Standing Strong Against Unjust Attacks: A Call for Community Support

[blackjack.fun]

Hello BitcoinTalk Community,

I am Admin Eva, representing the Blackjack.fun project and our dedicated team. Unfortunately, our community has been targeted by an individual named JackpotRacer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=524209), who is actively attempting to tarnish our reputation without any valid reason. JackpotRacer's actions seem to be a strategic attack, fueled by either a personal agenda, narcissistic behavior, or potential mental health issues. His relentless attacks extend not only within the BitcoinTalk forum but also outside of it, creating a false narrative and proposing a solution that amounts to nothing short of blackmail. The harassment campaign began in November, primarily focused on coercing us into creating blackjack tournaments for him. We want to bring this to the community's attention, as we believe in transparency and the support of our fellow forum members.

JackpotRacer has weaponized a scam accusations thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474047.0) to further his agenda, misleading others to achieve his goal. Notably, our decision to trigger a KYC on his account has triggered his attempts to portray himself as a victim, though we firmly believe we are within our rights to take such actions.

In light of these challenges, we've temporarily stepped back from the Bitcointalk forum to address the situation. Once this matter is resolved, we plan to return with a significant signature campaign, open an ANN thread, and continue our engagement with the community.

We are reaching out to seek advice and support from our valued community members. How can we effectively counter such ill-intentioned attacks and safeguard our reputation? Any insights, suggestions, or shared experiences would be immensely appreciated.

Thank you for your attention and support.

Best regards,
Admin Eva

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[Helena Yu]

I didn't follow the case, but when I check the accusations and feedback on your account, you don't have to create a clarification because the community know who's the real victim.

But, good to see you're planning to return the advertisement in this forum, the future participants need to thank JackpotRacer.

[Wiwo]

In light of these challenges, we've temporarily stepped back from the Bitcointalk forum to address the situation. Once this matter is resolved, we plan to return with a significant signature campaign, open an ANN thread, and continue our engagement with the community.

If you ask me I will say,  there is no need to step back from your activities here in the forum,  and if I don't remember I think I still recall how active blackjack fun was in taking bitcointalk members' feedback and suggestion by implementing them in the early days of your presence here in the forum,  so inline with that,  I suggest that you keep up with your activities and also try as much as possible to be active in responding to issues as promptly as you can.

Instead of going off totally which will affect your already-gained popularity here in the forum

We are reaching out to seek advice and support from our valued community members. How can we effectively counter such ill-intentioned attacks and safeguard our reputation? Any insights, suggestions, or shared experiences would be immensely appreciated.

Thank you for your attention and support.

Best regards,
Admin Eva

Make everything open and clear so the community members can see and judge from the available evidence from both parties involved in this case.

Going off the forum will further speak negatively and less your visibility,  if you want to deal with it and gain your reputation then deal with it,  I believe the member involved will respond to this thread soon and let us see from the other side of the story,  for those of us who have not been following up with the case but have noticed blackjack fewer activities here for a while now.

[TheUltraElite]

I suggested to the OP to create such a thread, of course this should be enough to guide a path in case the accused somehow "manages" to creep into the DT network - literally no chance but just for caution.

It is fairly clear here as the account making the threats has got no substantial credibility to their accusations and blackjack.fun should now begin to "Ignore" this person and move on with the development of their own casino.

OP should be clear as to how this happened and why they are a fair casino. Take help of a translator in case the first language is not English. Even then Ignoring the troll is the best thing to do here. Going away from this forum allows the troll to think that they won and it feeds their mental illness. So let them live in the shadows and pass comments while you promote your casino.

[holydarkness]

Hello BitcoinTalk Community,

I am Admin Eva, representing the Blackjack.fun project and our dedicated team. Unfortunately, our community has been targeted by an individual named JackpotRacer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=524209), who is actively attempting to tarnish our reputation without any valid reason. JackpotRacer's actions seem to be a strategic attack, fueled by either a personal agenda, narcissistic behavior, or potential mental health issues. His relentless attacks extend not only within the BitcoinTalk forum but also outside of it, creating a false narrative and proposing a solution that amounts to nothing short of blackmail. The harassment campaign began in November, primarily focused on coercing us into creating blackjack tournaments for him. We want to bring this to the community's attention, as we believe in transparency and the support of our fellow forum members.

JackpotRacer has weaponized a scam accusations thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474047.0) to further his agenda, misleading others to achieve his goal. Notably, our decision to trigger a KYC on his account has triggered his attempts to portray himself as a victim, though we firmly believe we are within our rights to take such actions.

I was one of the user who oversee that thread, alongside with several other prominent members, I don't think you should worry much about that thread, anyone who gave that thread a read can see how baseless the accusation is... well, JackpotRacer can't even spell out what's the scam about.

Nonetheless, several good points that's being brought to that thread and you happen to mention here should be addressed, as follow:

In light of these challenges, we've temporarily stepped back from the Bitcointalk forum to address the situation. Once this matter is resolved, we plan to return with a significant signature campaign, open an ANN thread, and continue our engagement with the community.

