Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling?

[Odusko]

There is no need to think too much about this, maturity is knowing that Bitcoin is better than gold, respecting the criteria of the people who defend gold, I think that Bitcoin has surpassed it by far, gold is backed by global economies that are falling, well supposedly they will fall, now with Donald Trump things will be different.

Gold received such recognition because gold is a traditional old investment and the sentiment with gold being a precious item have always been there and gave be clouded the thoughts of many of those traditional investors, most especially the older forks who have already spent their working age, the tens to believe more in gold because if safety of their investments.

But the younger youths and tech enthusiasts have made Bitcoin as their preferred choice, and this have made a lot difference in terms of experience, profits and freedom if you compare Bitcoin to gold and how their investor/holder's feel about the both of them., even more especially now that United states have pro Bitcoin president.

Market indices will point to rising, but Bitcoin will continue to rise whether the economy falls or falls, because many will want to protect their money in what is worth it and what is worth it is Bitcoin.

Bitcoin has done incredibly well in terms of price and regardless of the economic conditions in the global scene, it will not have a direct impact on Bitcoin and yet Bitcoin will continue to rise in an unexplainable way

[boyptc]

The only time that it will discourage them and make them lose interest is when their account that’s being restricted or banned has balance in them - that’s the only time they’ll start losing interest but if it just a zero balance account it won’t do shit to them.

Yeah, if the account has nothing in it the casino can do everything it wanna do. Because no matter how it goes, there's always some other casino where they can play.

But if it has a huge and sums of balance, then the user will do whatever it can to fight for its money to take it back and allow it to be withdrawn, this is the reason why many doesn't seem to take any casino seriously until they get attached to it and start to have some good experience from the casino itself.

Customer service, fast withdrawals, these make someone who become butthurt when they like the casino but then because of their malicious activities, gets banned or account freeze.

[TheUltraElite]

They usually block IPs and some more things, trade secret of casinos I guess, if they want a self exclusion.

However it is just like any other "ban" - like asking someone to lock you up because you are committing a crime all the well knowing how to open the lock yourself. Casinos know this and they started it only because some people accused casinos of promoting gambling addiction, so they appear as to doing their part in preventing it.

So yeah, it never stop irresponsible gambling, that is the job of the gambler to stop, not the casino.

[Dewi Aries]

They usually block IPs and some more things, trade secret of casinos I guess, if they want a self exclusion.

However it is just like any other "ban" - like asking someone to lock you up because you are committing a crime all the well knowing how to open the lock yourself. Casinos know this and they started it only because some people accused casinos of promoting gambling addiction, so they appear as to doing their part in preventing it.

So yeah, it never stop irresponsible gambling, that is the job of the gambler to stop, not the casino.

Yes I agree with you, the point is the irresponsible gambling scenario will never end, as long as casinos exist and as long as they are open to the public then irresponsible gambling or impulsive gambling involvement will continue to exist, as you said this is not the casino's job but the gamblers' job which depends on the gamblers' awareness. On the other hand, I am actually not sure that all casinos will implement such a rule, because usually casinos will not care about anything experienced by gamblers, the point is as long as gamblers come with money then the casino will treat them like respected guests, because only with the presence of gamblers will the casino continue to make a profit, and simply put the more irresponsible gamblers there are the greater the casino's profits will be.

[retreat]

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So yeah, it never stop irresponsible gambling, that is the job of the gambler to stop, not the casino.

The responsibility to stop gambling is entirely up to the gambler, no matter how the casino freezes or bans the user's account, if they still want to gamble then they can gamble whenever they want. And therefore self-control for gambling is something that is needed by gamblers, because if they want to stop gambling or want to reduce their activities then it is entirely their responsibility, not the casino or their closest people.

[Silberman]

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So yeah, it never stop irresponsible gambling, that is the job of the gambler to stop, not the casino.

The responsibility to stop gambling is entirely up to the gambler, no matter how the casino freezes or bans the user's account, if they still want to gamble then they can gamble whenever they want. And therefore self-control for gambling is something that is needed by gamblers, because if they want to stop gambling or want to reduce their activities then it is entirely their responsibility, not the casino or their closest people.

Recently I have seen an attempt to switch that responsibility towards casinos and I think it is simply nonsense, each person decides what to do with their money, if we allow a third party to take those decisions for us then we become nothing more but grown up children, but it seems that is exactly what governments want as that would give them control over our money, however I hope we will not get to this point, as there is also a lot of people like us that do not want for this to happen.

