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February 15, 2024, 03:26:46 AM |
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Valentine's day is a special occasion, especially for women in our country. However, receiving flowers and chocolates is enough to make them happy and feel special. But due to extreme poverty caused by high inflation, I've seen some women on social media expressing a desire for practical gifts from their boyfriends, like rice instead of flowers and chocolates. It may seem funny at first, but I realized that it's actually sensible given the circumstances. After all, flowers won't fill their hunger. Instead of amusement, my feeling shifted to admiration. It's more important to find a woman who is practical rather than materialistic, as this is a sign that she'll be a good spouse, prioritizing family over her own happiness.
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February 15, 2024, 04:16:43 AM |
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Don't worry my friend, you need to wait until the next month, if she didn't give you any gift or the gift has lower value than your gift, you can express if you're not happy and angered her just like she did to you. If he didn't even know what is White Day or don't want to spend any effort for you, better to break up with her. White Day is celebrated annually on March 14, one month after Valentine's Day, when people give reciprocal gifts to those who gave them gifts on Valentine's Day.
Well, you can’t blame your girlfriend if she acted like that since that’s what she’s been seeing from other couples or girlfriend/boyfriend relationship.
Many celebrities gifted a jewelry, car or other luxury thing to their spouses, do you give your wife or girlfriend a luxury thing every Valentines' Day? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Never hope you will get a same thing like the others, the key is know what makes you happy and not, don't FOMO. This is the reason why most people bought Bitcoin at the peak and sell at the bottom because they buy Bitcoin because of articles.
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February 15, 2024, 05:06:04 AM |
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I don't know why students are still falling victim of those things during valentine day, valentine day is a day of love sharing, but some boys and girls in school are now taking it as a Christmas or new year day when girls and boys use to demand money from their lovers to look different on that day. As a students, you don't need to be carry away by relationship because after school girls or boys will be running after you to marry you, if you achieve a good certificate from the school, because they know that your future will be bright with that your achievement. If you're in a relationship as a student, and your spouse is always demanding money from you on the time, I will advice you to quit such relationship because it can lead you to financial frustration, and it can also make you to drop out from school.
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February 15, 2024, 06:11:35 AM |
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I don't know why students are still falling victim of those things during valentine day, valentine day is a day of love sharing, but some boys and girls in school are now taking it as a Christmas or new year day when girls and boys use to demand money from their lovers to look different on that day. As a students, you don't need to be carry away by relationship because after school girls or boys will be running after you to marry you, if you achieve a good certificate from the school, because they know that your future will be bright with that your achievement. If you're in a relationship as a student, and your spouse is always demanding money from you on the time, I will advice you to quit such relationship because it can lead you to financial frustration, and it can also make you to drop out from school.
Those are just puppy love i should say and not something that you could really be able to be with her for the rest of your lives on which it would really be just that right that you wont really be putting up that much attention. If you do saw that you are really that saving some money for your future means and then your girlfriend is somehow who do really love on spending things and asking some materials on active manner then i dont see this is a wife-material kind of girl for me but if you are really just that right on this kind of behavior and type of girl then it would really be just that your choice. If you dont really like this kind of type then you could be always free on leaving out but if you do want and make yourself that blind then its your choice but for me its not really that necessary on spending on those gifts on which it would really be able to affect your saving capability specially now that we are living in a world which we do really need to have that tons of money of course. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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That's the same in most countries I think, men has been given the role of breadwinner for decades, and it will be difficult to change it instantly, the 'woke' ideology hasn't been around for long, and in my experiences people who spread it mostly are arrogant so it will be hard to change the view of men as the one who responsible financially. All that being said as a men I have no problem to become responsible to earn money for my family, because my wife also has most of the domestic responsibility, so it's still fair and teamwork.
But despite the societies view of how men should be responsible to earn money, there are many women now who also doesn't like that and in this modern era the gap of opportunity between man and women is keep shrinking, so I think there is still a chance, if you want to find a women who want to share financial responsibility, but then again as a husband you will need to share domestic work responsibility too.
