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February 10, 2024, 06:34:10 PM
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There is no way everybody in the country can live well without no poor people in the society because everybody has his or her own desire at the moment and for you to reduce such issues to allow the people to feel the positive side of the economic, is to invest more on agriculture, industries, roads and institution which are some of the things people are lacking these days.

Once there is a surplus industries in the world, it will definitely reduce poor people in the world because those industries will be accommodating numbers of people in the world to eliminate poverty for people to live a good live.
poor people can not be eradicated, because even all the complaints tabled towards the government can not be solved, because the issue of people started ages ago and till now we still have them and a good percentage of people in my own country, and I always think that most of the poor people are comfortable with there situation if not because of that, they would have looked for something to do. there are times when the government has shared motorcycles and even farm machinery and people will end up selling them, so who is to be blamed that is why some of them are still in their condition. even if all industries are built some people are just lazy and will not want to work, people that don't like their condition will look for a way out of that condition.

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February 10, 2024, 06:40:30 PM
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And who should be the solution giver on the poor when everyone is quite busy on his own, we should begin to start with the eradication of the mentality of being dependent on other people or the government for our success, we have to take the responsibility for ourselves and start to tryout new things, we should work on our personal self, create time to discover more about ourselves, build a career profile or learn any valuable skill or trade to help us have something to offer that could get us earnings.
We need to realize from the beginning that we live in a harsh world and there needs to be survival if we want to survive because even though it sounds harsh but the law of the jungle system where the strongest is the one who survives is true only we don't really bring it up because it will be considered a complicated situation but in fact in the application in life this is true where we live based on caste and humans are classified into several economic strata.
I have read history books and I discovered that life was not as bad as it is now. People were not as selfish and greedy as they are now. In those days people were more companionate and considered others but now things have changed and life is now the survival of the fittest. And this new pattern of life has led to an increase in the gap between the rich and poor. The poor have to take responsibility and ensure that they work hard to survive in this jungle-like world.

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But on the other hand this is also for the sake of maintaining the stabilization of the world so that it runs well because if everyone becomes rich then in the end no one wants to work and this will actually break the natural chain that should be well maintained.
Even though it will indeed feel unfair when we live below the poverty line but in the end it is a scheme that cannot be changed because if there are rich then there will definitely be poor but that does not mean we cannot change that destiny it's just that it will be very difficult to do if we do not have any strength in terms of finance and inadequate relationships then in the end we will continue to struggle in the cycle of poverty that occurs.
The world will always have the poor and the rich but the gap between them shouldn't be too much. At least the poor should be able to afford basic needs without too much struggle. In some developed nations majority of citizens have access to what they need to survive. But it breaks my heart when I see the suffering and poverty in developing nations. Coming out from the poverty line is not easy but one has to fight to come out.

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February 10, 2024, 09:51:42 PM
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A man's personal life can be managed only with as much money as is needed to manage it. When you are poor society will not appreciate you. So I have to fight all these battles to live a happy life and meet the financial needs of the family. Trying to grow fruits from the land made me tough because they are not easy jobs at all. As the amount of money increases, the scale of respect associated with it will increase more in this society.
Poor will remain poor if they didn’t start working to reach their goals and dreams.
There’s a lot of opportunities out there and most of the time you just need to grab it and make the best out of it. Being poor is not easy at all, and yes you can’t get the respect of others if you will remain poor and don’t have any contribution to the society. Don’t let those people stop you from dreaming, continue doing good and do your best, time will come that you can at least improve your standard of living.

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February 10, 2024, 10:13:29 PM
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Often poor people like to be poor.  They are given a chance - for example, a big lottery win - but they spend it all without investing anything in the possibility of a steady income. They buy villas, cars, furniture in huge quantities, without thinking that they have to maintain it all. In the end, the money runs out - and the balance sheet is a pile of illiquid. They sell the rest for pennies, which they also spend. Poverty is often a psychological problem
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February 10, 2024, 10:58:22 PM
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Of course we don't want to see poverty anywhere in the world. When I see poor people, an impulse of shame stirs in and around my heart. However, we should know that the wealth of nations grows when governments intervene least in the market. The only way to eliminate poverty is to implement economic policies that prioritize market dynamism. ...Or, as the OP mentions, it might be a good idea to create a free market with supply under a fixed common value. :)

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February 10, 2024, 11:18:44 PM
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This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor poor people you see your goverment don't care, why you use someones money who don't care about you ?
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
And If your poor Community Grow food it means other people out of your Community need your food, so in order to get your Community food they need to obey your Community rules and they need to buy your Community money with rate that's beneficial for you.

