[Boxing]: Taylor vs Catterall - May 26

[coin-investor]

That's right, I also slightly favoring Catterall now, it looks like Josh Taylor is really on the verge of retirement and maybe after this fight and losing he might be thinking of hanging up his gloves for good.

He has been damage already in the first fight and we all know how he lost his last belt to Teo Lopez and now he had injuries that this fight is postpone again. But fortunately, it was move and rescheduled and this is fight week already. So let's see how Taylor will look like in this fight. If Catterall really prepared in this fight, he could be looking for a knockout win here.

For the record Taylor only has one loss and its against Teofimo Lopez but Caterall is not Teofimo so I don't rule out Taylor yet, when you're a boxer and you are fighting a fighter you once beaten the psychological advantage is on your side, although the fight is too close both fighters will make a good adjustment, since they have learned a lot from their last fight.

Taylor needs to win this fight to get into contention for another title shot and Caterall will try to prove that he is the winner of the first fight by trying to dominate Taylor.

Usually when there is a rematch the fight will take off where they left with some adjustment to favor them so its will another an all out of winner take all fight between the two.

Meanwhile this is the open work out live stream of their fight
JOSH TAYLOR VS. JACK CATTERALL 2 OPEN WORKOUTS LIVESTREAM

But you did know that the fight is controversial, Catterall even knock down Taylor in round 8 if I'm not mistaken and Jack lost a very close score in the judges scorecard and there are fans who says that Catterall was robbed in that first fight. And there is a rematch, which was postponed time and time again until Josh Taylor decided not to fight and go to Teo which is a bad decision. And again, Taylor suffered a injury and they rescheduled it. So with that, I will agree that maybe Taylor is not mentally prepared against Catterall here and that's why he become the underdog. And lucky for those who might bet on Catterall early when he was still a underdog.

It is a controversial fight, and the reaction of the fans and Caterrall is just obvious, but if we watched Taylor's interview, he believed 100% that he won the match when asked about his rhythm, he told the interviewer that he might be off, but he did good and deserved the win, the  confidence is on Taylor, but the motivation is on Caterrall so on the night of the fight it will be settled.

All the judges in the coming fight are fully aware of what happened, so they will decide rightly on this one. However, for both fighters, it's better for them to go all out and go for a knockout and not put it in the judges' hands.
We fans don't like to see results that are different from what we witnessed.

[Yaunfitda]

And just to motivate anyone,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JEwQ626ne0

So it's question whether Josh Taylor can make weight at 140 lbs. And his trainer says that he will. And Jack says that this will be Josh's last ring walk, but Josh is unfazed and just totally laugh it off. I do agree that there is no belt in the line, but the hatred between the two are genuine here.

[TravelMug]

That's right, I also slightly favoring Catterall now, it looks like Josh Taylor is really on the verge of retirement and maybe after this fight and losing he might be thinking of hanging up his gloves for good.

He has been damage already in the first fight and we all know how he lost his last belt to Teo Lopez and now he had injuries that this fight is postpone again. But fortunately, it was move and rescheduled and this is fight week already. So let's see how Taylor will look like in this fight. If Catterall really prepared in this fight, he could be looking for a knockout win here.

For the record Taylor only has one loss and its against Teofimo Lopez but Caterall is not Teofimo so I don't rule out Taylor yet, when you're a boxer and you are fighting a fighter you once beaten the psychological advantage is on your side, although the fight is too close both fighters will make a good adjustment, since they have learned a lot from their last fight.

Taylor needs to win this fight to get into contention for another title shot and Caterall will try to prove that he is the winner of the first fight by trying to dominate Taylor.

Usually when there is a rematch the fight will take off where they left with some adjustment to favor them so its will another an all out of winner take all fight between the two.

Meanwhile this is the open work out live stream of their fight
JOSH TAYLOR VS. JACK CATTERALL 2 OPEN WORKOUTS LIVESTREAM

But you did know that the fight is controversial, Catterall even knock down Taylor in round 8 if I'm not mistaken and Jack lost a very close score in the judges scorecard and there are fans who says that Catterall was robbed in that first fight. And there is a rematch, which was postponed time and time again until Josh Taylor decided not to fight and go to Teo which is a bad decision. And again, Taylor suffered a injury and they rescheduled it. So with that, I will agree that maybe Taylor is not mentally prepared against Catterall here and that's why he become the underdog. And lucky for those who might bet on Catterall early when he was still a underdog.

It is a controversial fight, and the reaction of the fans and Caterrall is just obvious, but if we watched Taylor's interview, he believed 100% that he won the match when asked about his rhythm, he told the interviewer that he might be off, but he did good and deserved the win, the  confidence is on Taylor, but the motivation is on Caterrall so on the night of the fight it will be settled.

