Investment in gambling

[Z390]

I will never go into any that's scam just because I believe that I can make money off it, or maybe I think that I am smarter than others, Ponzi schemes are lions dens, even while you know they are and you think you can outsmart them you won't see it coming, that I promise you, gambling is better than Ponzi schemes because Ponzi only favours the early birds, and most of those HYIP platforms don't stay around for more than weeks or month.

I have lost a lot of money through high yield invest and I stopped trusting them, if you want to do this I will advise you should risk very little money, Ponzi is the worst of them all, because you won't know when they will pull the plugs.

Mind you, there is no way to turn gambling into any investment, if you claim that gambling is investment then I don't know where you get your dictionary, these have two different meanings, and gambling will always be more risky and unsafe than investment.

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[maydna]

To reach a level where betting/gambling is an investment, you need to be very good at it. It will be necessary to carry out a very good analysis of the situation, as well as the investments. That's why it's important to know a lot about the subject so that it becomes a true investment.

Gamblers who has become successful in gambling, they consider it as an investment but for those who are unsuccessful it is still a risky wager game. In investment we get assets but with gambling we got this fifty-fifty chances to get a positive shot. 😅

Gambling is not an investment. That is what we need to know. Even though we use some money to gamble, we still risk losing all the money. When we start gambling, the chances of losing will become greater, but many gamblers don't realize this, so they experience even more losses. Meanwhile, if you choose the wrong investment, you also have the potential to lose your money, so if you want to invest, you have to really make sure the investment is safe and can provide profits. We must be able to find more information about the investment before we decide to join so that the good offers do not fool us.

[Hirose UK]

To reach a level where betting/gambling is an investment, you need to be very good at it. It will be necessary to carry out a very good analysis of the situation, as well as the investments. That's why it's important to know a lot about the subject so that it becomes a true investment.

Gamblers who has become successful in gambling, they consider it as an investment but for those who are unsuccessful it is still a risky wager game. In investment we get assets but with gambling we got this fifty-fifty chances to get a positive shot. 😅

Gambling is not an investment. That is what we need to know. Even though we use some money to gamble, we still risk losing all the money. When we start gambling, the chances of losing will become greater, but many gamblers don't realize this, so they experience even more losses. Meanwhile, if you choose the wrong investment, you also have the potential to lose your money, so if you want to invest, you have to really make sure the investment is safe and can provide profits. We must be able to find more information about the investment before we decide to join so that the good offers do not fool us.

Of course, because the real meaning of investment is buying number of assets or shares and saving them for the long term to let the assets or shares work by themselves to have higher value, this is way to generate profits and is often called letting money work to produce money.
But in gambling, some people consider investment in different way, there are those who consider gambling to be good investment because they are risking money, there are also those who consider investing by giving money to other people to bet and can get share of the winnings.
Assumptions and points of view regarding investment in gambling have many things that cover them and these differences depend on the mindset and point of view of each gambler, but I think they have the wrong point of view about investing in gambling.

I have also stated several times that gambling is very different from investing because gambling is full of risk and uncertainty, after all in gambling the risk that occurs is losing all the money as whole.
This is clearly different from investment performance in general, investing is making profits with guaranteed security of assets for security rather than risking money and losing it all.
Some gamblers who have different and wrong views on investing in gambling must be able to change it. Investing in gambling can truly be said to be the perfect investment if you invest money in gambling site with an agreed profit sharing.

[Pumared]

To reach a level where betting/gambling is an investment, you need to be very good at it. It will be necessary to carry out a very good analysis of the situation, as well as the investments. That's why it's important to know a lot about the subject so that it becomes a true investment.

Gamblers who has become successful in gambling, they consider it as an investment but for those who are unsuccessful it is still a risky wager game. In investment we get assets but with gambling we got this fifty-fifty chances to get a positive shot. 😅

Nothing that good management of losses and gains does not make gambling a form of investment. Obviously the entire process until reaching this point will be quite long. But until then you can manage all profits and losses.

[moneystery]

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Gamblers who has become successful in gambling, they consider it as an investment but for those who are unsuccessful it is still a risky wager game. In investment we get assets but with gambling we got this fifty-fifty chances to get a positive shot. 😅

i don't think so, even though gamblers have been successful at gambling they don't consider it an investment but it's still gambling, because when they gamble they bet money and they can't be 100% sure that they will be able to win the gambling, since there are definitely people who smarter than them or luck is not on their side.

it can only be said to be an investment when a successful gambler invests their money on a casino platform and later they will get some of the profits from the shares they invested in it. that's just called investing in gambling because they get profits from the shares they hold, whether in the long or short term.

