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February 16, 2024, 07:56:35 AM
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I would give him advice about what it may cause to a person and that's all because we can't just force them to stop because we are only a friend and not a family member. It would be much better if one of his family member or maybe all the family member should be the one who should make your stop gambling. Gambling addiction isn't good and it only cause problems to the gamber. I know how it feels or what it may cause when you become a gambling addict because I also gamble before I finally stop and what it cost me. Well, that was before and damn it's because of slot games.

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February 16, 2024, 08:12:40 AM
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When you choose not to play with him you're not altering your lifestyle, rather you don't want to encourage him which is quite understandable and you can always visit the casino alone and have fun by yourself. But to be frank, I don't think that's the best solution because your friend may decide to do the same thing when you stop going out with him. The right thing to do is speak to your friend, let him be aware of his addiction and encourage him to seek for help.
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February 16, 2024, 09:20:19 AM
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A true friend is only there by our side when he knows he needs to remind you if he sees that things are not going well with us. And that thing is to give and make us feel truly blessed.

A friend cannot dictate to a friend who is also close to him, but only to feel true concern for a friend who is considered a friend. So we still have the final decision to make if we follow the advice of a friend of ours.

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February 16, 2024, 10:45:37 AM
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A true friend is only there by our side when he knows he needs to remind you if he sees that things are not going well with us. And that thing is to give and make us feel truly blessed.

A friend cannot dictate to a friend who is also close to him, but only to feel true concern for a friend who is considered a friend. So we still have the final decision to make if we follow the advice of a friend of ours.

Yeah that's true, true friends will really criticize you especially when they see what you are doing wrong and when we have a friend like that, let's appreciate it because that kind of person is rare nowadays. Sometimes there is nothing wrong if we listen to them because it is also for our good.



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February 16, 2024, 11:03:53 AM
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It's rather common when a group of friends are introduced to gambling gatherings that at least one of them will end up addicted. I've seen it on a few occasions. However, I don't find it necessary for the rest of the group to quit gambling, especially if they have full control over it and it isn't causing them any issues. Certainly, they shouldn't encourage it when he's in front, but eventually his compulsive behavior will lead him to start borrowing money and going into debt in a mere attempt to recoup his losses, a common mistake or misconception compulsive gamblers have.

The whole group quitting, although not necessary, is unlikely to have an effect; he has a mind of his own, and he's free to gamble with or without his friends. They need to assist him by seeking out a professional; otherwise, he'll end up screwed before he even realizes it.

 
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February 16, 2024, 12:19:41 PM
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It's rather common when a group of friends are introduced to gambling gatherings that at least one of them will end up addicted. I've seen it on a few occasions. However, I don't find it necessary for the rest of the group to quit gambling, especially if they have full control over it and it isn't causing them any issues. Certainly, they shouldn't encourage it when he's in front, but eventually his compulsive behavior will lead him to start borrowing money and going into debt in a mere attempt to recoup his losses, a common mistake or misconception compulsive gamblers have.

The whole group quitting, although not necessary, is unlikely to have an effect; he has a mind of his own, and he's free to gamble with or without his friends. They need to assist him by seeking out a professional; otherwise, he'll end up screwed before he even realizes it.

Interest in gambling spreads quite quickly in groups of friends. Everyone strives to brag about their successes, to show how successful they are. But no one likes to talk about their expenses. I've seen those who lost a lot but kept it a secret. And let these people earn a lot, but later spending on gambling seriously ruined their lives.
I believe that you should try not to gamble periodically, because periodicity always makes any activity a habit. And unfortunately, there is someone with a weak character in every party.

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February 16, 2024, 12:26:55 PM
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Yeah that's true, true friends will really criticize you especially when they see what you are doing wrong and when we have a friend like that, let's appreciate it because that kind of person is rare nowadays. Sometimes there is nothing wrong if we listen to them because it is also for our good.
True friends will always accompany us through thick and thin because they are sincere to us and vice versa. We have to appreciate our friends who always advise us for our good and we should also be able to do the same as them. At least they try to help us and are always willing to listen to what we complain about. If they can help, they will help us and always accompany us so we don't feel alone in solving the problem. We must also be able to do the same when our friends experience problems so that our friendship will be even closer because that is what true friends are like.

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February 16, 2024, 02:25:07 PM
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Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
That's the point, though one or the whole group of friends become ready to sacrifice their game nights and gambling activities when they are together for the friend who is vulnerable to gambling and might get addicted if they do it more, it wouldn't make any sense or change his mindset when his friends aren't around anymore because they definitely don't live together and the person getting addicted to gambling will still have access to gambling when he is alone.

