I've Made Millions abusing Exploit in a Crypto Casino - AMA

[Wiwo]

Thanks for the contribution to the thread.


I don’t know much about evolution games tactics and how their games function, but i would never bet on any of those games and expect them to be fair. What i do know for a FACT that evolution games treats their employees like shit, they dont take care of them, they get overworked + low wages and overall the situation is not that good at their work place. That being said i would never trust them with a single dollar.

The thing is that,  I haven't meet any casino staff before to know what the condition of things is with them and even though,  we have proven that we should accept the fact that casino provides those games to make gains on them and that os why there is what is call house edges.

So we need to agree with the fact that casinos will always think about revenue before anything and at will prioritize that at alltimese.

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[Kakmakr]

Thanks for the contribution to the thread.


I don’t know much about evolution games tactics and how their games function, but i would never bet on any of those games and expect them to be fair. What i do know for a FACT that evolution games treats their employees like shit, they dont take care of them, they get overworked + low wages and overall the situation is not that good at their work place. That being said i would never trust them with a single dollar.

The thing is that,  I haven't meet any casino staff before to know what the condition of things is with them and even though,  we have proven that we should accept the fact that casino provides those games to make gains on them and that os why there is what is call house edges.

So we need to agree with the fact that casinos will always think about revenue before anything and at will prioritize that at alltimese.

Now, here is the conundrum.... do we justify exploiting casinos and taking away from their profits, because they might be exploiting their employees?

Is this not also hurting the employees? Those profits ends up paying the employee salaries and bonuses and overtime.

OP, found a way to beat the casino and his motive was "money" and "fame"  ... not any believe that he is helping any of those employees that are supposedly exploited.  

I hope, he will use that money to actually help people and do some good. (Best yet... just wait for the price of Bitcoin to increase... sell and give some back to the casino)

[Haunebu]

I hope, he will use that money to actually help people and do some good. (Best yet... just wait for the price of Bitcoin to increase... sell and give some back to the casino)

I doubt that. If he actually legitimately exploited the casino, he doesn't seem like the type of person to give back to the less fortunate since people like Robin hood exist in fairytales and not in reality.

He might have sold most of his stash back then and HODLED a small portion of it for the long-term or just sold it all at once.

[Oilacris]

Hello Bitcointalk community,


Glad to be back for another peek. It's been awhile. I used to be active back in 2013/14. It's been exactly 10 years since I found a major exploit in a bitcoin casino and abused it to accumulate over $1M+ back in 2014.


Thought it would be fun to do an AMA, might be interesting for the community 

Dont know if the AMA did pushed through or OP did really just leave out and didnt make any response.
For sure the questions would be something like this;

1. What casino we are talking on?
2. What exploits you have discovered?
3. Didnt the site blocked your withdrawal request?

This is why it would really be truly that unbelievable for these kind of stories on which we know that this is something that
we cant really be able to prove out if this one is true. Whats the actual purpose on why there would be some AMA?
Is OP expecting  that there would be someone who would be asking on how to do it? hehehe

[Danydee]

1. What casino we are talking on?

3. Didnt the site blocked your withdrawal request?

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Was it you?
https://medium.com/@Stunna/breaking-the-house-63f1021a3e6d

2. What exploits you have discovered?

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Main question: How was the exploit performed?

The casino used provably fair dice game. They were about to release new version for their site, before release they had separate beta website for small group of players to test and look for bugs before the final version would be released. I was one of those players who got access to the beta testing site. Finally the testing period was over and new version of the site was released to the public. The beta site was still online. The mistake that the casino made was that beta site account and main public site were sharing identical server seed. Meaning that i could reveal the server seed on the beta website while still having it active unrevealed on the main site. The way probably fair works is that with revealed server seed i could calculate all the future dice rolls before they would happen. And thats what i did. I did it for over 2 months i believe. I abused it in a way where it really looked like at the end i was just getting lucky and that the EV would catch up in the end. Over 2 month + period i was withdrawing big amounts in btc totalling thousands of bitcoins overall.


1. I still have majority of thay money.
2. I never felt guilt or wanted to return the money. Casino is a very shady business and the owners of these platforms dont care about their players or their losses and will do anything to milk their customers out of their last dollar. So i feel no sympathy. I outplayed them at their own game.
3. I did diversify my btc investment
4. Yes i am
5. I could sign wallet containing good chunk of those coins but I wouldnt say that would be the smartest thing to do

This is why it would really be truly that unbelievable for these kind of stories on which we know that this is something that
we cant really be able to prove out if this one is true. Whats the actual purpose on why there would be some AMA?
Is OP expecting  that there would be someone who would be asking on how to do it? hehehe

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I am clarifying again that I did not create this thread to benefit financially in anyway from any user nor i have any ill intentions.

