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February 03, 2024, 08:38:34 AM
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The risk of losing the money you bet is definitely the same as losing in gambling. This cannot be avoided with certainty, because that is the rule in gambling. The gambling that is carried out is expected to be done with money that is ready to be lost, because the risk of losing in gambling cannot be avoided, let alone eliminated. and the amount of risk that will occur depends on the amount of the bet, the higher the bet, the greater the risk, but no one knows about luck maybe everything can turn around instantly, but don't expect too much that winning will be easy to get.

It's clear that in gambling, in my opinion, it's not right to just hope for a win, because the chance of winning in gambling is very slim and different from the big chance of losing,  so if you only think about winning, in my opinion that's the wrong thing, because it's impossible to win easily.  You also have to accept the reality of losses that inevitably occur in gambling.

You are right, the risk taken to lose or increase the money is actually gambling itself and the exact amount used in the bet refers to this. In fact, I think we both explained our views differently from different perspectives because as far as I understand, what you want to explain is the determination of the amount of money to be used in gambling and the risk posed by using that money in gambling as a result of this decision. What I want to explain is that it depends entirely on the preferences within the gambling itself. I would like to give an example other than sports betting;

Let's imagine that there is a wheel game and there are five possibilities in this wheel. Let these possibilities provide a profit of 0%, 25%, 50%, 100% and 500% of the bet amount, respectively. Again, the probability of these possibilities coming is as follows;

0% chance of winning: 35%
25% chance of winning: 30%
50% chance of winning: 25%
100% chance of winning: 8%
500% chance of winning: 2%

Using the example here, let's assume that a gambler bets with 10 units of money. In this scenario, your point is that this gambler gambles away 10 units of his/her money and takes this risk to make a profit. The point I want to explain is that this person can win by dividing his/her entire balance into 5 or 10 different games instead of using it in a single game, considering the 500% chance of winning.

I continue with the point I want to explain;

Let's say this gambler loses all his/her money in a single game with a 0% chance of winning. In this case, he/she took a high risk and aimed for a 500% chance of profit with his/her 10 units of money and took this risk to earn 50 units of money. When the same gambler plays 10 different games with 10 units of money, he/she gets a 0% chance of winning 5 times, a 100% chance of winning 3 times and a 500% chance of winning 2 times. In this case, he/she has ensured the risk of the money he/she risked to spend on gambling through capital management and in return he/she will have 18 units of money.

I hope that with this example I was able to accurately convey the points that we both wanted to explain and to compare our thoughts correctly.

you explained in detail, which is good. because it is true that with the opportunities that exist in gambling, it is possible that it could happen, but in my opinion it will not run completely smoothly. and with your detailed explanation, it is also impossible for this to happen smoothly if you are not a bookie yourself, unless you are a bookie, but what you have to pay attention to in gambling in my opinion is that the chance of losing is greater than the chance of winning, also in this way The risks involved in gambling cannot be hidden or even eliminated, because they have become a definite factor in gambling.

and with each person's different attitude or thoughts it is a certain thing in gambling, there are people who use for example $10 or $20 for gambling and they bet with a small bet amount because maybe they believe in winning that can be obtained by gradually so he plays neatly and neatly without using emotion or passion. On the other hand, there are also people who gamble using $10 or $20 with lust or emotion and thirst for victory, so they gamble using large bet amounts because they believe that the bigger the bet, the bigger the win they can get, but even so, I think it's luck. will also still determine the end of the gambling. In fact, if they really want to play crazy,  they can place big bets, this happens to gamblers who are thirsty for winning.

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February 03, 2024, 09:20:54 AM
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In gambling, your staking power does not really matter, but your luck determine your success, I've Won a lot of money like $700 from betting with just  80 cents. While I've lost up to $10 stakes to win even $50. Your luck can shine on your first day of gambling, and you might lose, just like there's no fixed formula for gambling and no definite ROI, so you don't gamble with all your heart and funds. You gamble with  little or no strings attached and at the time you find yourself getting emotional, you just quit before it becomes uncontrollable.