So it's not about what friends do when they are together, but it's about how self-aware each one of them is so that no matter what they do when they have a get-together, they should have enough patience and self-control they don't make a habit out of the activities they have done together as friends.
This habit thing becomes an addiction at some point. If following the actions of friends every day will become a habit then even a conscious person will lose his control and it is not possible to go away even if he wants to then life is directed in a bad direction. It's better to walk away from work if it seems risky to hang out with a friend. You have to change your mindset there is no guarantee that you will always find a friend. If you can control yourself there is less chance of getting addicted to bad habits of friends.

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February 16, 2024, 04:23:18 PM
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It's rather common when a group of friends are introduced to gambling gatherings that at least one of them will end up addicted. I've seen it on a few occasions. However, I don't find it necessary for the rest of the group to quit gambling, especially if they have full control over it and it isn't causing them any issues. Certainly, they shouldn't encourage it when he's in front, but eventually his compulsive behavior will lead him to start borrowing money and going into debt in a mere attempt to recoup his losses, a common mistake or misconception compulsive gamblers have.

The whole group quitting, although not necessary, is unlikely to have an effect; he has a mind of his own, and he's free to gamble with or without his friends. They need to assist him by seeking out a professional; otherwise, he'll end up screwed before he even realizes it.
I understand - its hard. Seeing a friend spiral is hard, but I believe in balance. When done safely, gambling may be fun. Rather than cutting off something people appreciate, establish lines when necessary. If I can restrict my gambling, excellent, but I must remain watchful. Setting boundaries, especially for vulnerable people, is whats needed, not quitting. Instead of stopping the activity, we should change how we use it in delicate situations.

Helping our friend is vital. Professional help and a supportive environment are essential. Gamble properly without triggering or enabling his compulsive behavior. A delicate balance between personal freedom and collective duty is needed.

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February 16, 2024, 04:36:26 PM
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Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
That's the point, though one or the whole group of friends become ready to sacrifice their game nights and gambling activities when they are together for the friend who is vulnerable to gambling and might get addicted if they do it more, it wouldn't make any sense or change his mindset when his friends aren't around anymore because they definitely don't live together and the person getting addicted to gambling will still have access to gambling when he is alone.

So it's not about what friends do when they are together, but it's about how self-aware each one of them is so that no matter what they do when they have a get-together, they should have enough patience and self-control they don't make a habit out of the activities they have done together as friends.
This habit thing becomes an addiction at some point. If following the actions of friends every day will become a habit then even a conscious person will lose his control and it is not possible to go away even if he wants to then life is directed in a bad direction. It's better to walk away from work if it seems risky to hang out with a friend. You have to change your mindset there is no guarantee that you will always find a friend. If you can control yourself there is less chance of getting addicted to bad habits of friends.

The other friends of such an addict only need to stay careful not to end up like him. But that shouldn't stop them from helping him out of the trouble. As they were both in it together. He got into the trouble gambling with them, why then will they forget about him when he's got addicted. Even if they are not interested in gambling with the addict anymore, which is a great choice. Neglecting him is a wrong, idea. He's close to them and will easily listen to their advice. That's how to treat an addicted gambler. No error in trial, running from the addict will only make him to get worse in the addiction. And he'd also going to feel it that his friends don't care about him anymore, or maybe wonder about why his friends doesn't want to gamble with him anymore. Stopping to gamble because of him, can only make him to think of why his friends are stopping, but if he's opportune to find other gamblers, he'll definitely forget about his friends, and continue his gambling lifestyle. However, keeping in touch with him is the right choice, than just stopping and moving away from him.

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February 16, 2024, 07:28:22 PM
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Interest in gambling spreads quite quickly in groups of friends. Everyone strives to brag about their successes, to show how successful they are. But no one likes to talk about their expenses. I've seen those who lost a lot but kept it a secret. And let these people earn a lot, but later spending on gambling seriously ruined their lives.
I believe that you should try not to gamble periodically, because periodicity always makes any activity a habit. And unfortunately, there is someone with a weak character in every party.
It depends on who it is; I've even seen people bragging about how much they lost in their last gambling session. Yeah, there are people who're that dumb and feel like it's something to brag about. But you're right; the majority doesn't reveal how much or how frequently they lose but only presents their winnings. Gambling periodically is fine if you're aware of how much you're spending.
I understand - its hard. Seeing a friend spiral is hard, but I believe in balance. When done safely, gambling may be fun. Rather than cutting off something people appreciate, establish lines when necessary. If I can restrict my gambling, excellent, but I must remain watchful. Setting boundaries, especially for vulnerable people, is whats needed, not quitting. Instead of stopping the activity, we should change how we use it in delicate situations.