First is this one, this is a very poor problem solving strategy. By locking your ANN, you just cast an impression that you're evasive and has something to hide. Soonest you open them for public and re-engage to the community will be better.

We are reaching out to seek advice and support from our valued community members. How can we effectively counter such ill-intentioned attacks and safeguard our reputation? Any insights, suggestions, or shared experiences would be immensely appreciated.

Second, as you asked for advice for your reputation, as well as to clarify what really happens, there are two things that need your response and explanation, that is the Curacao license and the Provably Fair method. I can see that you've replace the license with... Anjuan Gaming... of Africa [this is the first time I am stumbled upon them], but it's probably better to give an explanation why for quite some time you have an invalid license in your page. I believe you're very close to get a tag or two for those matters.

I'll bring these issue of license and PF to Pmalek's and JollyGood's attention by mentioning them here as well as writing on JackpotRacer's thread, redirecting them here.

[SamReomo]

I have personally worked on a task of Blackjack.fun and I can surely say that they paid me for my work. That's enough for me to believe that Blackjack.fun is a reliable platform and they value their players and all those members who do some task for them. In fact I wasn't directly working with Blackjack.fun for the project, it was mediated by a third person, but when I contacted them, and when they verified that I have done the work, they paid me for that work. It's a proof that they value all those people who somehow work for them or who use their casino.

I also noticed that the original announcement thread of Blackjack.fun was locked and that's the reason some people bashed them. But, now they came with this thread to clarify that they will comeback to this forum and even start a signature campaign once again which's a pure sign of generosity. I believe they value feedback of Bitcointalk members and they want to have presence on this forum. I'm very sure that they'll get good feedback from the members of this forum because they haven't done anything wrong with anyone and they should not be treated as such.

As a Hero member of this community I think I somehow support them because they paid me for the task and which's enough for me to understand that they aren't unjust people and they really value good work. If they can support those who completes a task for them then I believe they also support their players. I hope they will get good response from other members of the forum as well and that might help them get motivated and return to this forum once again.

[Pmalek]

You haven't scammed JackpotRacer regardless of how many times he says it. He first needs to figure out what he wants and that's not happening. It seems that he wants to be back testing/playing blackjack on Blackjack.Fun and I don't think that's going to happen either. Perhaps it will after he conducts KYC, which he doesn't want to do.

In light of these challenges, we've temporarily stepped back from the Bitcointalk forum to address the situation. Once this matter is resolved, we plan to return with a significant signature campaign, open an ANN thread, and continue our engagement with the community.

No need to create a new ANN thread. You already have one. Reopen it and continue with your work. Other players might have valid questions or posts that they want to write there, but now they can't. Negative comments are unfortunately part of the game.

holydarkness has covered most of the questions I wanted to ask and that I asked in the scam accusation thread that JackpotRacer opened.
The issue with the wrong license has been solved, but do you want to comment on why the wrong one was there for so long?
The second issue is the Provably Fair logo. Are your games provably fair and can you prove it?

A few questions and comments on the bugs that JackpotRacer found.
What can you tell us about the timer reset bug? Are you working on it, has it been fixed, do you not want to fix it?
JackpotRacer does not have a case, but he did find several bugs. You fixed some, but the timer reset seems to be a major one that directly influences the outcome of a round. If that is true, you shouldn't be hosting real-money games until that is fixed.

[KingsDen]

I suggested to the OP to create such a thread, of course this should be enough to guide a path in case the accused somehow "manages" to creep into the DT network - literally no chance but just for caution.

It is fairly clear here as the account making the threats has got no substantial credibility to their accusations and blackjack.fun should now begin to "Ignore" this person and move on with the development of their own casino.

Good that OP made the thread. It thought you would have said the user called out by blackjack be ignored since they are not on DT and does not have the possibility of getting in any moment. Nice you didn't toe this path. That is how many people ignore users that left them negative tag because they do not possess DT power. Who knows how the coming years will be and they would my crook or whatever means gets into the DT and it will then be difficult to prove facts. Nice the thread is created since Blackjack has the vision of restarting promotion here.

About Op, I don't know him much. But the neutral tag left by nutildah could define something. But I am yet to understand how someone allows himself to be scammed frequently  

While I do not trust users who allow themselves to be "scammed" so frequently, that in itself is not worthy of a negative trust. I do recommend avoiding engaging in any business with this user as they have an extremely poor attitude and tend to complain (a lot) if things don't go exactly as they hoped. Check previous feedback both given and received for examples.

[JollyGood]

I am glad a blackjack.fun representative has posted but I think you should have engaged with the community earlier with regards to recent events. Nevertheless, thank you for the post.

I will not comment on what the OP of that thread alleged but there are important questions to ask. As you can see, Pmalek and holydarkness have asked some questions and I will take the opportunity to post mine unedited even though they overlap those already asked because I had them in mind before coming to this thread. I hope you will reply as it will provide some clarity:

- Did blackjack.fun have a valid Curacao licence during all the period the logo was visible on the website?
- When was the Anjouan licence issued?
- Was there an interim period when the website was operating without a licence namely before the Anjouan licence was issued (and if so, how long was the website working without a valid licence and why?)

