Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial

[franky1]

HmmMAA sounds like his evidence that formed his opinion is sourced from coingeek

he has not seen the tulip list CSW filed of "satoshi stash" to then see lots of random people that actually own addresses in the list use their proof of authority to announce that they are not satoshi nor CSW.
just that alone proves CSW is a fraud.. CSW in courts(plural) declared he owned other peoples funds.. that is fraud

CSW has never shown a true original document that speaks of bitcoin from 2008-2013. every document that supposedly was dated pre 2013 that mentions bitcoin is a forgery.
for years people have seen him release or cough "leaked" (by him on purpose) documents, all of which has ended up being a forgery

even his scam sponsors, as 'witnesses' and his lawyers in the hodlonaut oslo case have said silly things that lack proof "i believe he is, because his mother, his uncle and a few more people say so."... funny thing is his mother was told by CSW that he worked for nasa. and that was her belief about her son at the exact same time

HmmMAA can learn all this if he bothered to read all the documentation and details released over the years. instead of reading the opinion pieces of coingeek, HmmMAA should look at the data of the blockchain, the code, the dates when forks happened, to see that CSW's favoured altcoin is not a twin sister of bitcoin, nor the first born.
its a unwanted, rejected grandchild of bitcoin, and it would have been aborted/orphaned if CSW didnt set up shell companies of zero collateral to be the orphanage that keep his baby alive

he has no claims over bitcoin, only BSV. and if he truly believed BSV was "bitcoin" then he can edit his own chain to his desires, but even he knows and realises his BSV is not bitcoin, which is why he is trying to come after the grand-daddy trying to pretend he is due inheritance. but can only make inheritance claims if he can prove he was the grand-daddy's parent.. which he cannot

[HmmMAA]

HmmMAA sounds like his evidence that formed his opinion is sourced from coingeek

Actually , i dislike coingeek , there are some articles that worth reading from specific authors but many things written regarding csw are way over biased . I dislike Kurt Wuckert Jr too , he's the main reason is stopped getting information from coingeek some years back .

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In a couple of months we will have an outcome , i'll just wait till then to come to a conclusion . I don't like throwing heretics on fire without a fair trial . Who knows , maybe a surprise is coming .

"Mηδενα πρo τoυ τελoυς μακαριζε" is a famous ancient greek quote , in english it's something common to the " It ain't over till the fat lady sings " .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croesus_and_Fate

If i'm wrong , who cares . But imagine what happens if i'm right . So , few months so you can officially declare me as a looney , have patience and get in the line .

[Lucius]

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"The identity case is expected to hinge on expert analysis of documents on computer memory sticks which Wright says he found in a drawer at his home last year. Wright will maintain that these will show his work leading up to the registration of www.bitcoin.org in 2008 and the minting of the first bitcoins in January 2009. (The blockchain contains the front-page headline of The Times on 3 January, 2009.)"
https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news-focus/news-focus-bitcoin-identity-dispute-comes-to-court/5118638.article

The man who has been fighting with all his might since 2016 to prove that he is Satoshi, only last year decided to open his drawer and see what was in it? This really proves his "genius" in everything he does - and if this "proof" fails what's next - maybe a picture of him and Hal Finney drinking coffee while talking about how Bitcoin is something wonderful?

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For example , even if only 1 document proves that csw is satoshi judge will declare him as satoshi , while community will dispute that and stick to the point that the others are forgeries . Why so ? Because we are not judges or lawyers .

1 document that may appear to be legitimate and 499 documents that are proven to be fabricated only prove that he is still a scammer who forges everything he can get his hands on. You can think whatever you want, but that man you think is Satoshi is not even capable of things that children do in elementary school, let alone something as complex as the invention of Bitcoin.

[BlackHatCoiner]

Regardless of the court's decision, CW will continue to claim that he is Satoshi, and people like you who, despite all the evidence that he is not, will continue to give him some incentive to continue to prove it.