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February 03, 2024, 10:20:53 AM
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Risk and reward goes side by side as that saying says the higher the risk the higher the reward.However this is not for everyone as most people are not keen on risking more than that they can afford to lose and as such these persons are always complaining about how they are never winning big enough.The real winners who win big are the ones losing consistenly for a long period of time until one time they hit it big when they never expect it.
I agree with that and how I wish I screenshot my win just a while ago.

I am betting at Keno for 8 numbers at high risk which means if I hit 6 numbers I will get x270. For 7 it's x600.
Looking at my graph, I was so deep at losing x1000 of my bet and then suddenly the RTP clicked. x600 came out first and then x270 came out twice. That happened in like 50 bets only. When I saw my graph turn green, I stopped the auto bet because I was scared that it might happen again and I didn't like it because it was stressing me out.
Winning can sometimes require some patience and courage. There are other ways a gambling site will give back but if our wallets are thin, let's not expect something will happen in a short span of time. Only the super lucky ones can do that. But those who win at the start mean losing in the middle and that is more stressful than losing first before you win.
I think I have been in many different circumstances and I know how to weigh the more stressful events with the enjoyable part.

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February 03, 2024, 10:36:02 AM
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Gambling has a very big disadvantage, which is that in most cases, in order to win, you have to put your bet on the line. And as a rule, in the event of a favorable outcome, you gain less than you lose in the event of an unfavorable outcome. This is not always true, there are exceptions to this rule, but in general it is true.
What are the exceptions to this rule?
- In the case of an arbitrage strategy, you are a conditionally win-win player, but the bookmaker easily recognizes forks and limits your winnings.
- If you play for high odds. But as a rule, there is a very small probability of winning here.
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And gambling is much worse in terms of risk than, for example, drophunting. In drophunting, we can win, but we actually risk little.
Yes, it's no secret that the house usually prevails. But, to claim that you always lose more than you gain? My friend, you're failing to see the big picture

Exemptions? They are essential, not merely footnotes. For example, arbitrage is a technique that demands expertise and diligence; it's not merely a way to get around the rules. Are bookmakers starting to realize this? Sure, but that's the game. It demands adaptability, sharpness. Regarding long odds, the excitement lies in the pursuit, isn't it? The remote probability of a windfall

Risk vs reward is an age-old dance. You say drophunting is less dangerous. Maybe. But where's the thrill of the unadulterated edge of risk that comes with gambling? We have more goals in mind than winning

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February 03, 2024, 11:11:41 AM
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In gambling, your staking power does not really matter, but your luck determine your success, I've Won a lot of money like $700 from betting with just  80 cents. While I've lost up to $10 stakes to win even $50. Your luck can shine on your first day of gambling, and you might lose, just like there's no fixed formula for gambling and no definite ROI, so you don't gamble with all your heart and funds. You gamble with  little or no strings attached and at the time you find yourself getting emotional, you just quit before it becomes uncontrollable.

there will never be one suitable formula for gambling, it will always be like that, some say that gambling continuously can increase your chances of winning, but there are also those who say that gambling on certain days can increase your chances of winning.

the most important thing is that you yourself have to regulate the gambling that you are doing, don't exceed your limits, don't let yourself get into debt just for gambling, that will be bad for you.

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February 03, 2024, 12:35:31 PM
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In gambling, your staking power does not really matter, but your luck determine your success, I've Won a lot of money like $700 from betting with just  80 cents. While I've lost up to $10 stakes to win even $50. Your luck can shine on your first day of gambling, and you might lose, just like there's no fixed formula for gambling and no definite ROI, so you don't gamble with all your heart and funds. You gamble with  little or no strings attached and at the time you find yourself getting emotional, you just quit before it becomes uncontrollable.

there will never be one suitable formula for gambling, it will always be like that, some say that gambling continuously can increase your chances of winning, but there are also those who say that gambling on certain days can increase your chances of winning.

the most important thing is that you yourself have to regulate the gambling that you are doing, don't exceed your limits, don't let yourself get into debt just for gambling, that will be bad for you.