Helping our friend is vital. Professional help and a supportive environment are essential. Gamble properly without triggering or enabling his compulsive behavior. A delicate balance between personal freedom and collective duty is needed.
It is certainly not the most pleasant thing to see. Moreover, there isn't any standard or designated approach on how to handle something like this because everyone is different and their reactions are too.

 
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February 16, 2024, 09:34:49 PM
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This habit thing becomes an addiction at some point. If following the actions of friends every day will become a habit then even a conscious person will lose his control and it is not possible to go away even if he wants to then life is directed in a bad direction. It's better to walk away from work if it seems risky to hang out with a friend. You have to change your mindset there is no guarantee that you will always find a friend. If you can control yourself there is less chance of getting addicted to bad habits of friends.
When it becomes a habit, it can also make a person addicted to gambling, and he will forget what he did before he was introduced to gambling. But after getting to know gambling and even starting to gamble too often, it started to change and started to lead to bad things that could have an impact on his life. When one or several friends have started to experience addiction, and you cannot advise them, you should immediately leave them because it is feared that you will become addicted to gambling and will not be able to get out of gambling easily. And yes, we have to change your mindset if you see that your gambling habit is starting to turn into a bad habit, and don't let yourself fall deeper into gambling because it's not worth it.

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February 16, 2024, 09:42:41 PM
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Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
We have limitations here, and we can only tell what is good and what is right, and your addicted friend will still be the one to decide for his/her own benefit. Also you have to set boundaries because your friend might get offended if you tell him to stop gambling, if that friend is still listening to you then better to suggest to seek professional help because you know to yourself that you are not capable to help him, especially on dealing with his emotions psychologically.
When you outlined your point do your friends concerning quitting gambling and your point is a genuine point that will have and the contribute meaningful For his life I believe that it will not have any negative thinking towards you or concerning you because only understand but you mean we'll for him, and Secondly I understand but when you are addicted in gambling theirs nothing someone will tell you concerning gambling that you will pick more interest in gambling, so therefore what I want you to understand is the rudiments of gambling and what makes people to be addicted

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February 16, 2024, 09:43:56 PM
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This habit thing becomes an addiction at some point. If following the actions of friends every day will become a habit then even a conscious person will lose his control and it is not possible to go away even if he wants to then life is directed in a bad direction. It's better to walk away from work if it seems risky to hang out with a friend. You have to change your mindset there is no guarantee that you will always find a friend. If you can control yourself there is less chance of getting addicted to bad habits of friends.
When it becomes a habit, it can also make a person addicted to gambling, and he will forget what he did before he was introduced to gambling. But after getting to know gambling and even starting to gamble too often, it started to change and started to lead to bad things that could have an impact on his life. When one or several friends have started to experience addiction, and you cannot advise them, you should immediately leave them because it is feared that you will become addicted to gambling and will not be able to get out of gambling easily. And yes, we have to change your mindset if you see that your gambling habit is starting to turn into a bad habit, and don't let yourself fall deeper into gambling because it's not worth it.
Doing things on repetitive manner or something that you do already do on everyday then this is a solid sign that you are making it as a habit and on the time that habits become that a main
thing into your daily routine plus having those huge spending and putting up focus then this is where we can say that it is really that forming such addiction. Things becomes messy on the time that you would be having those impulsive spending through it and knowing gambling that it could bring out you from riches to homeless then this is something that you should really be careful with.
Quitting gambling just for your friend? It would really be that depending on what kind of type of friend you are.  Cheesy

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True friends will always accompany us through thick and thin because they are sincere to us and vice versa. We have to appreciate our friends who always advise us for our good and we should also be able to do the same as them. At least they try to help us and are always willing to listen to what we complain about. If they can help, they will help us and always accompany us so we don't feel alone in solving the problem. We must also be able to do the same when our friends experience problems so that our friendship will be even closer because that is what true friends are like.

