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If the partner doesn't understand what you are trying to do then the relationship won't work, and generally the relationship in your teen or in 20s just long for a while not forever so never ever make decisions that may change your life for that person. We should not categorize women lacks financial sensibility but one who knows, know. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Let's just give the equality they have been protesting on the social media or just let them completely independent, don't take someone's burden as yours unless the person does the same for you.
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This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.
You have a choice. Everybody does. You don't have to continue with your relationship, don't you? If you don't like that person's behavior and that behavior could be anything, just leave her/him. Look for somebody else that has the right behavior for you. If you can't find anyone like that, then being alone is still better than having a partner that you don't like. In the long run you will hate that person more and it will bring you huge trouble. You will get hurt emotionally and financially. Is it worth the trouble? I don't think so. When people like you make these right decisions, the other side will have to fix their attitude. It may take decades but it will happen. Indeed, never waste time complaining. There are male individuas who prefers being the provider of the relationship and to their partner on not to work at all and to just focus with their home perhaps, or their things such as studies. There's no need to force things 'coz you'll just end up with burnout. Engage with people that will match your preferences and interest. Not because they are not into investment means that they have no "future" within. There are just preferences; some are aiming for a higher position at work, and that's just fine. And with financial awareness, try to give her your insights of things to know if each of you would suit well with one another, if you really love her than to hide your negative viewpoints that will eventually affect the relationship in general.
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Ha, Valentine's Day is a product of consumerism and exposure to the fakeness of social media. Back then, if you have a flower and a handwritten letter, that's enough to celebrate Valentine's day. Nowadays, people become so materialistic and addicted to social media that they want to receive gifts and post it for other people's validation and affirmation. I do have a partner and I made it clear that we're not going to spend on fancy dates just because everyone does. Thankfully, she understands and insisted on us going for a quick ride in the mountains with packed lunch. Also, men shouldn't be pressured to always spend in a relationship. If you don't have the money, be honest and sincere about it. If she doesn't accept it, then better find yourself another partner whose capacity to understand your financial status is greater.
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Ha, Valentine's Day is a product of consumerism and exposure to the fakeness of social media. Back then, if you have a flower and a handwritten letter, that's enough to celebrate Valentine's day. Nowadays, people become so materialistic and addicted to social media that they want to receive gifts and post it for other people's validation and affirmation. I do have a partner and I made it clear that we're not going to spend on fancy dates just because everyone does. Thankfully, she understands and insisted on us going for a quick ride in the mountains with packed lunch. Also, men shouldn't be pressured to always spend in a relationship. If you don't have the money, be honest and sincere about it. If she doesn't accept it, then better find yourself another partner whose capacity to understand your financial status is greater.
We cant really deny that it did really have at least that kind of influences in speaking about things been upgrading as years passing by on which instead on accepting those flowers, they are more really that expecting something more like other things or materials which are expensive or something that having value or simply there are really indeed people or women who are really that materialistic. There wont really be an issue if you are a rich person or man but if not? For sure you would really be hesitant on doing so and you would already be having those doubts on the girl you do love. If you do have that kind of sense of being abused in terms of money then you can leave out anytime. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) People wont really be able to feel out the importance of money not until they would really be able to experience those financial difficulties on which we know that people would really be just that mindful on that only moment.
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February 16, 2024, 08:29:09 AM |
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Ha, Valentine's Day is a product of consumerism and exposure to the fakeness of social media. Back then, if you have a flower and a handwritten letter, that's enough to celebrate Valentine's day. Nowadays, people become so materialistic and addicted to social media that they want to receive gifts and post it for other people's validation and affirmation. I do have a partner and I made it clear that we're not going to spend on fancy dates just because everyone does. Thankfully, she understands and insisted on us going for a quick ride in the mountains with packed lunch. Also, men shouldn't be pressured to always spend in a relationship. If you don't have the money, be honest and sincere about it. If she doesn't accept it, then better find yourself another partner whose capacity to understand your financial status is greater.
