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Friends, that's good, but we also have to remember that we live in a country that has regulations, which I mean is still using the money that has been spent for transactions. If you want to do business without wanting to save money in the bank, that's a good thing to do.

So, getting out of this problem certainly requires effort and support from rich people who want to care about this by forming a community like you want to do and explaining the working pattern so that it makes sense, where in the future the circulation of money will continue to be sustainable from beginning to end and continue to circulate. play in the community. For example, a cattle fattening business or something else.

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Friends, that's good, but we also have to remember that we live in a country that has regulations, which I mean is still using the money that has been spent for transactions. If you want to do business without wanting to save money in the bank, that's a good thing to do.

So, getting out of this problem certainly requires effort and support from rich people who want to care about this by forming a community like you want to do and explaining the working pattern so that it makes sense, where in the future the circulation of money will continue to be sustainable from beginning to end and continue to circulate. play in the community. For example, a cattle fattening business or something else.
Yes you have said the very basic point that to overcome this problem, the intervention of upper-class people and powerful people is very necessary. Many people in society are trying hard to earn or to get out of poverty but need a small initiative that can be done by upper-class people or powerful people. As an example I can talk about a big car with all the parts in place and the parts ready to work only needing to turn a small key to move the big car forward.

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March 22, 2024, 07:46:21 AM
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If you see someone not good with you then leave their system people only Are poor becouse they go along with the system , nobody not superior of you we all are Humans so If create the our own system then we prosper.
In all your explanations this is where i got a point. I agree with you on this aspect of poor people continue thesame system. The reason why most people are poor is because there mind is sticked to what they know, and may never try to explore new things. The poor thinks the rich are born to be rich why the poor are also born to be poor not knowing that the rich makes use of opportunity given to them and utilize it. But the poor always have double though and keep procrastinating and see things in awkward ways becoming jealous of other people success instead of making a move by taking a bold step. Most at time the fear of failure is the reason behind not achieve greater things. Sometimes your mind keeps telling you you can't do it. And you feel it's difficult, but when you make a move at first, it may look discouraging but after several attempts you discover that you where the one who was delaying yourself. I have been in that state before and I know how it feels to see other people above you yet you can't be like them. But one other thing is that rich men don't sleep like poor men. They do more research and strategies on how to grow in wisdom and succeed in there endeavours.

The solution the poor need is changing their mindset and start becoming productive. If the agriculture you explain is a starting point I guest they should explore in which ever way they can do better.

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March 22, 2024, 04:47:54 PM
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As human beings we are all the same. But we all do injustice to the poor.We look at them with discrimination.And this has been going on for ages.The poor are deprived and abused everywhere.But it is through these poor that we meet our food needs and do other things.How will we meet our food needs if the poor farmers do not produce crops? If we think a little deeper we can stop ourselves from the discrimination we do.Those who depend on them will surely suffer a harassment

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March 22, 2024, 07:21:18 PM
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As human beings we are all the same. But we all do injustice to the poor.We look at them with discrimination.And this has been going on for ages.The poor are deprived and abused everywhere.But it is through these poor that we meet our food needs and do other things.How will we meet our food needs if the poor farmers do not produce crops? If we think a little deeper we can stop ourselves from the discrimination we do.Those who depend on them will surely suffer a harassment
That is what is happening now because all of us want reciprocity, so there is no possibility of getting it if we do anything with poor people.
But I don't think farmers are poor people, I don't think so because they are people who are able to meet their living needs.

The poor are those who don't know where to find income so everything is done with the limited trust many people have in them which makes it even more difficult.
Hard work that is done more than other people is a form of effort that poor people make so that they can get out of this situation, and it is a difficult thing that not many people can do.
therefore, they need a solution or way out.

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March 22, 2024, 07:45:34 PM
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As human beings we are all the same. But we all do injustice to the poor.We look at them with discrimination.And this has been going on for ages.The poor are deprived and abused everywhere.But it is through these poor that we meet our food needs and do other things.How will we meet our food needs if the poor farmers do not produce crops? If we think a little deeper we can stop ourselves from the discrimination we do.Those who depend on them will surely suffer a harassment
That is what is happening now because all of us want reciprocity, so there is no possibility of getting it if we do anything with poor people.
But I don't think farmers are poor people, I don't think so because they are people who are able to meet their living needs.

The poor are those who don't know where to find income so everything is done with the limited trust many people have in them which makes it even more difficult.
Hard work that is done more than other people is a form of effort that poor people make so that they can get out of this situation, and it is a difficult thing that not many people can do.
therefore, they need a solution or way out.
Whether we do like it or not on which there would really be those people who are living on poor state on a certain community on which it would really be just that understandable on living into this world where
inequality is something that always been part of this world that we do live. If you are someone whose really been that included into these brackets then it would really be just that right that you should
really be doing your bets or make that hard work on finding ways on making yourself that better when it comes to finances. Some would really be just that contented on where they are now or what condition
that they are dealing off with and some wont really be projecting their life on the current living that they are into and this is why they would really be adding up hard work and dealings into
those opportunities that could bring out that possible lift you up into poverty or poor life.