[ChiBitCTy]

I think you could consider gambling an investment if you know what you're doing to at least some extent.  If you have no idea what you're doing, I would probably classify it in the same realm as like buying a lotto ticket.  I'm not sure I would consider that investing.  I mean for me, betting on NFL games is really not all that much different than taking a gamble on individual stocks. 

[uneng]

I have lost a lot of money through high yield invest and I stopped trusting them, if you want to do this I will advise you should risk very little money, Ponzi is the worst of them all, because you won't know when they will pull the plugs.

Thankfully you have learned your lesson and won't put your money anymore on such schemes which only bring losses and pain to investors on long run. I wouldn't advise anyone to try these investments, even with low sums of money, because it might seduce them to deposit larger amounts of money later, as they make profit or as they keep losing, since they will want to chase losses. Ponzis and HYIPs are always unpredictable. Some investors believe it's possible to know when to enter and when to exit from a scheme, due to following HYIPs monitors websites online, but in fact, they aren't a guarantee for anything at all...

If such earnings method worked, they would be more popular on the internet, while what I see in fact is that their popularity has been decreasing since I started dealing with cryptocurrency. I don't see many ponzis and HYIPs being promoted right now, although years ago they were very frequent and popular, especially under the cloud mining business' flag.

[Lorence.xD]

To reach a level where betting/gambling is an investment, you need to be very good at it. It will be necessary to carry out a very good analysis of the situation, as well as the investments. That's why it's important to know a lot about the subject so that it becomes a true investment.

Gamblers who has become successful in gambling, they consider it as an investment but for those who are unsuccessful it is still a risky wager game. In investment we get assets but with gambling we got this fifty-fifty chances to get a positive shot. 😅

You have the numbers 50-50 already. Know the definition of gambling first and something won't be automatically an investment just because they are successful of it. Profit potential and presence of risk are not the only factors to consider to tell if an activity or a particular thing is an investment. Is the risk manageable? Will it have a higher market value in the future? Will it give you profit over time? These are somehow present with gambling however there would be no price chart or analysis that could increase the chance of earning profit in gambling. Odds of wining and losing are most of the time equal likewise with the numbers mentioned above.

I think you could consider gambling an investment if you know what you're doing to at least some extent.  If you have no idea what you're doing, I would probably classify it in the same realm as like buying a lotto ticket.  I'm not sure I would consider that investing.  I mean for me, betting on NFL games is really not all that much different than taking a gamble on individual stocks. 

Knowing what you are doing won't be enough. Perhaps with casino games, concepts are simple, will your chace of winning increase? I assure you that it won't. Gambling would only be an investment if you are paying a 'professional' to gamble for you and if there would be a projected profit along the way. In gambling, it happened that even those who won big time, are also losing in some instances; it could be days, weeks, or even for a month or more. That's the difference of gambling over other profitable activities.

[Barikui1]

Their is no comparison between them both, why would you compare investment to gambling? Gambling is what we do for fun and it's a game we try our luck using money as bait, that if you are right, you win something, and if you are wrong, you lose the money you use to stake, but investment is a long term project that always comes with a reward and dividend if invested rightly.

Secondly, comparing ponzi scheme to investment is really a stupid thing to say publicly, because you already know how Ponzi scheme operate, you know that what you are investing in is ponzi, and you still go ahead to put your money, to me that is really a stupid act that you should avoid by all cost.

[maydna]

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Of course, because the real meaning of investment is buying number of assets or shares and saving them for the long term to let the assets or shares work by themselves to have higher value, this is way to generate profits and is often called letting money work to produce money.
But in gambling, some people consider investment in different way, there are those who consider gambling to be good investment because they are risking money, there are also those who consider investing by giving money to other people to bet and can get share of the winnings.
Assumptions and points of view regarding investment in gambling have many things that cover them and these differences depend on the mindset and point of view of each gambler, but I think they have the wrong point of view about investing in gambling.

