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February 10, 2024, 01:31:13 PM
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I don't know about you but I prefer getting answers from real people instead chatbot.
AI generates many more conversations within a second not real conversations. You can check the passage AI generates, its atmosphere looks very worse or it can't express the real movement of real people.
About AIs generating conversations in seconds, I must say I agree with that. But I strongly disagree that their work can't look like real people's work. It only depends on the AI you are using, how you've set/trained it and how you are patient about the conversation you want it to achieve for you and how actually want this to be viewed.

The issue is that many who are using the AIs are lazy, they want the job done so fast, so they are not actually giving it time to perfect what they want. To be honest with you, some AIs will deliver some jobs to you and you can still proceed to edit it to make it more fitting. That's for those who want to at least add effort to what the AIs have done for them, but not the bunch of lazy chickens just wanting to spam.

That's because AI is still in the development stage but I'm sure in 5 years AI will be very powerful and maybe they will be able to judge which references are trustworthy and which are not. Maybe people's behavior will change from usually looking for information on Google search boards to AI boards. Google also performs searches in a fraction of seconds and the results are now very good, their algorithm is able to analyze which sites have good ratings and which do not, Google has a great algorithm in determining SERP

The next problem is, if we don't have special abilities then we will be finished off by AI. Honestly, I agree that AI is scarier than any technology ever created

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February 10, 2024, 02:08:16 PM
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Of course I know its foolish to use it direcly as if you are the one who created the text/thought but what about quoting?
Here is not a research institute, neither is it an educational institution that plagerism should be followed strictly. What theymos and other members of this forum wants from you is that you should try a way to show that the post doe not belong to you. Trying to pass another person's post as yours, especially when wearing a paid signature is considered cheating and punishable.

What do you guys think about Chat GPT? I'd love a Btalk Bot that has kind of like a chat GPT engine but geared direclty towards helping the users/ newbies with literally anything. Would love to see this THEYMOS! I wonder if this has been discussed? Huh
There are many of such developments outside, if anyone wants to know about BTC they can use random chat gpt. Developing one for this forum is a stepping stone to making the forum so artificial.

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February 11, 2024, 03:53:21 PM
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Maybe people's behavior will change from usually looking for information on Google search boards to AI boards. Google also performs searches in a fraction of seconds and the results are now very good, their algorithm is able to analyze which sites have good ratings and which do not, Google has a great algorithm in determining SERP

It works only when you are searching for something very common what many others search also. The same for AI: if there is many similar texts it will give what most popular. And when you search for something not so popular and what is accordant to something popular, sometimes you need to search a lot to find what you really need. So I don't expect AI to become good enough to stop making mistakes, and AI mistakes can be painful if to ask something important.

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February 11, 2024, 07:46:43 PM
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Maybe people's behavior will change from usually looking for information on Google search boards to AI boards.

I believe that is what will definitely happen in the nearest future. Google search requires some analysis and systematising of information, even the slightest. While AI bots offer ready-to-use answers. People are becoming easier and easier, they don't want to deal with information themselves. Everything is heading to the situation, when most of people would draw information not from open sources, but from where it is presented in the most simplified, ready-made form.

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February 11, 2024, 09:16:26 PM
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Maybe people's behavior will change from usually looking for information on Google search boards to AI boards. Google also performs searches in a fraction of seconds and the results are now very good, their algorithm is able to analyze which sites have good ratings and which do not, Google has a great algorithm in determining SERP

It works only when you are searching for something very common what many others search also. The same for AI: if there is many similar texts it will give what most popular. And when you search for something not so popular and what is accordant to something popular, sometimes you need to search a lot to find what you really need. So I don't expect AI to become good enough to stop making mistakes, and AI mistakes can be painful if to ask something important.