I mean, even if the court said he was Satoshi, it'd seem more plausible as a scenario that the juries were bribed, or that Craig found a loophole in the law. It is beyond my understanding how can one throw away all the forgeries and evidence of him being completely untrustworthy, and stick to insignificant details-- which ultimately can apply to every individual.

In a couple of months we will have an outcome , i'll just wait till then to come to a conclusion . I don't like throwing heretics on fire without a fair trial  . Who knows , maybe a surprise is coming .

Seems to me like you really want him to be declared as Satoshi, no matter how you argue the opposite. If you didn't, you'd have focused on the evidence and forgeries that have ridiculed him years now. If your stance was neutral, you'd have looked on both that evidence and his "evidence", and reach the conclusion we've all had. You must be personally interested in him winning the case to support him as his unofficial lawyer.

[hilariousetc]

Day six.

Missed the first 30 minutes of the trial this morning but Craig is getting absolutely rekt right now. First time I've seen him red-faced as they are bringing up his Master of Law degree plagiarism haha. If I'm understanding him correctly he's now blaming the degree plagiarism on an editor he hired and also malfunctioning editing software. Even the judge has expressed disbelief asking Craig "how on earth" is this logical. Mind-blowing. Annoys me that they even keep referring to him as Dr Wright, a qualification he quite clearly has not earned.

You can see the evidence that they're discussing here now: https://medium.com/@paintedfrog/craig-wrights-llm-dissertation-is-full-of-plagiarism-f21439ea8a47

"Satoshi" is now trending on twitter.

[NotATether]

I don't want to be true that satoshi is csw , i want to see if this is a reality or not , based on a decision of someone who understands evidence . For example , even if only 1 document proves that csw is satoshi judge will declare him as satoshi , while community will dispute that and stick to the point that the others are forgeries . Why so ? Because we are not judges or lawyers .
This case can be won very easy if he provide that 1 evidence . Will he ? Grab your popcorn like me and wait . In a few months we will know who's right or wrong .

*One forged document

Of course we know that CSW has no real documents which he can use to prove he is Satoshi, so naturally he will try to submit fake ones. That's why expert witnesses are important, because they are able to call his bluff in a way that affects the court proceedings.

That is, assuming whoever is picked for an expert testimonial does not try to withhold evidence, to basically do what you just wrote.

Missed the first 30 minutes of the trial this morning but Craig is getting absolutely rekt right now. First time I've seen him red-faced as they are bringing up his Master of Law degree plagiarism haha. If I'm understanding him correctly he's now blaming the degree plagiarism on an editor he hired and also malfunctioning editing software. Even the judge has expressed disbelief asking Craig "how on earth"
is this logical. Mind-blowing. Annoys me that they even keep referring to him as Dr Wright, a qualification he quite clearly has not earned.

Well at least he didn't believe that the plagiarism was caused by a "malfunctioning Microsoft Word editor"... JFC.

[HmmMAA]

Annoys me that they even keep referring to him as Dr Wright, a qualification he quite clearly has not earned.

You can check his qualifications for charles state university here https://alumni.csu.edu.au/benefits/verify-qualifications , craig wright 23-10-1970

Edit. If his doctorate was plagiarised after all the noise years ago i would expected that the university would have it withdrawn , i'm not sure if this can happen though , someone with knowledge on this might add something productive .

[franky1]

HmmMAA sounds like his evidence that formed his opinion is sourced from coingeek

Actually , i dislike coingeek , there are some articles that worth reading from specific authors but many things written regarding csw are way over biased . I dislike Kurt Wuckert Jr too , he's the main reason is stopped getting information from coingeek some years back .

if you are reading ANYTHING from coingeek you already failed yourself. if you know enough about coingeek to know publishers names you know too much about them. by you admitting you previously relied on them and still read them. shows you are piling up on ketchup instead of gathering real sources(sauces)

as for your previous posts thinking CSW was smart and a candidate of satoshi due to intelligence. as hilariousetc just linked.. CSW not only used ghost writers to write his degree stuff, the stuff wrote were plagiarised. whole blocks of texts copy and pasted..  thus not showing any sign of individual intelligence/novel thinking.

