastest way out of addiction is sense of responsibilities. One way of achieving this is if the gambler is single, advice him or her to get married, this way responsibility can lead to a slow down in gambling. Apart from this, my effort will go more into making the gambler know that there is a problem and when that is established, we can start looking for solutions. 

People adapt to treatment differently and addiction, like gambling, doesn't have an adequate healing method for everyone. No theory, whatsoever, have learned deeply on gambling addiction and figured a method to heal an addicted player, regardless of his compliance to treatment. Here, unlike other sickness, the player has to comply to treatment. If he doesn't want to get healed, then all effort is a waste, he wouldn't. This triples the difficulty of healing a gambling addicted person. Addicts don't control the impulse to choose carefully what they want.

Same mistake they make while gambling, not knowing when to stop, gambling recklessly, etc., also affects their life decisions. He may not accept the responsibility that is on him, and still, endanger the safety of his home. I think before moving forward to your idea, a good one, the player need to be free from addiction. Giving him a family, he doesn't want can move his addiction from bad to worse.  I think everyone should decide about what they want in life. While we sit back and watch them execute their choices. Whenever, they need help, being there for their safety will be acknowledged.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 09, 2024, 05:49:58 PM
That's right, it's true that someone who is addicted will probably not care about anything else apart from gambling, because that's what dominates their mind the most, playing, betting and gambling is all they think about. and it is clear that if they are addicted then they will experience a change in attitude and become stubborn, when someone tries to advise them that gambling is wrong, but with those who are already addicted they will ignore it and what is worse is that they will probably argue with the person who advised them. In my opinion, those who are addicted to gambling will easily get angry and emotional, because their desire from gambling is to win, whereas winning is very difficult to get, and with more frequent defeats it can make them stressed which will confuse their own feelings and the stress they cause. they experienced that it would be difficult to recover.

The addiction will disappear if they themselves realize that excessive gambling only harms them. for those who are already under severe stress and cannot withstand the pressure caused by their own actions, it is possible that they could end their life, but that is not the solution, because it will not solve everything. We should be aware that when we dare to act, we should have the courage to take responsibility. Many only dare to act but cannot solve the problems that occur.
What happens is that the effects of the eproasnq those who are addicted do not allow them to think very much, they do not see the solutions for them because from the beginning they do not give importance to them, some think that they do not even have a problem, then it is difficult, because when And they enter the acceptance period when they have lost considerable amounts of money, and that is something that we notice and when they realize that they have fallen low, that is when they feel that they need help, and that is where it is essential that the person is aware. that you must make many sacrifices, including playing less time, practicing less and trying to replace that anxiety with a sport or something that keeps your mind occupied.

Every time I can, I recommend that an addicted person do sports, because sports will make the person get tired and have to rest, sleep, that is time to recover, take a break, a rest, the normal thing that the body asks for.

This is one of the things that may be the most common and cheapest to do, but of course this is something that we must have a lot of discipline, even for Uranus we have to have a lot of discipline, for that reason it is because the game, everything it has What to do with casinos is delicate, sometimes we as people have to be aware of what we are going to do.

As for the fact that some people Sometimes realize their Excesses , that does not Always happen, it may be that they realize their mistakes, and that they have fallen very low thanks to the effects of addiction, but there are many who do not want to. get out of there.

with those who are addicted to gambling, maybe they underestimate gambling so much that they experience unwanted situations such as losing a lot of money while gambling. also maybe they don't see the bad side of gambling, because they only think about winning so they don't care about the impact that will happen, it's true what you said, after they are addicted to gambling and experience losing large amounts of money then they need help but it's possible , because someone who has gambled is unlikely to be able to realize it easily, of course they will only gamble continuously even if it only ends in defeat. If they can come to their senses then they will do their best to leave their addiction, whether it's exercising as you said or doing other things that are more beneficial.

Of course, if they really want to leave their gambling addiction, they must be disciplined in carrying out their daily activities, so that they are not easily attracted to gambling again. because currently there is a lot of online gambling going on, of course there are people in their environment who are also addicted to gambling, and when they win, this is the test, they have to be able to restrain themselves so as not to be attracted by other people who win from gambling. If they are interested in gambling again, it is likely that their efforts will fail and they will return to gambling even more aggressively. For those who are addicted, it won't be easy to get out of this detrimental cycle, because they only think about winning so they probably won't be able to get out of it easily.

Yes, basically the active player only thinks about winning and winning, sometimes he does not care about what he can lose, he is only interested in playing to win and win back, then that becomes a vicious circle because the player will only focus on playing. and win as it is, therefore sometimes that is not possible, and if it is not possible, other things have to be done, what is recommended is to leave it, but since it will not leave that, what you have to do is take urgent measures One of them is that the person who bets a lot will try to get him to entertain himself in another activity, make him leave the casino a little so that he can dedicate himself to something else, like playing sports, so that he gets tired, so that his body gets tired. , but that is difficult, also the fact that you accept that you have an orbelm that can sometimes be the most difficult, as long as you do not accept it, the person will continue to spend, become decapitated and lose as time passes.