Yea, what you said is true, mainly in African countries it has been a sole responsibility for men to make financial provision for their family, even in dating men have been found as the right gender to give when it comes to finances, though this is a segmental idea, but for me I think it should be a 70/30 thing, though from the Bible, men has been given the authority by God and the women are meant to be the supporters in the family but that doesn't mean that if a man is not financially buoyant the woman should ignore the basic provision if she has what it takes to do so, I am talking in terms of both marriage and relationship, these biblical notion should not be seen as an avenue to exploit men by women, in as much as I don't advocate for equal responsibility between the two gender, I am of the opinion that both parties should not look at it as if the whole responsibility is meant for one person, the needful should be done if either genders has what it takes to carryout the responsibility to avoid biased mindset.
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its not about men being the bread winner where she should appreciate the money.. .. any other day of the year. literally anyother day. she would appreciate the money..
but on valentines day. the intimate day.. receiving money is where a girl would feel like a prostitute valentines day is literally the only day where giving money is the worse idea possible even just giving a small heart shaped keyring for $2 is better then giving $50 in cash
valentines day is about romantic gifts..
also: valentines day is literally the only day where giving kitchen appliances is the worse idea possible even just giving a small heart shaped keyring for $2 is better then giving a microwave or food mixer or any appliance worth $50
the gift you give represents how you see the person give them money says you see them as prostitute give them a kitchen appliance says you see them as a maid/housewife
it literally is the least romantic message you can say to a girl about how you see them..
i laugh at how many people in this topic are defending the guy.. it literally shows they have no experience with women nor understand them im a guy and even i know basic ettiquate and know the result of such action of giving money on valentines day is a bad idea.
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February 15, 2024, 07:36:50 AM |
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I don't know of the other side of the World, but in this side of the World, men are responsible for every financial responses in both marriage and the boy/girlfriends relationships. The demands of financial expenses is being too much at the men sides. Here, my friends girlfriend who is a university scholar that faces financial challenges is keeping my friend worried, On the 14th Februarys which marks the "Valentines day"(lovers day) as it may imply, it is usually a special day here in this side of the World where couples and those in intimate relationships or even relatives do have it a remarkable day to spend together. It was likely a tradition that they must gift each other with what is affordable but gifted on a special offer. The guys (men) are most expected to play this gifting role but here at this edge, my guy thought of having his girlfriend the sum of $50 cash believing she has more of financial issues to tackle than acquiring materialistic items (gifts). This is so she can utilize the money and add up to her educational fees or otherwise. Now, she said the guy is not being caring and romantic simply because other persons to her notice are being gifted of materialistic items instead of money. She expected me to purchase her items with the gifted money.
This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.
You're not wrong when giving a practical gift, but on Valentine's Day, emotions and the moment matter just as much. Especially for many women, feeling valued and cherished through thoughtful gestures is more important than practicality. Perhaps consider a gift that reflects her interests or creates a special memory together. Furthermore, I disagree with the idea that men solely bear financial responsibility in relationships, especially in early stages like dating. A healthy partnership involves mutual support, including sharing financial burdens. Splitting bills or taking turns treating each other is a common way to demonstrate this. We should also acknowledge that many women today are financially independent and contribute equally or even more than their partners. True partnership thrives on understanding, respect, and shared effort, not outdated gender roles.
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February 15, 2024, 09:20:22 AM |
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I don't know why students are still falling victim of those things during valentine day, valentine day is a day of love sharing, but some boys and girls in school are now taking it as a Christmas or new year day when girls and boys use to demand money from their lovers to look different on that day. As a students, you don't need to be carry away by relationship because after school girls or boys will be running after you to marry you, if you achieve a good certificate from the school, because they know that your future will be bright with that your achievement. If you're in a relationship as a student, and your spouse is always demanding money from you on the time, I will advice you to quit such relationship because it can lead you to financial frustration, and it can also make you to drop out from school.
Usually that's what they see on their environment and also social media contributes a lot on this since many people fantasize romantic things that's why they want also to apply it in real life so that they can be in and have something to post online so people could see that they are celebrating the month of love. But I don't find any problem with this since this doesn't determine a problem and it maybe became worst if a person will do crime just fund there wants and have money to present to their love ones. Also if the girl is demanding a lot that out of capability of the guy then I think that person is so materialistic and he really need to get out on that relationship so that he will not be total control and also can escape on such person which only give him a headache.
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February 15, 2024, 10:41:23 AM |
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sensitive or not, it is more important to be able to manage finances properly. aka if only for a pleasure need there is no need to go into debt to fulfill it. motorbikes and cars are a pleasure need whatever the reason, for example, to go to work for this or that. especially just for the needs of dating is not very important. unless you are married, your wife's needs you are responsible for there is a budget to provide for your family.
