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One reason why some gamblers fall into addiction is because they think they are alone. They never share their stories nor ask and listening other's opinions. I'd see some people get into addiction because they are out from socialization, they feel like gambling makes them happy rather than being into friends and family gatherings. This is why I see how important to keep open to all advice and value their opinions because those people around us usually observe and notice what happens to us.
As far as I can imagine people get addicted to gambling because of many reasons. If a person is lonely most of the time without hanging out with friends and spending time with family then that person can become addicted to gambling. There are many such people. A person who likes to be alone most of the time, once he starts gambling, he gradually becomes completely addicted to gambling, and later faces various problems and family disturbances.
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So I heard a story of some acquaintances that in their friend group, some person really got addicted recently. At first it was just fun and game, they would sit together and play some slots together in a big screen with some 10€ or so for as much as this would last them with small stake spins. And this is something they would do on big occasions. Only when together as a group and only for big days like birthday parties etc.
But the thing is, unbeknownst to them, one person in their friend group was really compulsive. So in the course of a few months, he became really addicted. He would spend much of his own money from his salary on slots and sports betting, eventually losing most of it regularly every month. Then on nearly every get together he would ask his friends to chip in so they can play slots this time in his account. Every time asking for more significant amounts too.
This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.
Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.
He's a good friend if he thinks like that. Most of us will not stop gambling just because our friend is an addict, we can help and empathize but those who stop gambling are rare. In my situation, I can stop gambling first and bond with him, think of another hobby so he can forget gambling first. I'm not addicted to gambling so I can handle it and stop it, I'm not going to quit, it's like I'm going to spend time with my friend first because he needs my help. This is how I am with my friends, when they need sympathy I go to them or they go to the house. My friends are like my brothers because we've been together for so long.
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February 14, 2024, 04:38:31 PM |
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I am not a regular gambler instead I only gamble for fun and yeah some chance to win so there is no way that I needed to quit gambling because of anyone as i am a controlled human that will never fall from any bad gambling effect.
Much more if someone is severely addicted, they are less likely to quit their habits for the sake of someone else because they are mostly selfish and can care less on the people around them, especially if it was only their friend but if it was their family there might still be a chance that they will change. IDK but quitting gambling with a friend can sound like dying for a friend, but who the fuck they are or how special friends are for us to do that? What I only know is that friends are usually the ones who can influence you to do a bad habit and this is the reason on why our parents are angry with us and they want us to stay away from our friends.
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His own money, his own rules. Why should you be all concerned about where he spends his salary? It's PRIVATE. I found it uncomfortable if people around me, even though they were my friends, were monitoring where my salary went but on the other hand, I'm a responsible person outside of gambling.
The story is not complete and only focuses on how that person spends the money. We should also know not only about how the money is used by that person but also how he is when not gambling. What if he keeps on being a responsible person for their family despite spending money on gambling? What if he can still cover his usual obligations like monthly bills even with a gambling activity?
As a response to the thread's main topic, NO I WILL NOT ADJUST AND GIVE UP MY GAMBLING HABIT FOR THE SAKE OF MY FRIEND. Why should I?
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February 14, 2024, 05:58:38 PM |
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Sometimes I need some reference to stop myself from some important addiction or addiction especially when I control myself from any important addiction I give the most priority to the contribution of my friends. Especially my friends always give me various important suggestions on how to stop myself from those harmful addictions. Many times my friends take me to the hospital when I am sick and I get all the ideas and suggestions through my friends on what to do to meditate well. So slowly recovering from gambling is an important contribution to my friends.
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February 14, 2024, 07:13:03 PM |
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Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
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February 14, 2024, 07:48:56 PM |
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This whole story is quite interesting because it reflects two important things, the first one is gambling addiction which is a serious problem and is one of the bad sides of gambling that most of gamblers fall into, the second important thing of the story is real friendship and the sacrifice a friend is able to take to help a friend out. We all know that gambling is bad if its taken way too seriously, the rush and the adrenaline we get from each gambling session pushes us to put more money and gamble more not caring about the losses that could come after it. Gambling addiction is very dangerous because you don’t know when to stop and quite frankly you wouldn’t want to stop you will just keep spending more money until you run out.
I think what those guys did for their friend is a good gesture and a proof of their solid friendship, it is not easy to let go of something you’re really passionate about but those guys did in order to help their addicted friend. I hope that helped their friend to get rid of that addiction.
Personally I think I would’ve took the same decision if one of my friends or close people got affected negatively because of a habit of mine, profits and money comes and goes but loyalty and friendship is more precious. Gambling is supposed to be a fun game, I wouldn’t enjoy it if one of my friends got addicted to it badly and watching him lose or waste all of his savings for it.