he is cunning. has skills in forgery, but this does not translate to intelligence..
much like criminals have "street smarts" but get caught and put in prison.. does not translate to being smart enough to not get caught. they just have cunning to scam/steal enough to survive until caught. cunning is not equal to intelligence.
CSW is getting caught in court right now

[cryptosize]

HmmMAA sounds like his evidence that formed his opinion is sourced from coingeek

Actually , i dislike coingeek , there are some articles that worth reading from specific authors but many things written regarding csw are way over biased . I dislike Kurt Wuckert Jr too , he's the main reason is stopped getting information from coingeek some years back .

if you are reading ANYTHING from coingeek you already failed yourself. if you know enough about coingeek to know publishers names you know too much about them. by you admitting you previously relied on them and still read them. shows you are piling up on ketchup instead of gathering real sources(sauces)

as for your previous posts thinking CSW was smart and a candidate of satoshi due to intelligence. as hilariousetc just linked.. CSW not only used ghost writers to write his degree stuff, the stuff wrote were plagiarised. whole blocks of texts copy and pasted..  thus not showing any sign of individual intelligence/novel thinking.

he is cunning. has skills in forgery, but this does not translate to intelligence..
much like criminals have "street smarts" but get caught and put in prison.. does not translate to being smart enough to not get caught. they just have cunning to scam/steal enough to survive until caught. cunning is not equal to intelligence.
CSW is getting caught in court right now

I'll never understand why courts are considered "objective", since they're being ruled by (subjective) human beings with hidden agendas.

The exact same courts didn't declare mandatory lockdowns illegal... just sayin'.

I don't believe a single word that comes from them.

[HmmMAA]

if you are reading ANYTHING from coingeek you already failed yourself. if you know enough about coingeek to know publishers names you know too much about them. by you admitting you previously relied on them and still read them. shows you are piling up on ketchup instead of gathering real sources(sauces)

as for your previous posts thinking CSW was smart and a candidate of satoshi due to intelligence. as hilariousetc just linked.. CSW not only used ghost writers to write his degree stuff, the stuff wrote were plagiarised. whole blocks of texts copy and pasted..  thus not showing any sign of individual intelligence/novel thinking.

he is cunning. has skills in forgery, but this does not translate to intelligence..
much like criminals have "street smarts" but get caught and put in prison.. does not translate to being smart enough to not get caught. they just have cunning to scam/steal enough to survive until caught. cunning is not equal to intelligence.
CSW is getting caught in court right now

I have also read hitler's mein campf and quran , i guess my hands should be chopped off as a punishment .

[franky1]

courts are mediators. where its for the defense and prosecution to show their sides and prove/disprove each other and the judge just chooses the winner of the dispute/debate based on what the dispute is about

yes courts can be abused.
take for instance the CSW vs Ira Kleiman

everyone knows in 2009-13 CSW had no bitcoin and not involved in it
everyone knows in 2010-11 got talking to am american guy called Dave and they set up W&K to (wright:scam - dave:apply for grants)  US gov defense grants. Dave K realised CSW was not going to offer real US defense services and distanced himself and discontinued communication with CSW
W&K had nothing to do with bitcoin, pre 2013

in 2013 CSW bought his first bitcoin but wanted to use W&K brand to now get involved in bitcoin because W&K was a US business he can take advantage over for US exchanging. but found out his ex-partner died. so took over the brand..
then later communicated with IRA to suggest they should both agree that W&K was worth billions and had some (false) patents involved.. as IRa would earn some money out of this agreement
so they both went to court acting like frenemies pretending they both agree that W&K had assets and value, but where the court filed dispute was purely on ownership stake of the brand.. just so CSW can start his proof of satoshi games in court. by getting the court to not make verdict on the W&K assets.. but just ownership % of brand thus in CSW view make him feel the court is proving W&K had assets because the judge didnt argue about proof of assets

