Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial

[franky1]

the Dr bitcoin podcast had an update, celebrating on mic with a british cider
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVNca4UW9Og

added comedy
more stupidity in the BSV cult (from ayres after the judgement)

cool.  Now Craig is not Satoshi in law.  He is still the worlds formost expert in Enterprise Blockchain.

I know he is Satoshi...but that is moot.

I know more about Enterprise blockchain than all crypto wankers combined and I learnt it all from Craig. They can steal his legacy, but they can not steal his presence.

look Craigs invention will go on..this is only a problem for Craig and i feel for him.

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[Kakmakr]

I know the final verdict has not been done yet, but I wonder if CW will be given the opportunity to take this on appeal to a higher court... and simply dragging this out for years?

Can someone with some legal knowledge sketch a possible roadmap for a case like this and what options could be followed?

My guess is, CW will go on until the money runs out..  and that might take years with the support he is getting.

[franky1]

CSW can request an appeal, but the appeal judge can look at the request and see if there is any actual real value evidence that can put into question the verdict, to be worth actually going to an appeal case to be seen in court..

appeals dont just happen where a request results in new court room drama, appeals can be denied if there is nothing worthy(no new compelling evidence)
especially with the forgeries, he would have to provide something really substantial, just to even get an appeal to go ahead before even getting into an appeals court

in short he has to show something compelling for it to move to a ongoing appeal case.
i feel he has drained all avenues and cant provide any real evidence worthy of an appeal

[blckhawk]

CSW can request an appeal, but the appeal judge can look at the request and see if there is any actual real value evidence that can put into question the verdict, to be worth actually going to an appeal case to be seen in court..

appeals dont just happen where a request results in new court room drama, appeals can be denied if there is nothing worthy(no new compelling evidence)
especially with the forgeries, he would have to provide something really substantial, just to even get an appeal to go ahead before even getting into an appeals court

in short he has to show something compelling for it to move to a ongoing appeal case.
i feel he has drained all avenues and cant provide any real evidence worthy of an appeal

The only reason that I can think of that a judge could allow the appeal is so they can do their friend a favor and get paid more with this easy trial or as you've mentioned a new compelling evidences but at this point, I don't think that even if CSW turned the whole world upside down, scouring the earth for a new evidence to prove that he's Satoshi, I don't think that that kind of evidence would show, I guess it's really hard to admit defeat when you're a charlatan and you're so deep in your lies that even being honest isn't going to set you free.

[FatFork]

Not that anyone in their right mind ever believed that CW was actually Satoshi, but this whole lawsuit saga has been such a drag, just sucking up time and money for no good reason.  Wright's got a long track record of fibbing about Bitcoin, so glad the judge saw the truth at least, even if Wright won't own up to his lies.

So yeah, hopefully were done with this sideshow.  No more pointless courtroom episodes.  Bitcoin has better things to do than deal with posers pretending to be Satoshi for attention.

[cryptosize]

I've been saying it for a long time that CSW is a narcissist.

Narcissism should be declared a crime:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

[NotATether]

You must be joking !  I have restrained myself with great effort.  I thought of attending the court but I chose not to attend the court.  If I did attend the court then the whole fun would have come to an end abruptly and Craig  Wright could have blamed me because he has lost the case.  But somehow I did my best not to interfere directly but I might bring Craig Wright to High Court back again for something else. Once the water goes in his nose and if he wakes up and repents then I will forgive his sin and reward him with a great surprise of credentials of a great actor.

Ok, so now that it's clear to everyone age 7+ that you are just a troll (and also not Satoshi Nakamoto), I am going to put you on ignore.

Cheers!

[JayJuanGee]

I know the final verdict has not been done yet, but I wonder if CW will be given the opportunity to take this on appeal to a higher court... and simply dragging this out for years?

Can someone with some legal knowledge sketch a possible roadmap for a case like this and what options could be followed?

My guess is, CW will go on until the money runs out..  and that might take years with the support he is getting.

Even though CSW has not yet been convicted of fraud, it seems pretty crazy to continue to represent someone in which the evidence is more and more clear that various kind of frauds have been carried out.  Yeah, they likely want to milk various aspects of the businesses if there is anything left to salvage in terms of pattens or abilities to milk the BSV system to the extent that there are still suckers paying them by buying that crap.  There are a lot of outstanding cases that are either going to be directly or indirectly affected by this ruling.. the value of the patents are likely going to go down too.. to the extent any of the patents have any value.. my understanding is that a lot of the NChain patents are stupid, and they cost money to keep them active. and money to defend them, if they actually find cases in which they might be able to try to coerce innocent folks/businesses to pay them to license if there might be some overlapping arguable infringements (rather than just the appearance of infringement).