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Would you do the same for a friend?
No, not unless he had a good and convincing reason to ask me to quit gambling. Just because he is my friend does not make his reasoning correct. And he would have to convince me of that reasoning in the first place, so I would consider it at all. Because I do not enjoy being told what to do unless it has good reason. A lot of people exist in the world and each has his own morals and ways of living. Some people in this world want to be able to tell anyone what to do. But that is not right. Everyone has to be able to make their own, informed choices. They can try to talk to them and get them to see their side, but that is it.
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One reason why some gamblers fall into addiction is because they think they are alone. They never share their stories nor ask and listening other's opinions. I'd see some people get into addiction because they are out from socialization, they feel like gambling makes them happy rather than being into friends and family gatherings. This is why I see how important to keep open to all advice and value their opinions because those people around us usually observe and notice what happens to us.
As far as I can imagine people get addicted to gambling because of many reasons. If a person is lonely most of the time without hanging out with friends and spending time with family then that person can become addicted to gambling. There are many such people. A person who likes to be alone most of the time, once he starts gambling, he gradually becomes completely addicted to gambling, and later faces various problems and family disturbances. I think there is popular phrase in my country which says an idle mind is the devils workshop and I think this is the perfect example to this because having nothing to do can really keep your taught vague and when you fill up that space with gambling then it's obviously gonna lead you to the road of sweet sweet addiction that's why its always advice to always occupied yourself with different activities if you find out that you are heading down that road.
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February 14, 2024, 08:16:46 PM |
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His own money, his own rules. Why should you be all concerned about where he spends his salary? It's PRIVATE. I found it uncomfortable if people around me, even though they were my friends, were monitoring where my salary went but on the other hand, I'm a responsible person outside of gambling.
The story is not complete and only focuses on how that person spends the money. We should also know not only about how the money is used by that person but also how he is when not gambling. What if he keeps on being a responsible person for their family despite spending money on gambling? What if he can still cover his usual obligations like monthly bills even with a gambling activity?
As a response to the thread's main topic, NO I WILL NOT ADJUST AND GIVE UP MY GAMBLING HABIT FOR THE SAKE OF MY FRIEND. Why should I?
Real friends look out for each other. It wouldn't have been a thing of concern if he was gambling moderately rather he was gambling with a huge part of his salary and still losing. Gambling with a huge part of his salary means he would have little amount left to take care of himself and his family. No one is going to teach him how to spend his money, but a little reminder about his addiction won't hurt. We all know how disastrous gambling addiction can be and I think it is very okay for anyone who truly cares about you to draw your attention to it when you are walking down the wrong way.
If I have a friend who is addicted, I will not quit gambling just for his sake. I'd rather not invite him over whenever I gamble. There are many other measures out there that can be adopted to help an addicted gambler quit gambling or gamble responsibly. If I quit gambling, it will have no impact on his healing process.
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February 14, 2024, 10:59:52 PM |
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One reason why some gamblers fall into addiction is because they think they are alone. They never share their stories nor ask and listening other's opinions. I'd see some people get into addiction because they are out from socialization, they feel like gambling makes them happy rather than being into friends and family gatherings. This is why I see how important to keep open to all advice and value their opinions because those people around us usually observe and notice what happens to us.
As far as I can imagine people get addicted to gambling because of many reasons. If a person is lonely most of the time without hanging out with friends and spending time with family then that person can become addicted to gambling. There are many such people. A person who likes to be alone most of the time, once he starts gambling, he gradually becomes completely addicted to gambling, and later faces various problems and family disturbances. I think there is popular phrase in my country which says an idle mind is the devils workshop and I think this is the perfect example to this because having nothing to do can really keep your taught vague and when you fill up that space with gambling then it's obviously gonna lead you to the road of sweet sweet addiction that's why its always advice to always occupied yourself with different activities if you find out that you are heading down that road. Yes having a lot of time is very likely to eventually lead someone into gambling and spending a lot of time gambling, unemployment and not having any work activity is a pretty worrying situation, although basically not all unemployed people can get involved in gambling but there are some who are quite close to the gambling environment where one of their friends may be a gambler and when a scenario occurs where one of their friends introduces them or they ask to be taught how to gamble then this is where all the downfalls will start. On the other hand, I'm honestly not sure if they can have a proper understanding of gambling because the situation of being unemployed (no income) will be the reason for them to gamble with the aim of earning and after that obviously they will pursue victory but on the other hand are not ready to accept the fact of losing, And I say that this is the initial scenario of someone entering the addiction where the pursuit of victory to restore something that has been lost they will definitely do and what is scary is that with a situation of not having a job (no income) then obviously it is not uncommon for us to see some gamblers who are addicted to them desperate to commit several acts out of control such as criminal acts whether it is stealing or robbing. On the other hand, the advice you gave is good by telling them to occupy themselves with other things when they already feel they are on the wrong path in gambling but what you have to understand is that addiction can happen to someone without them realizing it.