I have also stated several times that gambling is very different from investing because gambling is full of risk and uncertainty, after all in gambling the risk that occurs is losing all the money as whole.
This is clearly different from investment performance in general, investing is making profits with guaranteed security of assets for security rather than risking money and losing it all.
Some gamblers who have different and wrong views on investing in gambling must be able to change it. Investing in gambling can truly be said to be the perfect investment if you invest money in gambling site with an agreed profit sharing.

That's how investment works, so it's different from gambling, and people who gamble are not investing but are gambling where they will experience losses more often than they win. In investing, people can get benefits if they choose their investment program or choose to invest in bitcoin so that they can get big profits from holding bitcoin for a certain time. But in gambling, once they lose, they have lost their money, and it is difficult to get the money back even if they deposit another amount of money. They may be able to invest in the casino by staking certain coins and getting a return. It is an investment because the funds they use to invest are not lost but instead are staked in the casino. And they can get profits after the investment time is over.

I used to invest in casinos using bitcoin and other coins, and that gave me additional returns because, at that time, I used quite a large amount, so my returns were also large. At that time, the price had not risen much, but after I sent it to my wallet and kept it for a while, there was a very high increase in the coins, so when I sold them, I managed to get a big profit. But if there are people who still say gambling is an investment, that's up to them because we can't change what they believe. But they should also be able to find out the truth because, after all, gambling is not an investment. And if there are still casinos that allow them to invest in their casino, they could use it to increase the number of coins.

[EarnOnVictor]

To reach a level where betting/gambling is an investment, you need to be very good at it. It will be necessary to carry out a very good analysis of the situation, as well as the investments. That's why it's important to know a lot about the subject so that it becomes a true investment.

Gamblers who has become successful in gambling, they consider it as an investment but for those who are unsuccessful it is still a risky wager game. In investment we get assets but with gambling we got this fifty-fifty chances to get a positive shot. 😅

Gambling is not an investment. That is what we need to know. Even though we use some money to gamble, we still risk losing all the money. When we start gambling, the chances of losing will become greater, but many gamblers don't realize this, so they experience even more losses. Meanwhile, if you choose the wrong investment, you also have the potential to lose your money, so if you want to invest, you have to really make sure the investment is safe and can provide profits. We must be able to find more information about the investment before we decide to join so that the good offers do not fool us.

I must say that I like to align with your view here and not that of the OP, investment shouldn't be pretended to be another thing or linked with Ponzi, no, an investment is an investment, and we should also be thorough in weighing the risks of our investments so that we are not even gambling or engaging in some risky deals but thinking that we are investing or relate them together as he did. The best thing in this regard is for the person to know the nature of what he is doing, the risk involved and our affinity for it, take the feasibility studies and know what is in for him through it if the risk is taken at all. By doing this, one will be able to conclude on the risk level and whether or not is worth it. If it is investing in Ponzi (which I will never support) as the OP tells of it, it could be nice, but the risk in his own approach is too much, think it through very well. If care is not taken, such will lose so much money and that will be a tonne of regret for him.

[BenCodie]

do consider in investing in the bankroll of the casino. but even on this investment route, you can't also assure you will get your positive share, especially if the casino itself is just barely surviving. and besides, very rare that you can find a casino offering to invest on their vault to get certain profits. i've seen that before in several casinos, but in today's setting, you are lucky to find one casino having such service.

No one should consider this either. Not only are you investing in the exploitation of fellow man's weakness of greed, though you are losing a serious risk to your capital. There have been several exit scams from externally funded casino bankrolls. The result? 100% loss and there is most likely nothing that you can do about it.

Everyone should remember that a lot of these casinos have licenses that are held by people who probably have no correlation with the casino. When the casino pays for their license, do you think that they go into an office and complete formal paperwork in Curacao? No, they sure don't. They pay top dollars for the license, they get their license from the provider. What's in between likely has nothing to do with the identity of the operator. Liability = next to none.

I'm not condoning playing with scams like the OP is asking about. I wouldn't condone investing in a casino either.

[TheUltraElite]

From what I could make out from the OP's post, they invested in a ponzi scheme and made some profit.

This is definitely possible, if done in the initial days of starting of the ponzi scheme the new investors are used to pay the old investors, eventually the flux of new investors reduces and the last few investors are left with no returns while the oldest investors are having their pockets full - dont forget that the maximally old investor is the owner of the site.

However this is one type of gambling and is a high risk gamble. Newbies should not try it and I never recommend it to anyone.

