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February 13, 2024, 03:39:58 PM
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When we talk about influencial names in crypto aside the greatest of the greatest like Satoshi Nakamoto and Vitalik Buterin, we hear names like Chanpeng Zhao, Justin Sun, Barry Silbert and the rest. I have only come across few female names which are quite unpopular if you ask me. Names like Caitlin Long, Cathie Wood and Elizabeth Stark are few names that rings a bell out of the thousands names one can find. Do you think there are more influencial women in crypto, this will help to encourage more women into adopting cryptocurrency? Perhaps there are some which are doing really great but we haven't got to hear their names.

Firstly what does technology have to do with gender, anyone who contributes to developing a system is never recognized based on gender, what's bad if more men or more women are contributing on a platform to evolve the system? What matters is the system itself and its growth not the number of individuals based on gender.

Why do people particularly mention men & women even in this timeline I really cant get it. What could make a change wether a technology is developed by men or women that not the concern for if you are a consumer just use the technology and live good, if you are a competitor put more efforts for more efficient product.

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February 13, 2024, 05:32:57 PM
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As a woman—by any definition—the question strikes me as odd, perhaps because of my non-U.S. upbringing.

First, is there a compelling reason a project needs specific types of individuals—women, Indians, or birdwatchers—unless justified by concrete technical, research, or market-related factors? Crypto inherently does not discriminate and is, in my honest opinion, one of the least toxic and most welcoming domains. A primary reason, as highlighted by many, is the anonymity of most community members. Who's to say a significant number of us aren't women? Maybe Satoshi Nakamoto is a woman, or a collective of women—who can tell?  Wink

Second, as m2017 said, "if there are women who want to build a career in this field, then if they have the abilities and talents, they will very quickly become famous and influential personalities." From personal experience, I can say that in real life it's already reverse discrimination on steroids. Almost every time I attended any relevant events like at MIT, people offer to join some random project because having a female team member will be beneficial to apply to, say, YCombinator just because of the shape of my organs, and I'm in the right place with that shape. This situation upsets me a lot because I do not want or need genitalia-based affirmative action; I personally consider it (reverse) discrimination.

Third, if you want more women involved in anything, you are working from the wrong direction. It's not the crypto community (or almost any in the English-speaking world) that discriminates against women; it's the huge number of women who are now being treated as slaves/property/cattle and not allowed to have education and participate in literally anything. Free these women, and you automatically increase the number of women participating in all types of projects everywhere. Girls born in the US don't know how lucky they are. The main obstacle in my life to being involved in fields I loved, that my family considered inappropriate for a girl (like computers, technical things, math), was *traditional family values*—the "be pretty not smart" mentality. When it became obvious that I had some math talent by winning local math Olympiads without any training (I was surprised when years later I found out that people train for math Olympiads the same as for sport Olympiads; I was under the impression you are just sent to it and get a free day from school), instead of embracing it, my mother told me a story about some acquaintance of hers who was a math professor but did not have a family and was, according to my mother, very unhappy (although she had no f..g idea). That's why I urgently need to compensate now for all the most productive learning time I lost before I escaped from the iron hug of my "loving family," and I need to self-educate myself very quickly to get up to speed.

Bottom line, yes, we need to end discrimination of women, but not where there is none (like in the crypto community), but where the root of the problem actually is—in terrible societies where women are property, not people. For example, in Afghanistan, the word "kidnapped" is translated differently for men and women: for men/boys, the meaning is close to "kidnapped," but for women/girls, it's "stolen" like a cow—a cow cannot be kidnapped, it can only be stolen. If all those feminists had spent an iota of their energy on fighting the disastrous women's situation where it's actually urgently needed, perhaps this question about "more women" anywhere would be even less relevant than it is now in the English-speaking world.

I apologize for the rant; I needed to say it out loud, and this forum is probably the only place where I can speak freely without self-censorship.
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February 13, 2024, 06:49:01 PM
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What's the need to balance the numbers between men and women in this industry? Investment chooses no gender or race, except one's will and initiative to invest as well as knowledge to do so, nothing more and nothing less. There are just people who tend to compaare; if you notice that male investors are way larger with number of female also doing the same thing, that is only because of difference with preference as an individual. Crypto in the first place still has its issue concerning market price volatility and widescale adoption as an alternative mode of payment. It doesn't matter if you are a girl or not, as long as you know to yourself what you are engaging yourself with. Rather than focusing with the differences, it would be better to look for things we do all have in common;  drive to earn profit and being patient of profit.