Those are all "ways" and those ways will not be completely useful in the outcome of gambling, because after all gambling is always about the possibility between winning or losing, and on the other hand if indeed some of the ways that others always mention can be useful to increase the chances of winning then I would ask, where did they get the idea, did the casino tell them about how to win? no, and if that's true then why do defeats still occur in between the strategies they do that they think are accurate? honestly I never thought of any way to gamble, we have to go back to the initial understanding that the name gambling is an activity that risks our money with the agreement that whatever the results at the end of the session we must be able to accept it, the reason? it's because gambling is an activity that always cannot be known about the results, therefore this activity is called gambling.

So the point is not to go crazy on gambling by doing everything possible just to win, if you really want to get a lot of money then there is no other way but to work because there is certainty that can guarantee you to earn, casinos will not be able to give winnings that often if you are basically just a gambler who expects nothing more than to win, so it's better to look for sure - sure and not too much if you want to gamble.

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February 03, 2024, 12:45:23 PM
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Good day guys, how is the gambling industry helping you this period?

However I just want to say that in the game world gamblers are always there to bet and the important thing here is when a gambler can not risk he also can not win, true or false?
Many might still believe that a gamblers who's just gambling at the first day might end up winning w huge amount of money that he wasn't expecting but the truth is that as long as you stake on bet you have already risk your money, be it big or small.
Every thing worth doing in life involve risk taking even the life we live on is risk itself because there are some certain action we have to take which hopefully would prompt positive outcome likewise in gambling too risk must be taken to guarantee some profits, however risk taking varies the lesser the risk the better though expected massive profit demand high risk personally I prefers taking small risk and earn reasonable profit thus the bottom line is you can never earn anything in gambling without taking any risk however only gamble with the amount of money you can afford to lose with a small risk.

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February 03, 2024, 01:10:33 PM
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Taking risk is the thing, everything in life requires you to take risk before getting the big bag.It is only risk takers that are successful,while those who are afraid to take risk should be ready to live the life of the unsuccessful.Thesame thing in gambling,the odds you believe so much that it's not a risk will end up cutting you,while those risky ones are the ones who will play.If you aren't ready to lose money,then you cannot also recieve money,it is vice versa.
A friend of mine took a risk that involves his lifetime saving to play a game he believed,at then end of the day,he ended up winning that money, and is now leaving an extravagant lifestyle.But if he hadn't taken that risk,life wouldn't have been soft for him.

Risk is involved in every aspect of life but it should not be recklessly done, a risk taker should know when to embark on risk. Though. Being afraid to take a step will make you to be at a particular circle for as long as you are not ready to make progress, although I fancy your statement, but gambling should not be giving much risk because of it's uncertainty, this is an activity that we know that engaging in those not guarantee fortune for us, no matter how smart we are, gambling risk can be disastrous.

Your friend involving his life time savings in gambling and being favour through that process does not mean that it will favour other people, the truth is that if we must do this, it should be done with precautions.


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February 03, 2024, 01:17:57 PM
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However I just want to say that in the game world gamblers are always there to bet and the important thing here is when a gambler can not risk he also can not win, true or false?

For sure, you cannot gamble until you put your money in gambling. This means that for gambling you need to risk your money. Those who are afraid of losing money, they should not come near to gambling because gambling is meant only those who are risk takers, you have and can afford to lose money too and in the process, if they are lucky, they may win big in gambling.

Many might still believe that a gamblers who's just gambling at the first day might end up winning w huge amount of money that he wasn't expecting but the truth is that as long as you stake on bet you have already risk your money, be it big or small.

It's not about winning big on one day or winning on few days and losing on others. It's about your overall progress in gambling as how many games you play, how much money you have invested and then are you in a total loss or a total profit. Usually, a good gambler will not risk a high amount in each game, so his winnings will be low too but he may have more chances to be in overall profit. On the other hand, an emotional gambler may risk high bets and therefore, even if he wins some games, most of the time he will be in overall loss.

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February 03, 2024, 01:28:21 PM
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Good day guys, how is the gambling industry helping you this period?