Have you ever found an accurate answer to diagnose a specific disease from a doctor? I don't think so, doctors still have to carry out examinations, research and analysis. So there is no instant accurate answer even if asked to humans or experts

However AI is like that, a few years ago Google's search engine was also very bad, but now it is very good, Google can almost find the most accurate answers on the internet. I suspect AI will also be the same, maybe one day AI will even be able to judge the answers themselves, such as providing statements about their own answers, answers that lack references, answers taken from unreliable sources, answers that have too many pros and cons, etc. I don't think it will take long, maybe 5 years is enough to make AI that sophisticated

However, no matter how sophisticated AI is, its position will be like Google, AI is only used to help humans. But you definitely know how much we depend on Google search for now, it is only a matter of time until we start depending on AI and public jobs will be replaced by AI. AI, robotics, sensory, will dominate many general routine work sectors replacing humans

Maybe one day books will be digitized and AI will be able to find answers from expert answers written in their books, carry out comparisons, analysis and arguments for its own judgments. Again, it's just a matter of time. However this is just an opinion in my head and I honestly hope what I predict is wrong, because that would be a real nightmare for humans.

Maybe people's behavior will change from usually looking for information on Google search boards to AI boards.

I believe that is what will definitely happen in the nearest future. Google search requires some analysis and systematising of information, even the slightest. While AI bots offer ready-to-use answers. People are becoming easier and easier, they don't want to deal with information themselves. Everything is heading to the situation, when most of people would draw information not from open sources, but from where it is presented in the most simplified, ready-made form.

Yeah, I think so

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February 11, 2024, 10:48:40 PM
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However AI is like that, a few years ago Google's search engine was also very bad, but now it is very good, Google can almost find the most accurate answers on the internet. I suspect AI will also be the same, maybe one day AI will even be able to judge the answers themselves, such as providing statements about their own answers, answers that lack references, answers taken from unreliable sources, answers that have too many pros and cons, etc. I don't think it will take long, maybe 5 years is enough to make AI that sophisticated

However, no matter how sophisticated AI is, its position will be like Google, AI is only used to help humans. But you definitely know how much we depend on Google search for now, it is only a matter of time until we start depending on AI and public jobs will be replaced by AI. AI, robotics, sensory, will dominate many general routine work sectors replacing humans
There are two things that are different - Google Search only recommends you links to find the answer to the question you are looking for, but AI gives you the answer directly because they summarize it for you. Of course - AI is a technological product that helps with many things, but AI will not take over everything that is needed on the Internet and you will still have to do a lot of further research for more accurate information.

AI can replace humans in certain jobs - but it won't solve all problems without human intervention. We may think that AI can help you with everything you want - but AI could possibly harm the systems that have been built in such a way. AI can solve some problems - but not all problems and AI cannot completely replace humans for anything without human intervention.

Maybe one day books will be digitized and AI will be able to find answers from expert answers written in their books, carry out comparisons, analysis and arguments for its own judgments. Again, it's just a matter of time. However this is just an opinion in my head and I honestly hope what I predict is wrong, because that would be a real nightmare for humans.
I just want the government to ban it and this should not be misused. AI is a technology that can be dangerous if used incorrectly - its use must be limited so that humans can still use their brains.

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February 11, 2024, 11:28:36 PM
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However AI is like that, a few years ago Google's search engine was also very bad, but now it is very good, Google can almost find the most accurate answers on the internet. I suspect AI will also be the same, maybe one day AI will even be able to judge the answers themselves, such as providing statements about their own answers, answers that lack references, answers taken from unreliable sources, answers that have too many pros and cons, etc. I don't think it will take long, maybe 5 years is enough to make AI that sophisticated

However, no matter how sophisticated AI is, its position will be like Google, AI is only used to help humans. But you definitely know how much we depend on Google search for now, it is only a matter of time until we start depending on AI and public jobs will be replaced by AI. AI, robotics, sensory, will dominate many general routine work sectors replacing humans
There are two things that are different - Google Search only recommends you links to find the answer to the question you are looking for, but AI gives you the answer directly because they summarize it for you. Of course - AI is a technological product that helps with many things, but AI will not take over everything that is needed on the Internet and you will still have to do a lot of further research for more accurate information.