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February 13, 2024, 07:11:22 PM
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When we talk about influencial names in crypto aside the greatest of the greatest like Satoshi Nakamoto and Vitalik Buterin, we hear names like Chanpeng Zhao, Justin Sun, Barry Silbert and the rest. I have only come across few female names which are quite unpopular if you ask me. Names like Caitlin Long, Cathie Wood and Elizabeth Stark are few names that rings a bell out of the thousands names one can find. Do you think there are more influencial women in crypto, this will help to encourage more women into adopting cryptocurrency? Perhaps there are some which are doing really great but we haven't got to hear their names.
Doesnt really matter actually which gender is really that dominating here on crypto space and with those known personalities or figures here on crypto on which if it turns out that those big names are mostly males
then it doesnt mean that women in population wont really be that having those kind of impressions on getting interested with cryptocurrencies? I dont actually see the relevance because when it comes to poking up
someones interest then it wont matter whether you have seen it on a man or a woman into those words which are correlated to crypto.

Well, it doesnt matter much though since we've seen that recognition and adoption rate is never been that stopping and it gets better or higher year by year.
Sooner or later we've been able to see that majority of the population do already know Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies existence and just like on what i have
said that this is something which is inevitable.

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February 13, 2024, 09:15:33 PM
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If they will come OP, they're welcome but it doesn't mean this would help and promote crypto adoption and I know investors don't focus on knowing who is investing in Bitcoin. People will embrace crypto if they gain trust and interest in this because even hearing those influential names if they live in doubts, that can't be possible to step in, they will still move away.

It is not the gender that brings people confidence in embracing/adapting crypto but it is their understanding as we can't bring people in if they never know something about Bitcoin and crypto in general. Maybe that will encourage them but not the assurance that it gets much attention from the community.
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When we talk about influencial names in crypto aside the greatest of the greatest like Satoshi Nakamoto and Vitalik Buterin, we hear names like Chanpeng Zhao, Justin Sun, Barry Silbert and the rest. I have only come across few female names which are quite unpopular if you ask me. Names like Caitlin Long, Cathie Wood and Elizabeth Stark are few names that rings a bell out of the thousands names one can find. Do you think there are more influencial women in crypto, this will help to encourage more women into adopting cryptocurrency? Perhaps there are some which are doing really great but we haven't got to hear their names.
There are many women in cryptocurrency whose identity we don't know. There may also be many large holders in Bitcoin that we don't know. Several individuals has also said that gender discrimination should not bring in this purpose either. Since this platform values one's privacy it is foolish to share personal information which no one would want to do. You mentioned some of the top names in cryptocurrency but there are many women who are anonymously contributing to the space as well. Looking at Bitcoin wallets can't tell anything but it can be inferred that women aren't far behind in the crypto space either.

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February 13, 2024, 10:07:53 PM
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You're right in what you said, all of us who hold or buy Bitcoin can do what we want to do, honestly. If you want to do it, you can do it for experience. so it's just that in these situations, which is the time of accumulation of Bitcoin in most of the crypto field, we will first put aside the use of Bitcoin as payment in any business that accepts it as payment.

It is even better for now to accumulate it until the time when we need to sell it because we know that we can make a profit from it. It's that simple to do as holders.

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February 13, 2024, 10:15:57 PM
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The debate on gender arises where there is no equality and women are treated down. This means that for the same work done, women will be paid less and men will get higher pay. These kinds of activities can be seen in some places. In such a situation, there is a need for stronger women who are capable of fighting for their rights. Here, no such issues were recorded, as the majority of the activities take place in an anonymous manner. Compared to the past, the involvement of women in the cryptospace has increased. This is quite good and appreciable.

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February 13, 2024, 10:24:18 PM
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I think cryptocurrency does not differentiate between gender and age in its adoption and development, how many women there are is not an obstacle for crypto to move forward,
Even though in reality there are many women who have entered crypto themselves, they hide themselves from their gender

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First thing first, I always support women to get to the top of whatever they are doing. And in this modern era other than physical strength and willingness, there is really nothing that prevent women from achieving what man can achieve, especially in the developed nation where the opportunity and role for women and men is equal. So if there is lack of women showing up as a crypto influencer I think it is a matter of choice because strength doesn't matter in this field.