However I just want to say that in the game world gamblers are always there to bet and the important thing here is when a gambler can not risk he also can not win, true or false?
Many might still believe that a gamblers who's just gambling at the first day might end up winning w huge amount of money that he wasn't expecting but the truth is that as long as you stake on bet you have already risk your money, be it big or small.
Every thing worth doing in life involve risk taking even the life we live on is risk itself because there are some certain action we have to take which hopefully would prompt positive outcome likewise in gambling too risk must be taken to guarantee some profits, however risk taking varies the lesser the risk the better though expected massive profit demand high risk personally I prefers taking small risk and earn reasonable profit thus the bottom line is you can never earn anything in gambling without taking any risk however only gamble with the amount of money you can afford to lose with a small risk.
Sometimes even a small risk can lead to unexpected consequences. I have often seen how, for example, a bet on a football match with odds of 1.1 for a huge amount of money led to a loss, although before that it seemed that it was an easy +10%. You don’t need to bet half of your money allocated for the game on such odds. We must remember, even at a small risk, that it is realized on us at this particular moment in time.

As for me, I prefer to take on more risk, and in sporting events I will not bet lower than odds of 2, but most of all I like to bet on odds of 3 and higher. Of course, I will risk a small part of the deposit and be very careful about who exactly I bet on, it all depends on the strategy. But risk is always central and we must think about it first.

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February 03, 2024, 01:34:06 PM
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Only risk what you can afford to lose. And we know that a gambler can only win big like more chances if they risk big so dont expect a lot if you only gamble a little. Sire there are people who wins big with smal bets but thats what luck does so dont lose hope
For you to succeed in gambling, you need to take risk in that journey because there is no way you can gamble to win without experience loss from your gambling which is the risk I'm talking about here, and don't forget that loss will surely come one day no matter how professional you are in the gambling but don't give up whenever you experience loss because victory is waiting for you in the future.

If you embrace luck in your gambling you will know that is good to win in gambling because the joy that will fill your heart at the moment, it will make you think that loss will never come until you spend what you have gain in the past on gambling without no good results, that is why gambling is full of risk.

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Gambling is different from business, although both have to take risks, but the risks of gambling are much greater, people sometimes push their gambling too much without thinking about the risks because what they hope is that if they win, the profits will also be big, but if they fail to achieve this victory, it will end in regret. Therefore, if you want to take a risk, think about it carefully before you regret it.
Those who gamble don't all understand the risks in gambling, if they understood the risks maybe they wouldn't choose gambling, just look at people who always gamble when they lose they won't accept it gracefully, even though gambling is full of risks but they take that route By not wanting to admit defeat, many gamblers are addicted because they keep trying to recover all their losses because they are not willing to accept the losses they have experienced.

Gamblers who dare to take risks and understand the risks of gambling usually don't care about their losses, even their winnings are only considered a bonus for them. Such gamblers are usually gamblers who have a healthy mindset that considers gambling to be just entertainment and for fun, nothing more than That. That's why everyone who wants to gamble must be able to learn about the risks so that when they experience defeat and loss, they won't try to chase it, let alone recover it. it will never work, a responsible and successful gambler is a gambler who knows the risks
How you play matters most. If you're gambling for fun, you're on the correct route, in my opinion.

Allow me to discuss danger. I understand, respect, and most importantly, dont allow it affect my game enjoyment. Those who realize the dangers and play anyhow might appreciate gambling for what it is: fun. Its like going to a party without anyone you know - you might make friends or not. You sought experience.

Fun gambling must be supported. You want to promote a mindset that values the experience over the result. My motto is "Enjoy the game for the game's sake." Thus, you gain a fun experience regardless of the outcome. This mentality can turn gambling into a fun activity.

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In gambling, your staking power does not really matter, but your luck determine your success, I've Won a lot of money like $700 from betting with just  80 cents. While I've lost up to $10 stakes to win even $50. Your luck can shine on your first day of gambling, and you might lose, just like there's no fixed formula for gambling and no definite ROI, so you don't gamble with all your heart and funds. You gamble with  little or no strings attached and at the time you find yourself getting emotional, you just quit before it becomes uncontrollable.

there will never be one suitable formula for gambling, it will always be like that, some say that gambling continuously can increase your chances of winning, but there are also those who say that gambling on certain days can increase your chances of winning.

the most important thing is that you yourself have to regulate the gambling that you are doing, don't exceed your limits, don't let yourself get into debt just for gambling, that will be bad for you.
Yes, managing our gambling time is important so that we don't gamble too often and don't risk losing money more often. But you also don't need to take too big a risk even if you want to win because getting a win from gambling is very difficult, and not many people can get that win. It is important to be able to limit our gambling activities so that we do not run the risk of losing too much money. Always maintaining these limits can give us the opportunity to reduce the number of losses so that we don't have a big risk of losing. We can also win even if we don't take too big a risk because if we are lucky, we can win with just a small bet. Some gamblers have managed to get that win even by betting just a few cents.