they guy had the money. was willing to spend that value.. its not about the amount.. and the girl declined the amount its about the form in which he displayed his offering which signifies how he see's her she took it [AS ALL WOMEN WOULD] as a sign that he was expecting intimacy in return for money.. AKA prostitution if he made a true romantic effort, even just flowers and a love letter he would have got a whole different response even a $2 heart shaped keyring would have got a better response from all women. including the OP's GF.. compared to any value of money small or big.. because its about the message it conveys also if he or anyone moved onto a different girl and handed them money on valentines day.. he would get same response no matter the girl. he sent the wrong message.. he subtly implied he seen her as a prostitute. as thats what the money implies. in this circumstance of intimacy expectation after gifts so heed his example everyone. dont give a girl money and expect intimacy especially on valentines without her thinking you want to treat her as a prostitute avoid such mistakes. get her anything cute/romantic. even if its cheaper/tackier .. just make a proper romantic gesture
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If we want to talk about Valentines Day and women in particular, then the guy who gave money as a gift failed totally. Sometimes people should stop thinking only about material benefits and do simple, yet effective money waste on a gift. Just think, flowers is a total waste of money, because they will be thrown in few days. Yet this is one of most simple and effective gifts. Just admit and feel ok when you get shaving foam and socks as a gift, when you buy her a Lamborghini.
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OP, my female advice. If your girlfriend doesn't appreciate the gift, give her flowers next time. They will wither the next day, and you should be sure to indicate what she could buy instead of these flowers. The romance will quickly end when she grows up, and she will have the choice of buying a gift, a trinket, or, for example, necessary things for her child, and God forbid, food. It is important to maintain good relationships despite any material difficulties. Isn’t this what is required of us during a wedding, in sorrow, and in joy? Today’s time requires practicality from young people. Being financially literate is an important trait for the future. You made a gift, but how it was appreciated only speaks of the stupidity of the recipient.
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February 16, 2024, 01:36:23 PM |
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This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.
not all women think like that, but the girlfriend's feelings are reasonable and valid because Valentine's is only once a year, what if even a simple gift is prepared? that has nothing to do with the price or value of what the partner will give, of course girlfriends also want to experience that somehow they are special on Valentine's Day, but then again, not all woman are just like OP's friend's GF, There's still a lot of women out there who thinks practicality over material things.
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February 16, 2024, 04:08:16 PM |
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That's why you can't just see women from the outside, especially those who are still unstable and don't understand their partner's condition. sometimes they see videos showing how their boyfriend takes them out to buy something luxurious and buy gifts, they only see the fun part, without seeing someone they will always have problems, but the attitude you mentioned actually doesn't apply to all women, sometimes there are women who understands their partner's situation
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I don't know of the other side of the World, but in this side of the World, men are responsible for every financial responses in both marriage and the boy/girlfriends relationships. The demands of financial expenses is being too much at the men sides. Here, my friends girlfriend who is a university scholar that faces financial challenges is keeping my friend worried, On the 14th Februarys which marks the "Valentines day"(lovers day) as it may imply, it is usually a special day here in this side of the World where couples and those in intimate relationships or even relatives do have it a remarkable day to spend together. It was likely a tradition that they must gift each other with what is affordable but gifted on a special offer. The guys (men) are most expected to play this gifting role but here at this edge, my guy thought of having his girlfriend the sum of $50 cash believing she has more of financial issues to tackle than acquiring materialistic items (gifts). This is so she can utilize the money and add up to her educational fees or otherwise. Now, she said the guy is not being caring and romantic simply because other persons to her notice are being gifted of materialistic items instead of money. She expected me to purchase her items with the gifted money.
This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.
lol, I can tell you personally that here in the United States, that women tend to care more often than men when it comes to taking their personal finances seriously. I meet with both men and women about their financial retirement needs/goals every single day and I can say without a shadow of a doubt this is the case in general here in the US. Perhaps your side of the world has held women back as equals for far too long, and this is only one aspect of that, but..perhaps I'm wrong, I don't know what part of the world you live in..
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She expected me to purchase her items with the gifted money.
It looks like you're the one dating a materialistic girlfriend and not you friend. So you should man up and stop saying my friend's girlfriend. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Ladies want to be loved, cared for and pampered with gifts, especially on an important day like the Valentine's day. However, just as all shoes have different sizes, that's how we all have different financial capacities. If a lady cannot accept or is not satisfied with the gifts and money I can shower her at my level. Then, It's a red flag for me and I'd gladly pack my bag and baggages and run a way, because I'll not steal to impress a lady. Honestly,its so alarming to hear and see how some ladies place unnecessary demands on their partners without a second thought forgetting that they have a better role to play in their relationship.This is why some guys are scared of going into a relationship these days.If you think you're not living to her expectations,I bet you,I'm so sorry for you because you can live up to anyone's expectations. If she's to materialistic,have a healthy conversation with her,decide on what you can live with,and what you can'nt,understand her personality,and if she's reasonable,she'll understand.