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February 14, 2024, 10:59:55 PM |
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One reason why some gamblers fall into addiction is because they think they are alone. They never share their stories nor ask and listening other's opinions. I'd see some people get into addiction because they are out from socialization, they feel like gambling makes them happy rather than being into friends and family gatherings. This is why I see how important to keep open to all advice and value their opinions because those people around us usually observe and notice what happens to us.
As far as I can imagine people get addicted to gambling because of many reasons. If a person is lonely most of the time without hanging out with friends and spending time with family then that person can become addicted to gambling. There are many such people. A person who likes to be alone most of the time, once he starts gambling, he gradually becomes completely addicted to gambling, and later faces various problems and family disturbances. There is reasons why we decided to be a gamma and whe that reason or urge is not accomplished then it means something is wrong somewhere. We need to know what we are doing and stop pretending on how to go about things to help us get going. I can do anything for a friend that is a good friend indeed. There are friends that are just there to take away the little you have and have fun with it. I don't bother much about friends but I respect good friends that can help me get things going. Cryptocurrency and gambling could sounds similar but we must see through the differences to stand tall.
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danadc
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February 14, 2024, 11:36:58 PM |
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Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
I also think that things are like that, that's why I don't like to stop playing for a while and it's necessary only so that my friends can heal and not suffer, in fact all of us, as good friends, should Doing this type of sacrifice, not just for a friend, I believe that this can be done for any person as long as they are not suffering from the greatest dangers, it is something we should not do. Great friends do not care about material things, much less a game, I believe that the humanity of the world has been lost thanks to the fact that no one is capable of doing something good for someone, because everyone seeks their own interest, companies, People, everyone is cut off for now with the same tiojkera with a system that is making us sick and that makes us be or do selfish, something that I will never agree with, we must break that chain.
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Westinhome
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February 14, 2024, 11:45:07 PM |
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Much more if someone is severely addicted, they are less likely to quit their habits for the sake of someone else because they are mostly selfish and can care less on the people around them, especially if it was only their friend but if it was their family there might still be a chance that they will change. IDK but quitting gambling with a friend can sound like dying for a friend, but who the fuck they are or how special friends are for us to do that?
What I only know is that friends are usually the ones who can influence you to do a bad habit and this is the reason on why our parents are angry with us and they want us to stay away from our friends.
The gambler who was addicted to the gambling to the maximum,they never agreed the words of their friends and family members.Because do you understand he is addicted to the game,how the game addiction can be solved by the words from the friends.The initial stage gambling addict can be recovered by the words of the best friends. But the gambling addict with more indeed can’t be recovered in few words,you need to keep on say the goods and bands of the gambling addiction.The most of the addiction was happened with the concept of gambling loss recovery,which is the hardest one.
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lienfaye
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February 14, 2024, 11:54:47 PM |
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Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
I also think that things are like that, that's why I don't like to stop playing for a while and it's necessary only so that my friends can heal and not suffer, in fact all of us, as good friends, should Doing this type of sacrifice, not just for a friend, I believe that this can be done for any person as long as they are not suffering from the greatest dangers, it is something we should not do. If this particular friend is a compulsive gambler, even they stop this bonding as friends, he will likely find ways to continue this habit since he's the type who is already hooked in gambling. Stop playing for a while is a little sacrifice and a good decision. However, that doesn't mean this friend will also do the same. Chances are, he might continue playing in other place with different companions or doing it alone. Nevertheless it's really sad to see someone started playing to have fun but ended up being an addicted just because he don't have discipline to only play in moderation.
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Quidat
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February 15, 2024, 12:57:29 AM |
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~snip
Would you do the same for a friend?
No, not unless he had a good and convincing reason to ask me to quit gambling. Just because he is my friend does not make his reasoning correct. And he would have to convince me of that reasoning in the first place, so I would consider it at all. Because I do not enjoy being told what to do unless it has good reason. A lot of people exist in the world and each has his own morals and ways of living. Some people in this world want to be able to tell anyone what to do. But that is not right. Everyone has to be able to make their own, informed choices. They can try to talk to them and get them to see their side, but that is it. You wont really be that necessary on quitting gambling just for you to make your friend do quit up gambling on which you cant really just that make yourself making those actions just because you do have those kind of sympathy or concern about his addiction.We do know that this is something personal.Yes, you can give out some advises but you cant really be able to give out those kind of giving up things just for him. Its up to him whether he would really be quitting or not for good but of course you cant really just that make yourself to have those steps which it isnt necessary. We do have our own interest in life and if your friend did decide on engaging on gambling on that way then its his choice.