AI can replace humans in certain jobs - but it won't solve all problems without human intervention. We may think that AI can help you with everything you want - but AI could possibly harm the systems that have been built in such a way. AI can solve some problems - but not all problems and AI cannot completely replace humans for anything without human intervention.

Yeah bro, agree. Humans are the most complex thing on earth, millions of books have been written to describe humans from the physical to the mental side, starting from life needs, economics, psychology, mental health, self-resilience, reasoning, health, etc. However, there has not been a single book that has been able to describe humans completely and accurately

Google search recommends millions of pages (answers) and AI recommends answers (analysis of millions of pages). Both answers are recommendations and the final decision is in our own hands.

The difference is that AI can learn on its own, the better the reference, the better the answer, combined with algorithms, robot systems and sensors, very sophisticated technology will be created. I agree with you that AI will never completely replace humans, but many humans will be replaced by AI, especially routine and common jobs. It will be worse than the google search era which has made us so dependent on it

Maybe one day books will be digitized and AI will be able to find answers from expert answers written in their books, carry out comparisons, analysis and arguments for its own judgments. Again, it's just a matter of time. However this is just an opinion in my head and I honestly hope what I predict is wrong, because that would be a real nightmare for humans.
I just want the government to ban it and this should not be misused. AI is a technology that can be dangerous if used incorrectly - its use must be limited so that humans can still use their brains.

Yes, I totally agree. Hopefully one day AI will be deemed illegal everywhere before it's too late

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The difference is that AI can learn on its own, the better the reference, the better the answer, combined with algorithms, robot systems and sensors, very sophisticated technology will be created.

There are some obvious things like that the Sun revolves around the Earth, and if there will be enough texts with this statement how will AI find out that this info is outdated? Next it can find that another popular idea is that the Earth revolves around the Sun, and how AI can know that this answer is incorrect also? All those bots are learning on provided by human beings information and it compares what is most mentioned, probably in some authoritative sources, but info can be not totally accurate or out of date and relying on that AI will evaluate all that correctly is IMO too thoughtlessly.

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February 13, 2024, 04:32:01 AM
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The difference is that AI can learn on its own, the better the reference, the better the answer, combined with algorithms, robot systems and sensors, very sophisticated technology will be created.

There are some obvious things like that the Sun revolves around the Earth, and if there will be enough texts with this statement how will AI find out that this info is outdated? Next it can find that another popular idea is that the Earth revolves around the Sun, and how AI can know that this answer is incorrect also? All those bots are learning on provided by human beings information and it compares what is most mentioned, probably in some authoritative sources, but info can be not totally accurate or out of date and relying on that AI will evaluate all that correctly is IMO too thoughtlessly.

Yeah, Of course, no matter how advanced AI is, it will never be accurate. One of the most dangerous is if everyone relies on AI and there are certain groups who deliberately manipulate news or writing on the internet, that is clearly a massive mistake. Especially if people forget that AI is an aid and we need to validate it

To be honest, I only tried ChatGPT occasionally and immediately didn't like it because it would ruin my frame of mind and make me lazy to look for references to compare things.

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Yeah, Of course, no matter how advanced AI is, it will never be accurate. One of the most dangerous is if everyone relies on AI and there are certain groups who deliberately manipulate news or writing on the internet, that is clearly a massive mistake. Especially if people forget that AI is an aid and we need to validate it

Not everyone but many. I saw so many times when a calculator was used as the proof for result of some mathematical operation. If it is about 1+1 it usually can be okay, but some say that if to divide a number by another number over many iterations you'll get a zero az a result. Because a calculator gvives that answer... If most AI answers will be more or less correct, all his answers will become authoritative and it is the problem. Like nowadays some use Wikipedia as authoritative source, but Wikipedia itself doesn't consider itself as authoritative source because each and every can edit it...

