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February 20, 2024, 07:48:39 PM
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I don't know of the other side of the World, but in this side of the World, men are responsible for every financial responses in both marriage and the boy/girlfriends relationships.
The demands of financial expenses is being too much at the men sides.
Here, my friends girlfriend who is a university scholar that faces financial challenges is keeping my friend worried,
On the 14th Februarys which marks the "Valentines day"(lovers day) as it may imply, it is usually a special day here in this side of the World where couples and those in intimate relationships or even relatives do have it a remarkable day to spend together. It was likely a tradition that they must gift each other with what is affordable but gifted on a special offer.
The guys (men) are most expected to play this gifting role but here at this edge, my guy thought of having his girlfriend the sum of $50 cash believing she has more of financial issues to tackle than acquiring materialistic items (gifts). This is so she can utilize the money and add up to her educational fees or otherwise.
Now, she said the guy is not being caring and romantic simply because other persons to her notice are being gifted of materialistic items instead of money. She expected me to purchase her items with the gifted money.

This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.

People want to feel valued by their partner or lover. There are many ways to show this. There is no special day to show appreciation. It is nice to show your appreciation for your loved one with gifts or surprises on February 14th or any day other than February 14th. Of course, there is an important point here and that is how much two people know each other.

You may have many role models around you, but every relationship has different details. Therefore, in such cases, it may be better to focus on how the other person can be happy rather than financial sensitivity. Financial matters are also important and individuals need to get along well with each other, this should not be forgotten, but there is a time for everything.
There are really partners who are just like this but in the sense that having that kind of demand or something that ask or demanded on something which is expensive then i could say that this is already that too excessive or something that wont really be right as a partner. Making demands as if you are really that having the rights when it comes to money is never been right. You both arent married and you are
still in a relationship and it would really be that shameful if you do ask out something just to make you feel that you are important? I cant imagine if i do have this kind of girlfriend specially that i dont have
much money for gifts or whatsoever.  Grin

So if you are really just that fine with this kind of behavior with your loved ones then its your call but if not then it would be also your decision
whether you would pursue this kind of relationship or not.

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February 21, 2024, 06:01:08 PM
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If the partner doesn't understand what you are trying to do then the relationship won't work, and generally the relationship in your teen or in 20s just long for a while not forever so never ever make decisions that may change your life for that person.

We should not categorize women lacks financial sensibility but one who knows, know.  Grin

Let's just give the equality they have been protesting on the social media or just let them completely independent, don't take someone's burden as yours unless the person does the same for you.
Its hard to stay in a relationship where mutual understanding is not practiced. That will only create some pressures between both of you. In the end, one may leave the other, or both will just end up get bored and lost interest with each other.

So as early as now, know if you can hold on to that person. Women will be women, but let’s not judge them being insensible just because of a single event. Try explaining about the situation and your concerns about her money struggles. If she refuse to understand you, that may be a sign that she’s not fit for you. Better spend your time and money to other different matters.

Another perspective is, she just wants to solve her problems on her won and doesn't want her partner to take responsibility for her financial needs which is a healthy event but as per OP statement, she wanted gift for that money is worth not just the actual money cause she feel money is irrelevant but the fact is money if the mother of all problems and solutions. As said, if this is happening more than a few times then better split in good terms and wait for the right partner.

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February 22, 2024, 03:11:01 AM
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This is a cultural thing as well. In some nations while women work a lot, in some other nations it's still a gap, men work far more than the women work. In those nations, women do not work as much, sure some of them do, but not as many of them as some other nations. Because of this, there is an arrangement between the guy and the woman, the woman stays at home, cooks meal, cleans, washes the dishes, cleans the clothes, irons, takes care of the child, all of these are still very very hard work, as someone who has been single for a while in my life, I can say that it's a great pain to do all those too.

However, because you have an agreement that she does that and you go work, it means you are responsible for getting her gifts during these special days, things she wouldn't be able to buy for herself. Cultural differences, it's okay to have multiple different type of cultures in this regard.

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February 22, 2024, 08:04:42 AM
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Men have a role as leaders and are responsible for providing for the people they love, including their wives or girlfriends who have been in a relationship for a long time. The spoiled and sensitive nature that cannot be separated from women means that men must be open to their partners in everything, including when they are experiencing financial problems. You must always be open with your partner about your financial condition. A woman who understands your situation will not demand things that you cannot fulfill.