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March 22, 2024, 08:04:42 PM
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In all your explanations this is where i got a point. I agree with you on this aspect of poor people continue thesame system. The reason why most people are poor is because there mind is sticked to what they know, and may never try to explore new things. The poor thinks the rich are born to be rich why the poor are also born to be poor not knowing that the rich makes use of opportunity given to them and utilize it. But the poor always have double though and keep procrastinating and see things in awkward ways becoming jealous of other people success instead of making a move by taking a bold step. Most at time the fear of failure is the reason behind not achieve greater things. Sometimes your mind keeps telling you you can't do it. And you feel it's difficult, but when you make a move at first, it may look discouraging but after several attempts you discover that you where the one who was delaying yourself. I have been in that state before and I know how it feels to see other people above you yet you can't be like them. But one other thing is that rich men don't sleep like poor men. They do more research and strategies on how to grow in wisdom and succeed in there endeavours.

You've raised good points about the mindset and habits that can contribute to poverty or wealth. It's true that fear of failure, procrastination, and lack of exploration can limit one's potential. The rich tend to invest time in learning, strategizing, and seizing opportunities while the poor may not. However its important to note that external factors, like socio-economic conditions and systemic inequalities, also play a significant role in wealth distribution. It's not just about mindset, but also about opportunities and resources available.
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March 22, 2024, 08:30:39 PM
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There is so much flaws about your statement. First of all, what kind of authority do you have to impose a currency of your own in one community even more so policies and regulations? How are you so sure that people are going to use the currency you had just created. Yes, you can create a currency of your own if you do not want to use fiat but what use is it for if you’re the only one using it? Even you won’t be able to use it if no one else sees it as an official currency.

Even growing your own food would still require you to use fiat. There are so much more things you have to pay for in fiat. This is why cryptocurrencies aren’t yet used widely: the rest of the world is still using fiat.

It’s not that easy to create your own currency especially the poor ones who some are illiterate and do not have enough funds nor the ability to create ones.

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March 22, 2024, 08:54:46 PM
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It’s not that easy to create your own currency especially the poor ones who some are illiterate and do not have enough funds nor the ability to create ones.
Creating another currency requires a lot of things for it to have its own value. Like the altcoins in the market, there have been a bunch of them but for one to have its own value, there should be the valuation process on how it's going to be given how valuable it is and the price of it per share or token. It just sounds easy but it's improbable that someone who's going to make his/her own currency to become successful with it. Do some attempts and you'll never see any window of success on it.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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March 22, 2024, 10:09:16 PM
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I hope the solutions to improve on the welfare of the poor in the society rest on massive production of agricultural crops and other things. The growth and development of any society takes this formula.
The currency options would encounter difficulties and opposition.
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March 23, 2024, 03:41:07 AM
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Poor people are much neglected in the society they are victims of discrimination and injustice towards them. If these are not improved it will never be possible to solve the problems of poor people. Social equality must be provided to eliminate poverty. Must ensure their work according to skill qualification and perfection. Distribution of work according to social status and qualifications will reduce the problems of the poor. Poverty can be eradicated by increasing savings.

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March 23, 2024, 08:55:19 AM
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My people in the province have lands, can sustain themselves fairly well, yet still categorized as poor by the indices proposed by organizations. They don't have much money in the bank, but their lands are worth millions and refuse to sell that because that's what they only know. They can adapt to any changes in the economy, and that's the 'poor' people I aspire to be.

When you increase in the societal ladder in terms of finances, you also increase your expenses which makes it harder for you to fill your 'needs'. These simple people from above do what they do best and are living happy lives because they have food to eat and land to farm on. They don't ask for anything else except good harvest. I guess, if you're self-sustainable, you don't need that much money and can still become 'poor' to the eyes of other people.
Every year the poverty rate increases, due to the lack of employment opportunities and daily costs, namely clothing and food, increasing. In Indonesia itself, if one month's income is only less than $6.85 per day, it is considered poor because it does not meet daily needs. Another cause is that people are pampered with credit from money to family needs such as cars and so on, even though this also causes poverty.

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March 23, 2024, 09:00:18 AM
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This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor poor people you see your goverment don't care, why you use someones money who don't care about you ?
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
And If your poor Community Grow food it means other people out of your Community need your food, so in order to get your Community food they need to obey your Community rules and they need to buy your Community money with rate that's beneficial for you.
Same goes for Europe farmers,stop play around with goverment just issue your own money stronger money and tell them you want our product you buy our currency or you can starve.