It surely would be nice for a criminal case to be started against CSW, even before the written judgement is issued, and of course, if no criminal case has yet been filed, it cannot be counted on to be coming - even though it is likely well overdue.

Not that anyone in their right mind ever believed that CW was actually Satoshi, but this whole lawsuit saga has been such a drag, just sucking up time and money for no good reason.  Wright's got a long track record of fibbing about Bitcoin, so glad the judge saw the truth at least, even if Wright won't own up to his lies.

So yeah, hopefully were done with this sideshow.  No more pointless courtroom episodes.  Bitcoin has better things to do than deal with posers pretending to be Satoshi for attention.

CSW's behavior likely stifled developer's open involvement in BTC, and yeah maybe there are some advantages in some of them going anonymous, yet I would think that some free speech and public participation has been stifled, and there seems to be value in some of the transparency and public exchange of information that likely had been negatively affected by CSW et als threats of legal suits.

[franky1]

adding on to the comedy tweets.. turns out calvin has left BSV and handed his twitter to BSV twits(twats and twonks)

Calvin Ayre
@CalvinAyre
Good bye everyone.  This is my last post before I take off on an adventure I have been planning for the last year. I have now handed this account over to a team that will work with the BSV Blockchain Association, London Blockchain conference and other organizations dedicated to educating on how Enterprise Blockchain brings together and completes AI, IoTs, Web 3 and other areas of Big Data.   I am proud of what I have done to save such an amazing piece of technology and look forward to watching it continue to grow.

other funny tweets
Tnguyen has been a CSW puppet since 2013 helping with CSw scams.. but says BSV has been true bitcoin from 2009
yet his twitter handle says

T Nguyen
@chithanh2013
Bitcoin SV since 2018

He has already advised Craig Wright to get ready to appeal.  Now the question is if whether the court and judges will accept his appeal or not.  I am not just journalist,  I two degrees in Law from best University.  What,  frank1 has said is correct and I would like to add something to it.  Craig is not Craizy but a very smart computer Hackers and computer security expert.  

CSW is not smart computer hacker and nor computer security expert.
he employs people to do the work and then takes credit for other peoples work
he used ghost writers to write all university stuff
he employed system admins to seek out business in his old scams of offering sys admin services
he cuts and runs when being asked to perform actual work and then blames those he employed when it goes wrong

he has the "street smarts" of being a con-artist, knowing how to use people. but when it comes to law/IT/workplace skills.. he is dumb

he does not understand computer code.. the unsigned integer is one example, the other is not knowing there difference between a database vs ledger, the third is thinking the format of a blockheader is a database

[NotATether]

adding on to the comedy tweets.. turns out calvin has left BSV and handed his twitter to BSV twits(twats and twonks)

Calvin Ayre
@CalvinAyre
Good bye everyone.  This is my last post before I take off on an adventure I have been planning for the last year. I have now handed this account over to a team that will work with the BSV Blockchain Association, London Blockchain conference and other organizations dedicated to educating on how Enterprise Blockchain brings together and completes AI, IoTs, Web 3 and other areas of Big Data.   I am proud of what I have done to save such an amazing piece of technology and look forward to watching it continue to grow.

Good. Now let's watch the entire BSV community implode and BSV going down by 90%.

[cryptosize]

adding on to the comedy tweets.. turns out calvin has left BSV and handed his twitter to BSV twits(twats and twonks)

Calvin Ayre
@CalvinAyre
Good bye everyone.  This is my last post before I take off on an adventure I have been planning for the last year. I have now handed this account over to a team that will work with the BSV Blockchain Association, London Blockchain conference and other organizations dedicated to educating on how Enterprise Blockchain brings together and completes AI, IoTs, Web 3 and other areas of Big Data.   I am proud of what I have done to save such an amazing piece of technology and look forward to watching it continue to grow.

Good. Now let's watch the entire BSV community implode and BSV going down by 90%.

https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-price-will-crash-to-zero-says-bitcoin-cash-founder-calvin-ayre/

This didn't age well...

[franky1]

BSV market 26% loss since judge announcement
many people jumping ship.. but leaving in a ass kiss way to avoid CSW retribution

[nutildah]

adding on to the comedy tweets.. turns out calvin has left BSV and handed his twitter to BSV twits(twats and twonks)

Calvin Ayre
@CalvinAyre
Good bye everyone.  This is my last post before I take off on an adventure I have been planning for the last year. I have now handed this account over to a team that will work with the BSV Blockchain Association, London Blockchain conference and other organizations dedicated to educating on how Enterprise Blockchain brings together and completes AI, IoTs, Web 3 and other areas of Big Data.   I am proud of what I have done to save such an amazing piece of technology and look forward to watching it continue to grow.