All the judges in the coming fight are fully aware of what happened, so they will decide rightly on this one. However, for both fighters, it's better for them to go all out and go for a knockout and not put it in the judges' hands.
We fans don't like to see results that are different from what we witnessed.

It's obvious that the boxers are not going to admit for such defeat, even Fury in his last fight against Usyk thinks he still won. But it's very different when the fans see that Taylor really lost the first fight and that's why they should have a immediate rematch that didn't happen until Taylor has no belt and it looks like he is way past his prime. I rewatch his fight against Pedraza when he captures the last belt for his unification and his first fight against Catterall and it's totally different version of Josh Taylor. And then after that he losses to Teo Lopez. So let's see if he can turn back the clock and dominate Jack here or Catterall shows us that he should be the winner of the first fight if he beat Taylor this time in a clear fashion.

[coin-investor]

It's obvious that the boxers are not going to admit for such defeat, even Fury in his last fight against Usyk thinks he still won. But it's very different when the fans see that Taylor really lost the first fight and that's why they should have a immediate rematch that didn't happen until Taylor has no belt and it looks like he is way past his prime. I rewatch his fight against Pedraza when he captures the last belt for his unification and his first fight against Catterall and it's totally different version of Josh Taylor. And then after that he losses to Teo Lopez. So let's see if he can turn back the clock and dominate Jack here or Catterall shows us that he should be the winner of the first fight if he beat Taylor this time in a clear fashion.

This is what makes this fight interesting one former champion who will try to prove that he still has it and one guy who many think was robbed of becoming a champion.

It's just unfortunate for Caterrall that in their rematch Taylor is not the champion anymore, but if he can beat Taylor then he could become an immediate challenger for Teofimo Lopez.

Both fighters are desperate for a win and I don't think they will want to leave in the scorecard but if ever it goes the distance the judges better make the right decision, they cannot afford another controversial decision between these two fighters.

On their press conference Jack is standing on his prediction that he will knock out Taylor in round 7 this is big words indeed so let's see.

[Kemarit]

It's obvious that the boxers are not going to admit for such defeat, even Fury in his last fight against Usyk thinks he still won. But it's very different when the fans see that Taylor really lost the first fight and that's why they should have a immediate rematch that didn't happen until Taylor has no belt and it looks like he is way past his prime. I rewatch his fight against Pedraza when he captures the last belt for his unification and his first fight against Catterall and it's totally different version of Josh Taylor. And then after that he losses to Teo Lopez. So let's see if he can turn back the clock and dominate Jack here or Catterall shows us that he should be the winner of the first fight if he beat Taylor this time in a clear fashion.

This is what makes this fight interesting one former champion who will try to prove that he still has it and one guy who many think was robbed of becoming a champion.

It's just unfortunate for Caterrall that in their rematch Taylor is not the champion anymore, but if he can beat Taylor then he could become an immediate challenger for Teofimo Lopez.

Both fighters are desperate for a win and I don't think they will want to leave in the scorecard but if ever it goes the distance the judges better make the right decision, they cannot afford another controversial decision between these two fighters.

On their press conference Jack is standing on his prediction that he will knock out Taylor in round 7 this is big words indeed so let's see.

The pressure is more on Josh Taylor though, this is a must win fight for him if he wanted to stay relevant as there are some boxing fans who says that he is no longer in his prime. So this is a big litmus test for him. For Jack Catterall, not much of a pressure but he needs to show us something that he really beat Josh in the first fight. And I have seen them need to be separated again, not sure what fight both of this boxers are watching. But the security was very quick to have them separated as they can throw a punch and going to be crazy.

So let's see if Jack can prove that he can really knock out Josh Taylor. He is now the favorite so he should live with that.

I haven't pull the trigger yet in this fight, to be honest, but most likely I will make the decision later.

[coin-investor]

Wow just watched the weigh-in live stream Caterrall was getting cheered while Taylor was booed by the audience

Here is the result of the weigh in 139.8 for Caterrall and 139.6 for Taylor so we have a match this Sunday, on the face off Josh looks aggressive but there is minimal talk between the two they said the same thing all talks are over and they will go to work come fight night.

I have a hard time figuring it out but even though Taylor's performance last two fights was not that good I'll still go for Josh I still believe that Taylor can resurrect his career, but I have no problem with Catterall winning I just want to see a good fight, which I'm sure both fighters will give for their fans.