I have already explained how I was able to do the bug. It has been patched years ago and there is no use for anyone messaging me for anything.

hehehe !

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Hello Bitcointalk community,


Glad to be back for another peek. It's been awhile. I used to be active back in 2013/14. It's been exactly 10 years since I found a major exploit in a bitcoin casino and abused it to accumulate over $1M+ back in 2014.


Thought it would be fun to do an AMA, might be interesting for the community 

Dont know if the AMA did pushed through or OP did really just leave out and didnt make any response.
For sure the questions would be something like this;

1. What casino we are talking on?
2. What exploits you have discovered?
3. Didnt the site blocked your withdrawal request?

This is why it would really be truly that unbelievable for these kind of stories on which we know that this is something that
we cant really be able to prove out if this one is true. Whats the actual purpose on why there would be some AMA?
Is OP expecting  that there would be someone who would be asking on how to do it? hehehe

If you read previous comments from op, I think he did answer your question number 2 and number 3, since those questions have already been asked before by other users..
But for your first question, that also have been asked as well by multiple forum users here, but op didn't not Answer that, and I guess it's due to reasons that are obvious to you and I.

And on the general level now, I and anyone else can choose to believe the op or not believe him, it changes nothing, and if a user here wishes to know the exploit was possible, then asking that here may be wrong, and I guess op wouldnt want to Answer that publicly, so for me, I guess it make more sense for anyone interested in such details to pm op and have a private discussion with him, but then, it's also still important we understand that he still have the liberty to choose either to let the car out of the bag or not, it's his call.

[SamReomo]

OP, if you had successfully exploited a casino in 2014 and you're happy that you did that because you consider casinos as shady services but why on the Earth you're sharing your crime with us now? I mean what motivated you to create this thread and share that how you took advantage of a casino when they trusted you with their beta testing? Isn't it totally unethical to do something like that? If I'm not wrong then you're confessing your crime because you want some fame that how you did that?

[alikmetalik]

Regardless of what happens or become of the casinos, it wrong for a gambler to abuse the casino and any of such act is regarded as stealing from the casino, so you cant expect us to welcome such act or accept this kind of service at any point in time, bug abuse is one of the things that casinos doesn't take with levity and for that we have to avoid using such problems against them.


So the best thing to do is to report such incidents once we discover them on the casinos, and may be regardless of whatever it depends so much on the individual whether they can abuse the casino or not.

The casinos are abusing its players 24/7, if you believe that they are the good guys then you are really wrong. They are dirt-bags that will use illegal ways to get money out of your pocket. I didn't do anything as bad as what they are doing to their own customers.

I don't think every casino abuses its players 24/7 because there are some of them, at least in my country, that fund the visit of psychology for addicted players and casino has many forms of restrictions that they can enforce if you have addiction problems.
Casinos have a house edge that guarantees them profit, why do they have to use illegal ways to get money out of you? They still profit from fair play and fair rules.

What is your opinion about live casinos? e.g. Evolution gaming? I'm very curious to hear your opinion because I have experience working there. Some people say games are rigged, some say they are not, but I know the truth. Waiting for your response to reveal my answer and what happens there, whether it is a fair play or not.

you have experience working at VIG in costa rica? i'll pay you in BTC for you to explain to me how they catch card counters in the live dealer casino. DM me.

[joeperry]

This is an interesting story but would you be able to provide some proofs to us? Some people might have think that this is not good conversation but I think there's no harm on it if it happened 10 years ago, I'm pretty sure gambling sites already solved that exploit and managed to improve their security. I was curious what kind of exploit you've found and how would you be able to withdraw that money if you've made millions? I assume you also deposit a big amount and what kind of casino is that?

I think it came from third party casino games as those are the ones that are vulnerable from exploit.

[Wapfika]

This is an interesting story but would you be able to provide some proofs to us? Some people might have think that this is not good conversation but I think there's no harm on it if it happened 10 years ago, I'm pretty sure gambling sites already solved that exploit and managed to improve their security. I was curious what kind of exploit you've found and how would you be able to withdraw that money if you've made millions? I assume you also deposit a big amount and what kind of casino is that?

I think it came from third party casino games as those are the ones that are vulnerable from exploit.

I doubt that the OP will provide of about this story since he already mention before that will not gonna do that for obvious reason(privacy) since he might be legally charge for stealing to the casino.

Judging on the year and the amount involved. This is probably Primedice since there are only few casino back then that have a bankroll like that. Besides there’s news before that PD got hack with the exact amount and during that year.

Here’s the reply of OP that will answer your question.

I have access to some old wallets, however i will not sign or mention the casino where the exploit took place for obvious reasons. I have plenty of information and proof that this was a real incident back in 2014. Of course this bug doesn't work anymore and the casino has increased its security since then by a lot.