yep
if both parties can secretly agree that a empty shell has crabs... even if the shell is actually empty. by both parties saying they agree the shell has crabs. but the dispute is only about who gets to hold the shell.. the judge does not check for crabs. thus people then (falsely) believe the shell has crabs, even if dispute is solely about who gets to hold the SHELL

if you are reading ANYTHING from coingeek you already failed yourself. if you know enough about coingeek to know publishers names you know too much about them. by you admitting you previously relied on them and still read them. shows you are piling up on ketchup instead of gathering real sources(sauces)

as for your previous posts thinking CSW was smart and a candidate of satoshi due to intelligence. as hilariousetc just linked.. CSW not only used ghost writers to write his degree stuff, the stuff wrote were plagiarised. whole blocks of texts copy and pasted..  thus not showing any sign of individual intelligence/novel thinking.

he is cunning. has skills in forgery, but this does not translate to intelligence..
much like criminals have "street smarts" but get caught and put in prison.. does not translate to being smart enough to not get caught. they just have cunning to scam/steal enough to survive until caught. cunning is not equal to intelligence.
CSW is getting caught in court right now

I have also read hitler's mein campf and quran , i guess my hands should be chopped off as a punishment .

again maybe you should catchup and gather actual sources rather than gather ketchup sauces

[LeezHamilton]

courts are mediators. where its for the defense and prosecution to show their sides and prove/disprove each other and the judge just chooses the winner of the dispute/debate based on what the dispute is about

yes courts can be abused.
take for instance the CSW vs Ira Kleiman

everyone knows in 2009-13 CSW had no bitcoin and not involved in it
everyone knows in 2010-11 got talking to am american guy called Dave and they set up W&K to (wright:scam - dave:apply for grants)  US gov defense grants. Dave K realised CSW was not going to offer real US defense services and distanced himself and discontinued communication with CSW
W&K had nothing to do with bitcoin, pre 2013

in 2013 CSW bought his first bitcoin but wanted to use W&K brand to now get involved in bitcoin because W&K was a US business he can take advantage over for US exchanging. but found out his ex-partner died. so took over the brand..
then later communicated with IRA to suggest they should both agree that W&K was worth billions and had some (false) patents involved.. as IRa would earn some money out of this agreement
so they both went to court acting like frenemies pretending they both agree that W&K had assets and value, but where the court filed dispute was purely on ownership stake of the brand.. just so CSW can start his proof of satoshi games in court. by getting the court to not make verdict on the W&K assets.. but just ownership % of brand thus in CSW view make him feel the court is proving W&K had assets because the judge didnt argue about proof of assets

yep
if both parties can secretly agree that a empty shell has crabs... even if the shell is actually empty. by both parties saying they agree the shell has crabs. but the dispute is only about who gets to hold the shell.. the judge does not check for crabs. thus people then (falsely) believe the shell has crabs, even if dispute is solely about who gets to hold the SHELL

Hi, That is a good analogy.  I like your argument. The truth is far from this two parties pretending and debating of the fact if whether Dr CSW is Satoshi or Dr Fraud, This  arguments in the High Court in London is just a setup by Craig and the COPA organiser Jack Dorsey.

There is a hidden agenda of this case to file in London by COPA. They could have file the case in in US but they did not because they went no where in the Florida Case. So have chosen  London because, Satoshi Nakamoto is a British Economic scientist and he is a Londoner.

Tomorrow, there will be a twist. It is a twist of the Tricks of the Trade of the Bitcoin Drama.  


If Andreas Antonopoulos and Anthony Pompliano would have claimed to be Satoshi Nakamoto jointly then that could have been a reasonable claim. COPA is challenging Craig but there is secret deal going on between this two sponsored by a third party.  

No matter,  whatever would be the out come, for as far as I am sure the real Satoshi will not come out and Challenge Craig unless it is necessary.