Josh Taylor Vs Jack Catterall 2 & Undercard Weigh In

[stadus]

Wow just watched the weigh-in live stream Caterrall was getting cheered while Taylor was booed by the audience

Here is the result of the weigh in 139.8 for Caterrall and 139.6 for Taylor so we have a match this Sunday, on the face off Josh looks aggressive but there is minimal talk between the two they said the same thing all talks are over and they will go to work come fight night.

I have a hard time figuring it out but even though Taylor's performance last two fights was not that good I'll still go for Josh I still believe that Taylor can resurrect his career, but I have no problem with Catterall winning I just want to see a good fight, which I'm sure both fighters will give for their fans.

Josh Taylor Vs Jack Catterall 2 & Undercard Weigh In

Thanks for the update, this will be this Sunday in my timezone, and I'm with you with your bet on Taylor as I find the odds attractive with 1.70. He is a slight favorite, and I'm hoping he'll be in the winning path again. On their first meeting, Josh won via split decision, so he knew how to beat Catterall, and since he is coming from a loss, I bet he's training so hard to be able to come back, so I like his chances here.

[robelneo]

Wow just watched the weigh-in live stream Caterrall was getting cheered while Taylor was booed by the audience

Here is the result of the weigh in 139.8 for Caterrall and 139.6 for Taylor so we have a match this Sunday, on the face off Josh looks aggressive but there is minimal talk between the two they said the same thing all talks are over and they will go to work come fight night.

I have a hard time figuring it out but even though Taylor's performance last two fights was not that good I'll still go for Josh I still believe that Taylor can resurrect his career, but I have no problem with Catterall winning I just want to see a good fight, which I'm sure both fighters will give for their fans.

Josh Taylor Vs Jack Catterall 2 & Undercard Weigh In

Thanks for the update, this will be this Sunday in my timezone, and I'm with you with your bet on Taylor as I find the odds attractive with 1.70. He is a slight favorite, and I'm hoping he'll be in the winning path again. On their first meeting, Josh won via split decision, so he knew how to beat Catterall, and since he is coming from a loss, I bet he's training so hard to be able to come back, so I like his chances here.

This is not a title fight but it has the elements to become a very interesting fight because of what was supposed to be a wrong decision by the judges, Catterral has axed to grind because he should be the one wearing all the titles after the first fight and now that the rematch is happening there is no title on the line.

It was kind of frustrating for Catterall so between the two Catterall has all the reasons to make it personal so I believe with this motivation he can beat Taylor, I was rooting then for Taylor but after the face-off something made me believe that this is going to be Catterall fight.

[Yaunfitda]

Wow just watched the weigh-in live stream Caterrall was getting cheered while Taylor was booed by the audience

Here is the result of the weigh in 139.8 for Caterrall and 139.6 for Taylor so we have a match this Sunday, on the face off Josh looks aggressive but there is minimal talk between the two they said the same thing all talks are over and they will go to work come fight night.

I have a hard time figuring it out but even though Taylor's performance last two fights was not that good I'll still go for Josh I still believe that Taylor can resurrect his career, but I have no problem with Catterall winning I just want to see a good fight, which I'm sure both fighters will give for their fans.

Josh Taylor Vs Jack Catterall 2 & Undercard Weigh In

Thanks for the update, this will be this Sunday in my timezone, and I'm with you with your bet on Taylor as I find the odds attractive with 1.70. He is a slight favorite, and I'm hoping he'll be in the winning path again. On their first meeting, Josh won via split decision, so he knew how to beat Catterall, and since he is coming from a loss, I bet he's training so hard to be able to come back, so I like his chances here.

This is not a title fight but it has the elements to become a very interesting fight because of what was supposed to be a wrong decision by the judges, Catterral has axed to grind because he should be the one wearing all the titles after the first fight and now that the rematch is happening there is no title on the line.

It was kind of frustrating for Catterall so between the two Catterall has all the reasons to make it personal so I believe with this motivation he can beat Taylor, I was rooting then for Taylor but after the face-off something made me believe that this is going to be Catterall fight.

Yes, and if you look at the odds, it's Catterall that is the favorite now. And so there are reasons why boxing bettors now are putting their line on Josh Taylor. Maybe they really think that Taylor is past his prime or he really did lost the first fight. And we will understand the frustration of Catterall as there's no belt on the line anymore as in the first fight that he supposedly won, and if I'm not mistaken, there is the IBF belt. So very intense fight when two boxer really hate each other.

[Jating]

And it was great fight indeed, but at the end of it all, it was Jack Catterall who come in top, with a score of 117-111, 2x and 116-113. Although the score card looks ridiculous, as it seems 9-3 for Catterall, but I guess the correct winner is announced.