[Kakmakr]

OP, if you had successfully exploited a casino in 2014 and you're happy that you did that because you consider casinos as shady services but why on the Earth you're sharing your crime with us now? I mean what motivated you to create this thread and share that how you took advantage of a casino when they trusted you with their beta testing? Isn't it totally unethical to do something like that? If I'm not wrong then you're confessing your crime because you want some fame that how you did that?

Well, it would not have been too clever to start a AMA back then, when it happened. OP exploited the casino and went into hiding until things cooled down, which is the logical thing to do.

Blockchain forensics has also improved a lot, since then... so revealing any wallet info now, will be foolish.

It will still be a very interresting AMA, if OP wants to reveal more, because everyone likes a "Bank robber" story. It might even help some casinos to beef up their security.

[SamReomo]

Well, it would not have been too clever to start a AMA back then, when it happened. OP exploited the casino and went into hiding until things cooled down, which is the logical thing to do.

Blockchain forensics has also improved a lot, since then... so revealing any wallet info now, will be foolish.

It will still be a very interresting AMA, if OP wants to reveal more, because everyone likes a "Bank robber" story. It might even help some casinos to beef up their security.

I agree with you, OP has to understand that Blockchain forensics are at another level these days as compare to the 2014 ones. In fact, now they can take so much help from AI which wasn't available back then.

OP has looted a casino which he shouldn't do, however if he has done that crime and still has the money then why did he created this thread in first place? I guess OP wanted to show us that how genius he was that he exploited a bug of a casino and looted money from that casino's funds.

[davis196]

Hello Bitcointalk community,


Glad to be back for another peek. It's been awhile. I used to be active back in 2013/14. It's been exactly 10 years since I found a major exploit in a bitcoin casino and abused it to accumulate over $1M+ back in 2014.


Thought it would be fun to do an AMA, might be interesting for the community 

I'm surprised this forum thread still hasn't been deleted.
Any valid proof that you have actually exploited a crypto casino 10 years ago? One million dollar is a big amount. Did you exploit the biggest crypto casino back in 2013? I really doubt that there was a crypto casino back in 2013-2014 that had such liquidity. Did you stole the 1M USD in a short time frame or you were abusing the casino slowly? Are you capable of finding and exploiting bugs/glitches in the modern day online crypto casinos? What happened with your million dollar wealth? Did you invest it and make it 10x? Did you waste it on girls, alcohol and gambling?

[peter0425]

Regardless of what happens or become of the casinos, it wrong for a gambler to abuse the casino and any of such act is regarded as stealing from the casino, so you cant expect us to welcome such act or accept this kind of service at any point in time, bug abuse is one of the things that casinos doesn't take with levity and for that we have to avoid using such problems against them.


So the best thing to do is to report such incidents once we discover them on the casinos, and may be regardless of whatever it depends so much on the individual whether they can abuse the casino or not.

The casinos are abusing its players 24/7, if you believe that they are the good guys then you are really wrong. They are dirt-bags that will use illegal ways to get money out of your pocket. I didn't do anything as bad as what they are doing to their own customers.

But doing wrong from another wrong is wrong .

Yeah what made you different from casino abuse that you are calling now when yourself done something the same, yeah not as rampant and bigger than they are taking to players but same thought that they did.

and also gambling is every peoples choice and there is nothing you should be caring and taking this action because we choose to gamble and even if we lose then that is our money .

[JackpotRacer]

Glad to be back for another peek. It's been awhile. I used to be active back in 2013/14. It's been exactly 10 years

Are you Ban invading or you forget your old login details ??

I don't think anyone will be interested in learning how to abuse a casino to make money out of it. We need profit, but it should be done the right way.
 
If you are abusing a casino by using your hacked tricks to exploit the casino and you are caught cheating, you might forget you were doing wrong in the first place and start calling the casino a bad name.

Not ban evading. Never been banned on the forums. I don't have access to the old account.

@pahahaha
so let us see if you are legit.

you don't need the access to the old account. just give us the link of the thread you opened in those times or the link to an old thread you answered with your old user name. very easy if you are legit

Cheers

[Ultegra134]

I doubt that the OP will provide of about this story since he already mention before that will not gonna do that for obvious reason(privacy) since he might be legally charge for stealing to the casino.

Judging on the year and the amount involved. This is probably Primedice since there are only few casino back then that have a bankroll like that. Besides there’s news before that PD got hack with the exact amount and during that year.

Isn't he already risking his privacy by posting on a public forum bragging about an exploit he abused in the past? I do find the story hard to believe, but we've all seen similar examples of casinos being exploited due to loopholes and bugs in their games, so I'm not going to claim that he's lying because I cannot prove that either. I'm not expecting the OP to provide evidence either, for obvious reasons. For those mentioning why he's not using his real account even though he claims he wasn't active for years, from how I see things, there might be some ties to lead back to him. Even though that's not really the point, what difference does it make if he's ban-evading or not?