If you see someone not good with you then leave their system people only Are poor becouse they go along with the system , nobody not superior of you we all are Humans so If create the our own system then we prosper.

So Communities If you got food everybody out of your Community need food so you issue your own currency and you gain wealth.
And all the Community using this currency nobody poor anymore or problems.

By the time you grow more the less power goverment will have over you.
If you see something not benecifial for you dont use it.

I don't use Banks anymore i told my bank you are scam.
If system does not make you wealthy don't use it.

I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
So they are crooks just becouse the people are use to with something doesnt mean it's honest by nature.

So Communities If you got food you are blessed issue your own money and stop dealing with people who don't benefit you.
If you issue your own money and goverment come to buy with their money you can set your own rate higher so If they don't want then you sell to those who want.
Off course they want becouse everybody need to eat
So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.

There has been and will always be a segment of society that will be classed as "poor" or some sort of bottom rung on the economic ladder. People have also been trying to solve this problem since the beginning of time, it is not a sudden brainwave that only you have had in this moment. Banks are an easy scapegoat but they are not really the problem. It is the politicians of your country who set the rules and allow these certain activities that you deem to be wrong. Banks are just like any other company, trying to make a profit out of a perfectly legitimate activity, at the most basic that is paying interest to savers and charging people who want to borrow money, while also facilitating trade by account holders.

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Poor people are much neglected in the society they are victims of discrimination and injustice towards them. If these are not improved it will never be possible to solve the problems of poor people. Social equality must be provided to eliminate poverty. Must ensure their work according to skill qualification and perfection. Distribution of work according to social status and qualifications will reduce the problems of the poor. Poverty can be eradicated by increasing savings.
In this case, of course, poor people will continue to be victims of injustice and they will also continue to be oppressed by circumstances, so it is important for the government to be able to think about poor people so that they are no longer oppressed, as you mentioned earlier, that with social equality, of course they will be able to helping the condition of the community and giving them the opportunity to learn skills, of course this is one solution and if they can learn it well of course this will provide income from the skills they have and will really help their economy to be better from the previous.
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This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor poor people you see your goverment don't care, why you use someones money who don't care about you ?
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
And If your poor Community Grow food it means other people out of your Community need your food, so in order to get your Community food they need to obey your Community rules and they need to buy your Community money with rate that's beneficial for you.
Same goes for Europe farmers,stop play around with goverment just issue your own money stronger money and tell them you want our product you buy our currency or you can starve.

If you see someone not good with you then leave their system people only Are poor becouse they go along with the system , nobody not superior of you we all are Humans so If create the our own system then we prosper.

So Communities If you got food everybody out of your Community need food so you issue your own currency and you gain wealth.
And all the Community using this currency nobody poor anymore or problems.

By the time you grow more the less power goverment will have over you.
If you see something not benecifial for you dont use it.

I don't use Banks anymore i told my bank you are scam.
If system does not make you wealthy don't use it.

I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
So they are crooks just becouse the people are use to with something doesnt mean it's honest by nature.

So Communities If you got food you are blessed issue your own money and stop dealing with people who don't benefit you.
If you issue your own money and goverment come to buy with their money you can set your own rate higher so If they don't want then you sell to those who want.
Off course they want becouse everybody need to eat
So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.
There is nothing you can do to stop people from being poor, and the existence of poor people isn't that bad, it just balance things out, if you are rich you can help some people if you want, if you over do it, you will also get broke.

The facts about people generally is that we can't all be smart, some people will be more capable than others, some people will have more wills and gut than others, and faith in self is also a part too.

Many poor people don't want to be safe, they don't see themselves as poor, meaning that you can't change what you don't hate, if you hate being poor you can easily avoid being poor, I have had many experiences with this in my life, you see them as poor, they see themselves as divine beings.

About your thoughts on food, that's completely not right, who doesn't have land for farming? Which country lacks loamy soil? Many people plant and reap but is that ever enough? Why hasn't this solved the world problem? No matter what you do, people will be poor and some will be rich, it's left for those who are rich to touch the lives of those who are poor, even if all you can do is change the lives of 2 humans, it's more than enough.

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In this case, of course, poor people will continue to be victims of injustice and they will also continue to be oppressed by circumstances, so it is important for the government to be able to think about poor people so that they are no longer oppressed, as you mentioned earlier, that with social equality, of course they will be able to helping the condition of the community and giving them the opportunity to learn skills, of course this is one solution and if they can learn it well of course this will provide income from the skills they have and will really help their economy to be better from the previous.

It's pretty hard to leave a victim role.
The good thing is that being used to do something is not set in stone, behavior can change once it must.
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If the poor people need solutions, that means even the rich need solutions to their financial or business problems, right?
But of course poor people face more problems compared to rich people; that's obvious, and there's no need to ask honestly.