So that's the kind of disorder that an addict can make, but what can be the chances of being cured? The first thing to do is to accept that you have the problem , to be able to act, as long as you do not accept it, you will be lost, the same person has to realize that they are falling into a difficult hole to get out of, at the moment they know From that problem, it is simple, you start taking measures, the best thing is to go to a psychologist, or psychiatrist, depending on what the person has, if they are addicted in an advanced way, then other things can be done to help, but the first thing is professional help.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Litzki1990 on March 09, 2024, 05:55:13 PM
People who are addicted to something usually want some distance from normal life. They try to keep their distance from those of us who live normal lives and prefer to spend time with people who are in their nature. If it's someone I know or a family member of course I will try to help him but if someone I don't know does this then it's hard for me to help him. Whenever I go to help him with these things, he will come and try to follow my ways without giving importance to my issues. If my friendly neighbor lives like this, I will try to do what I need to do to bring him back to a normal life. I will try to bag the free time with him and try to keep him busy in various sports besides taking him for walks so that he will slowly forget his bad deeds from his brain.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: killerfrost on March 09, 2024, 07:06:34 PM
Forget yelling and finger-pointing. Instead, have a chill conversation. Let them know you care and want to help them beat this gambling thing. Try to see things from their perspective. What's pushing them to gamble? Maybe they're stressed, bored, or something else is going on. By understanding them better, you can offer support without the judgment.

Loving someone doesn't mean letting them keep digging a hole. Set some clear ground rules, like not lending them cash or rescuing them from gambling debts. It's tough love, but it shows you care and want them to get back on their feet. You can't fix everything yourself. A therapist can help them unpack the reasons behind the gambling and teach them how to deal with cravings. Find some treatment options and nudge them towards getting professional help. Getting better isn't always a straight line. There might be bumps in the road. Don't freak out! Be there for them, remind them of the progress they've made, and help them get back on track.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: southerngentuk on March 09, 2024, 07:26:01 PM
Breaking the addiction hinges on the gambler themself recognizing the problem.  We can offer guidance, but ultimately, the desire to change has to come from within.  It's like that moment you realize you've been mindlessly scrolling social media for hours – that spark of awareness is crucial.

Lectures and ultimatums rarely work with addiction.  Imagine yelling at someone to stop eating cake when they're in the throes of a sugar rush.  Not effective.  Instead, compassionate support can be a powerful tool.  Listen without judgment, offer resources, and be a source of strength, not shame.

We can't control the addict's choices, but we can be a safety net.  Maybe it's helping them set limits on spending, accompanying them to therapy sessions, or simply being a listening ear.  Every bit of support makes a difference.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Webetcoins on March 10, 2024, 06:39:42 AM
If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win :D I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.
You may try to trick him with such challenge but he can trick you back by pretending to not gambling at all but in fact he is still gambling because you cant monitor him 24/7 even for a day.
How will you know that he is not gambling at all, because it is impossible if you can control his money as it is something personal/privacy.
Addicted gamblers will not care about such challenge unless you offer something really huge (an amount that he never own/won before) if he can do the challenge.
I think even a large stake wouldn't make them self-cure and as you said, they will most probably trick you instead by gambling when there is no one around using accounts that they hide and no one can know whether they did it or not. So I agree that such tricks or challenges would barely work on addicted gamblers. Such a thing might work like a charm on someone who is just getting addicted and isn't completely in it yet.

If one offers a huge sum to an addicted gambler not to gamble for a certain amount of time, they will surely find a way to cheat the challenger unless the person challenging them finds a way to have some surveillance over the gambler at all times so that they don't get to cheat.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: junder on March 10, 2024, 11:23:38 AM
with those who are addicted to gambling, maybe they underestimate gambling so much that they experience unwanted situations such as losing a lot of money while gambling. also maybe they don't see the bad side of gambling, because they only think about winning so they don't care about the impact that will happen, it's true what you said, after they are addicted to gambling and experience losing large amounts of money then they need help but it's possible , because someone who has gambled is unlikely to be able to realize it easily, of course they will only gamble continuously even if it only ends in defeat. If they can come to their senses then they will do their best to leave their addiction, whether it's exercising as you said or doing other things that are more beneficial.

Of course, if they really want to leave their gambling addiction, they must be disciplined in carrying out their daily activities, so that they are not easily attracted to gambling again. because currently there is a lot of online gambling going on, of course there are people in their environment who are also addicted to gambling, and when they win, this is the test, they have to be able to restrain themselves so as not to be attracted by other people who win from gambling. If they are interested in gambling again, it is likely that their efforts will fail and they will return to gambling even more aggressively. For those who are addicted, it won't be easy to get out of this detrimental cycle, because they only think about winning so they probably won't be able to get out of it easily.