Women must understand the situation their partner is experiencing, forcing their will or comparing their partner to other people will make men even more depressed. Romance doesn't have to be all about luxury, simple things can also be moments that are hard to forget if a woman can understand the situation her partner is going through.

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February 22, 2024, 08:20:12 AM
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Men have a role as leaders and are responsible for providing for the people they love, including their wives or girlfriends who have been in a relationship for a long time. The spoiled and sensitive nature that cannot be separated from women means that men must be open to their partners in everything, including when they are experiencing financial problems. You must always be open with your partner about your financial condition. A woman who understands your situation will not demand things that you cannot fulfill.

Women must understand the situation their partner is experiencing, forcing their will or comparing their partner to other people will make men even more depressed. Romance doesn't have to be all about luxury, simple things can also be moments that are hard to forget if a woman can understand the situation her partner is going through.
One of the things that i dont really like is on really having that kind of comparison with other husbands specially within our relatives or even on friends on which it do really sucks on that case.
I havent been able to experience it though but having that kind of situation could really be leading up that kind of anger and frustration on having those kind comparisons.
Its true that whenever we do choose our loved ones or someone who do really want to be with us for the rest of our life then it would be someone who do really understands and knows you
and without having no sense of hiding something or whatever that pertaining into it.

On the time that these couples are really just that months old then im not really shocked that they would really be resorting into these kind of decisions for the sake of money.
They would really be that too easy for them to trash out that relationship since they arent still that too long for them to mind each other.
Money is almost everything.  Cheesy

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February 22, 2024, 02:15:27 PM
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Men have a role as leaders and are responsible for providing for the people they love, including their wives or girlfriends who have been in a relationship for a long time. The spoiled and sensitive nature that cannot be separated from women means that men must be open to their partners in everything, including when they are experiencing financial problems. You must always be open with your partner about your financial condition. A woman who understands your situation will not demand things that you cannot fulfill.

Women must understand the situation their partner is experiencing, forcing their will or comparing their partner to other people will make men even more depressed. Romance doesn't have to be all about luxury, simple things can also be moments that are hard to forget if a woman can understand the situation her partner is going through.
One of the things that i dont really like is on really having that kind of comparison with other husbands specially within our relatives or even on friends on which it do really sucks on that case.
I havent been able to experience it though but having that kind of situation could really be leading up that kind of anger and frustration on having those kind comparisons.
Its true that whenever we do choose our loved ones or someone who do really want to be with us for the rest of our life then it would be someone who do really understands and knows you
and without having no sense of hiding something or whatever that pertaining into it.

On the time that these couples are really just that months old then im not really shocked that they would really be resorting into these kind of decisions for the sake of money.
They would really be that too easy for them to trash out that relationship since they arent still that too long for them to mind each other.
Money is almost everything.  Cheesy
No doubt, comparing couples is low. Not only feeling inadequate or superior; missing the point. In relationships, there's no competition. They promote understanding, respect, and growth. Comparing your mate to others sets you up for failure. It's about you and your partner, not them

Money is important, but not everything. Early in a relationship, emotional investment is low, making it easy to end for financial gain. Money is transient. Real, deep, lasting relationships are about surviving storms together, not bailing out at the first hint of hardship. This is a character test, not a money strategy. Understanding this puts you ahead of the curve

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February 22, 2024, 03:07:17 PM
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Rules like that ain't practical anymore.

Your girlfriend is never your responsibility, especially when it comes to funding her education, because you're not even married, you're just dating. If your girl get mad at you because you didn't buy her gifts on certain occasion, leave her while it's still early. It's not mandatory for you to spend things on her, since you're still struggling with yourself, just spend the money you can afford to date someone.

Always remember that a girlfriend and a wife is a different thing, and there should be always a gender equality. If you pay for something, she should pay for something else in which both parties would be benefited.
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February 22, 2024, 04:32:31 PM
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Every person's financial situation is different. Some are financially well off, some are poor.  Now if a partner does not understand his financial situation and expects expensive gifts then she is not considered as an ideal partner.  You must expect your friend/husband/boyfriend financially.  Such demand is more observed among the girls of this age.  Of course, before choosing a partner, you should look at his mentality.  Choose friends considering your emotional similarity with yourself.