[Su-asa]

Few months ago I was really addicted to aviator crash games on 1x bet and it was really bad to the point that I lost a lot of money, then I decided to block my account permanently hoping that I wouldn't go back into it, after a couple of days I gave into the temptation and I opened a new account and I went back to square one. Freezing a gamblers account can't curb irresponsible gambling because it's a thing of the mind. The gambler must learn discipline and self-control in order to limit his engagements in it otherwise this is just going to be a complete waste of time.

[Fortify]

If suddenly you went on a binge-gambling out of a lack of self-control or something else. For example, you deposit money in rapid succession after a series of losses and the casino management freezes your account. And when you call their customer support, they tell you that your account has been frozen for 3 weeks and the reason why they carried out that measure was because they suspected that you were gambling irresponsibly and decided to take that measure so that you can call yourself back to order, will you feel furious, cuss out, sign out of your account and register on another casino and continue betting. Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling or betting addiction?

It can help to make a small dent, but unless someone really wants to quit gambling and the freezing coincides with that - it's not going to achieve much really. There are hundreds, if not thousands of different gambling sites out there and they will all accept a gambler that is being rejected from one site for any reason. A responsible casino should be monitoring and detecting suspicious increases in gambling, but it is completely counterintuitive to their requirement to work in the best interests of their shareholders, which is often purely focused on increasing profits for the company. There is a trade off to be had with bad publicity, but in the world of gambling it takes a lot to tarnish a brand.

[taufik123]

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On the other hand, I am actually not sure that all casinos will implement such a rule, because usually casinos will not care about anything experienced by gamblers, the point is as long as gamblers come with money then the casino will treat them like respected guests, because only with the presence of gamblers will the casino continue to make a profit, and simply put the more irresponsible gamblers there are the greater the casino's profits will be.

Actually, we can see how online casinos with high reputations keep their names good by giving them early guidance so that they know that online casinos have high risks and lose more money.

They have created a ToS that can be read by new casino users, so their responsibilities have been fulfilled with some of these warnings,
but gamblers who are brutal and don't think about the risk, will just log in and then lose everything.

Casinos certainly don't care whether their players lose or win because from those transactions the casino is built and survives.

[TheUltraElite]

Casinos certainly don't care whether their players lose or win because from those transactions the casino is built and survives.

Its just like when cigarette companies put up a "smoking causes cancer" banner on their packs but still dont stop selling the product. I mean why would they? They are good money from the sales and it only seems morally correct for them to give out a warning to the consumers, the decision to stop the habit is the consumer's only.

Similarly, in gambling, the casinos want to stay in the clear, nobody can accuse them for forcing people to gamble - which is a twisted argument itself probably made by woke type people and not level headed ones.

[Ricardo11]

They usually block IPs and some more things, trade secret of casinos I guess, if they want a self exclusion.

However it is just like any other "ban" - like asking someone to lock you up because you are committing a crime all the well knowing how to open the lock yourself. Casinos know this and they started it only because some people accused casinos of promoting gambling addiction, so they appear as to doing their part in preventing it.

So yeah, it never stop irresponsible gambling, that is the job of the gambler to stop, not the casino.

I agree with you, if an addicted gambler doesn't want to get out of gambling addiction, no system can get him out of that addiction. Casinos fulfill their social responsibilities, but if gamblers avoid every rule and gamble uncontrollably, then it is not possible to stop gambling. Self-control is the most important thing. You are right, stopping gambling is the job of each gambler, not the casino.

[Zadicar]

They usually block IPs and some more things, trade secret of casinos I guess, if they want a self exclusion.

However it is just like any other "ban" - like asking someone to lock you up because you are committing a crime all the well knowing how to open the lock yourself. Casinos know this and they started it only because some people accused casinos of promoting gambling addiction, so they appear as to doing their part in preventing it.

So yeah, it never stop irresponsible gambling, that is the job of the gambler to stop, not the casino.

I agree with you, if an addicted gambler doesn't want to get out of gambling addiction, no system can get him out of that addiction. Casinos fulfill their social responsibilities, but if gamblers avoid every rule and gamble uncontrollably, then it is not possible to stop gambling. Self-control is the most important thing. You are right, stopping gambling is the job of each gambler, not the casino.

There's nothing that can stop a particular gambler on playing on which it will really be just that entirely be depending on his mind whether he would be quitting or stopping, even if the site will really be having those kind of locking but of course its really that be allowed if its really having that consent by the gambler and not really just that locking out of the blue or having no valid reason on such thing.
Just like on what others been saying that it doesnt really matter about locking and anything because if you arent that tending to quit gambling then you will really be just that basically be
playing again and again and this is something that what makes gambling business so profitable because of this very common gambler behavior.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Casinos certainly don't care whether their players lose or win because from those transactions the casino is built and survives.