Yes, basically the active player only thinks about winning and winning, sometimes he does not care about what he can lose, he is only interested in playing to win and win back, then that becomes a vicious circle because the player will only focus on playing. and win as it is, therefore sometimes that is not possible, and if it is not possible, other things have to be done, what is recommended is to leave it, but since it will not leave that, what you have to do is take urgent measures One of them is that the person who bets a lot will try to get him to entertain himself in another activity, make him leave the casino a little so that he can dedicate himself to something else, like playing sports, so that he gets tired, so that his body gets tired. , but that is difficult, also the fact that you accept that you have an orbelm that can sometimes be the most difficult, as long as you do not accept it, the person will continue to spend, become decapitated and lose as time passes.

So that's the kind of disorder that an addict can make, but what can be the chances of being cured? The first thing to do is to accept that you have the problem , to be able to act, as long as you do not accept it, you will be lost, the same person has to realize that they are falling into a difficult hole to get out of, at the moment they know From that problem, it is simple, you start taking measures, the best thing is to go to a psychologist, or psychiatrist, depending on what the person has, if they are addicted in an advanced way, then other things can be done to help, but the first thing is professional help.

In my opinion, people who are addicted to gambling will of course only think about gambling and winning, they tend not to care about what happens, in the end of winning or losing they will continue to gamble, because thinking about gambling is a must because they are addicted to gambling. What you say is correct, of course what you have to do is leave it, that can reduce the problem, but you also have to look at whether or not the main perpetrators are able to accept suggestions and directions from us, of course we as friends or even family want the best, when When a problem comes and befalls it must be resolved. forcing them to do other things that are more useful and more reasonable might be possible, but returning to the main actor, he must be able to receive direction from us, and in my opinion the key is in awareness, they must have their own awareness first, with I think they can receive direction from other people. because someone who is addicted to gambling will of course not be able to easily accept advice and input as well as direction from other people, even their family.

As I have said, the main perpetrator must first be able to realize on their own that they already have a serious problem, and only then can we take action to encourage and support them so they can recover from their addiction. If indeed they have self-awareness, it is possible that they will also try to recover in their own way, as you said, by consulting a psychologist, that might be one way that can be done so that they can recover. In my opinion, even if you get help from a professional, it's useless if they don't have their own awareness. but what you say makes sense too.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Blitzboy on March 10, 2024, 04:58:44 PM
Forget yelling and finger-pointing. Instead, have a chill conversation. Let them know you care and want to help them beat this gambling thing. Try to see things from their perspective. What's pushing them to gamble? Maybe they're stressed, bored, or something else is going on. By understanding them better, you can offer support without the judgment.

Loving someone doesn't mean letting them keep digging a hole. Set some clear ground rules, like not lending them cash or rescuing them from gambling debts. It's tough love, but it shows you care and want them to get back on their feet. You can't fix everything yourself. A therapist can help them unpack the reasons behind the gambling and teach them how to deal with cravings. Find some treatment options and nudge them towards getting professional help. Getting better isn't always a straight line. There might be bumps in the road. Don't freak out! Be there for them, remind them of the progress they've made, and help them get back on track.
Our approach will be really sensible. Tough love is involved. Showing care by setting boundaries is important, not cutting them off. No gambling debt bailouts or monetary aid. Its firm and tough, but it demonstrates you want to help them win in life, not slots.

Professional help? An absolute must. I know the best individuals, including therapists. They're experts at decoding these complex habits and getting to the root cause. Its not defeatist to suggest therapy - its planning a huge comeback. Remember, slips happen. Dont panic when they do. Show them their progress. Sometimes you take two steps forward and one step back when negotiating a huge deal. But you persevere. Thats wining.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Accardo on March 10, 2024, 05:33:57 PM
People who are addicted to something usually want some distance from normal life. They try to keep their distance from those of us who live normal lives and prefer to spend time with people who are in their nature. If it's someone I know or a family member of course I will try to help him but if someone I don't know does this then it's hard for me to help him. Whenever I go to help him with these things, he will come and try to follow my ways without giving importance to my issues. If my friendly neighbor lives like this, I will try to do what I need to do to bring him back to a normal life. I will try to bag the free time with him and try to keep him busy in various sports besides taking him for walks so that he will slowly forget his bad deeds from his brain.

I have noticed, not in most cases, rarely, that an addict gets better when he encounters a painful event. An addict who slept in his room, and woke up, the next morning, in a sick bed will have a rethink. And accept to visit a therapist or get help. Addiction is a sickness, and requires consistent, adequate treatment. The addict undergoes series of pains, best known to him, but can't share his problems, due to stigma, probably. They are not getting the deserved love a sick person is entitled to get.

However, the society careless about such sicknesses, mental illness, and blame the victim. But forget that it could happen to anybody. Nobody is too good, or too bad. Hence, paying visits and assisting an addicted friend by any means possible does a great change to the player's health. Although, as you said, they conceal the pains and make everything look normal. Only a close fellow will understand the difference in his lifestyle.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: mak013 on March 12, 2024, 12:10:06 PM
People who are addicted to something usually want some distance from normal life. They try to keep their distance from those of us who live normal lives and prefer to spend time with people who are in their nature. If it's someone I know or a family member of course I will try to help him but if someone I don't know does this then it's hard for me to help him. Whenever I go to help him with these things, he will come and try to follow my ways without giving importance to my issues. If my friendly neighbor lives like this, I will try to do what I need to do to bring him back to a normal life. I will try to bag the free time with him and try to keep him busy in various sports besides taking him for walks so that he will slowly forget his bad deeds from his brain.

