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February 19, 2024, 05:17:52 AM
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Giving your girlfriend money instead of a gift is a bad idea. No wonder it's a bad idea around the world. It seems to me that the protagonist of the story doesn't understand women, to try to talk about money, or give her money the least ideal day of the year is Valentine's Day. And I am surprised by those who say that the one who did it wrong is the woman. They don't have a fucking clue about women either.

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February 19, 2024, 05:36:09 AM
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This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.
Perhaps it is not related to financial sensitivity as you call it. Perhaps this is a part of the personal nature of some people, whether men or women, who are sensitive to financial aid and refuse to take it because they have pride and believe that people pity them.

If your friend gave his girlfriend a gift, she would accept it and be very happy with it, even if it was only worth a few dollars, but giving her money instead of a gift may have made her feel that he pity her, and this is what caused her sensitivity and made her resentful.

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February 19, 2024, 05:55:26 AM
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Maybe the person that's gifted that money had no sense of timing, Valentine's Day is probably not the day that they should've taught their partner about financial responsibilities and how hard it is to make money. That day could've gone better if they just didn't mind that thing for that day.
Giving your girlfriend money instead of a gift is a bad idea. No wonder it's a bad idea around the world. It seems to me that the protagonist of the story doesn't understand women, to try to talk about money, or give her money the least ideal day of the year is Valentine's Day. And I am surprised by those who say that the one who did it wrong is the woman. They don't have a fucking clue about women either.
Dude I got to agree with this somewhat because the preference for gifts on this kind of occasion varies by the age, if it's young adult then definitely money is probably the worst thing that you can gift to them but if it's in the middle age or higher, money wouldn't be the worst thing that you can give to someone. This is just me but most gifts that are given to someone dear to us or we loved shouldn't be that expensive or cheap, it's the thought that counts as the saying goes. Regarding your surprise about women, there's a joke that I've heard that says that women hate other women or something like that unlike men.



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February 19, 2024, 10:08:14 AM
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A normal circumstances a marriage is being determined by male gender and the secondly the responsibility of family should be carried along with both side but the most important person that is the head is the man in the family not the woman so every man in the family have more responsibility to take care of the family with its own money not a woman's money they functions of woman is to support to render help to the man so that there will be not be loophole for the family I think that many people misunderstood the functions of both parents for a family

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February 19, 2024, 12:47:50 PM
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A normal circumstances a marriage is being determined by male gender and the secondly the responsibility of family should be carried along with both side but the most important person that is the head is the man in the family not the woman so every man in the family have more responsibility to take care of the family with its own money not a woman's money they functions of woman is to support to render help to the man so that there will be not be loophole for the family I think that many people misunderstood the functions of both parents for a family

In today's generation, most of the roles inside a home are equal, there are also many working wives who make money like their husbands, there are even a few who earn more wages than their husbands and I see nothing wrong with that as long as they do the same duties in their families. It's not a big deal now who earns the most, it's better that you both work, earn and take responsibility for your family especially since we know the hardships of life today, if you really want to save and improve your life, both of you should work together.



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February 19, 2024, 12:49:47 PM
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If it's your girlfriend, you should know her personality and what she likes and dislikes. You supposed to know her. Given that you have $50 budget for valentine's day, if you know your girlfriend is the type of person who likes receiving gift, you could've been thoughtful on what to give her. It's not about the amount, it's what will make her happy. With $50 you can give her something useful as well while adding effort, like a simple letter.

Yes, money is useful. But for valentine's day, it's kinda normal for women to expect something aside from money. Because thinking of something to give to your partner is also part of the effort which makes them feel loved. You can't say that a person lacks financial sensibility just because she expected a "gift" during valentine's and not money. It's a special day to celebrate love so like, at least show some effort... But there are people who appreciates money more rather than stuff with no uses. So you should really know what your partner likes. Consider the thought of the person you'll be giving a gift.
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February 19, 2024, 01:08:17 PM
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She expected me to purchase her items with the gifted money.

It looks like you're the one dating a materialistic girlfriend and not you friend. So you should man up and stop saying my friend's girlfriend. Grin

Ladies want to be loved, cared for and pampered with gifts, especially on an important day like the Valentine's day. However, just as all shoes have different sizes, that's how we all have different financial capacities. If a lady cannot accept or is not satisfied with the gifts and money I can shower her at my level. Then, It's a red flag for me and I'd gladly pack my bag and baggages and run a way, because I'll not steal to impress a lady.

You noticed that too. I thought I was the only one who noticed. I also think that the OP's girlfriend is what he is referring to; he is just pretending to be girlfrined by other people, but this is just my guess. Valentine's Day has become a tradition in other countries, including our country.