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It is cool after reading most replies on this thread, however, this said friend of mine sometimes told me how his girlfriend is used to make materialistic demands as if that would be the end of offers she would request from him. I mean to say she doesn't act economically with the conscience that there are periods of times that things doesn't work out well for persons. She just want to get what she wants without excuses. I have come across replies here agitating that the guy is not romantic, he's is not fit to have a girlfriend if he can not provide her needs, he should had purchase her some goodie gift from the $ and hand her over with the remaining cash. Hell no buddies! I guess most of us here doesn't understand that when you stand to be abided to a girls demands, you are likely to be under her command which she doesn't have ideals on how you struggles to gain your money and on that fact, she would definitely ruin the guys financial life because all she cares is bringing to her needs as if the money is something that is easy to get as little as her mindsets could be. For a girlfriend who is having financial challenges, materialistic items shouldn't be a point of target and when you have a man who is there to provide for you, don't overload him, help him manage his resources so as to expect better more ahead.
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February 17, 2024, 02:12:45 PM |
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I don't know of the other side of the World, but in this side of the World, men are responsible for every financial responses in both marriage and the boy/girlfriends relationships. The demands of financial expenses is being too much at the men sides. Here, my friends girlfriend who is a university scholar that faces financial challenges is keeping my friend worried, On the 14th Februarys which marks the "Valentines day"(lovers day) as it may imply, it is usually a special day here in this side of the World where couples and those in intimate relationships or even relatives do have it a remarkable day to spend together. It was likely a tradition that they must gift each other with what is affordable but gifted on a special offer. The guys (men) are most expected to play this gifting role but here at this edge, my guy thought of having his girlfriend the sum of $50 cash believing she has more of financial issues to tackle than acquiring materialistic items (gifts). This is so she can utilize the money and add up to her educational fees or otherwise. Now, she said the guy is not being caring and romantic simply because other persons to her notice are being gifted of materialistic items instead of money. She expected me to purchase her items with the gifted money.
This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.
Initially, it's not all women that has this thought towards men going out in search of money while there's is to sit back and think only about how they are going to be spending it. While most women are supportive some are not, but lately a good number of them are blood sucking leaches, they will have to make sure you spend your very last on them for items or things not necessarily needed though they can be needed but not on that exact time, just to impress friends or maintain same status as their friends, then when things don't go their way it would lead to a fight. Left For me I will like every man to help get their idle fiance, girlfriend or wife a good job, business or skill, so as to help relieve the burden from themselves, by doing so they'll be able to pay bills themselves when need arises, I guess by so doing there won't be any worries or much of demands from the woman anymore. As a man if you are the only one providing you will end up having issues and worry over something you are not supposed to be thinking over, i will say one of the reasons why most men end up overthinking is simply because they do carry unwanted load on them even when they feels like "I have much money" you'll still see them complain. In my own opinion, I think women should able to take care of some needs themselves and also assist their spouse sometimes too.
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It's not about financial insensibility, it's more like an instinct that most women have where they care more about materialistic gifts than money and other stuff. A woman will feel much better if you give her a flower that might cost you $2 instead of getting a $10 gift card from you, it's because they want attention and love and they often see this being a competition with other girls and women and you need to make sure you don't disappoint, lol.
A girl or a woman will always compare what you do with what others are doing with their wives or girlfriends, and if she finds out that others are getting better treatments than her, she will never be happy with her relationship with you and this is the biggest reason for breakups nowadays.
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It is cool after reading most replies on this thread, however, this said friend of mine sometimes told me how his girlfriend is used to make materialistic demands as if that would be the end of offers she would request from him. I mean to say she doesn't act economically with the conscience that there are periods of times that things doesn't work out well for persons. She just want to get what she wants without excuses. I have come across replies here agitating that the guy is not romantic, he's is not fit to have a girlfriend if he can not provide her needs, he should had purchase her some goodie gift from the $ and hand her over with the remaining cash. Hell no buddies! I guess most of us here doesn't understand that when you stand to be abided to a girls demands, you are likely to be under her command which she doesn't have ideals on how you struggles to gain your money and on that fact, she would definitely ruin the guys financial life because all she cares is bringing to her needs as if the money is something that is easy to get as little as her mindsets could be. For a girlfriend who is having financial challenges, materialistic items shouldn't be a point of target and when you have a man who is there to provide for you, don't overload him, help him manage his resources so as to expect better more ahead.
Realistic is when you're demanding your spouse have a similar lifestyle like yourself e.g. if you're live in a small apartment, just looking for a man that live in a small apartment or larger one. Materialistic is when you're demanding your spouse have a very high lifestyle than yourself e.g. if you're live in a small apartment, you don't want a man that live in a small apartment too, but you're looking for a man that live in a big castle and have McLaren. If I were your friend, I'd cut off the relationship with her. Just spend $50 for a prostitute and straightforward without any dramas. Why someone need to spend for $1K or more, spend a lot times and have many dramas, without any guarantee she want to fuck with you?