For those who are mature enough and established in their lives, of course they already know which are the basic needs and which are the needs for fun, so each person can easily separate these things through their own lives. And in general, everyone can probably still live their life without motorbikes and cars or dating as you said, so they don't have to have debt if their living conditions are still quite stable and they don't suffer too much due to lack of money or income every month. But for those who are married and want to open a business to channel capital into the business, of course it is not wrong if they want to take out debt so they can run a business that they can manage quite well. Because going into debt to open a business is a very common thing and is also quite feasible as long as the business owner has such intentions and pays it on time. So debt is not always bad if someone knows where to place it and where to use it for a better purpose for themselves.
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February 15, 2024, 11:22:28 AM |
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she probably just wants a small little gift thats more suited for the theme of valentine not necessarily a thing about money or something expensive.
I know we all have responsibility and targets that are very important to meet up. Women likes to be treated special and sometimes when they come up with a demand like gifts for valentines and birthdays most guys don't know how to handle matters like this. If the money is not available is to make them understand how things financially at the moment and if something small can also be present to them as a gift it is also better. When women want to be treated special it doesn't mean it must be something so big or expensive. Little can be be given to show how special they are. You need understanding to follow women up, they always needs to be treated special which it doesn't need to e something too big but something that can be giving to them in a special way.
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I mean yeah, it's basically a lack of effort that I'm seeing here. Just like everyone else on here as said, go buy her something that's special. Money by itself is not particularly special, because everyone's got money, right? And if everyone's got something then it's no longer special.
In this context, I can understand the comparisons she's making to other couples, although that's not a good trait to have in the long run if you ask me.
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Basically people have different ways of showing and feeling love. Some like gifts, others prefer time or gestures. Your friend and his girlfriend might have different preferences, causing some confusion. They should just talk openly about what they expect and find a compromise that works for both. Understanding each other's feelings can help avoid misunderstandings and make their relationship stronger
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In my opinion, this does not mean being financially insensitive. But on big days like Valentine's Day, of course giving gifts is one way to show your girlfriend how much you love her. Giving gifts can be a sign that your boyfriend is a special person for you. Why is that? Because it takes effort to find a gift and wrap it, although the price is not very expensive, it is more valuable than giving $50.
Because not everyone values money on Valentine's Day. If he prefers to receive gifts, respect your boyfriend's request. Although you may feel good about giving him money, this can actually put a strain on your relationship with your boyfriend.
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Thankfully, I like in a more equitable country, where some people do have some standard patriarchal values, but younger generations are more progressive. Women and men join the workforce pretty equally, so both have their own finances and can choose to either have the split budget or a shared budget. Men are not expected to pay for dates or exclusively buy presents. It's common to split the bills and for both to give presents to each other in a relationship. Gifting money isn't common in couples in my country, a gift is supposed to be something specific (not necessarily expensive, as it can be just something pretty like a love letter or some sweets). I don't know about the op's country, but perhaps that's why the girl was offended, too, as money is the easiest gift because you don't need to take time and care into buying an actual gift this way.
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February 15, 2024, 01:53:30 PM |
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Learning value is part of financial literacy, not only earning and spending. Your friend's $50 donation is practical. He looks deeper to meet a need rather than follow gifting standards. However, we are locked in a cycle where the gesture is misinterpreted as a lack of romance. We need to rethink care and assistance
The problem is a communal failure to understand relationship worth and support, not men or women. When did we start measuring love with tangible things? What's more important to our partner's well-being? Instant satisfaction or long-term support? Your friend's girlfriend's reaction is classic forest-for-trees confusion. She wants the gift's shape, not its content
We should all learn to value financial prudence and emotional intelligence in our relationships. Let's not confuse money with emotion. Instead, let's promote understanding and empathy and recognize actions' genuine impact
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This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.
It is basically how they condition your brain with marketing, and that's why they all think of it that way. I get that it may not be all that easy for some people but at the same time we are talking about millions even maybe over a billion people getting that marketing. When they do it that way, it becomes normal. Like for example a diamond ring wasn't a proposal thing 100 years ago, then slowly the marketing became so important for it that the diamond stuff that you buy to your wife became the symbol of how much you love her. That is all marketing, diamond doesn't worth that much at all, it's cheap to made and worthless resource, but they made marketing so much that they can sell it for whatever they want now.