I have noticed, not in most cases, rarely, that an addict gets better when he encounters a painful event. An addict who slept in his room, and woke up, the next morning, in a sick bed will have a rethink. And accept to visit a therapist or get help. Addiction is a sickness, and requires consistent, adequate treatment. The addict undergoes series of pains, best known to him, but can't share his problems, due to stigma, probably. They are not getting the deserved love a sick person is entitled to get.

However, the society careless about such sicknesses, mental illness, and blame the victim. But forget that it could happen to anybody. Nobody is too good, or too bad. Hence, paying visits and assisting an addicted friend by any means possible does a great change to the player's health. Although, as you said, they conceal the pains and make everything look normal. Only a close fellow will understand the difference in his lifestyle.
They don`t know what the love means. They just will use it for their own purposes. You are right - it is illness, and the treatment usually hurts. Don`t spend resources trying to care about addict - the best way to show your love is to make him work with the problem. He willn`t do anything with his life as long as you cares about him, he don`t need it.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: JMBitcointernational on April 29, 2024, 02:10:47 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Op your first option is quite advisable, talking to them and also try to encourage them. But looking at your second option, i guess it is not nice to shout at them, there is this adage that says the only way to stop a criminal from stealing is by keeping those items that he steals to be in his custody but that can not apply to all the criminals because some of them will also steal those items.

talking about the best way to assist an addictive gambler, i will suggest 'ABSTAINANCE' , when you make the person to abstain from everything that has to do with gambling, keeping him or her away from his or gambling friends, do not allow him to get close to any betting shop or casino house, distance him or her from traditional gamblers, and also regulate his mobile phones and keep his mind busy with something else that is interesting more than gambling.

lastly being gentle and soft will make them learn easier, because when you shout at them or beat them, they will still gamble believing that you can either beat them or shout at them. however, being gentle and soft will make them realize their mistakes because your soft advice will weaken their emotions and they will be reflecting on the words till they change or stop gambling.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: wxa7115 on April 29, 2024, 02:59:53 AM
Our approach will be really sensible. Tough love is involved. Showing care by setting boundaries is important, not cutting them off. No gambling debt bailouts or monetary aid. Its firm and tough, but it demonstrates you want to help them win in life, not slots.

Professional help? An absolute must. I know the best individuals, including therapists. They're experts at decoding these complex habits and getting to the root cause. Its not defeatist to suggest therapy - its planning a huge comeback. Remember, slips happen. Dont panic when they do. Show them their progress. Sometimes you take two steps forward and one step back when negotiating a huge deal. But you persevere. Thats wining.

Helping a person going through such an experience is never easy, and it is even more difficult if that person is living with you, however there is not really an approach that works best over the other, and instead we must adjust our actions based on the circumstances.

As if we see that this person is reacting positively to our suggestions, then taking a soft approach is the best option, but if that person begins to refuse our advice and they even steal money or other stuff from us, then that is the time to take a hard stand, and if things do not improve, it may be even necessary to kick them out of your house before you lose everything due to their addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Accardo on April 29, 2024, 03:34:38 AM
Our approach will be really sensible. Tough love is involved. Showing care by setting boundaries is important, not cutting them off. No gambling debt bailouts or monetary aid. Its firm and tough, but it demonstrates you want to help them win in life, not slots.

Professional help? An absolute must. I know the best individuals, including therapists. They're experts at decoding these complex habits and getting to the root cause. Its not defeatist to suggest therapy - its planning a huge comeback. Remember, slips happen. Dont panic when they do. Show them their progress. Sometimes you take two steps forward and one step back when negotiating a huge deal. But you persevere. Thats wining.

Helping a person going through such an experience is never easy, and it is even more difficult if that person is living with you, however there is not really an approach that works best over the other, and instead we must adjust our actions based on the circumstances.

As if we see that this person is reacting positively to our suggestions, then taking a soft approach is the best option, but if that person begins to refuse our advice and they even steal money or other stuff from us, then that is the time to take a hard stand, and if things do not improve, it may be even necessary to kick them out of your house before you lose everything due to their addiction.

Kicking them out is risky on its own. Because if he's family, nothing will make you forget about him. They'll always be on your mind and if they eventually get into trouble, it'll bother you as well. I think working alongside their emotional problem will help the person have a rethink. Sometimes argument won't help, in cases like addiction. Because the player doesn't think he's wrong with his actions. Hence, taking care of the person seem to be the right option and more effective. It's quite difficult, but it's worth doing.

Helping other people out of their trouble also helps in building a better society. Doing it the tough ways hurts both the helper and the recipient. Thereby, increasing the anger on seeing one another. That's why therapists don't engage into argument with their clients. They focus more on building strong relationship with the person, making them smile, remind them of their past and change their perspectives of life. Some approaches with kindness is more effective to invite a positive self thought on the addict. When the player gets better, it's a fine idea to refer them to a therapist for some finishing touches.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: angrybirdy on May 03, 2024, 11:28:41 AM
Our approach will be really sensible. Tough love is involved. Showing care by setting boundaries is important, not cutting them off. No gambling debt bailouts or monetary aid. Its firm and tough, but it demonstrates you want to help them win in life, not slots.