That's why poor people should be more strategic so that they can solve their problems immediately and prevent them.
Then the masses should also know the program that their government has for the poor to help them in their circumstances.




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If the poor people need solutions, that means even the rich need solutions to their financial or business problems, right?
But of course poor people face more problems compared to rich people; that's obvious, and there's no need to ask honestly.

That's why poor people should be more strategic so that they can solve their problems immediately and prevent them.
Then the masses should also know the program that their government has for the poor to help them in their circumstances.

That makes sense, because even though they are rich doesn't mean they don't have problems, and maybe the problems occur in other things apart from finances, such as relationships. As far as I know, rich people usually have sufficient and stable finances, but they don't have good family relationships, sometimes they have problems with their family relationships being less than harmonious, because there are people who only focus on their careers so they don't have time to get together, if at all. There is free time, sometimes I prefer to use it to rest. and of course, if rich people have a business, they might have problems in their business as you said, because it is impossible for the business they run to continue to run well, there is a small possibility that there will be problems.

The main problem of poor people is of course finances, they definitely have problems, the main one being unstable finances. and to overcome this of course they have to earn money by working to improve their financial situation, because if not them then who will?
However, in my opinion, there are many people who are still lacking financially and economically, maybe because it is difficult to find work or maybe they don't have the desire to work and improve their family finances, but if that's the case, I think it's serious, because of course everyone wants financial freedom, so they have to fix it myself.

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If you see someone not good with you then leave their system people only Are poor becouse they go along with the system , nobody not superior of you we all are Humans so If create the our own system then we prosper.
In all your explanations this is where i got a point. I agree with you on this aspect of poor people continue thesame system. The reason why most people are poor is because there mind is sticked to what they know, and may never try to explore new things. The poor thinks the rich are born to be rich why the poor are also born to be poor not knowing that the rich makes use of opportunity given to them and utilize it. But the poor always have double though and keep procrastinating and see things in awkward ways becoming jealous of other people success instead of making a move by taking a bold step. Most at time the fear of failure is the reason behind not achieve greater things. Sometimes your mind keeps telling you you can't do it. And you feel it's difficult, but when you make a move at first, it may look discouraging but after several attempts you discover that you where the one who was delaying yourself. I have been in that state before and I know how it feels to see other people above you yet you can't be like them. But one other thing is that rich men don't sleep like poor men. They do more research and strategies on how to grow in wisdom and succeed in there endeavours.

Many poor people are unproductive, or should I just say their perception of things, especially when it comes to how to get rich, because most of the time they are the ones that always claim to have money but they have nothing, and I can admit that some poor people are the laziest people in the universe. When I say lazy, I don’t mean they are not working, but they are sometimes not working smartly. 

A rich man will never pray to earn a salary but rather create a space where he will employ some workers to pay them a salary, which is what is explained as working smart. A poor man will always have a dream to start working under someone else and get that salary, but if you take a deep look into salary, you will know that it is just a scheme that will keep putting you in debt for the period of your working at a particular organisation or working place. If you become the one who provides jobs for others just to pay them and you get more than what they will be paid as workers to pay them salary, which is what is explained as working smart, A poor man will always have a dream to start working under someone else and get that salary, but if you take a deep look into salary, you will know that it is just a scheme that will keep putting you in debt for the period of your working at a particular organization or working place. If you become the one who provides jobs for others just to pay them and you get more than what they will be paid as a worker, it will continue to bring you profit for the period that the business is no longer active. 

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The solution the poor need is changing their mindset and start becoming productive. If the agriculture you explain is a starting point I guest they should explore in which ever way they can do better.

Involvement in agriculture is not just for the poor but for all, both the poor and the rich, because presently, it is mostly the rich that benefit from agriculture because they have the mind to take risks, whereas if a poor man takes a risk, it is better for them to eat food. But being creative will go a long way towards reducing the rate of poverty in society because what you create is like a job opportunity to give others space for happiness. 

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Often poor people like to be poor.  They are given a chance - for example, a big lottery win - but they spend it all without investing anything in the possibility of a steady income. They buy villas, cars, furniture in huge quantities, without thinking that they have to maintain it all. In the end, the money runs out - and the balance sheet is a pile of illiquid. They sell the rest for pennies, which they also spend. Poverty is often a psychological problem

That is true. Most of the poor people are uneducated which is why they do not have any idea how to invest their small money. An educated person knows about how to invest his/her little money or savings into a business. On the other hand, poor people who don't have any knowledge about business or investment, can't make money. So education plays a vital role in anyone's financial literacy and his investment knowledge. to manage your finances you must have your own knowledge of what you are doing, you can't depend on others and can't copy others in financial issues.



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