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In gambling, your staking power does not really matter, but your luck determine your success, I've Won a lot of money like $700 from betting with just  80 cents. While I've lost up to $10 stakes to win even $50. Your luck can shine on your first day of gambling, and you might lose, just like there's no fixed formula for gambling and no definite ROI, so you don't gamble with all your heart and funds. You gamble with  little or no strings attached and at the time you find yourself getting emotional, you just quit before it becomes uncontrollable.

there will never be one suitable formula for gambling, it will always be like that, some say that gambling continuously can increase your chances of winning, but there are also those who say that gambling on certain days can increase your chances of winning.

the most important thing is that you yourself have to regulate the gambling that you are doing, don't exceed your limits, don't let yourself get into debt just for gambling, that will be bad for you.
Yes, managing our gambling time is important so that we don't gamble too often and don't risk losing money more often. But you also don't need to take too big a risk even if you want to win because getting a win from gambling is very difficult, and not many people can get that win. It is important to be able to limit our gambling activities so that we do not run the risk of losing too much money. Always maintaining these limits can give us the opportunity to reduce the number of losses so that we don't have a big risk of losing. We can also win even if we don't take too big a risk because if we are lucky, we can win with just a small bet. Some gamblers have managed to get that win even by betting just a few cents.

People are too focused on winning so they always try various ways that they think it will be useful to realize the victory they always expect and one of them is by increasing their gambling time to be more frequent, to be honest that this is not the right way, I believe that winning can happen but the problem is that with such a frequent approach then even if they get the victory but obviously in the end it will run out quickly because they gamble too often, unless for example after successfully getting the victory they make changes in terms of gambling planning to gamble less often. On the other hand I would not say that winning is difficult, but what is difficult is getting lucky because this is what can make you get a win, maybe we already know how luck works which means it will not always come to deliver you to victory, and that means you need to implement a more strategic management approach whether it is in terms of time or budget amount so that you do not experience any problems as a result of excessive gambling.

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Sometimes gamblers need to take risks to be able to win a gamble, but the most important thing is how gamblers can accept this risk because we don't know what the outcome of our gambling will be, whether it will win or not, and when gamblers have accepted the risk then they can accept whatever the outcome of their gambling.

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In gambling, your staking power does not really matter, but your luck determine your success, I've Won a lot of money like $700 from betting with just  80 cents. While I've lost up to $10 stakes to win even $50. Your luck can shine on your first day of gambling, and you might lose, just like there's no fixed formula for gambling and no definite ROI, so you don't gamble with all your heart and funds. You gamble with  little or no strings attached and at the time you find yourself getting emotional, you just quit before it becomes uncontrollable.

Exactly. Yep, people create a thread saying you cannot win if you do not take risks. Is it necessary to take risks to win from gambling? I don't think so. Let's say a soccer match is going on and the goal difference is 3-0 and we are in last ten minutes. I know that it's not impossible for a team to score four goals in ten minutes and win the game. But, what is the chance? Would you suggest me to take the risk and place a bet against the team which has scored already three goals? Isn't it too stupid? If I could win a amount without taking too much risk, why should I have to take risk?
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In gambling, your staking power does not really matter, but your luck determine your success, I've Won a lot of money like $700 from betting with just  80 cents. While I've lost up to $10 stakes to win even $50. Your luck can shine on your first day of gambling, and you might lose, just like there's no fixed formula for gambling and no definite ROI, so you don't gamble with all your heart and funds. You gamble with  little or no strings attached and at the time you find yourself getting emotional, you just quit before it becomes uncontrollable.

there will never be one suitable formula for gambling, it will always be like that, some say that gambling continuously can increase your chances of winning, but there are also those who say that gambling on certain days can increase your chances of winning.

the most important thing is that you yourself have to regulate the gambling that you are doing, don't exceed your limits, don't let yourself get into debt just for gambling, that will be bad for you.
Yes I agree with you. There is no definite formula for gambling, sometimes we get trapped in things like this. Gambling early will increase your chances of winning or gambling at certain times will increase your chances of winning. There are many more thoughts like this so that eventually you become accustomed to thinking like this. If you get used to it, your gambling will become increasingly uncontrollable and unhealthy because there is no strategy and no more boundaries which will make gambling have a bad impact on you.