[zuzie]

To reach a level where betting/gambling is an investment, you need to be very good at it. It will be necessary to carry out a very good analysis of the situation, as well as the investments. That's why it's important to know a lot about the subject so that it becomes a true investment.

Gamblers who has become successful in gambling, they consider it as an investment but for those who are unsuccessful it is still a risky wager game. In investment we get assets but with gambling we got this fifty-fifty chances to get a positive shot. 😅

Gambling is not an investment. That is what we need to know. Even though we use some money to gamble, we still risk losing all the money. When we start gambling, the chances of losing will become greater, but many gamblers don't realize this, so they experience even more losses. Meanwhile, if you choose the wrong investment, you also have the potential to lose your money, so if you want to invest, you have to really make sure the investment is safe and can provide profits. We must be able to find more information about the investment before we decide to join so that the good offers do not fool us.

Agree with you, gambling is not a place to invest well, it is a place to throw away money easily and quickly without any restrictions or rules and losing money happens more often than winning.
Agree, if we want to invest we have to be careful and careful first with the platform we are going to use to invest, because currently there are a lot of frauds regarding investment or fake investments among the general public, it's easy for them to cheat and cheat. . community using various methods that have been prepared. well and neatly. If people are not sensitive and careful, it is easy for them to get involved in fraudulent investments.

[junder]

To reach a level where betting/gambling is an investment, you need to be very good at it. It will be necessary to carry out a very good analysis of the situation, as well as the investments. That's why it's important to know a lot about the subject so that it becomes a true investment.

Gamblers who has become successful in gambling, they consider it as an investment but for those who are unsuccessful it is still a risky wager game. In investment we get assets but with gambling we got this fifty-fifty chances to get a positive shot. 😅

Gambling is not an investment. That is what we need to know. Even though we use some money to gamble, we still risk losing all the money. When we start gambling, the chances of losing will become greater, but many gamblers don't realize this, so they experience even more losses. Meanwhile, if you choose the wrong investment, you also have the potential to lose your money, so if you want to invest, you have to really make sure the investment is safe and can provide profits. We must be able to find more information about the investment before we decide to join so that the good offers do not fool us.

I agree with you, gambling is not an investment, because as far as I know, investment is an activity of investing capital, directly or indirectly with the hope that in the future the owner of the capital will obtain certain profits from the results of his investment, although it is almost the same as gambling, but this is It's different, in my opinion, gambling itself is a paid game that has the potential to be profitable if you are lucky, but what is clear is that as you say, the possibility of losing is large or making a loss.

Yes, that's true, investments also have the potential to be detrimental, but this can be minimized with the knowledge or knowledge you have. In order to invest, of course we have to be smart in choosing investments that are truly promising, because currently, in my opinion, many investments are fake or deceptive. With that fact, we must be able to see that investment cannot be done carelessly, of course it must be done carefully too.

[harapan]

I don't believe you are playing around with Ponzi scheme gambling sites. Such sites are created to deceive. those who do get little benefit from what they have deposited, and site managers may hope that gamblers who see an opportunity will make larger deposits.
the first thing they get is the way you feel. they can withdraw daily for a certain amount but when they start to think if they put in more money they can withdraw more money. this is really not good.

Definitely,ponzi schemes are big time decievers.why will one put interest in such
By the way you can't make gambling an investment or gambling is not an investment.yes we all know what investment is like but not in Gambling,when one invest you tend to nurture your deposit or rather grooming your money to be bigger and again we know that there may be unforseen circumstances as pertaining investing but not associating it with gambling because you may see no results.
You just spend,stake and stake and at the end you loose.

But if OP thinks he can invest in gambling I think he's being scammed really Good and it's doing so with this ponzi schemes sites.
Which will be of no betterment.

[danherbias07]

I think you could consider gambling an investment if you know what you're doing to at least some extent.  If you have no idea what you're doing, I would probably classify it in the same realm as like buying a lotto ticket.  I'm not sure I would consider that investing.  I mean for me, betting on NFL games is really not all that much different than taking a gamble on individual stocks. 