The true friends alone control us in all the situations,the O.P was in the strongest belief of the true friends can control the gambling addicted person.But the gamblers who get addicted will not accept the words of their own parents.So how they manage the words of their parents,they can only manage the gambling addiction after they start to earn the money from the gambling site.Then they can able to recover their loss in the gambling site,the gambling addicted person only get recovered from their mental condition after they recover of the gambling loss.So true friends can help the gamblers when they need of money at the time of gambling loss.

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Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.

If this is a real friend and not a colleague at parties, then why not? I’m not ready to leave a friend because of some problem (which may be completely solvable), and by the way, you didn’t tell in the story, but I can assume that those friends were connected not only by playing poker, right?
It is clear that if my friend has problems with alcohol, then I will not drink when he is with me. This seems logical to me. Same with gambling. It’s clear that he must somehow solve his problems, but I don’t think it would be a big deal for me to help him a little with this.

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February 16, 2024, 09:53:34 PM
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Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
We have limitations here, and we can only tell what is good and what is right, and your addicted friend will still be the one to decide for his/her own benefit. Also you have to set boundaries because your friend might get offended if you tell him to stop gambling, if that friend is still listening to you then better to suggest to seek professional help because you know to yourself that you are not capable to help him, especially on dealing with his emotions psychologically.
When you outlined your point do your friends concerning quitting gambling and your point is a genuine point that will have and the contribute meaningful For his life I believe that it will not have any negative thinking towards you or concerning you because only understand but you mean we'll for him, and Secondly I understand but when you are addicted in gambling theirs nothing someone will tell you concerning gambling that you will pick more interest in gambling, so therefore what I want you to understand is the rudiments of gambling and what makes people to be addicted
I've read different suggestions from you guys concerning the possibility of quiting gambling because of a friend and I will give my honest opinion on this matter. If quiting gambling is the only two help my friend who's probably addicted to gambling or will get addicted to gambling if I don't stop gambling then I'm definitely gonna quit because before I consider someone my friend, I already see that person as someone I can do anything within my strength to protect.
However, I can still be engaging in online gambling whenever I'm out of his sight but definitely not do anything that's gambling related when he's anywhere close to me because I want him to succeed in life

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February 16, 2024, 10:23:47 PM
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We have limitations here, and we can only tell what is good and what is right, and your addicted friend will still be the one to decide for his/her own benefit. Also you have to set boundaries because your friend might get offended if you tell him to stop gambling, if that friend is still listening to you then better to suggest to seek professional help because you know to yourself that you are not capable to help him, especially on dealing with his emotions psychologically.
Whenever situations with gambling addictions get to this point nits most productive when the service of a professional is involved because only that way can such person get help quick enough to be able to quit if they really want to quit because some persons only attempt quitting and then go on to still continue with their gambling habits.

If you are trying to help your friend by yourself you my likely not succeed in helping him or her out for their addiction and then even with the service of a professional they will still need to first agree to wanting to quit, that way what ever Is required of them to do so they can quit they will do but when they are not fully convinced to quit then they will most definitely continue to find away around their addiction and still continue in it despite every effort to helping them quit .

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February 16, 2024, 10:45:10 PM
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A true friend is only there by our side when he knows he needs to remind you if he sees that things are not going well with us. And that thing is to give and make us feel truly blessed.

A friend cannot dictate to a friend who is also close to him, but only to feel true concern for a friend who is considered a friend. So we still have the final decision to make if we follow the advice of a friend of ours.

It's true, apart from your family, no one will sympathize with you but your friends. Your friend will wake you up to the truth, he is the only one who will tell you what you really feel and what is happening to you, your friend is also the only one who will tell you that what you are doing is bad. So if you have a friend like this, he's just concerned about you, don't hurt him because it's like he's treating you like a brother. It's good to have a friend like this. Don't leave or avoid this kind of friend because they are the only ones who really care about you.

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February 16, 2024, 11:06:35 PM
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Personally, ife quitting guarantees that the friend will effectively drop his gambling addiction and push for rehabilitation and recovery then I’m all for it. Just puzzled over the idea of how me quitting could help the addicted friend to recover from gambling addiction when at this point he needs less of a support and more of real assistance from professionals in this field. That means him getting the treatment he needs and deserves is even more important than the moral support that us quitting would contribute into his situation. If anything I feel like our quitting to the gambling schedules that we do on a weekly basis (based on your story) is less of a help to your friend who’s addicted to gambling and more of a way to fool ourselves into thinking that we’re absolved of the guilt of letting in our friend into the gambling world.

So yeah, I can see the plan’s success in theory but rarely do we have friends that are ideal as what we envision in our studies so to account for the margin of reality.

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