Even so, every gambler must have a basic and reasonable mindset, gamble responsibly, know the financial limits that must be spent, be able to control emotions, then set a strategy and wait for luck.

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February 04, 2024, 03:03:14 AM
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Gambling is different from business, although both have to take risks, but the risks of gambling are much greater, people sometimes push their gambling too much without thinking about the risks because what they hope is that if they win, the profits will also be big, but if they fail to achieve this victory, it will end in regret. Therefore, if you want to take a risk, think about it carefully before you regret it.
Those who gamble don't all understand the risks in gambling, if they understood the risks maybe they wouldn't choose gambling, just look at people who always gamble when they lose they won't accept it gracefully, even though gambling is full of risks but they take that route By not wanting to admit defeat, many gamblers are addicted because they keep trying to recover all their losses because they are not willing to accept the losses they have experienced.

Gamblers who dare to take risks and understand the risks of gambling usually don't care about their losses, even their winnings are only considered a bonus for them. Such gamblers are usually gamblers who have a healthy mindset that considers gambling to be just entertainment and for fun, nothing more than That. That's why everyone who wants to gamble must be able to learn about the risks so that when they experience defeat and loss, they won't try to chase it, let alone recover it. it will never work, a responsible and successful gambler is a gambler who knows the risks
I think everyone who gambles understands the risks because it involves money but it depends on how they use the gambling, if they think gambling can provide benefits by taking risks first then that is a big mistake because we should not consider gambling to seek profit or income. because if you take a big risk of money then you will lose that money and in the end regret that you did not think that the risk of losing in gambling is very big compared to winning so you do not accept that you have experienced a loss so you try to return the initial capital that was this means you have to take another risk to bet, where your losses will be even greater.

We should not gamble to hope for profit so that we can still have fun when gambling and not take risks that are too heavy for us because gamblers who can think about the risks of gambling will definitely be able to control themselves better when gambling.

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Yes, managing our gambling time is important so that we don't gamble too often and don't risk losing money more often. But you also don't need to take too big a risk even if you want to win because getting a win from gambling is very difficult, and not many people can get that win. It is important to be able to limit our gambling activities so that we do not run the risk of losing too much money. Always maintaining these limits can give us the opportunity to reduce the number of losses so that we don't have a big risk of losing. We can also win even if we don't take too big a risk because if we are lucky, we can win with just a small bet. Some gamblers have managed to get that win even by betting just a few cents.
Only main reason for managing gambling time is to be able to control the intensity of gambling, which if this gets out of control then the percentage of gambling addiction will really be easier for every gambler to experience.
Besides this will also save more and make it easier to manage finances.

Big or small risks taken depend on the gambler background, if the gambler background is rich person or someone with lot of money then obviously they will be able to take risks from gambling.
But if it is small gambler or gambler with an economy that can be said to be just enough to live simple life then the risk taken will also be quite small, this is the difference in risk that occurs in the gambling industry.
Although it is true that some gamblers will do the same thing, namely they take risks by exceeding their limits, this is only for those who have suffered from gambling addiction.

Winning or losing at gambling will be the same if you can't respond well, if gambling addict loses they will increase their capital to bet longer.
The same thing happens when they win, they will use the winnings to continue gambling with the aim of winning bigger.
Everything has risks and in this case taking risks without having the right attitude and approach will be completely useless, their victory will only be in vain.

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100% true. There’s no way you can winning money in gambling without staking. The easiest way to say this is that your winnings is proportional to the amount that you stake. Some people like to be on the safe side so they stake a small amount, and in return they win a small amount too. Those who risk more (stake more), they win more. But do not do more than you can afford to lose! The people who stake more probably have their backup funds.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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