Professional help? An absolute must. I know the best individuals, including therapists. They're experts at decoding these complex habits and getting to the root cause. Its not defeatist to suggest therapy - its planning a huge comeback. Remember, slips happen. Dont panic when they do. Show them their progress. Sometimes you take two steps forward and one step back when negotiating a huge deal. But you persevere. Thats wining.

Helping a person going through such an experience is never easy, and it is even more difficult if that person is living with you, however there is not really an approach that works best over the other, and instead we must adjust our actions based on the circumstances.

As if we see that this person is reacting positively to our suggestions, then taking a soft approach is the best option, but if that person begins to refuse our advice and they even steal money or other stuff from us, then that is the time to take a hard stand, and if things do not improve, it may be even necessary to kick them out of your house before you lose everything due to their addiction.

Kicking them out is risky on its own. Because if he's family, nothing will make you forget about him. They'll always be on your mind and if they eventually get into trouble, it'll bother you as well. I think working alongside their emotional problem will help the person have a rethink. Sometimes argument won't help, in cases like addiction. Because the player doesn't think he's wrong with his actions. Hence, taking care of the person seem to be the right option and more effective. It's quite difficult, but it's worth doing.

Helping other people out of their trouble also helps in building a better society. Doing it the tough ways hurts both the helper and the recipient. Thereby, increasing the anger on seeing one another. That's why therapists don't engage into argument with their clients. They focus more on building strong relationship with the person, making them smile, remind them of their past and change their perspectives of life. Some approaches with kindness is more effective to invite a positive self thought on the addict. When the player gets better, it's a fine idea to refer them to a therapist for some finishing touches.

That's why it's really better to refer them to consult with professionals because those medical allied are always there to help them recover from whatever they are going through and at the same time, extending emotional support from their family will also help them more because people under the influence of addiction, their minds and awareness are divided, they still have the feeling that they want to get out of the situation so they also have to help themselves.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: I_Anime on May 03, 2024, 12:53:43 PM
1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

That's true , because being mean to them won't change anything And it might even endup making things worse, so is better to be gentle and nice to them , and always keep them busy with other activities that will remove Their kind from gambling for sometime, and try be patient with them , because it took alot of gambling sections before being addicted to gambling, so it may take time before that individual can limit the urge of gambling regularly.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: joeperry on May 03, 2024, 01:22:10 PM
I would choose to tell them harshly to come to their senses and tell them real facts and truths on what's happening but sometimes being harsh doesn't help at all and staying and sticking to the person too. It still depends on the individual but the best and the effective way to help them is not by talking or staying beside them but seeking professional help as you will not know the effect of what you are doing to them. Sometimes when you are trying to help, they become more aggressive and be more addictive to gambling than helping them out but this is case to case scenario.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Strongkored on May 03, 2024, 02:40:44 PM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Number one would probably be better because forcing the person to stop will take them away from us so that we can no longer monitor them or approach them to give them advice and resuscitate them.
However, of all this, in my opinion, the most appropriate thing is to take him to a professional to get the right treatment because an expert has the right method to apply and help the person, although it cannot be denied that success also depends on the person's willingness to get out of the addiction they are experiencing, so no matter how hard we try to help him, it won't work if he refuses to recover from addiction.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Hispo on May 03, 2024, 04:46:13 PM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Number one would probably be better because forcing the person to stop will take them away from us so that we can no longer monitor them or approach them to give them advice and resuscitate them.
However, of all this, in my opinion, the most appropriate thing is to take him to a professional to get the right treatment because an expert has the right method to apply and help the person, although it cannot be denied that success also depends on the person's willingness to get out of the addiction they are experiencing, so no matter how hard we try to help him, it won't work if he refuses to recover from addiction.

It is a personal perception I have on gambling addiction, if the person who is addicted to gambling has not get involved with drugs and other illegal substances, then I still there is a good percentage, a good chance for that person to fully recover from their situation and start again to live a healthy life with no addictions.
I say it because I have seen stories of people who were pretty much addicted to hard drugs like Cocaine and crack cocaine and some of them managed to recover and stay clean for a long time until reaching a healthy and productive life again. So that could be a signal of hope for anyone who is dealing with problem gambling and no drugs.

Also, keep in mind, while it is true one is supposed to find professional help to treat gambling addiction, that professional help is not always at the reach of people, mostly because the economical situation of the family/household and the costs of those healthcare programs. It would be better for people going through it to have some subsidized help from the government, instead on going for quacks and purely religious help.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: milewilda on May 03, 2024, 04:56:27 PM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Number one would probably be better because forcing the person to stop will take them away from us so that we can no longer monitor them or approach them to give them advice and resuscitate them.
However, of all this, in my opinion, the most appropriate thing is to take him to a professional to get the right treatment because an expert has the right method to apply and help the person, although it cannot be denied that success also depends on the person's willingness to get out of the addiction they are experiencing, so no matter how hard we try to help him, it won't work if he refuses to recover from addiction.