And I don't think we need more influencer not man nor women, there is already enough influencer in crypto Industry, and let's be honest most of us doesn't even actually listen to those influencers, we know it's just for the show. And if we look at the crypto project's team, there is already many women working in the engineering or marketing department, so I think those women are choosing to work in the thing that actually matter in the crypto Industry, rather than just become an influencer.


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The debate on gender arises where there is no equality and women are treated down. This means that for the same work done, women will be paid less and men will get higher pay. These kinds of activities can be seen in some places. In such a situation, there is a need for stronger women who are capable of fighting for their rights. Here, no such issues were recorded, as the majority of the activities take place in an anonymous manner. Compared to the past, the involvement of women in the cryptospace has increased. This is quite good and appreciable.
IMO the reason for less number of women in crypto might be women may be more risk-averse and less likely to invest in or pursue careers in such fields.  Plus factor of this lack of confidence may deter women from participating in male-dominated spaces like involving in crypto.
That's why, most of those influencers are men, not women but hopefully, in the future, there will be great women influencers.

But sometimes I think that we shouldn't need influencers and gender doesn't matter since we're all here in this space wanted to be anonymous for privacy matters.

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I don't see any big issue right here now, we can compare this to "Women in tech".
So for me, increasing the number of powerful women in the crypto industry can be a great way to bring about change, but it's also critical to address the systemic problems that lie at the root of gender imbalances, like discrimination in hiring procedures, workplace culture and resource and education accesibility.

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I think that would be good to get more influential women in crypto.

There are definitely women who have a negative connotation of Bitcoin and Crypto due to men generally being more attracted to "riskier" investments and technology than women, and therefore they actually think of Bitcoin and Crypto as a male thing, rather than simply a technology, just because men are naturally more attracted to the type of thing that Bitcoin happens to be.

Women actually see Bitcoin/Crypto as some male culture thing that is gate-kept by men, as though it actually has anything to do with gender, and therefore something that simply isn't for women. And among some women the toxic scammy annoying "Crypto Bro" stereotype is how they think of anyone who is at all involved in the space. With some women if you even mention Bitcoin they think you are doing something suspicious or are going to try to scam them. Bitcoin is still largely seen as a suspicious thing, and for women even more so simply because it happens to more easily attract men. Basically they think Bitcoin and Crypto is some men's club, rather than being a technology. And that's not good because the more women who think this and express these opinions, the more women who are going to adopt that line of thought.


Unfortunately the vast majority of people don't yet have any distinction between Bitcoin's role as a revolutionary global currency for humanity and "Crypto degens" / "Crypto bros" / altcoins and NFT shilling get-rich-quick scammy type people. So Bitcoin gets lumped in with the shadier and absurd parts of Crypto. Of course this doesn't have anything to do with gender, but adding in the fact that pretty much all the toxic or silly stuff is done by men (because its mostly men in the space in general) makes women associate the bad stuff with crypto men and therefore think the whole space is to be avoided as some sort of male money cult.

Probably doesn't help either that I feel like half the time I actually hear about a woman getting popular in the space its because she's giving crypto trading advice based on make-believe astrology nonsense, which makes it seem like only silly women get involved in the space. Probably also don't help that when I try to think of a woman associated with crypto in some way, the first name that pops in my head is Elizabeth Warren, who is horribly misinformed on Bitcoin and very publicly hates it and is regarded by many women (and men) as a righteous crusader. I mean I'm liberal and agree strongly with her on some stuff (mostly social policy) but her economic ideas, including on Bitcoin, just tend to be extreme and stupid.

So it seems like right now when women become popular for crypto views its either for being silly or for being strongly against Bitcoin due to misinformation. Not the kind of Bitcoin/Crypto female role models anyone should want.

There is Lyn Alden Schwartzer, who is a financial analyst whose content on Bitcoin I've seen occasionally over the past few years. And she is probably the most sensible and intelligent person I've ever seen talk about Bitcoin. Whenever I read her stuff it parallels my own knowledge/thoughts of Bitcoin, but then she brings in her vast additional knowledge and data to shed new light on the subject that is far beyond my own knowledge. But most people don't have a clue who she is since she's not some celebrity finance person.