[rodskee]

Glad to be back for another peek. It's been awhile. I used to be active back in 2013/14. It's been exactly 10 years

Are you Ban invading or you forget your old login details ??

I don't think anyone will be interested in learning how to abuse a casino to make money out of it. We need profit, but it should be done the right way.
 
If you are abusing a casino by using your hacked tricks to exploit the casino and you are caught cheating, you might forget you were doing wrong in the first place and start calling the casino a bad name.

Not ban evading. Never been banned on the forums. I don't have access to the old account.

@pahahaha
so let us see if you are legit.

you don't need the access to the old account. just give us the link of the thread you opened in those times or the link to an old thread you answered with your old user name. very easy if you are legit

Cheers

Correct and that is even easy to do than digging for His old account log in details.

and it is interesting if this truly happen and he has the capacity to do such in gambling site while
it is obvious that he is not a fan of gambling business but a hater.
even claiming that gambling sites are abuser but for me what he did is not far from what he
claims casino is doing for their players 24/7 .

[Mr. Magkaisa]

Glad to be back for another peek. It's been awhile. I used to be active back in 2013/14. It's been exactly 10 years

Are you Ban invading or you forget your old login details ??

I don't think anyone will be interested in learning how to abuse a casino to make money out of it. We need profit, but it should be done the right way.
 
If you are abusing a casino by using your hacked tricks to exploit the casino and you are caught cheating, you might forget you were doing wrong in the first place and start calling the casino a bad name.

      -    I laughed when you said this mate about OP. 10 years have passed, and then, newbie, what is that? What is the reason for Op to come back here? No one is really interested in what he says. If he returns here to the platform of the forum to continue studying bitcoin and crypto, that's fine.

But if he comes back just to look for a fool here in the community of the crypto space, that is not a good thing because he will also reap bad things in the end, for sure.

I doubt that the OP will provide of about this story since he already mention before that will not gonna do that for obvious reason(privacy) since he might be legally charge for stealing to the casino.

Judging on the year and the amount involved. This is probably Primedice since there are only few casino back then that have a bankroll like that. Besides there’s news before that PD got hack with the exact amount and during that year.

Isn't he already risking his privacy by posting on a public forum bragging about an exploit he abused in the past? I do find the story hard to believe, but we've all seen similar examples of casinos being exploited due to loopholes and bugs in their games, so I'm not going to claim that he's lying because I cannot prove that either. I'm not expecting the OP to provide evidence either, for obvious reasons. For those mentioning why he's not using his real account even though he claims he wasn't active for years, from how I see things, there might be some ties to lead back to him. Even though that's not really the point, what difference does it make if he's ban-evading or not?

The problem is we don't know if he has been abused in the past. Let's just let op.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I doubt that the OP will provide of about this story since he already mention before that will not gonna do that for obvious reason(privacy) since he might be legally charge for stealing to the casino.

Judging on the year and the amount involved. This is probably Primedice since there are only few casino back then that have a bankroll like that. Besides there’s news before that PD got hack with the exact amount and during that year.

Isn't he already risking his privacy by posting on a public forum bragging about an exploit he abused in the past? I do find the story hard to believe, but we've all seen similar examples of casinos being exploited due to loopholes and bugs in their games, so I'm not going to claim that he's lying because I cannot prove that either. I'm not expecting the OP to provide evidence either, for obvious reasons. For those mentioning why he's not using his real account even though he claims he wasn't active for years, from how I see things, there might be some ties to lead back to him. Even though that's not really the point, what difference does it make if he's ban-evading or not?

OP is not here to provide any service, or join in earning from the forum through a signature ad campaign since he already got more than a million dollar and have retired, so, ban-evading is nothing.

And besides, if I was him, I possibly would have done exactly same thing, which is, register a new account to share this type of information, for there could be a million ways to trace back to who he is if he had used his main account - trust users of this forum on that, most especially, if he had done the wallet signing most of us do for the security of our accounts, or participate in a signature or bounty campaign in the past, wallet address he used for this activities can easily be tracked or traced, and by so doing, there could be a way to find a link to his current wallet where the stolen funds are held, and this could jeopardize everything for the op.

If I was op, assuming all he said here is true, I will not have bothered creating this thread, it's absolutely not necessary.

[Dunamisx]

OP is not here to provide any service, or join in earning from the forum through a signature ad campaign since he already got more than a million dollar and have retired, so, ban-evading is nothing.

Then am sure he is up to something for coming back or saying this directly to some particular set of people which i believe they know themselves, he may not actually be referring to being banned, but i think he left that time when it happened that he narrowly escaped an opportunity that led to his boom blast on financial fortune, and i don't think his coming back is on anything than to remind others of the past ordeal which he encounter for his breakthrough or maybe otherwise as the case may be.