Its just like when cigarette companies put up a "smoking causes cancer" banner on their packs but still dont stop selling the product. I mean why would they? They are good money from the sales and it only seems morally correct for them to give out a warning to the consumers, the decision to stop the habit is the consumer's only.

Similarly, in gambling, the casinos want to stay in the clear, nobody can accuse them for forcing people to gamble - which is a twisted argument itself probably made by woke type people and not level headed ones.

First, you should try to find out if the cigarettes companies actually (on their own) decided to put out such warning on the pack of their products, the answer is no, that warning was what they government commanded them to do, possibly after there have been many reports from prominent doctors to the government of several people dying from tuberculosis and there lung issues, the government also making alot of money from the cigarette companies in the form of licenses, tax and other means, can not outrightly ban the production of cigarettes, but rather, they mandated the cigarettes companies to always boldly put up such warning in the pack of their products, atleast, to make people aware of the effect of their smoking habit, so it's up to the people smoking to decide to stop or continue, but fortunate enough for the cigarettes companies, most people have ignored that warning and continued to smoke till date, which have helped the cigarettes companies to continue to be in business even till this day.

The above is not related to gambling except we are to compare that to casinos and how they preach responsible gambling, just thought you should know that...

[Dewi Aries]

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On the other hand, I am actually not sure that all casinos will implement such a rule, because usually casinos will not care about anything experienced by gamblers, the point is as long as gamblers come with money then the casino will treat them like respected guests, because only with the presence of gamblers will the casino continue to make a profit, and simply put the more irresponsible gamblers there are the greater the casino's profits will be.

Actually, we can see how online casinos with high reputations keep their names good by giving them early guidance so that they know that online casinos have high risks and lose more money.

They have created a ToS that can be read by new casino users, so their responsibilities have been fulfilled with some of these warnings,
but gamblers who are brutal and don't think about the risk, will just log in and then lose everything.

Casinos certainly don't care whether their players lose or win because from those transactions the casino is built and survives.

Talking about reputable casinos, maybe what you said is true, what I mean is that there is a big possibility for casinos to implement such rules and announcements in the ToS section in order to maintain their good name, and maybe what I said above is more directed at disreputable casinos that really don't think about the safety of gamblers and only think about their profits, with that I understand that it is true that in any industry the company must maintain their quality and good name so that their business continues to run smoothly.

On the other hand, there are always some gamblers who do not care about anything announced by the casino, we will always find such gamblers especially those who are really obsessed with winning, but with the casino's actions informing all gamblers there by informing them that the risk in gambling is very high, then at least it has made the casino free from responsibility when its gamblers experience any downturn because they have previously informed them, but on the other hand I also do not see any reason for the casino to completely ban gamblers because after all, as I said before, the point is they get profit from the gamblers who come.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Someone who is addicted to gambling will experience many bad impacts which can affect other people around them, with them being addicted of course they have to undergo better changes such as getting out of there to see many other things outside if gambling is not something that can make them get a steady income or even make them get rich in just a short time, although this may happen but the chances of it happening are very small.
And for someone who is already addicted, it will not be easy for them to stop even if the account they have is frozen or blocked but they will not run out of ways to return to gambling, they will definitely return to gambling with one way is to create a new account or indeed look for a new casino. Awareness is the key to being able to minimize addiction that has occurred but addiction itself is not easy to happen so it is difficult to get out when you are trapped in a cycle of addiction.

The truth is you are right, being addicted brings many negative impacts, but the fact of blocking your main account is already an indication that you want to improve, and that you want to get out of it, it is a fact that you can create an account and play, but that already requires an effort, every day an addicted person has to have more willpower, if you do something like that you will see that all the progress you had will be thrown back and you will have to go back to steel, and when you realize that all the previous effort was not worth it you will not want to fail anymore, that is something psychological, it depends on yourself as a person whether you want to get out or not, because first of all the addicted person must help themselves.

[TopT3ns]

They usually block IPs and some more things, trade secret of casinos I guess, if they want a self exclusion.

However it is just like any other "ban" - like asking someone to lock you up because you are committing a crime all the well knowing how to open the lock yourself. Casinos know this and they started it only because some people accused casinos of promoting gambling addiction, so they appear as to doing their part in preventing it.

So yeah, it never stop irresponsible gambling, that is the job of the gambler to stop, not the casino.

I agree with you, if an addicted gambler doesn't want to get out of gambling addiction, no system can get him out of that addiction. Casinos fulfill their social responsibilities, but if gamblers avoid every rule and gamble uncontrollably, then it is not possible to stop gambling. Self-control is the most important thing. You are right, stopping gambling is the job of each gambler, not the casino.