Jack dominated the fight from the first round and Josh hasn't anything to offer in this fight. It's just so sorry for Jack that there are no more belts in the line, and if he was given the nod in the first fight, he could be the undisputed champion.

For Josh Taylor, as a boxing fans, I think it's time for him to retire.

[coin-investor]

And it was great fight indeed, but at the end of it all, it was Jack Catterall who come in top, with a score of 117-111, 2x and 116-113. Although the score card looks ridiculous, as it seems 9-3 for Catterall, but I guess the correct winner is announced.

Jack dominated the fight from the first round and Josh hasn't anything to offer in this fight. It's just so sorry for Jack that there are no more belts in the line, and if he was given the nod in the first fight, he could be the undisputed champion.

For Josh Taylor, as a boxing fans, I think it's time for him to retire.

The fight takes off where they left but this time Catterall is the more prepared between the two after reading the scorecard I was surprised by a very wide margin I agree that Catterall takes the win but 117- 111 is just too wide for a gap for a very close fight and with this lost Josh Taylor can think of retirement or maybe take a rest he is still young at 33 years old.

He managed to get the weight but the aggressiveness was not there anymore he can move up to the next weight but the competition in the higher division is tough and I don't think he can manage to shine in another weight division which is the Welterweight division but on his interview, he wants to a have a third one well a third one is good but Catterall already calculated Taylor and I believe Catterall will still beat him.

[Baofeng]

And it was great fight indeed, but at the end of it all, it was Jack Catterall who come in top, with a score of 117-111, 2x and 116-113. Although the score card looks ridiculous, as it seems 9-3 for Catterall, but I guess the correct winner is announced.

Jack dominated the fight from the first round and Josh hasn't anything to offer in this fight. It's just so sorry for Jack that there are no more belts in the line, and if he was given the nod in the first fight, he could be the undisputed champion.

For Josh Taylor, as a boxing fans, I think it's time for him to retire.

The fight takes off where they left but this time Catterall is the more prepared between the two after reading the scorecard I was surprised by a very wide margin I agree that Catterall takes the win but 117- 111 is just too wide for a gap for a very close fight and with this lost Josh Taylor can think of retirement or maybe take a rest he is still young at 33 years old.

He managed to get the weight but the aggressiveness was not there anymore he can move up to the next weight but the competition in the higher division is tough and I don't think he can manage to shine in another weight division which is the Welterweight division but on his interview, he wants to a have a third one well a third one is good but Catterall already calculated Taylor and I believe Catterall will still beat him.

He is requesting a 3rd and final fight between them, and yeah this could be the last one for Josh Taylor here. The score could be closer though, it seems like 2 judges had like like 9 rounds for Catterall. And I do agree, 147 lbs is pretty much stack up and I doubt that Taylor can go there and be a champion just like what he did at 140 lbs.

Maybe he could have hang up his gloves, but then again, a trilogy and he can still make a lot of money.

On the other hand, did you hear the rant of Bob Arum in the post fight interview? He said that he will not bring any American fighter in Britain? and he really looks disgusted and he thinks that Taylor won the fight.

[Kemarit]

Wow just watched the weigh-in live stream Caterrall was getting cheered while Taylor was booed by the audience

Crowd is pro Catterall and I don't know why the hatred on Josh Taylor is. Maybe the fight is held or near Jack's hometown though and so there are a lot of his fans watching this weigh-in and the fight itself.

After what has been said, Catterall already won in this rematch by a huge margin as per judges scorecard. Yes, it was a exciting as any fight will be as they are domestic rivals. And with the 140 lbs pretty much a great division with Teo Lopez, Matias, Pitbull Cruz, Garcia and Haney, it will be interesting to see how Catterall will fare against this American boxers.

[FinneysTrueVision]

He is requesting a 3rd and final fight between them, and yeah this could be the last one for Josh Taylor here. The score could be closer though, it seems like 2 judges had like like 9 rounds for Catterall. And I do agree, 147 lbs is pretty much stack up and I doubt that Taylor can go there and be a champion just like what he did at 140 lbs.

Maybe he could have hang up his gloves, but then again, a trilogy and he can still make a lot of money.

On the other hand, did you hear the rant of Bob Arum in the post fight interview? He said that he will not bring any American fighter in Britain? and he really looks disgusted and he thinks that Taylor won the fight.

If Taylor couldn’t win convincingly after two fights, a third fight seems unnecessary. After becoming undisputed champin, Taylor has struggled in this weight class and it is about time for him to move up. Crawford and Spence are no longer at welterweight, and outside of Ennis, all the other belt holders are very beatable. I still think he would struggle because he is in decline but it would still be worth testing the waters to see if he still has something left. He already lost the 0 on his record and his titles, there is nothing left to lose.