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I don't know of the other side of the World, but in this side of the World, men are responsible for every financial responses in both marriage and the boy/girlfriends relationships.
The demands of financial expenses is being too much at the men sides.
Here, my friends girlfriend who is a university scholar that faces financial challenges is keeping my friend worried,
On the 14th Februarys which marks the "Valentines day"(lovers day) as it may imply, it is usually a special day here in this side of the World where couples and those in intimate relationships or even relatives do have it a remarkable day to spend together. It was likely a tradition that they must gift each other with what is affordable but gifted on a special offer.
The guys (men) are most expected to play this gifting role but here at this edge, my guy thought of having his girlfriend the sum of $50 cash believing she has more of financial issues to tackle than acquiring materialistic items (gifts). This is so she can utilize the money and add up to her educational fees or otherwise.
Now, she said the guy is not being caring and romantic simply because other persons to her notice are being gifted of materialistic items instead of money. She expected me to purchase her items with the gifted money.

This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.
Yes, that's how most women are, indeed women tend to be sensitive, but i think she is only sensitive to the words of others around her and not sensitive to the finances and efforts of men who are her backbone. Sometimes they don't seem to appreciate their man's efforts if he can't fulfill their financial needs..I am reminded of the saying that a successful man has a great woman behind him. In essence, the woman in question must be a woman who supports behind the scenes.
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she probably just wants a small little gift thats more suited for the theme of valentine not necessarily a thing about money or something expensive.
remember that when giving gift you should match the theme, giving money is simply ridiculous not to mention its just a small sum.
can't blame her entirely though, at valentine being given out some money probably the last think she would think would be happening.
if you more sensible, you could be giving gift that actually are priced less than $50 and save up some money for later. but thats just my 2 cents alright.
There are person who are like that who value the moment more, more than the money but isn't it great? It means we can save more money on them, not only time though because we need to make an effort to make the things that they like happen but that still has a benefit and it can give us a good feeling.

It's important to save money for our selves so that we will have a better future, not only for us but also to our future partners and that person may not be the person who we are dating now this valentines. This is why it's important to be careful on who we are spending our money with because we don't know maybe they are only using us?

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I don't know of the other side of the World, but in this side of the World, men are responsible for every financial responses in both marriage and the boy/girlfriends relationships.
In our lives the responsibility for women only after they marry us and men do not have the responsibility for girlfriends regarding financial responses to their necessities of life.

Now, she said the guy is not being caring and romantic simply because other persons to her notice are being gifted of materialistic items instead of money. She expected me to purchase her items with the gifted money.

This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.
I want to speak after marriage not when dating and we should direct women not the other way about those who regulate us. Generally, women prefer to be rewarded with their favorite items and that does not mean that the gift is given every week because when we are married there are times when we give gifts to our wife every time an important moment in the relationship. The husband also should not be too stingy to the wife because the source of sustenance sometimes also comes from his prayer, so giving a gift is something that is commonly done as long as it is not excessive.

If women are directed at the right path then I am sure they will ask for something based on appropriateness because in fact they understand the condition of her husband. It is precisely the woman who asked for great demands from the husband because of the husband's mistakes himself because it was too spoiled and not being a matter of heading as the head of the household.

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Men have a role as leaders and are responsible for providing for the people they love, including their wives or girlfriends who have been in a relationship for a long time. The spoiled and sensitive nature that cannot be separated from women means that men must be open to their partners in everything, including when they are experiencing financial problems. You must always be open with your partner about your financial condition. A woman who understands your situation will not demand things that you cannot fulfill.

Women must understand the situation their partner is experiencing, forcing their will or comparing their partner to other people will make men even more depressed. Romance doesn't have to be all about luxury, simple things can also be moments that are hard to forget if a woman can understand the situation her partner is going through.
I have a different take on this when you say wife or girlfriend. I think when we are still dating it is not our full responsibility, indeed we also need to give something that can make them happy, but in my opinion do not equate with what we will give after we get married again, or in other words we must have limits in treating a girlfriend. I do not mean to say that we should not give anything, but we must have a difference between treating a girlfriend and a wife later, I am sure you understand what I mean.
Many people experience bad things when dating, they give a lot of money and so on, but behind they even cheat with other men, or in the sense that they only take advantage of our sincerity. Unlike the case when we are married, it is our full responsibility.

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February 22, 2024, 06:52:14 PM
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Men have a role as leaders and are responsible for providing for the people they love, including their wives or girlfriends who have been in a relationship for a long time. The spoiled and sensitive nature that cannot be separated from women means that men must be open to their partners in everything, including when they are experiencing financial problems. You must always be open with your partner about your financial condition. A woman who understands your situation will not demand things that you cannot fulfill.