Truly sports betting is a different method when it comes to gambling. The chances of us winning the bet are way higher than it is with casino games. That's why I always think that I am better off just putting higher bets in sports than putting small amounts in casino games while waiting for a high multiplier that seems to be nowhere to be found.
Like a week ago, I tried achieving the x1000 in Plinko in small bets and as I checked my graph and statistics, I am already at 30k times of bets, and yet no Plinko ball dropped on that area of x1000. Heck even the one before it x170 if I was right, was very rare to hit. This just tells how difficult it is to win against the house. So, it's better to just keep on playing in sports betting than there because it could be a waste of money in casinos while we can put all those in a 50-50 chance in sports.
Anyway, it may not be an investment but once we put together all of it, we may have accumulated good money, and the good part is we enjoy watching sports games that we prefer while our money is on the line.

[Taskford]

To reach a level where betting/gambling is an investment, you need to be very good at it. It will be necessary to carry out a very good analysis of the situation, as well as the investments. That's why it's important to know a lot about the subject so that it becomes a true investment.

Gamblers who has become successful in gambling, they consider it as an investment but for those who are unsuccessful it is still a risky wager game. In investment we get assets but with gambling we got this fifty-fifty chances to get a positive shot. 😅

Gambling is not an investment. That is what we need to know. Even though we use some money to gamble, we still risk losing all the money. When we start gambling, the chances of losing will become greater, but many gamblers don't realize this, so they experience even more losses. Meanwhile, if you choose the wrong investment, you also have the potential to lose your money, so if you want to invest, you have to really make sure the investment is safe and can provide profits. We must be able to find more information about the investment before we decide to join so that the good offers do not fool us.

I agree with you, gambling is not an investment, because as far as I know, investment is an activity of investing capital, directly or indirectly with the hope that in the future the owner of the capital will obtain certain profits from the results of his investment, although it is almost the same as gambling, but this is It's different, in my opinion, gambling itself is a paid game that has the potential to be profitable if you are lucky, but what is clear is that as you say, the possibility of losing is large or making a loss.

Yes, that's true, investments also have the potential to be detrimental, but this can be minimized with the knowledge or knowledge you have. In order to invest, of course we have to be smart in choosing investments that are truly promising, because currently, in my opinion, many investments are fake or deceptive. With that fact, we must be able to see that investment cannot be done carelessly, of course it must be done carefully too.

If you are playing then its not really an investment since there's nothing to get there if you are aiming t o get a passive profit from this platform. But if the casino offer a investment and earn some percentage with them then that's how you can earn thru investment with them and there are several casino before offering that but now they stop since maybe they don't want to encounter huge issue.

This thread compiled the list of crypto casino offering this investment before  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247587.0 if someone curious to know about this, but I don't know if this is a completed list but people doesn't know about this could check the thread.

[maydna]

I must say that I like to align with your view here and not that of the OP, investment shouldn't be pretended to be another thing or linked with Ponzi, no, an investment is an investment, and we should also be thorough in weighing the risks of our investments so that we are not even gambling or engaging in some risky deals but thinking that we are investing or relate them together as he did. The best thing in this regard is for the person to know the nature of what he is doing, the risk involved and our affinity for it, take the feasibility studies and know what is in for him through it if the risk is taken at all. By doing this, one will be able to conclude on the risk level and whether or not is worth it. If it is investing in Ponzi (which I will never support) as the OP tells of it, it could be nice, but the risk in his own approach is too much, think it through very well. If care is not taken, such will lose so much money and that will be a tonne of regret for him.

You are right on this. Most Ponzi schemes are associated with investments, and even many people who think it is an investment will end up saying that it is a Ponzi. Those who say that Ponzi has experienced fraud from the person who created the site because they were tempted by the profits they could get from the site. They don't look for what real investment is and think that such programs are investments. Even though those who have bought bitcoin should be able to hold onto their bitcoin tightly because investing in bitcoin is an investment that can provide benefits compared to if they sent their bitcoin to that site, those who want to join investment must be able to learn everything first and don't rush to join, let alone immediately deposit some money. Likewise, if they want to invest in gambling, they can stake the coins offered at the casino.

Agree with you, gambling is not a place to invest well, it is a place to throw away money easily and quickly without any restrictions or rules and losing money happens more often than winning.
Agree, if we want to invest we have to be careful and careful first with the platform we are going to use to invest, because currently there are a lot of frauds regarding investment or fake investments among the general public, it's easy for them to cheat and cheat. . community using various methods that have been prepared. well and neatly. If people are not sensitive and careful, it is easy for them to get involved in fraudulent investments.