For two partners, if they truly love each other, whether there is something to give or not, but they wish Happy Valentines to each other, I don't think there will be any problem with that. But if one of them gets angry or hurt, I think that one of them has not really understood the true meaning of a relationship.


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February 19, 2024, 01:10:15 PM
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A normal circumstances a marriage is being determined by male gender and the secondly the responsibility of family should be carried along with both side but the most important person that is the head is the man in the family not the woman so every man in the family have more responsibility to take care of the family with its own money not a woman's money they functions of woman is to support to render help to the man so that there will be not be loophole for the family I think that many people misunderstood the functions of both parents for a family

In today's generation, most of the roles inside a home are equal, there are also many working wives who make money like their husbands, there are even a few who earn more wages than their husbands and I see nothing wrong with that as long as they do the same duties in their families. It's not a big deal now who earns the most, it's better that you both work, earn and take responsibility for your family especially since we know the hardships of life today, if you really want to save and improve your life, both of you should work together.
If both husband and wife work together, it is very good. When both of them get salary at the end of the month, they will have a lot of money.  Having children but they have to face many problems. Like education will not be proper. Children will not have people to take care of children properly. I think no other person can take care of children like mother.

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February 19, 2024, 01:26:33 PM
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A normal circumstances a marriage is being determined by male gender and the secondly the responsibility of family should be carried along with both side but the most important person that is the head is the man in the family not the woman so every man in the family have more responsibility to take care of the family with its own money not a woman's money they functions of woman is to support to render help to the man so that there will be not be loophole for the family I think that many people misunderstood the functions of both parents for a family
Each family is unique, and in our times the understanding that a man should provide for the family is a little biased, now there are quite a lot of successful women who can occupy good positions, or even manage a business and earn very well. For myself, I personally note that it is important for the husband and wife to manage the family budget together, if possible, then engage in joint business, this, to some extent, even holds it together.

A joint budget is joint plans and goals, for family it is important.
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February 19, 2024, 02:29:44 PM
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I don't know of the other side of the World, but in this side of the World, men are responsible for every financial responses in both marriage and the boy/girlfriends relationships.
The demands of financial expenses is being too much at the men sides.
Here, my friends girlfriend who is a university scholar that faces financial challenges is keeping my friend worried,
On the 14th Februarys which marks the "Valentines day"(lovers day) as it may imply, it is usually a special day here in this side of the World where couples and those in intimate relationships or even relatives do have it a remarkable day to spend together. It was likely a tradition that they must gift each other with what is affordable but gifted on a special offer.
The guys (men) are most expected to play this gifting role but here at this edge, my guy thought of having his girlfriend the sum of $50 cash believing she has more of financial issues to tackle than acquiring materialistic items (gifts). This is so she can utilize the money and add up to her educational fees or otherwise.
Now, she said the guy is not being caring and romantic simply because other persons to her notice are being gifted of materialistic items instead of money. She expected me to purchase her items with the gifted money.

This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.

Generally this is humans for you, I think in this story you narrated, I will say that the girl doesn't necessarily love his boyfriend considering the fact that the young man has a good plan for his girlfriend but she isn't contented with what the guy offer her, this is mind blowing, how will a girl that is of know economic value at the moment show this kind of ingratitude, though I can see how concerned the young man is, but as it stands he should be very careful because the sign are clear that his girl friend does not not value his input in her life, though I wouldn't be the one to decide for him but I believe that he knows what to do.

Sure a man is meant to provide for his family with the help of his wife not his girlfriend, I know girlfriend graduates to wife but not in all cases, an ungrateful fellow does not deserve to be part of some good stuffs, all the burden of the family should not be shouldered by the man alone.

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A normal circumstances a marriage is being determined by male gender and the secondly the responsibility of family should be carried along with both side but the most important person that is the head is the man in the family not the woman so every man in the family have more responsibility to take care of the family with its own money not a woman's money they functions of woman is to support to render help to the man so that there will be not be loophole for the family I think that many people misunderstood the functions of both parents for a family
Each family is unique, and in our times the understanding that a man should provide for the family is a little biased, now there are quite a lot of successful women who can occupy good positions, or even manage a business and earn very well. For myself, I personally note that it is important for the husband and wife to manage the family budget together, if possible, then engage in joint business, this, to some extent, even holds it together.

A joint budget is joint plans and goals, for family it is important.
That's right, nowadays we can see that women can be as successful at their jobs as men and there are even some women who can still take care of their families even though they have jobs and this may not be able to be done by men, because men -men will only be able to look for work to be able to meet their family's needs and regarding the family budget, of course it would be better if it could be managed together because without managing the household budget it would be very difficult to save for emergency needs or investment plans.