Women must understand the situation their partner is experiencing, forcing their will or comparing their partner to other people will make men even more depressed. Romance doesn't have to be all about luxury, simple things can also be moments that are hard to forget if a woman can understand the situation her partner is going through.
I have a different take on this when you say wife or girlfriend. I think when we are still dating it is not our full responsibility, indeed we also need to give something that can make them happy, but in my opinion do not equate with what we will give after we get married again, or in other words we must have limits in treating a girlfriend. I do not mean to say that we should not give anything, but we must have a difference between treating a girlfriend and a wife later, I am sure you understand what I mean.
Many people experience bad things when dating, they give a lot of money and so on, but behind they even cheat with other men, or in the sense that they only take advantage of our sincerity. Unlike the case when we are married, it is our full responsibility.

Everything could really still happen since you arent still that engaged, this is why when it comes to gifts on which im not really that much making it too expensive. Love couldnt really be that shown
on how expensive your gift is and on the time that your girlfriend is already that having those kind of standards or trying out to be that asking for expensive things then i would say that its better to leave her
while its still early on which appreciating small things whether big or small, expensive or cheap then this is the qualities that i do look for.

If you do find out that it is really that going against your financial capability or something that you cant afford but in the sense that you love her and taking up some loans
already just to give out on what she wants or desires then this is where problems do rises gradually without you knowing until it gets bigger.
So better avoid while early.

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I think this culture is not good to maintain, especially with unstable financial conditions and having to manage as best as possible for tuition or education rather than spending it on Valentine's traditions. If you are in a good financial position, it is not big problem when giving gift on Valentine's Day to a girl friend, but with unstable financial conditions and having to prioritize education money, I think the culture and demands for gifts on Valentine's Day can be eliminated.
Open your eyes and looking around which one most important in your life with not really well financial condition, love or your education, don't make your self more amazing if you get lack financial and bullshit with Valentine's Day you must gift more expensive for your girl friend except for your wife.

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February 22, 2024, 08:23:54 PM
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Thanks to social media nowadays that are portraying people to become materialistic. Those videos that have been about giving their dates material things and gifting them money probably have influenced a lot of people not just yours and your friends but many, as in.

Celebration isn't just all about receiving or gifting but also about the time that you're spending together and having some good laughs.

People have forgotten about romantic dates and not just all about these material possessions. It is really true that chivalry is gone.
Thank you man, I totally agree with you because alot of person have forgotten the whole essence of these celebration because of the constant brainwash by the new trend of these generations about gifting and wasting money on material things. Over here in my country is even worst because you can't have a good relationship again without the lady completely blowing it off with material wants and demands. Social media is really doing things and it's probably the most influential place to be and most the whole society is falling to the syndrome and very soon the old habits of these celebration will be no more if not actually gone already.
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I have a different take on this when you say wife or girlfriend. I think when we are still dating it is not our full responsibility, indeed we also need to give something that can make them happy, but in my opinion do not equate with what we will give after we get married again, or in other words we must have limits in treating a girlfriend. I do not mean to say that we should not give anything, but we must have a difference between treating a girlfriend and a wife later, I am sure you understand what I mean.
Many people experience bad things when dating, they give a lot of money and so on, but behind they even cheat with other men, or in the sense that they only take advantage of our sincerity. Unlike the case when we are married, it is our full responsibility.

Everything could really still happen since you arent still that engaged, this is why when it comes to gifts on which im not really that much making it too expensive. Love couldnt really be that shown
on how expensive your gift is and on the time that your girlfriend is already that having those kind of standards or trying out to be that asking for expensive things then i would say that its better to leave her
while its still early on which appreciating small things whether big or small, expensive or cheap then this is the qualities that i do look for.

If you do find out that it is really that going against your financial capability or something that you cant afford but in the sense that you love her and taking up some loans
already just to give out on what she wants or desires then this is where problems do rises gradually without you knowing until it gets bigger.
So better avoid while early.
Well right, we should really look for a partner who can appreciate us, not just look from the material side. I understand material is something important, but when our partner or our boyfriend or girlfriend has started to overdo it, it is better to consider carefully whether it is worth taking it to a more serious level or not, because after all, someone's true nature during dating in my opinion has not come out completely.
Mutual respect or understanding is the most important thing in a relationship, we cannot force our ego to always be in a position to be appreciated, while we do not give it to our partner, in my opinion it is something that is not wise at all.
Surely we will try to make our partner happy, but again there are certain limits if the status is still a girlfriend.