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February 10, 2024, 11:47:50 PM
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Often poor people like to be poor.  They are given a chance - for example, a big lottery win - but they spend it all without investing anything in the possibility of a steady income.

Poverty is a mentality, giving a poor man handout won't solve his problem, they need to be enlighten and taught how to be rich minded. A poor man being given money will still mismanage that money and will be back in the street begging for bread to eat the very next day. Poor people need to help themselves and not waiting for someone to rescue them from their poverty. If they're not willing to do things that'll contributions to eliminating their poverty then all your efforts will be waste of effort trying to help them.

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They buy villas, cars, furniture in huge quantities, without thinking that they have to maintain it all. In the end, the money runs out - and the balance sheet is a pile of illiquid. They sell the rest for pennies, which they also spend. Poverty is often a psychological problem

Poor people don't just need solutions because solution like charity does no good to a poor man, teach them how to create wealth. Poor people are brainwashed to wait on help instead of them to help themselves from the predicament they're in. The more we keep helping poor people in the society by giving them easy way out, the more we're encouraging others to be lazy and poor. The world isn't for the weak so if we want to live the life of the rich, we have to work first.

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February 10, 2024, 11:58:46 PM
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We're live in zero sum games, so it means when there's a rich people, there's also the poor ones. You can't make every poor people to rank up to middle class, when it happens the country's standard will increase and the current "middle class people" might still "the poor" according to their new standards.

Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
Good initiative, the police will catch you because you're issuing your own currency when your government didn't accept your currency as legal tender.

I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
It's stupid, you need to buy their stock instead of holding fiat.
You're right on the money with some of these pointers. Especially those that has to do with the fact that OP thinks he can just issue economic changes like that out of the blue like dude you're not gonna change the market for the better for issuing Schrutebucks or Stanley Nickels let's be real here.

And while the poor people definitely deserve some break from their lives it's not gonna be up to the government to make them rich people. Let that sink in. We live in a capitalistic society where the government will give you just enough leniency to discover the next best thing since sliced bread and the rest is gonna be up to you. You can't expect your national government to just give you a wad of money and a thank you card. That's a massive recipe for disaster. They did that in the US during the pandemic and even now when most countries have recovered they still couldn't pay their shit. Imagine how it would go even if they do that as a staple provision to the poor people. The world's economy's gonna be in shambles my friend.

The poor people deserve better treatment and solutions to their hierarchal problems, that's true. and if I may I gotta say they are getting the short end of the stick all this time with the fact that they are abused by the upperclass despite the fact that they comprise the entire blue-collar sector. But it's not gonna be through what OP thinks. Those are fucking illegal.

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February 11, 2024, 05:55:16 AM
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This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor poor people you see your goverment don't care, why you use someones money who don't care about you ?
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
And If your poor Community Grow food it means other people out of your Community need your food, so in order to get your Community food they need to obey your Community rules and they need to buy your Community money with rate that's beneficial for you.

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How exactly are you going to create a form of money that spoils in a matter of weeks or months? One of the most basic characteristics of money is that it has to be durable, not only that you want for people to create a whole new economic system for themselves, when they could just sell their produce, earn fiat this way and be done with it, remember when given the choice people will pick the easiest solution available to them, and what you are suggesting is too complex for them to implement, without mentioning that it is probably illegal in most countries around the world.
Everyone will certainly not choose a form of money that can only last a few weeks or months, because most people will collect their money so they can save for their future and this is not possible if the money cannot last long, of course people will look for it. a solution that can make it easier for them, not even make it difficult for them if they use the new system and this of course will not be implemented well, because there are too many losses that might be obtained from the new system.
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February 11, 2024, 08:36:28 AM
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This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor poor people you see your goverment don't care, why you use someones money who don't care about you ?
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
And If your poor Community Grow food it means other people out of your Community need your food, so in order to get your Community food they need to obey your Community rules and they need to buy your Community money with rate that's beneficial for you.