[franky1]

Hi, That is a good analogy.  I like your argument. The truth is far from this two parties pretending and debating of the fact if whether Dr CSW is Satoshi or Dr Fraud, This  arguments in the High Court in London is just a setup by Craig and the COPA organiser Jack Dorsey.

There is a hidden agenda of this case to file in London by COPA. They could have file the case in in US but they did not because they went no where in the Florida Case. So have chosen  London because, Satoshi Nakamoto is a British Economic scientist and he is a Londoner.

Tomorrow, there will be a twist. It is a twist of the Tricks of the Trade of the Bitcoin Drama.  

this copa case is not like the W&k case
COPA is actually challenging CSW. the other case of Ira was not about challenging but just setting a narrative.

COPA are trying to break CSW narrative

also it was CSW that first filed against COPA people. so due to CSW being in london, thats where the case lays

[Casdinyard]

Craig's defence seemed to consist of just letting the court know about Craig's autism and previous suicide attempt due to the stress of trying and failing to prove he's Satoshi. I guess they know they're probably not going to win this so are going for the sympathy route or at least bracing themselves for inevitable failure and using Craig's autism as an excuse for the lies and forged documents.

That's what CSW and his lawyer could do at this moment because they know that they do not have any proof. I haven't watched anything and don't know where to check how CSW was lookin like. Bu his lawyer seems like helpless when he was using craig's autism and his suicidal attempts as an excuse. LOL.

Who know's what this person want? What would be his benefit if people accept his as satoshi as he do not have the access to anything (like old bitcoin on old addresses). Maybe he would be sucessfully able to scam people by start selling shitcoins?

Jesus fucking Christ this guy could've just given up with trying to prove that he's Satoshi Nakamoto and we would've been okay with it (well not really cause we'd roast and cook the fuck outta him for a while but it's gonna die down unlike what we're doing to him right now) But he keeps on making himself look like a massive clown in front of the jury and in front of the people. Like at this point you would've guessed he's already given up on trying to quell the haters but NOO, he's out for blood as a court ruling's gonna change how we look at his ugly mug.

Annoys me that they even keep referring to him as Dr Wright, a qualification he quite clearly has not earned.

You can check his qualifications for charles state university here https://alumni.csu.edu.au/benefits/verify-qualifications , craig wright 23-10-1970

Edit. If his doctorate was plagiarised after all the noise years ago i would expected that the university would have it withdrawn , i'm not sure if this can happen though , someone with knowledge on this might add something productive .

You guys are both getting off on a tangent right here. The discussion's all about whether the clown is Satoshi or not (which let's be real here, he's not man) and we got Mr. 95% CSW believer right here trynna prove something. Whether he got his doctorate or not doesn't matter. What matters is that he doesn't even own a single satoshi until 2013 as most sources state and as franky iterated which is a telltale sign that he's not Satoshi. Like I'm so surprised that even after all the metaphorical pants-shitting that CSW Faketoshi has done in the past up until now (including the fact that his panel's using his mental impairment as an angle to gain the court's sympathy which is a massive wtf for me) you'd think he's not gonna garner anymore delulu believers but here we got HmmMAA contradicting his very own statements. C'mon folks.

[cryptosize]

Let's move the BSV/BCH discussion in a more appropriate thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484918.0

[LeezHamilton]

You guys do not know anything about the Bitcoin and Blockchain Invention story.  None of you really know the true facts behind the emergence and the advent of the Decentralised Digital Electronic Cash System which its  so-called mysterious inventor has pioneered.  You have no clues of anything at all.  You have found the Bitcoin Forum and Bitcoin Core and Blockchain all of a sudden and many of you have become millionaires and Billionaires and enjoying life  what your great grandfather and father never imagined.  

Do not think that I am a teenage girl and have no technical or economic background. I wish I could have an audience with you all to discuss the matter in relation to Bitcoin and Blockchain and of course regarding our Dr Craig Wright and his so-called W&K Limited and BSV and also his claim of Satoshi Nakamoto Identity.