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I don't know of the other side of the World, but in this side of the World, men are responsible for every financial responses in both marriage and the boy/girlfriends relationships.
The demands of financial expenses is being too much at the men sides.
Who made it that way and what society is that, if I may ask? Culture is made for the benefit of mankind and as such any culture that becomes antagonistic should be stopped. Yes, stopped. I believe there are enough exposed and learned folks in your society, they should see the need to weigh in and reveal that obnoxious part of your culture. Women are supposed to be helpmate and partners in progress, especially when in a relationship or married.

On the other side of the $50 story, I think your friend wasn't emotionally commited to his relationship. How else wouldn't he have had an idea what's top priority on his girl's worries rather than giving her that cash because he wasn't sure. Anyway, I don't even know what those who celebrate Valentine's Day benefit from that. I don't see any need for it because love is supposed to be an everyday thing, not a once in a year thing.

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Giving your girlfriend money instead of a gift is a bad idea. No wonder it's a bad idea around the world. It seems to me that the protagonist of the story doesn't understand women, to try to talk about money, or give her money the least ideal day of the year is Valentine's Day. And I am surprised by those who say that the one who did it wrong is the woman. They don't have a fucking clue about women either.
Lol, I don't know why I had a grin throughout the time I was reading your response, maybe because I agree with it.  Grin
You can't make a woman or a girl wait for the whole year for that single day having dreams and wishes about what you might give her on the special occasion and then expect her to be happy when you take out a $20 bill or a $20 gift card and give it to her.  Grin That's like shattering her dreams into countless pieces.
Even I wouldn't be happy with that if I was a girl, lol.  Grin
So, it's better that a man understands women better than to blame them for not being happy when they are given money.

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February 19, 2024, 11:42:36 PM
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I don't know of the other side of the World, but in this side of the World, men are responsible for every financial responses in both marriage and the boy/girlfriends relationships.
The demands of financial expenses is being too much at the men sides.
Here, my friends girlfriend who is a university scholar that faces financial challenges is keeping my friend worried,
On the 14th Februarys which marks the "Valentines day"(lovers day) as it may imply, it is usually a special day here in this side of the World where couples and those in intimate relationships or even relatives do have it a remarkable day to spend together. It was likely a tradition that they must gift each other with what is affordable but gifted on a special offer.
The guys (men) are most expected to play this gifting role but here at this edge, my guy thought of having his girlfriend the sum of $50 cash believing she has more of financial issues to tackle than acquiring materialistic items (gifts). This is so she can utilize the money and add up to her educational fees or otherwise.
Now, she said the guy is not being caring and romantic simply because other persons to her notice are being gifted of materialistic items instead of money. She expected me to purchase her items with the gifted money.

This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.

sorry in advance, you are in the wrong position, not all women want expensive and luxurious gifts on Valentine's Day, small things such as flowers and other romantic items can definitely lift your woman's mood, women's minds are complicated and if you are in a relationship with someone in After a long time, you should already know what is on the woman's mind.
women are taught by their parents to have a relationship with someone who is great, someone who diligently earns money and responsible, even though you are rich and have a great job if you don't pay attention to your woman then believe me your relationship will be destroyed, after all a woman is still a woman, money is important but effort is much more important.



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This is the nature of things and we as men must be truly prepared for this. It may seem sensitive, but as we continue our journey in life, the responsibility is not only for the flowers given to our partner in the future, but more and more, namely our children.

Indeed, it is necessary to find someone who understands, but over time getting money is also very difficult except for those who are lucky with everything. Yes. However, mutual sensitivity is also needed for balance to occur.

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A normal circumstances a marriage is being determined by male gender and the secondly the responsibility of family should be carried along with both side but the most important person that is the head is the man in the family not the woman so every man in the family have more responsibility to take care of the family with its own money not a woman's money they functions of woman is to support to render help to the man so that there will be not be loophole for the family I think that many people misunderstood the functions of both parents for a family
arguably in modern world, its not like that anymore, its all about being a partner, when it comes to financial condition in a family, partner will definitely try to fill up the lack of each other.
therefore when it comes to finance, both men and women that are in marriage definitely have their own freedom of earning money also spend it on their own but also understand that they are partner so the finance goes both way.
I think thats fair way of modern living these days, its not always the traditional lifestyles.
when it comes to this kind of thing like valentine, i think its more of tradition that has been passed down from generation to generation, men give gift to women, thats the essence of it and I think
what happened like what has been described by OP is that, the other side wanted that essence of tradition but the other side also think too much about the finance condition.
if you think about it, thanksigiving also is a tradition like valentine.