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February 15, 2024, 03:50:17 PM |
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Well, if it was really that important to buy her a gift, thenyou or your friend would have used $20 to buy a little gift for her and only handed over $30 to her. Although the girl seems to be comparing her boyfriend to other guys who are giving their girlfriend materialistic gifts,.
Relationships usually work better and can become fruitful if both parties understand themselves very well. The girl is supposed to know the level of income her guy has and what he can afford for her, and she just has to be content with it. If she is being too materialistic and your friend feels he can't cope with the relationship, he can still find another relationship with a girl who can be content with what he has.
The guy didn't do anything thing wrong. He just tried to express his love for her by meeting her needs. Maybe both of them are not communicating properly because the guy's action was an expression of love. Even if the guy had given her a gift, she would have still put pressure on the guy for the $50 and who knows if he has extra funds. Ladies have different love languages because I know that many girls in my location would appreciate the money as a Valentine's gift more than roses or another gift. It is time we stop copying the lives of others on social media and other platforms and consider living our lives based on our conditions. The girl is not happy because her friends received gifts and she got cash, that's not right. The most important thing is that somebody loves and cares about you that he is sacrificing his hard-earned money and all he is getting for his love is backlash. Even if you receive the wrong gift from someone you love, you should show appreciation because love covers multiple of sins.
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February 15, 2024, 03:57:10 PM |
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In every relationship lays in the man's hand and whatever way you build your relationship so it will lead to marriage and even when in marriage you wouldn't faced any difficulty.
As man you shouldn't have given your girlfriend or your friends girlfriend that opportunity and a chance to think of irrelevant things than the relevant, yes it's true that Valentine's day is always especially day but must gifting each other's be a thing of compulsion?
Well, to answer this clearly you or your friend must not gifts his fiance rather both can go out to a lovely places to express their love and feelings to each other, after which they can buy an affordable thing like Ice cream and any other romantic things to enhance their love play in that night or evening they find themselves together.
We don't need to give ourselves unnecessary pressure to spend extravagantly while there are other meaningful bills to pay out there, yes I know it's good to gift each other's but you can't skip the real responsibility that is holding you down there.
You knowing she has a very important thing to tackle with money and if such amount you mentioned can be used to speeding her school expenses then why on earth would she need more expensive gift while there is important thing to solve at school with money without her considering your financial state and level.
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February 15, 2024, 04:17:05 PM |
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This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.
You have a choice. Everybody does. You don't have to continue with your relationship, don't you? If you don't like that person's behavior and that behavior could be anything, just leave her/him. Look for somebody else that has the right behavior for you. If you can't find anyone like that, then being alone is still better than having a partner that you don't like. In the long run you will hate that person more and it will bring you huge trouble. You will get hurt emotionally and financially. Is it worth the trouble? I don't think so. When people like you make these right decisions, the other side will have to fix their attitude. It may take decades but it will happen.
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February 15, 2024, 05:12:26 PM |
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The guys (men) are most expected to play this gifting role but here at this edge, my guy thought of having his girlfriend the sum of $50 cash believing she has more of financial issues to tackle than acquiring materialistic items (gifts). This is so she can utilize the money and add up to her educational fees or otherwise. Now, she said the guy is not being caring and romantic simply because other persons to her notice are being gifted of materialistic items instead of money. She expected me to purchase her items with the gifted money.
This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.
Lol. I don't blame her though, I blame the society she lives for believing women has to expect gifts from men. Normally, a gift doesn't have to be that expensive, a flower is enough and at most going for a date and hangout to spice up the relationship is enough to show love to anyone, you don't have to break the bank to do that, I think even that $50 was a mistake, you don't gift money but item and doesn't have to be expensive. The next time he decided to gift her money less than that amount might not be enough to her. Now, the fact that she was so entitled and belittle what was given to her makes me irk, she is ungrateful and probably a gold differ or these girls that compare their relationship with other girls, they always see life as competitive, because my friend has expensive Gucci shoes as gift, my boyfriend has to gift me Versace or something better than what their friends has gotten, typical bullcrap behavior. He is even financial unstable, instead of him to focus on his life and look for a way to be financially buoyant enough, he is chasing rubbish relationship that might not lead to nothing and later when he calculated all he has spent on the babe, he will now be regretting his actions and by that time, it will be late.
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