It is a personal perception I have on gambling addiction, if the person who is addicted to gambling has not get involved with drugs and other illegal substances, then I still there is a good percentage, a good chance for that person to fully recover from their situation and start again to live a healthy life with no addictions.
I say it because I have seen stories of people who were pretty much addicted to hard drugs like Cocaine and crack cocaine and some of them managed to recover and stay clean for a long time until reaching a healthy and productive life again. So that could be a signal of hope for anyone who is dealing with problem gambling and no drugs.

Also, keep in mind, while it is true one is supposed to find professional help to treat gambling addiction, that professional help is not always at the reach of people, mostly because the economical situation of the family/household and the costs of those healthcare programs. It would be better for people going through it to have some subsidized help from the government, instead on going for quacks and purely religious help.
Yes, i do agree with this approach on which there's still really that chance that it would really be resolved out considering that he/she's really not that still involved with other forms of addiction on which this could really be simply means that they would really be having that kind of chance on having such recovery in terms of this one on where we do know that their mind is really that only focus on gambling addiction and not on having others like drugs or any forms of addiction on which this would really be making more the situation even gets tougher. This is why it would really be best that when helping out someone whose inside the family then a better approach on that #1 on which it will really be that recommended on trying out to be calm and something that more chill to explain about its cons and its something that should really be needing up to stop
rather than on trying out to scold them up for them to quit. Getting harshs approach wouldnt really be leading you nowhere but somehow if that #1 wont work then you would be going for #2 of course.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Accardo on May 03, 2024, 07:32:28 PM
That's why it's really better to refer them to consult with professionals because those medical allied are always there to help them recover from whatever they are going through and at the same time, extending emotional support from their family will also help them more because people under the influence of addiction, their minds and awareness are divided, they still have the feeling that they want to get out of the situation so they also have to help themselves.

Indeed, some gamblers have the strength and energy to help themselves escape gambling addiction. But it's only possible if the gambler later realizes he's no longer living his real lifestyle. Gambling could redirect the thoughts of a player to think he's still on the right track. Those players who still have themselves on check despite suffering addiction can escape addiction with lesser help from friends. But a player who is still glued and enjoys his addiction will hardly comply with his helpers. As he is still in love with the problem such that he hardly thinks of something else.

However, they still get to realize that their lifestyle is not orderly, but it's easily forgotten when the addict feels like to gamble. Such gamblers need to be allowed enough time to have a rethink before taking them to a therapist. If he's not interested in getting better they'll be no therapy. Hence, I'll refer an addict who actually wants to change to therapy. And try as much as possible to get the countervailing addict to focus on something else which could make him have some distractions whenever he wants to gamble. He could be participating in two other activities which he loves. Thereby, cutting short the time he invest on gambling.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Huppercase on May 03, 2024, 08:15:10 PM
Helping a person going through such an experience is never easy, and it is even more difficult if that person is living with you, however there is not really an approach that works best over the other, and instead we must adjust our actions based on the circumstances.

Closeness doesn't make helping and addicted gamblersl difficult, the problem lies in the affected person, if the addicted gambler is so deep, it will be difficult to help the person out but if the person is not deep into gambling, you might have your way out of him if you try harder.

A friend that you are actually closer to will likely listen to you no matter how deep the person is in gambling, if you talk to them and they never listen to you for once, the you guys are never close in the first place. A friend does listen to another person in all situation.

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As if we see that this person is reacting positively to our suggestions, then taking a soft approach is the best option, but if that person begins to refuse our advice and they even steal money or other stuff from us, then that is the time to take a hard stand, and if things do not improve, it may be even necessary to kick them out of your house before you lose everything due to their addiction.