Good. Now let's watch the entire BSV community implode and BSV going down by 90%.

Down 7% today, down 26% in the last week. That's a great start. I expect BSV to retrace back down into the $30s or $40s before the end of the month.

Good bye Calvin. Good riddance, you slimy pedo fuck. Thanks for fucking with my life to the point where it still affects my online reputation today. I hope you lost billions, and lose billions more.

There's a special place in hell for this type of man, if you can even call him that. Won't post any pics or additional commentary (most of us have seen them and know about it) -- but its how I know this man belongs in jail right now. With any luck he does the right thing and pulls a McAfee, to stop causing any more damage to humanity than he already has.

[franky1]

there is no need for a candidate for S.N
even you(bitcoinmoses/leezhamiliton) are not doing any benefit with your nonsense games either.. there is no need for it.

your wasting your time and our time .. these nonsense games are not required.
use your time to actually learn bitcoin instead of being a twit

as for the CSW quote of not going on mainstream news again.. its simple.. he doesnt get paid to be in the news. however being asked questions on the news is like him giving away his narrative/story for free but he promised his story to be documented and released to production/publishing companies at a cost to repaid the sponsors he scammed/partnered with.. so he said that to comfort his sponsors that his narrative/story had value which he hoped would entice a bidding war to get him to speak
so far no one wants to give him movie deals. which is a good thing. lets hope movie producers want to pay the COPA side for their side of the story
(rational/factual side)

CSW is only doing paid book/convention/speaking tours, for hustle money.. trying to stay famous/relevant but not for free
its all about the money for him.

you too have been noticed by many people of playing these same silly games of you pretending you have bad some involvement with the early adopters, you pretending to have had some involvement with early devs. you trying to fame yourself up and then saying you will write a book about things you know/people you know/things that you pretend to be
you are wasting your time

you will have more success learning bitcoin and using bitcoin.. not abusing it, using it. by this i mean investing in bitcoin and riding through the market cycles.. i dont mean fabricating social narratives to ride the fame train

[hilariousetc]

The Dr Bitcoin Podcast did an update for Part 6 which you can watch on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ieqSOUCaBM

They covered some of the things that have been going on since the trial ended. The judges written verdict should be available by Monday the 29th.

Another piece of Craig's fraudulence committed during the trail was recently discovered:






He really can't help himself.

[franky1]

lets all make a guess
CSW suddenly thinking about fashion.. hmm i guess he will probably want to sell custom printed shirts/hoodies as Merch for his fans to try to earn £7m

anyways
anyone know if he paid £1m (total £7m) to the courts by previous tuesday to avoid having his business accounts frozen.

[hilariousetc]

lets all make a guess
CSW suddenly thinking about fashion.. hmm i guess he will probably want to sell custom printed shirts/hoodies as Merch for his fans to try to earn £7m

Yeah, pretty bizarre topic to post some random shit about. How he thinks he's gonna get away with this stuff when there's an army of people trawling over everything he does looking for dirt is beyond me. He really is a fool.

anyways
anyone know if he paid £1m (total £7m) to the courts by previous tuesday to avoid having his business accounts frozen.

Yes he did. I believe he paid the 1 million and then Calvin Ayre bailed him out for the rest. Craig had his assets seized by the judge so he probably couldn't have paid it even if he had the money.

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/03/29/uk-judge-freezes-craig-wright-assets-to-prevent-him-evading-court-costs/

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/bitcoin-high-court-london-b1151135.html

Mr Justice Mellor granted the order to the value of £1.089 million, meaning Dr Wright cannot sell or reduce the value of his financial assets up to that figure.

But the judge said that Dr Wright could pay the money to the court by 4pm on Tuesday, which would allow him to avoid sharing details of his assets.

Dr Wright did not attend court, with a further hearing scheduled for April 26.

It follows Copa taking out a similar order against the computer scientist on March 27 to the value of £6 million.

Dr Wright has since paid the sum, which will be held by the court, although Mr Justice Mellor said on Friday that it was “clear” that this money had come from a third party.

[franky1]

i beleive the first order for the £6m was paid by third party(mcgregor/mathews*) as it affected their business partnerships with CSW
*https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5490774.msg63940457#msg63940457 bottom right paragraph of the prelude snippet
involving the BVS businesses all wrapped up as a package owned by mathews/mcgregor

as for the second order for the £1m i havnt done any research this month on if thats another business as part of the CSW/mathews/mcgregor. or CSW/ayres or just CSW

i thought that ayres already departed and left his avatars and social media profiles with a BSV PR team to manage, where ayres previously suggested no longer funding CSW

so thats why i was asking about if the £1m (second order) got paid up. oh well we should hear more next week

(currently listening to the prt6 podcast to update self on april drama)