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I don't know of the other side of the World, but in this side of the World, men are responsible for every financial responses in both marriage and the boy/girlfriends relationships.
The demands of financial expenses is being too much at the men sides.
Here, my friends girlfriend who is a university scholar that faces financial challenges is keeping my friend worried,
On the 14th Februarys which marks the "Valentines day"(lovers day) as it may imply, it is usually a special day here in this side of the World where couples and those in intimate relationships or even relatives do have it a remarkable day to spend together. It was likely a tradition that they must gift each other with what is affordable but gifted on a special offer.
The guys (men) are most expected to play this gifting role but here at this edge, my guy thought of having his girlfriend the sum of $50 cash believing she has more of financial issues to tackle than acquiring materialistic items (gifts). This is so she can utilize the money and add up to her educational fees or otherwise.
Now, she said the guy is not being caring and romantic simply because other persons to her notice are being gifted of materialistic items instead of money. She expected me to purchase her items with the gifted money.

This is just how awkward and lack of financial sensibilities some women could be who just sits, makes demands and gets what they wanted without having the compassions of how hard it is to make the money's they spends so carelessly.

    In your story, your girlfriend seems materialistic. I think in that regard, you should accept that your girlfriend is like that. Because if you can't accept it in his personality, it's best to break up with her as soon as possible because she's materialistic, but this is just a piece of advice if you know to yourself that you don't love her for real.

    But if you love her, her materialistic nature is not an obstacle just to destroy the love you have for her, right? But I hope and should also accept for the woman you love what you can give her; she should be able to appreciate whether you have or don't have.

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   In your story, your girlfriend seems materialistic. I think in that regard, you should accept that your girlfriend is like that. Because if you can't accept it in his personality, it's best to break up with her as soon as possible because she's materialistic, but this is just a piece of advice if you know to yourself that you don't love her for real.
If his girlfriend is a woman, I think it is very common for women to have a materialistic nature. Because most women really hope that the man who loves them is someone who is able to give them more things, especially in terms of money and several other things. Meanwhile, men also want to see a woman who is really good and can support him when he is struggling to get money or whatever he wants. So men also very often choose and make comparisons with several women before making them their girlfriends in life.

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   But if you love her, her materialistic nature is not an obstacle just to destroy the love you have for her, right? But I hope and should also accept for the woman you love what you can give her; she should be able to appreciate whether you have or don't have.
If the love only comes from one side, or only comes from the OP as a man in that case, I don't think the love will last long if the boyfriend doesn't love the OP as a good man for him. So the woman won't last long with the OP if one day the OP is no longer able to fulfill what the woman wants, so the OP also has to think about this now so that her romantic path doesn't hit a dead end one day. Because love that lasts a long time is love that comes from both sides and will continue to want to complement each other in every condition in their lives.
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February 23, 2024, 04:35:20 PM
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The tradition of domestic expenditures and other social outings are often reposed on men worldwide. Also, the concept referred to as Breadwinner is akin to the male partner  in social relationship. But in the African continent in particular, it is the male who bears the burden of financial expenditures than the female counterpart.
However, in the case of valentine day, reason prevails that both sexes should agree on a certain amount to be spent before going out to resort centres. It should not be a road side picked partner.
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February 23, 2024, 11:06:45 PM
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she probably just wants a small little gift thats more suited for the theme of valentine not necessarily a thing about money or something expensive.
remember that when giving gift you should match the theme, giving money is simply ridiculous not to mention its just a small sum.
can't blame her entirely though, at valentine being given out some money probably the last think she would think would be happening.
if you more sensible, you could be giving gift that actually are priced less than $50 and save up some money for later. but thats just my 2 cents alright.
There are person who are like that who value the moment more, more than the money but isn't it great? It means we can save more money on them, not only time though because we need to make an effort to make the things that they like happen but that still has a benefit and it can give us a good feeling.

It's important to save money for our selves so that we will have a better future, not only for us but also to our future partners and that person may not be the person who we are dating now this valentines. This is why it's important to be careful on who we are spending our money with because we don't know maybe they are only using us?

Usually when people save money, it's not always for someone, but it's for things you want to get or sometimes it can be used for unexpected things that happen to us that part of the money is to solve the problem

that's why sometimes it's a big contribution that we have money saved so that we can grab something from our pockets during times of crisis, even if we don't ask for help from others.


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