Hopefully, people can learn about investments first before they decide to join the investment program. Moreover, nowadays, many unclear investment programs can make them. They don't need to decide quickly but have to research the investment program because this concerns the money they will use to invest. If they have found that the investment program is correct, they don't need to immediately use big money to start investing but start with small money. Don't be easily tempted or attracted by advertisements that offer profits quickly because whatever the investment, it will take time. And if they already know Bitcoin, it's better for them to invest in Bitcoin and not send their Bitcoin to other places.

I agree with you, gambling is not an investment, because as far as I know, investment is an activity of investing capital, directly or indirectly with the hope that in the future the owner of the capital will obtain certain profits from the results of his investment, although it is almost the same as gambling, but this is It's different, in my opinion, gambling itself is a paid game that has the potential to be profitable if you are lucky, but what is clear is that as you say, the possibility of losing is large or making a loss.

Yes, that's true, investments also have the potential to be detrimental, but this can be minimized with the knowledge or knowledge you have. In order to invest, of course we have to be smart in choosing investments that are truly promising, because currently, in my opinion, many investments are fake or deceptive. With that fact, we must be able to see that investment cannot be done carelessly, of course it must be done carefully too.

Gambling is an activity that uses money, like watching a film at the cinema or going to an entertainment venue that requires us to pay for an entrance ticket. But we can win from gambling, and it is not an investment because the investment must be saved for a certain time, and we only need to wait for the time to finish before we can get the profit. But most investment programs like that will only end in fraud, especially as many have experienced this. So be careful if you want to join an investment program like that, and make sure that the investment program is correct.

Many investment programs have ended up causing losses to their investors, such as when the site owner ran away with the investor's money without notice. This means that investors must be careful in choosing their investment program and not just be tempted by attractive offers from their investment program. By always being careful and researching the investment program, you can keep us away from fraud. And we also don't need to use a lot of money to start investing.

[Zoomic]

To reach a level where betting/gambling is an investment, you need to be very good at it. It will be necessary to carry out a very good analysis of the situation, as well as the investments. That's why it's important to know a lot about the subject so that it becomes a true investment.

Gamblers who has become successful in gambling, they consider it as an investment but for those who are unsuccessful it is still a risky wager game. In investment we get assets but with gambling we got this fifty-fifty chances to get a positive shot. 😅

Gambling is not an investment. That is what we need to know. Even though we use some money to gamble, we still risk losing all the money. When we start gambling, the chances of losing will become greater, but many gamblers don't realize this, so they experience even more losses. Meanwhile, if you choose the wrong investment, you also have the potential to lose your money, so if you want to invest, you have to really make sure the investment is safe and can provide profits. We must be able to find more information about the investment before we decide to join so that the good offers do not fool us.

I agree with you, gambling is not an investment, because as far as I know, investment is an activity of investing capital, directly or indirectly with the hope that in the future the owner of the capital will obtain certain profits from the results of his investment, although it is almost the same as gambling, but this is It's different, in my opinion, gambling itself is a paid game that has the potential to be profitable if you are lucky, but what is clear is that as you say, the possibility of losing is large or making a loss.

Yes, that's true, investments also have the potential to be detrimental, but this can be minimized with the knowledge or knowledge you have. In order to invest, of course we have to be smart in choosing investments that are truly promising, because currently, in my opinion, many investments are fake or deceptive. With that fact, we must be able to see that investment cannot be done carelessly, of course it must be done carefully too.

If you are playing then its not really an investment since there's nothing to get there if you are aiming t o get a passive profit from this platform. But if the casino offer a investment and earn some percentage with them then that's how you can earn thru investment with them and there are several casino before offering that but now they stop since maybe they don't want to encounter huge issue.

This thread compiled the list of crypto casino offering this investment before  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247587.0 if someone curious to know about this, but I don't know if this is a completed list but people doesn't know about this could check the thread.

Yea, gambling can never be an investment. In investment,  we often have a picture of a product or asset(whether physical or digital produc or asset) or service we tend to work on, promote and finance,  then expect returns immediately or in future.  Same cannot be said about gambling that involves mere making predictions and win if your predictions are accurate. There is no product to be sold, no service rendered and no business plan aside making accurate predictions.

A person who owns a casino or who has a share in a casino is an investor and not a gambler. At least, there's a degree of certainty in the project you are putting your money into. The fact we risk our money in a business we are not sure will will give us an expected return does not make it gambling.  So when comparing, we should know what exactly we are putting our money into, if there is no item or service of value involved,  then it cannot be investment .