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How exactly are you going to create a form of money that spoils in a matter of weeks or months? One of the most basic characteristics of money is that it has to be durable, not only that you want for people to create a whole new economic system for themselves, when they could just sell their produce, earn fiat this way and be done with it, remember when given the choice people will pick the easiest solution available to them, and what you are suggesting is too complex for them to implement, without mentioning that it is probably illegal in most countries around the world.
If you look at everything that has happened, the system is only made for those who have the skills needed by the market so they will get a decent life because all systems whether from money or economics that become a person's selling point are their abilities, in any system that is created if someone is able to adapt and have skills then he will become a person who gets a prosperous life.

Logically, whatever system is created that feels better in one's view and knows there is a new system in finance or economics in the future if we do not have the skills needed by the future market according to the system that is created later then we will remain poor. The crude language is that no one who has a decent life they do not have the ability in life.IMO

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Often poor people like to be poor.  They are given a chance - for example, a big lottery win - but they spend it all without investing anything in the possibility of a steady income. They buy villas, cars, furniture in huge quantities, without thinking that they have to maintain it all. In the end, the money runs out - and the balance sheet is a pile of illiquid. They sell the rest for pennies, which they also spend. Poverty is often a psychological problem
Poor people don't like to be poor, that's why they use all of their money to buy anything that they likes to impress other people. Actually rich people are like to be poor because when they're in progress to build their wealth, they're need to limit their spending and use most of their money for investment.

Poor people don't like to be poor, but their mindset makes them to stay poor.
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Truthfully poor people need solution but not all solution can work for a poor people because poverty is a psychological problem, that is why you see our nation even with all the resources we still see our self as poor nation and under develop. Example look at the level of money other nations do give us to enhance our development but nothing works because the psychological issue is not settled until once mentality is change no solution can be adopted by such person. Poverty  start from the heart any man who heart is afraid to take risk when necessary is already poor because it can't go beyond the level if poverty, there no solution or help can work until the mentality or psychological problem is solved by conquering the fear and taking bold step. Not all solution to a poor person is solution, solution of dashing money to a poor man is like enhancing the status of poverty not actually a solution.

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Often poor people like to be poor.  They are given a chance - for example, a big lottery win - but they spend it all without investing anything in the possibility of a steady income. They buy villas, cars, furniture in huge quantities, without thinking that they have to maintain it all. In the end, the money runs out - and the balance sheet is a pile of illiquid. They sell the rest for pennies, which they also spend. Poverty is often a psychological problem
Poor people don't like to be poor, that's why they use all of their money to buy anything that they likes to impress other people. Actually rich people are like to be poor because when they're in progress to build their wealth, they're need to limit their spending and use most of their money for investment.

Poor people don't like to be poor, but their mindset makes them to stay poor.
That is because it's often a rare occurrence for the poor to have money. When they do come into possession of money, they may not know how to handle it properly. They tend to spend it on unnecessary things that they've never been able to afford before, rather than investing it. This is because they lack knowledge and experience in making financial decisions.

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Often poor people like to be poor.  They are given a chance - for example, a big lottery win - but they spend it all without investing anything in the possibility of a steady income. They buy villas, cars, furniture in huge quantities, without thinking that they have to maintain it all. In the end, the money runs out - and the balance sheet is a pile of illiquid. They sell the rest for pennies, which they also spend. Poverty is often a psychological problem
Poor people don't like to be poor, that's why they use all of their money to buy anything that they likes to impress other people. Actually rich people are like to be poor because when they're in progress to build their wealth, they're need to limit their spending and use most of their money for investment.

Poor people don't like to be poor, but their mindset makes them to stay poor.
That is because it's often a rare occurrence for the poor to have money. When they do come into possession of money, they may not know how to handle it properly. They tend to spend it on unnecessary things that they've never been able to afford before, rather than investing it. This is because they lack knowledge and experience in making financial decisions.