Anyway, yes we need more influencial women in crypto so certain demographics of women stop associating Bitcoin/Crypto as some "crypto bro" male money cult and instead recognize it as a incredibly powerful monetary technology that they should be involved with.

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Do you think there are more influential women in crypto, this will help to encourage more women into adopting cryptocurrency? Perhaps there are some which are doing really great but we haven't got to hear their names.


Well, the cryptocurrency industry is always open to anyone regardless of gender, age, race and all other factors so if there are only a few women then maybe it is not yet their time to go in. As mentioned above, there are now women who are famous in this industry so in terms of role model we have them and it is all up to women to take the challenge and be a part of this still men-dominated world. Do we have to tell women to join us here? You can do that if you want but that can be a big waste of time as cryptocurrency is mostly online anyone with an interest can easily find information she is looking for. So the question is: Why women are less interested with cryptocurrency...is it the perceived risks in here like many of them are viewing crypto like gambling?

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Do we have to think about it? Not only in the crypto space, but women are less active in industrial activities and almost every activity that is outside of the home. Even though anyone can be in crypto without going outside. But, the mentality matters as well. Not every woman cares about making money or inventing something new that will help them make money.

Everyone wants easy money these days. If someone could make money more easily, why they would work hard? Girls usually like working hard at home to make it better for you. Isn't it better? She let you work and earn, and she work to satisfy you and give you comfort when you are tired.

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It is the world of the Internet and digital currencies, and it is difficult to know the dealers unless they want to reveal their identity publicly

But I believe that there are pioneering women in this field and in other fields, despite their small number. Perhaps everyone should be supported to make work and profit opportunities equal for all .
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First of all,the gender feature is not necessary,secondly,bitcoin is not gender-based which makes it accessible to all.
 Honestly,some controversies are not even supposed to be on the table,there's nothing like gender inequality here its not the men's fault that fewer women are not interested in bitcoin.Normally,the man is the head family and he is supposed to be more explorative and committed when it comes to career.Its only few women that are conscious about taking big responsibilities in career.
  Most women have less interest in bitcoin,already,been a mother is also a full time job for time and having to deal with too much work load can get them choked up.And its okay for us to never think and believe that the cryptospace is gender-based.

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They enrich the playing field with their distinct viewpoints, not just diversify it. We have pioneers like Caitlin Long, Cathie Wood, and Elizabeth Stark, but there are more.

Though the crypto realm is broad, we typically hear the same names. We must raise the voices of women creating waves while staying under the radar. I believe that more women in the crypto spotlight will inspire and encourage a new generation of women to enter the blockchain sector.

Diversity is key to the crypto industry's future. By empowering women, we're breaking gender barriers and unleashing a long-untapped source of invention and creativity. More influential women in crypto might revolutionize the business, not only for women.

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When we talk about influencial names in crypto aside the greatest of the greatest like Satoshi Nakamoto and Vitalik Buterin, we hear names like Chanpeng Zhao, Justin Sun, Barry Silbert and the rest. I have only come across few female names which are quite unpopular if you ask me. Names like Caitlin Long, Cathie Wood and Elizabeth Stark are few names that rings a bell out of the thousands names one can find. Do you think there are more influencial women in crypto, this will help to encourage more women into adopting cryptocurrency? Perhaps there are some which are doing really great but we haven't got to hear their names.

One of the most important names is that of Cynthia Dwork , a woman that with Moni Naor came up with the idea of proof of work back in 1993 . I think that having influential people is not a good thing , we need knowledgeable ones like Cynthia that have something important to add .
Some of the male names you mention above are currently facing criminal charges , so i wouldn't consider them a plus . Most of them just want to take big profits and don't give a f****g f**k for the technology that can change the world as we know it .  

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Perhaps there are some which are doing really great but we haven't got to hear their names.
Because they think they don't need to show up and tell the world that they are investing in crypto despite their gender.
In fact, social media influencers are more influential than these legit investors as we see. Many people believe these fake investors than those who are officially investing in cryptocurrencies. Because it was not the name or gender, what makes people embrace crypto is their interest and the way they understand how this works. Once they feel confident, with no doubts they will get into it and start. Building trust can't be made too easily or too fast which is why the adaption happens slowly, not an instant.

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