Gambling addiction is indeed something where indeed there is no possible way of changing if your inclination from within your self is not well set. While there are all sorts of rules and systems in place to assist, the whole effort will be for naught if we search for ways to stay out of it. In my experience, I’ve found that one of the first and most important steps in the process of change is understanding just how much this habit harms everyone involved.

Powers suggests that the process of preventing themselves from being controlled by gambling starts with drawing personal as well as caring for with the help of friends and/ or relatives. It is also possible to join a group of people who support people willing to quit this vice as well. By cooperation and self engagement, one can surely free himself of gambling addiction.

[promise444c5]

The only time that it will discourage them and make them lose interest is when their account that’s being restricted or banned has balance in them - that’s the only time they’ll start losing interest but if it just a zero balance account it won’t do shit to them.

Yeah, if the account has nothing in it the casino can do everything it wanna do. Because no matter how it goes, there's always some other casino where they can play.

But if it has a huge and sums of balance, then the user will do whatever it can to fight for its money to take it back and allow it to be withdrawn,

Casino has no business with the "gambling responsibly" thingy infact they would really love you not to gamble responsibly as they wouldhave more profit,  they are only after profit so either you gamble responsibly  or not the don't give a fack... Although all casino will always warn you to gamble responsibly, even most advert does that so it depends on individual to take the right decision.
Besides, no casino will ban or restrict  access to your account just because you didn't gamble responsibly (you're the only one that can determine that ) , only when you go against their rules and regulations  which most casino makes it known to you before even registering unless it’s a shrewd casino.

[LogitechMouse]

Re: Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling?

No.
You can request to a gambling website to freeze, ban, or even delete your account as a gambler but there are many online gambling websites out there still. Even you freeze a gambler's account, the urge is still there. The addiction is still there and one gambling advertisement that he/she sees online might trigger his gambling addiction again, hence, find a gambling website where he/she can gamble again. It's not the responsibility of the gambling owners, but it's the gambler themselves.

Well, there might be some websites that will give you a warning first before doing the thing, but the problem is that gamblers particularly addicted ones doesn't even read those warnings and instead, go and gamble ALL of their money, and if they lost, THEY'LL BLAME THE ONLINE CASINO which for me is just stupid (sorry for the word).

Overall, banning or freezing an addicted gambler's account doesn't help towards him and his addiction towards gambling. With how easy for somebody to access it, it's only a matter of time until the gambler finds a gambling site, and gamble on it again.

[Accardo]

Casino has no business with the "gambling responsibly" thingy infact they would really love you not to gamble responsibly as they wouldhave more profit,  they are only after profit so either you gamble responsibly  or not the don't give a fack... Although all casino will always warn you to gamble responsibly, even most advert does that so it depends on individual to take the right decision.
Besides, no casino will ban or restrict  access to your account just because you didn't gamble responsibly (you're the only one that can determine that ) , only when you go against their rules and regulations  which most casino makes it known to you before even registering unless it’s a shrewd casino.

While I read, in the past, the TOS of some casinos, there is a line that states about irresponsible gamblers or addicts not welcomed to use the casino. A time they'll go further to ensure the player doesn't play in other online gaming platforms. I do not know how effective this is presently, due to the rate at which gamblers can bypass such restrictions. But, it's a great move for the safety of players, also casinos, some, do care for the irresponsible gamblers. At least, they'll need to get better before playing again.

[taufik123]

On the other hand, there are always some gamblers who do not care about anything announced by the casino, we will always find such gamblers especially those who are really obsessed with winning,

There will always be and even more amateur gamblers who come just to play in the hope of getting big wins without knowing the rules and what risks will happen,
even more than gamblers who really understand and understand how the casino works.

but on the other hand I also do not see any reason for the casino to completely ban gamblers because after all, as I said before, the point is they get profit from the gamblers who come.

Casinos will be very happy with the arrival of many new members and the money they deposit,
because the biggest income they get is from new people who don't understand and try continuously but fail so that they lose money in every game.

Sometimes there are also crazy rich people who play at new casinos and make big deposits and just lose.

While I read, in the past, the TOS of some casinos, there is a line that states about irresponsible gamblers or addicts not welcomed to use the casino. A time they'll go further to ensure the player doesn't play in other online gaming platforms. I do not know how effective this is presently, due to the rate at which gamblers can bypass such restrictions. But, it's a great move for the safety of players, also casinos, some, do care for the irresponsible gamblers. At least, they'll need to get better before playing again.

You know it's just a warning, online casino platforms also don't know if their users are a gambling addict or not,
so the warning is just a statement that confirms that casinos are irresponsible when those who enter are unable to control themselves and will suffer a lot of losses.