Catterall has some limitations and isn’t quite on the same level as the champions. He does have momentum and has called out Teofimo. There is also Subriel Matias and Haney that are with Matchroom. Whoever he ends up facing, he will put up a good fight.

[coin-investor]

On the other hand, did you hear the rant of Bob Arum in the post fight interview? He said that he will not bring any American fighter in Britain? and he really looks disgusted and he thinks that Taylor won the fight.

With British judges as the judge, he should not, I agree on this part but not on the part that he thinks that Taylor wins the match, no way he won that fight but it should not be with that wide margin, I did not score the fight but based on what I see Catterall won it by a slim margin.

After what has been said, Catterall already won in this rematch by a huge margin as per judges scorecard. Yes, it was a exciting as any fight will be as they are domestic rivals. And with the 140 lbs pretty much a great division with Teo Lopez, Matias, Pitbull Cruz, Garcia and Haney, it will be interesting to see how Catterall will fare against this American boxers.

I don't think he can, the skill level and the power are not enough to pair Catterall with Lopez, Pitbull Cruz or even Matias but he has a good chance against Haney although he is not that quick to counter Haney's quickness, he deserves to have a crack on the title as he has beaten the former undisputed champion convincingly, I'm sure Hearns will work on that but hopefully not in the British soil.

[Slow death]

the fight ended with Catterall's victory, which in my opinion, although I didn't watch the fight live, I think that Catterall was a fair winner, during the fight he did better than his opponent Josh Taylor, and with that Catterall managed to get the revenge he wanted, so I hope there isn't a third round to have a tiebreaker, because in recent times this thing of a fighter winning a fight and then having another revenge fight seems to have become normal , that's why I won't be surprised if in the future there is a third fight if the fighters draw in two fights

"I felt that feeling last time," Chorley’s Jack Catterall said after his much-hyped rematch with Josh Taylor in Leeds on Saturday went the distance.

source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/articles/c4nn9ep3vz7o

after Taylor's victory in Glasgow, a victory that caused controversy, this fight was a good opportunity for Taylor to win and manage to put a good image of himself in the first fight, a victory yesterday could make them see that he is superior to Catterall , but unfortunately Taylor lost, there are people who say that Taylor's jabs are not as good as in the past, maybe that's true

Congratulations to Catterall, he won that fight

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Arum forces himself to go up like he just got out of the nursing home just to express his disgust with the scorecard.  He is 90+ and he still playing around big fights lol The old man just won't die like Don King. Taylor is past his prime he should accept that. He was once undisputed but it's now over.

Catterall won't feel like he needs to fight Taylor but they may still give Taylor another shot if Arum says so. But Catterall should be calling out Matias and not Teo.

[stadus]

Arum forces himself to go up like he just got out of the nursing home just to express his disgust with the scorecard.  He is 90+ and he still playing around big fights lol The old man just won't die like Don King. Taylor is past his prime he should accept that. He was once undisputed but it's now over.

Catterall won't feel like he needs to fight Taylor but they may still give Taylor another shot if Arum says so.

He is squeezing the last bit of popularity out of Taylor, but that was probably the last time since he lost by unanimous decision. I think we are all convinced that his career is over. With 2 straight losses that were not even close, I think Taylor should realize it's time to call it a career.

But Catterall should be calling out Matias and not Teo.

I think he wants more actual, Teo is known to be a cocky boxer and probably more popular than Matias, so he is just following where the money is.

[Baofeng]

Arum forces himself to go up like he just got out of the nursing home just to express his disgust with the scorecard.  He is 90+ and he still playing around big fights lol The old man just won't die like Don King. Taylor is past his prime he should accept that. He was once undisputed but it's now over.

Lol, but yeah, he is senile old man, but still though, he keeps himself active, but his tirade at the top of the boxing ring though. I disagree with him that his boy won the fight. It's clearly Jack Catterall the winner here, he is the better fighter that night so we should give all the credit to him. Perhaps he can't take it that he will be losing another of his good boxers because he losses this one that's why he won't off and calling the score absurd.

Catterall won't feel like he needs to fight Taylor but they may still give Taylor another shot if Arum says so. But Catterall should be calling out Matias and not Teo.

We really don't know if there will be a 3rd fight. And I do think that Taylor will not be the A-side anymore, as I believed that in the first 2 fight, Taylor is the one calling the shots. As for calling Teo, it make sense for him as Teo is the bigger name and obviously, he is the lineal champion so there's a lot of stakes, and most likely Bob might want that to happen to get his revenge here as Teo is under Top Rank.

With that, thanks to everyone who commented on this thread, I'm going to lock it for good.