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ethereumhunter
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February 15, 2024, 07:09:06 AM |
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Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
I also think that things are like that, that's why I don't like to stop playing for a while and it's necessary only so that my friends can heal and not suffer, in fact all of us, as good friends, should Doing this type of sacrifice, not just for a friend, I believe that this can be done for any person as long as they are not suffering from the greatest dangers, it is something we should not do. If this particular friend is a compulsive gambler, even they stop this bonding as friends, he will likely find ways to continue this habit since he's the type who is already hooked in gambling. Stop playing for a while is a little sacrifice and a good decision. However, that doesn't mean this friend will also do the same. Chances are, he might continue playing in other place with different companions or doing it alone. Nevertheless it's really sad to see someone started playing to have fun but ended up being an addicted just because he don't have discipline to only play in moderation. If he gambles elsewhere without telling his other friends, that is his decision, and we can't do anything about it. Maybe we also can't help those who finally decide like that because they won't want to listen to our advice to stop their gambling activities because they are already addicted to gambling. But we can still try to approach him and give him suggestions so he doesn't fall deeper into gambling. As a friend, we need to accompany him even if he asks for help to help him cure his gambling addiction because after all, he is our friend who must be helped. So it will be his decision if he continues gambling without us knowing because it is beyond what we know.
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panganib999
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February 15, 2024, 11:29:16 PM |
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So I heard a story of some acquaintances that in their friend group, some person really got addicted recently. At first it was just fun and game, they would sit together and play some slots together in a big screen with some 10€ or so for as much as this would last them with small stake spins. And this is something they would do on big occasions. Only when together as a group and only for big days like birthday parties etc.
But the thing is, unbeknownst to them, one person in their friend group was really compulsive. So in the course of a few months, he became really addicted. He would spend much of his own money from his salary on slots and sports betting, eventually losing most of it regularly every month. Then on nearly every get together he would ask his friends to chip in so they can play slots this time in his account. Every time asking for more significant amounts too.
This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.
Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.
Personally wouldn't sacrifice my indulgence and hobby (at this point since it's become a weekly get-together rendezvous for you guys to gamble even against each other) for the sake of someone whose urges he can't control. I'd do my best to help him in my own way though, like talking it out to him and making him realize that he's got a problem he needs to fix before he ruins his life one way or another. I wouldn't go so far as to quit just to urge this guy to quit as well but if the whole friend group's in on it I might back out of gambling out of peer pressure. Call me evil or whatever but the thing is no amount of quitting for yourself's gonna stop a friend that's already a foot deep into the gambling grave. Most of the time issues like these are personal and therefore require little outside intervention, so my quitting wouldn't really help him whatsoever in the grand scheme of things.
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tbterryboy
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February 16, 2024, 06:24:41 AM |
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Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
That's the point, though one or the whole group of friends become ready to sacrifice their game nights and gambling activities when they are together for the friend who is vulnerable to gambling and might get addicted if they do it more, it wouldn't make any sense or change his mindset when his friends aren't around anymore because they definitely don't live together and the person getting addicted to gambling will still have access to gambling when he is alone. So it's not about what friends do when they are together, but it's about how self-aware each one of them is so that no matter what they do when they have a get-together, they should have enough patience and self-control they don't make a habit out of the activities they have done together as friends.
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Lanatsa
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February 16, 2024, 06:55:58 AM |
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Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
That's the point, though one or the whole group of friends become ready to sacrifice their game nights and gambling activities when they are together for the friend who is vulnerable to gambling and might get addicted if they do it more, it wouldn't make any sense or change his mindset when his friends aren't around anymore because they definitely don't live together and the person getting addicted to gambling will still have access to gambling when he is alone. So it's not about what friends do when they are together, but it's about how self-aware each one of them is so that no matter what they do when they have a get-together, they should have enough patience and self-control they don't make a habit out of the activities they have done together as friends. Not all of your friends or even you would definitely be doing such sacrifice, if ever they would really be leaving out gambling then it would be temporal since they could easily dumped you down and play on their own on which we know that making up bets on your own could be still possible even if you dont let your friend know on what you are doing. Only a few would really be having those kind of symphathy on the time that you are on such tough situation but most of them wont really be caring up into your condition and would really be just that definitely be that sticking into their own routine with or without you. This is why we cant really be able to make out those conclusions that friends would really be there in our side on the time that we are on such problem.In this case with myself on which i wont really be that still so sure that i would really be that quitting up my betting habits just because one of our friends did fall out into addiction? It would really be just that depending on you but much sure that not all would really be having those insights.
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