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Giving your girlfriend money instead of a gift is a bad idea. No wonder it's a bad idea around the world. It seems to me that the protagonist of the story doesn't understand women, to try to talk about money, or give her money the least ideal day of the year is Valentine's Day. And I am surprised by those who say that the one who did it wrong is the woman. They don't have a fucking clue about women either.
I disagree with you, giving your girlfriend money is not a bad idea if truly you want to marry the girl in the future because there are some things you will do to your girlfriend by giving her money to pay for her school fees, house rent, food items, clothes which are part of the things girls use to identify true love.


 Valentine day is a lover day which is very common to students in the campus and, if you don't use that opportunity to show your girlfriend love, you may loose your girlfriend because am talking from experience which girls don't use to listen to any  guy that fail to show love on valentine day.

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Run! Just kidding, quite of a turn off in my perspective. First of all, a gift is a gift; meaning it comes through one's initiative and no matter what it is, it should be appreciated since the not all people will do the same thing for you. To be appreciated, you have to know how to appreciate first; that's the rule.
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Giving your girlfriend money instead of a gift is a bad idea. No wonder it's a bad idea around the world. It seems to me that the protagonist of the story doesn't understand women, to try to talk about money, or give her money the least ideal day of the year is Valentine's Day. And I am surprised by those who say that the one who did it wrong is the woman. They don't have a fucking clue about women either.
I disagree with you, giving your girlfriend money is not a bad idea if truly you want to marry the girl in the future because there are some things you will do to your girlfriend by giving her money to pay for her school fees, house rent, food items, clothes which are part of the things girls use to identify true love.


 Valentine day is a lover day which is very common to students in the campus and, if you don't use that opportunity to show your girlfriend love, you may loose your girlfriend because am talking from experience which girls don't use to listen to any  guy that fail to show love on valentine day.

Money is indeed an option however, it is just right to demand for it? I highly doubt. We re talking about money as a gift. If she really needed money then she should have asked to borrow for it and to state her purpose of doing so, also on the other day given that celebration is a concern in the given situation.

Although it was mentioned that the money she hopes for will be used on educational purposes, would it be valid to somewhat ruin the celebration or the act and effort that a man still gave you something to show how he appreciate you? I will never be complaining of a gift especially from a person you often show your love to.

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I don't know of the other side of the World, but in this side of the World, men are responsible for every financial responses in both marriage and the boy/girlfriends relationships.
The demands of financial expenses is being too much at the men sides.
Here, my friends girlfriend who is a university scholar that faces financial challenges is keeping my friend worried,
On the 14th Februarys which marks the "Valentines day"(lovers day) as it may imply, it is usually a special day here in this side of the World where couples and those in intimate relationships or even relatives do have it a remarkable day to spend together. It was likely a tradition that they must gift each other with what is affordable but gifted on a special offer.
The guys (men) are most expected to play this gifting role but here at this edge, my guy thought of having his girlfriend the sum of $50 cash believing she has more of financial issues to tackle than acquiring materialistic items (gifts). This is so she can utilize the money and add up to her educational fees or otherwise.
Now, she said the guy is not being caring and romantic simply because other persons to her notice are being gifted of materialistic items instead of money. She expected me to purchase her items with the gifted money.

This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.

People want to feel valued by their partner or lover. There are many ways to show this. There is no special day to show appreciation. It is nice to show your appreciation for your loved one with gifts or surprises on February 14th or any day other than February 14th. Of course, there is an important point here and that is how much two people know each other.

You may have many role models around you, but every relationship has different details. Therefore, in such cases, it may be better to focus on how the other person can be happy rather than financial sensitivity. Financial matters are also important and individuals need to get along well with each other, this should not be forgotten, but there is a time for everything.

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February 20, 2024, 06:06:54 PM
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The gap between men and women is definitely shrinking, but it's not there yet. We still gotta fight for equal opportunities, no matter what's between your legs. That means everyone gets a fair shot, and nobody gets stuck doing stuff they hate just because of some outdated rules. Now, about sharing responsibilities. Forget the 50/50 stuff. Every couple's different, with their own strengths and weaknesses. Some might split the bills down the middle, while others might do it based on who makes more. The key is talking it out and being flexible, like a chameleon on a disco floor.

Instead of getting hung up on roles, think of yourselves as a team. You both bring different things to the table, and that's what makes it work. Respect each other, support each other, and figure out what works best for you. Equality ain't about flipping the script and making everyone the same. It's about giving everyone the freedom to choose who they wanna be and what they wanna do, without some dusty old rules holding them back. So ditch the labels, embrace the teamwork, and let's build a world where everyone can win, regardless of gender.

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