When you said approach, I laugh because you are making gambling addiction looks like a person that is running mad. An addiction is just when someone who loves gambling don't behave as a regular person, like consistently borrowing money to gamble, ready to place money everyday, these things are just things you discuss with mouth and nothing serious, just know that you can't force adult to your will.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: ChiBitCTy on May 03, 2024, 08:28:40 PM
It all depends on your relationship with this family member.  Is it a brother or sister, or perhaps a mother or father? There's obviously going to be a big difference in how you would handle these types of situations depending on your exact relationship with the "addict".  An important thing to remember is that many people will be unwilling to change their ways until they hit "rock bottom".  Just something to always keep in mind.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Lanatsa on May 03, 2024, 09:54:44 PM
It all depends on your relationship with this family member.  Is it a brother or sister, or perhaps a mother or father? There's obviously going to be a big difference in how you would handle these types of situations depending on your exact relationship with the "addict".  An important thing to remember is that many people will be unwilling to change their ways until they hit "rock bottom".  Just something to always keep in mind.
Doesnt matter whether your father or your sister as long it would really be that inside the family then each member does have the rights on trying out to help someone whose at in trouble but of course it would really be that something that depends if its already that too obvious or already that asking for some help. There are no other things in life on which you could really be able to get help from but first will be your family and as a family member then you would really be doing your very best to help on whose at having those addiction problems. We do know that if it becomes even more worst then the family would really be that
still affected with that and we cant really be able to afford on letting them suffer and we would really be helping out as much as we could. So proper explanation and helping them out to get rid of gambling
on what are the possible things that you could really be able to help on.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: klidex on May 04, 2024, 04:34:08 AM
Number one would probably be better because forcing the person to stop will take them away from us so that we can no longer monitor them or approach them to give them advice and resuscitate them.
However, of all this, in my opinion, the most appropriate thing is to take him to a professional to get the right treatment because an expert has the right method to apply and help the person, although it cannot be denied that success also depends on the person's willingness to get out of the addiction they are experiencing, so no matter how hard we try to help him, it won't work if he refuses to recover from addiction.
That's right, I agree with you, forcing someone to be a little harsh will only cause debates which will lead to fights or arguments which will make the chemistry between families no longer harmonious. So it's better to advise them to remain gentle even though it doesn't work for those who have stubborn nature but still over time they will melt. Like a stone that continues to be dripped with water over time the stone will become punctured due to the drops so advising an addict we really have to be patient especially if they are our family and we love them by continuing to advise them, if things This still doesn't work. You can leave it to those who are experts in handling cases like this. Curing an addict is indeed difficult and won't work just because of advice or being rude.

Well, the main factor that can encourage a person to stop is only himself who has the determination to recover with the encouragement within himself to recover then he will be easy to stop but if there is a coercion factor and he has no intention to stop himself then it will be difficult to get rid of it will continue to think of ways to continue gambling even when everyone has forbidden it, they will still make every effort to fulfill their desires.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: SeriouslyGiveaway on May 08, 2024, 04:34:10 AM
Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Each person will have different perspectives and methods in solving problems. And people addicted to gambling are also different, not everyone can use soft methods and vice versa. Depending on the personality of each person, we will have specific methods for each object. However, there are also some cases where it is necessary to apply tough measures from the beginning, that is when they fall into a dangerous situation or can no longer control their behavior. In this situation, taking a tough approach can stop the negative behavior right away before applying other measures.

In addition, we must note that we should always respect and ensure the safety and rights of people with gambling addiction while helping them get treatment. There should be no excessive coercive behavior, which can cause the opposite effect. Helping a person overcome a gambling addiction is a long process, requiring patience and time, so any hasty actions can ruin everything.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: rodskee on May 08, 2024, 04:54:34 AM
Forget yelling and finger-pointing. Instead, have a chill conversation. Let them know you care and want to help them beat this gambling thing. Try to see things from their perspective. What's pushing them to gamble? Maybe they're stressed, bored, or something else is going on. By understanding them better, you can offer support without the judgment.
that is right , those type of addicted gamblers knows nothing now but to gamble and what others
might be thinking so adding a hard conversation will just make them trust no one so chill and show of
concern conversation will help them understand everything but try not to give them any amount
resulting to more gambling games.


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Loving someone doesn't mean letting them keep digging a hole. Set some clear ground rules, like not lending them cash or rescuing them from gambling debts. It's tough love, but it shows you care and want them to get back on their feet. You can't fix everything yourself. A therapist can help them unpack the reasons behind the gambling and teach them how to deal with cravings. Find some treatment options and nudge them towards getting professional help. Getting better isn't always a straight line. There might be bumps in the road. Don't freak out! Be there for them, remind them of the progress they've made, and help them get back on track.
you have a good heart mate and you seems to be a calm person , you will truly help people that is
dealing in addiction because they need someone like you.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: irhact on May 08, 2024, 05:01:27 AM
Most people come from familes where gambling is not tolerated or is seen as something that's not for responsible people and i believe that's why most people are still addicted to it and gamble secretly, sometimes they which they could open up to close families for help concerning their addiction but then the fear of being backlashed would stop them from doing so.

 Most individuals forget that gamblers are humans too, who knowingly or out of ignorance made the wrong decision therefore it's our duty as family, friend or close neighbors to help give advice to people suffering from gambling addiction. It's something that could ruin the financial strength of an individual that's why i think the best remedy for an addicted gambler is booking a Section with a psychologist.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Samlucky O on May 08, 2024, 09:46:00 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.
Sometimes they way you guys describe a gambling addict, it looks like someone who is psychologically isane that need a psychiatrist or a sick patient that needs a doctor. All this idea propounded here looks pretty like someone who needs medical attention or a case that need people around you as if something tremendous has happen to the person. An addict just need an advice on how to control his emotions on Gambling habit, not some sort of pampering him like a sick person. We should be able to differentiate between a sick person and a gambling addict.



Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: angrybirdy on May 08, 2024, 10:11:12 AM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.
Sometimes they way you guys describe a gambling addict, it looks like someone who is psychologically isane that need a psychiatrist or a sick patient that needs a doctor. All this idea propounded here looks pretty like someone who needs medical attention or a case that need people around you as if something tremendous has happen to the person. An addict just need an advice on how to control his emotions on Gambling habit, not some sort of pampering him like a sick person. We should be able to differentiate between a sick person and a gambling addict.