Craig Wright even is not Dr Craig Wright He is just a great actor, which few secret service agents and fiat financial elites together have recruited him   to act as an actor. Everybody knows that he has no programming background. He can only speak In Front of few people what he learned from DOCCO,

Do you really want Craig to retire from his bold claim of Satoshi Nakamoto without extraordinary and concrete  proof for an extraordinary claim ?  Then wake up men ! if you are man  enough to bring the real Satoshi Nakamoto on the spot.  Come forward !  I will produce the real Satoshi Nakamoto in the Court, who will establish Craig Wright's position in the place where he is supposed to be.

Ask a very simple question to yourself ?  the man who created the Digital Currency industry, is he so stupid and greedy who is allegedly holding 1.1Million Bitcoin and doing nothing, when a man like Craig Steven Wright is trying to re-hijack Bitcoin and Blockchain its intellectual property rights ?

You all are here in the forum bloody scaring cats and mice. You do not have any knowledge of the real Satoshi Nakamoto.  He will return soon and will punish all those who are abusing his Bitcoin and Blockchain and its monetary credibility. Also will be awarded to those who are doing good works.  It was the law, that Thou shall not Fork Bitcoin, you have done it. Now you are staging COPA -v- Craig Wright to break rules and bringing British Judicial Laws to break the Blockchain to grant Craig Wight the right to take over the Bitcoin and Blockchain industry ? No it won't happen.  

Craig should be happy to do business under a limit. He has crossed the limit. It is time to bring the real Satoshi Nakamoto in the Court. Who will be the Third Party in the COPA versus Craig Wright Case.  This will solves all the problems. Hundreds of Thousands of journalists and millions of people wasting billions of Hours to find Satoshi Nakamoto by writing articles.   I am convinced it is time for Satoshi Nakamoto to reveal his identity on 14 February 2024 instead of 14 Feb. 2020 which was blocked by the CoronaVirus Pandemic.  

The real Satoshi Nakamoto has already requested Justice Lord Mellor to grant him permission to attend the Court as a Third Party. Tomorrow 13 February 2024, I will Publish the Official Letter of Satoshi Nakamoto in this Forum.  You will find a link below and find it.  

 

  

[franky1]

i believe LeezHamilton went by a different forum username months-years ago... "bitcoinmoses". same crap different season

[Cryptomultiplier]

As part of my contribution to providing updates on this court case between Dr. Wright and COPA, here are some excerpt from the last hearing and it is more on the case of forged documents brought forward to question the authentication of Dr. Wrights claim.
I however still doubt Dr. Wright is Nakamoto even if he has several documents to show he was among the originators of most of Bitcoin's technical initiative such as the P2p mode of transaction used.

More evidence will be provided soonest during the next court hearing, so am staying glued and making my observation known accordingly.

[Lucius]

As part of my contribution to providing updates on this court case between Dr. Wright and COPA, here are some excerpt from the last hearing...
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How about learning to post pictures that are the appropriate size for the forum? Otherwise, refrain from such posts, which do not benefit anyone, and only cause problems for everyone who has slow internet and limited data traffic.

In addition, you are promoting CW shitcoin and a website that directly supports this scammer

[DooMAD]

*snip Ayre propaganda*

As part of my contribution to providing updates on this court case between Dr. Wright and COPA, here are some excerpt from the last hearing and it is more on the case of forged documents brought forward to question the authentication of Dr. Wrights claim.
I however still doubt Dr. Wright is Nakamoto even if he has several documents to show he was among the originators of most of Bitcoin's technical initiative such as the P2p mode of transaction used.

More evidence will be provided soonest during the next court hearing, so am staying glued and making my observation known accordingly.

And as part of my contribution of providing a counter to FUD, I'll again point out that the source of these "updates" is a website run by people funding Wright's sad little campaign of lawsuits against this very community and its developers.  Anything from 'CG' is not to be trusted as it is a BSV shitcoin site, not a Bitcoin site.  People citing CG as a reputable source are not to be trusted.