Relying on AI is a threat. Undecided

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Well, if using Chat GPT and any form of AI will result in forum members receiving just a neutral tag (if that), then we literally have no deterrent against account farmers. A recent case where a signature spammer who either uses AI or pays someone else to post on his behalf received a negative tag from me but the majority consensus was it should have been a neutral tag.

I think AI will play a bigger role in the near future when account farmers start using it more and more in order to meet their quotas for signature campaigns and with that they quality of post content will fall even further. Even reporting posts and poster does not really have any effect as most of the spammers and super-spammers are enrolled on the Stake signature campaign and their campaign manager seems to hiring many with (negative and) neutral tags for spamming or being alt-accounts.

They are fighting serious to eliminate the use of Chat-gpt because they wanted everyone or anyone posting here to share their real knowledge instead of using this tools over here and, there are several people that has been reported for using GPT to post here. Naturally while posting you can indicate in your post just Rikafip said there will be no penalty for that, but you must know that the forum doesn't encourage anyone to use that over here, even to search a question from google and copy to post here is highly frown upon the poster and hence might received a tag for that so whatever you are post that doesn't comes from you directly then you must provides a source link to such post.

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February 17, 2024, 12:50:33 PM
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Yeah, Of course, no matter how advanced AI is, it will never be accurate. One of the most dangerous is if everyone relies on AI and there are certain groups who deliberately manipulate news or writing on the internet, that is clearly a massive mistake. Especially if people forget that AI is an aid and we need to validate it

Not everyone but many. I saw so many times when a calculator was used as the proof for result of some mathematical operation. If it is about 1+1 it usually can be okay, but some say that if to divide a number by another number over many iterations you'll get a zero az a result. Because a calculator gvives that answer... If most AI answers will be more or less correct, all his answers will become authoritative and it is the problem. Like nowadays some use Wikipedia as authoritative source, but Wikipedia itself doesn't consider itself as authoritative source because each and every can edit it...

Relying on AI is a threat. Undecided

Sorry, looks like I missed your reply and just realized it

I really like your statement about Wikipedia, and most people have considered Wikipedia to be the most complete digital library and considered the most valid source, even though in reality there is no such guarantee. Maybe for general knowledge Wikipedia has valid information but for specific knowledge there are usually only a few valid references. And anyone can edit articles on Wikipedia, I remember in the past I often edited Wikipedia to insert backlinks in it because Wikipedia has a high DA PA  Cheesy

And if conditions like that happen to AI (it is very likely to happen in the future) then it is very dangerous, mass errors could occur because the source of the information is wrong and the information is taken by the AI ​​as the answer.

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February 17, 2024, 06:13:36 PM
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I know that there are probably rules, somewhere that I haven't looked. In general I feel like noboby has really posted Rules to Chat GPT. Of course I know its foolish to use it direcly as if you are the one who created the text/thought but what about quoting? And What about as a research tool? Chat GPT really helps to you skip the learning curve if you know how to use it correctly. It has helped me loads with simply understanding complex thought that I didn't undertand. I just made a post quoting Chat GPT and I don't even know if that was following the rules. If we can't avoid it which we definitely can't, that means that Chat GPT is veriy similar to BTC in this aspect lol. What do you guys think about Chat GPT? I'd love a Btalk Bot that has kind of like a chat GPT engine but geared direclty towards helping the users/ newbies with literally anything. Would love to see this THEYMOS! I wonder if this has been discussed? Huh
Well honestly I really try to understand where exactly you are coming from but I seem not to get your concept full but then I will comment with regard to your topic, the use of chatgpt is almost same as the use of AI and on the forum here are a few guidelines to use it if it becomes a most you use it, one of the situations that permits you use an AI to make Post and create contribution is the use of it to structure your sentence but not to copy and paste everything that was gotten from the AI boot, if it helps to reconstruct your words or sentence then it could be permitted to post that so your English will be well understood by everyone who reads your post.

Using Ideas gotten from the AI boot isn't allowed a sits seen as plagiarism and is punishable , there are threads in beginners and help where you can find more details about the use of AI generated content on the forum..

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