Fyi, there's a different level of addiction, if it is easy to cure them by giving advice, maybe there is no addict in the world, but it is not that easy especially if the person has reached the worst case level of addiction, they can no longer be taught or cured only through counseling because the only thing that can help them is the guidance of the family and intensive observation from medical experts. Maybe you will understand better what the purpose of psychiatrists or psychologists in the world is when you have encountered an acquaintance or relative who ended up being addicted.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: rahmad2nd on May 08, 2024, 12:26:56 PM
Most people come from familes where gambling is not tolerated or is seen as something that's not for responsible people and i believe that's why most people are still addicted to it and gamble secretly, sometimes they which they could open up to close families for help concerning their addiction but then the fear of being backlashed would stop them from doing so.

 Most individuals forget that gamblers are humans too, who knowingly or out of ignorance made the wrong decision therefore it's our duty as family, friend or close neighbors to help give advice to people suffering from gambling addiction. It's something that could ruin the financial strength of an individual that's why i think the best remedy for an addicted gambler is booking a Section with a psychologist.

It is not taboo for us if there are many gamblers who hide their gambling, especially where gambling itself is not tolerated in a family. regardless of its relation to beliefs, or other reasons and so on. for me it doesn't have to be specific that this always leads to addiction, regardless of how someone secretly gambles without wanting their family to know. there are many reasons, and it doesn't have to be someone who is really addicted. although it cannot be denied, there are many cases where someone becomes addicted because of what you said in this post. The problem is, it's not that most people forget that gamblers are people too. It's just that fanaticism and other negative thoughts make most non-gamblers stigmatize that gambling is an addiction. In fact, addiction is the result of not having self-control. which starts from understanding, knowledge and experience. In the end, most gamblers are trapped in a situation that is a problem for them. Not a few, many gamblers are damaged due to what they do excessively, but not all gamblers are addicts.

But what is certain is that this entertainment provides a game that provides rewards and uniqueness in each game. Maybe the solution you mentioned in this post could be a reference for someone who wants to get rid of addiction. However, if it is not based on a firm desire and determination, usually a treatment like this will not last long. Honestly, I'm not a specialist in this field. However, there are many treatments that can be done by someone who wants to get rid of their addiction. Talking to the family and finding a solution is an important part. Furthermore, there are many other methods that can be used by the addict and his family to solve problems like this. However, each person has a different method for dealing with healing.



Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Apocollapse on May 08, 2024, 01:56:19 PM
An addict just need an advice on how to control his emotions on Gambling habit, not some sort of pampering him like a sick person. We should be able to differentiate between a sick person and a gambling addict.
Have you met a gambling addict in real life? do all of gambling addicts become normal after you give "advices"? don't underestimate mental health issues, you need to be grateful if you didn't have it, while other people are fighting with it.

Most people come from familes where gambling is not tolerated or is seen as something that's not for responsible people and i believe that's why most people are still addicted to it and gamble secretly, sometimes they which they could open up to close families for help concerning their addiction but then the fear of being backlashed would stop them from doing so.
Exactly, it's why many people choose to share their secret with their friends instead of their parents or families, it's really ironic to see it. If the parents or families are open minded and don't just scold over their kids mistakes, I'm sure the kids dare to share their secrets.


Title: Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them
Post by: Zoomic on May 08, 2024, 02:50:08 PM
As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.
Sometimes they way you guys describe a gambling addict, it looks like someone who is psychologically isane that need a psychiatrist or a sick patient that needs a doctor. All this idea propounded here looks pretty like someone who needs medical attention or a case that need people around you as if something tremendous has happen to the person. An addict just need an advice on how to control his emotions on Gambling habit, not some sort of pampering him like a sick person. We should be able to differentiate between a sick person and a gambling addict.


Fyi, there's a different level of addiction, if it is easy to cure them by giving advice, maybe there is no addict in the world, but it is not that easy especially if the person has reached the worst case level of addiction, they can no longer be taught or cured only through counseling because the only thing that can help them is the guidance of the family and intensive observation from medical experts. Maybe you will understand better what the purpose of psychiatrists or psychologists in the world is when you have encountered an acquaintance or relative who ended up being addicted.

I have come to realise that people only complain about gambling addiction of someone close to them only when they begin to see and feel the negative impacts of that person's lifestyle. I have seen quite a good number of addicted gamblers who have been very lucky to earn big consecutively from gambling instead of losing. Families and friends flock around them and get as much financial benefits they can get. These are thesame people that would advice or even disassociate themselves from the addict if he/she was always getting involved in troubles.

Families and friends have a lot of roles to play in ensuring that those around them are safe. First, they need to have an open mind towards gambling. They do not need to condemn gambling so bad that anyone who eventually finds interest in gambling begins to gamble in secret, this will make it difficult to help the gambler when need arises. Every advice given to a gambler goes a long way in shaping the life of that gambler. Whether  a gambler is doing well or not, Families should always speak up and do something whenever they find something fishy. Before bringing in third parties (psychiatrists or psychologists), the loved ones have a lot of roles to play.