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February 17, 2024, 03:38:51 PM |
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Well, if a woman becomes uncontent, then it is a red flag. You see, if the guy is the one who works hard or works his ass, then because the guy gave a not-so-expensive gist, the girl would react badly or not be content? Wake up; those women are not worth it. Yes, they have the right to demand, but of course, see the stats of your partner before you ask for something that is out of budget or expect a gift that only a guy could attain with his current situation or status. Valentine's Day is not all about gifts or what; it's about how you will express your feelings to your partner, family, or friends. If both partners don't have enough money to buy gifts for each other, then be content to be together. It's not about money; it's about who and what you are celebrating. And for me, a woman who doesn't have the capability to buy things on her own is a red flag.
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February 17, 2024, 08:58:17 PM |
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Well, if a woman becomes uncontent, then it is a red flag. You see, if the guy is the one who works hard or works his ass, then because the guy gave a not-so-expensive gist, the girl would react badly or not be content? Wake up; those women are not worth it. Yes, they have the right to demand, but of course, see the stats of your partner before you ask for something that is out of budget or expect a gift that only a guy could attain with his current situation or status. Valentine's Day is not all about gifts or what; it's about how you will express your feelings to your partner, family, or friends. If both partners don't have enough money to buy gifts for each other, then be content to be together. It's not about money; it's about who and what you are celebrating. And for me, a woman who doesn't have the capability to buy things on her own is a red flag.
Your last line for me may sound an understatement for women. Not all women are capable to provide on their own most especially if they are left with nothing but kids at home. But yes, I have to agree, if they really aim to get it, they can find ways to make it happen. Now, back on the topic, the kind of girl in the story is not the type of a wife material, as she choses to be more materialistic than being practical. She should be thankful instead as the guy offers her extra money, which the girl badly needed in real life. However, every woman has different concepts on Valentine’s Day. But as for me, I’ll go for the one that accepts mo of who I am and what I can actually afford. The important thing is your presence when that event comes, so you can express your love and affection to the one you love.
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February 18, 2024, 06:22:49 AM |
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Economic problems are often a source of commotion for many couples, both those who are not married both are married. The number of needs that must be met is often a source of painting. Because it cannot be denied that money is important because everything we buy in this world does require money. The thing that we hear most often from girls is that he demands a fairly high standard from prospective partners. So, do not be surprised if a lot of girls are looking for a man who is financially established. Actually the choice of being a girl can be considered positive. Because it is appropriate for a guy to battle bones to be able to support his wife and children / their partners.
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February 18, 2024, 01:05:50 PM |
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Economic problems are often a source of commotion for many couples, both those who are not married both are married. The number of needs that must be met is often a source of painting. Because it cannot be denied that money is important because everything we buy in this world does require money. The thing that we hear most often from girls is that he demands a fairly high standard from prospective partners. So, do not be surprised if a lot of girls are looking for a man who is financially established. Actually the choice of being a girl can be considered positive. Because it is appropriate for a guy to battle bones to be able to support his wife and children / their partners.
In a household, economic problems will indeed become a problem if the husband does not have a sense of responsibility towards their family and there are also wives who demand too much from their husbands without looking at the condition of their husbands who have worked hard and do not have the money they can afford. obey what their wives ask and it would be better for them to encourage each other to be able to generate more income so that they can have the life they dream of and if they cannot get what they want, it is better for them to be grateful for what they have got. It's true, there are some women who look for financially stable men so they can have a decent life like they want, but they will leave the man when they no longer have the wealth they want.
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February 18, 2024, 10:00:58 PM Last edit: February 18, 2024, 10:11:32 PM by Distinctin |
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If the partner doesn't understand what you are trying to do then the relationship won't work, and generally the relationship in your teen or in 20s just long for a while not forever so never ever make decisions that may change your life for that person. We should not categorize women lacks financial sensibility but one who knows, know. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Let's just give the equality they have been protesting on the social media or just let them completely independent, don't take someone's burden as yours unless the person does the same for you. Its hard to stay in a relationship where mutual understanding is not practiced. That will only create some pressures between both of you. In the end, one may leave the other, or both will just end up get bored and lost interest with each other. So as early as now, know if you can hold on to that person. Women will be women, but let’s not judge them being insensible just because of a single event. Try explaining about the situation and your concerns about her money struggles. If she refuse to understand you, that may be a sign that she’s not fit for you. Better spend your time and money to other different matters.
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