Yep, poor people never have much money so they don't know how to manage it. What most people call as poor mentality happened because the system make financial education not easily accessible by poor people, it's not their intention to have poor mentality. And they will gladly and passionately learning about money management when they have the chance. Most people would judge poor people choose to be poor, those judgemental people never want to learn the background of those poor people.

Sure, some poor person might move up the chain with their own power but that's one in a million, most of them will be stay poor no matter how they try to fix their life because the system are surpressing them to stay poor, that's what is called as structural poverty.

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The plans we make for those who are poor don't actually work out. All the farmers in the world should be given the most respect but we don't want to give them respect while we forget that they are producing crops that we can eat. Where the financial position of the farmer is supposed to be good, the position of the poor farmers is not at all good. The general public talks a lot about the farmers in front of the media but they do not see the farmers in a good light. People who are poor don't want to stay poor forever but they don't have much chance to get out of poverty. There is a section of people who have assumed that the children of the poor will be poor and the children of farmers will be farmers. We never go and help them ourselves but we talk about them from a distance. We should help them be it by giving them the right respect or by giving them the right price for the product.
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The world will always have the poor and the rich but the gap between them shouldn't be too much. At least the poor should be able to afford basic needs without too much struggle. In some developed nations majority of citizens have access to what they need to survive. But it breaks my heart when I see the suffering and poverty in developing nations. Coming out from the poverty line is not easy but one has to fight to come out.

You are right. We cannot hope for a utopian world where there is no longer any poverty in the world. It was too good to be true. After all, if everyone became rich, how would the world run? If everyone was in business who would be the employees?

I think poor people and rich people will still exist. Just like you said. However, there should not be a gap that is too big. For example, every poor person can get easy access to health and education. The government can help provide/subsidize basic needs such as food, health and education so that poor people do not have to struggle to survive. Some rich countries can do this, but there are still many developing countries where poor people have to struggle to survive.


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What are you trying to suggest? Are you for real with what you're talking about? It's good with the suggestion to grow your own food but that's a common thing that a normal person does, whether he's rich or poor. It's everyone man's dream to have his own food to grow in his backyard. But with your suggestion of leaving the government and making your own currency. What are you up to? Do you think that you can have your own country by doing that? It's not a solution for you to tell but LOL I don't know why we're taking it seriously.

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That is because it's often a rare occurrence for the poor to have money. When they do come into possession of money, they may not know how to handle it properly. They tend to spend it on unnecessary things that they've never been able to afford before, rather than investing it. This is because they lack knowledge and experience in making financial decisions.
I have also come across poor people who have traits like that, but poor people are generally like that. There are definitely some of them who are smart at managing their finances even though they themselves rarely hold large amounts of money so they are not used to using money for important things. However, we also need to know that at this time not all poor people are stupid when it comes to using money, because a small number of them also know how to manage money well and spend it on important things without any obstacles.

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So Communities If you got food you are blessed issue your own money and stop dealing with people who don't benefit you.
If you issue your own money and goverment come to buy with their money you can set your own rate higher so If they don't want then you sell to those who want.
Off course they want becouse everybody need to eat
So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.

It makes a lot of sense for smaller communities to trade locally and first satisfy their needs with local products instead of buying from large corporations that produce in very far away. If the farmers have a direct connection to the customer it saves a lot for the farmer, he would otherwise have to pay to a middle man for transportation and selling. The best would be to trade directly for other products so you don't have to use money at all, switching now to your own money could lead to a lot of problems. The government will likely not accept citizens just having their own money, because every sale and transaction requires to pay taxes. How would the taxes be paid if people only have their own money? The government wouldn't except anything else than their own fiat money. This could likely lead to legal problems and people would be scarred to use your own money.
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February 11, 2024, 07:07:42 PM
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This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Yes, the system is always not created to favor the needs of the common but who is going to create the community money backed by food and fruits?
Besides, if you want the concept of Bitcoin this was the exact reason BTC was created by Satoshi and most of the poor people that joined early are now millionaires.

Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor
Food is not what solves the problem of financial status per se but it can solve the hunger issue and provide an opportunity.

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