In light of these challenges, we've temporarily stepped back from the Bitcointalk forum to address the situation. Once this matter is resolved, we plan to return with a significant signature campaign, open an ANN thread, and continue our engagement with the community.

We are reaching out to seek advice and support from our valued community members. How can we effectively counter such ill-intentioned attacks and safeguard our reputation? Any insights, suggestions, or shared experiences would be immensely appreciated.

Thank you for your attention and support.

Best regards,
Admin Eva

[yahoo62278]

I gave my opinion of the whole situation in the scam accusations thread. I do not feel like you will ever get a fair shake when dealing with JPR.

I think you're a little premature with your accusation. As usual you're an asshole and very aggressive with the site.

Here's what I see.

1. you tried to help by reporting some stuff in their thread. Good action by you.

2. They didn't take into account all your suggestions.

3. You exploited the bug yourself, self admittedly.  Whether or not it was trying to reproduce or exploit it still happened.

4. You were asked for kyc after this action and unable to participate. At this point you become aggressive towards the site and decide to be an ass and open a scam accusation.

Sound about right?

From my experience with Blackjack.fun I do not think English is their 1st language. It may not be yours either but I understand you pretty good. Instead of opening an accusation because you were asked for kyc, you should have maybe tried to pm and communicate further without acting out. Maybe get them to understand what and why things happened. If that didn't work, pm their campaign manager and see of he can get the owner to understand.

It's only a scam if they don't allow you to wd. If you ask to wd and pass kyc and they don't send your funds, then it's a scam dude.

This sound about right? Then when he didn't get his way he just kept on pushing and pushing and pushing hoping you will give in and submit to him. He tried reporting me to the company hiring me to wear their advertisement too. He didn't get his way with me either, I just decided he is not worth my time which is what you should do as well.

If he did report legitimate bugs, look into them and fix them if they are serious. If you owe him money offer to send it to him via whatever wallet he wants to use. I think it's 10-30 dollars so nothing big, then click the ignore button and move on.

As a business, it's in your best interest to try and listen to any and all accusations within reason. If there is no scam, explain your case and go on about your day. No need to argue back and forth or submit to any sort of blackmail. As long as you didn't scam, you have no worries. If you offered to pay him whatever money he has coming and deny him the privelege of playing on your platform, then it's on him for not taking payment.

I see others asking licensing issues. Please take the time to address those questions and put this matter to rest.

[RRZpU]

That's what I've been saying since my first post.

Just sue him and make him pay for his sick behaviour.

[holydarkness]

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If he did report legitimate bugs, look into them and fix them if they are serious. If you owe him money offer to send it to him via whatever wallet he wants to use. I think it's 10-30 dollars so nothing big, then click the ignore button and move on.

As a business, it's in your best interest to try and listen to any and all accusations within reason. If there is no scam, explain your case and go on about your day. No need to argue back and forth or submit to any sort of blackmail. As long as you didn't scam, you have no worries. If you offered to pay him whatever money he has coming and deny him the privelege of playing on your platform, then it's on him for not taking payment.

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That's the "issue" here, they can't send the fund because he refused to give a return address. They initially asked for KYC, but after JPR refuses, they waived the KYC requirement and asked him for an address to return his fund. He refused to provide it; because after his fund returned, he's very likely won't be able to play on the platform anymore.

[JollyGood]

You summed it up perfectly, in this instance nobody is giving the OP of that thread any support because he has refused to accept a payment which was offered. The whole premise for his thread against blackjack.fun was based on a dispute over $30 which he refused to accept when he was offered it.

As for the questions regarding either their licence or provably fair claim, they came up because there was a discussion in that thread and those picked up after looking at their website. I hope they clarify the situation and do not take an extended leave from the forum.

I gave my opinion of the whole situation in the scam accusations thread. I do not feel like you will ever get a fair shake when dealing with JPR.

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I see others asking licensing issues. Please take the time to address those questions and put this matter to rest.

[examplens]

We are reaching out to seek advice and support from our valued community members. How can we effectively counter such ill-intentioned attacks and safeguard our reputation? Any insights, suggestions, or shared experiences would be immensely appreciated.

I went through this scam accusation, and I don't see that you did anything wrong. At least not for what you are accused of. Well, if I were you, I wouldn't worry too much about it. I suggest that you open a new ANN thread, but this one out self-moderated to avoid its unnecessary trolling and derailing the thread.

Also from that discussion, it is obvious, fix that bug or turn off the games that are subject to it. That can't happen. Do not present licenses to the site or any information that is not correct. Situations can always happen where you will be shown as someone who is misleading users.

This sound about right? Then when he didn't get his way he just kept on pushing and pushing and pushing hoping you will give in and submit to him. He tried reporting me to the company hiring me to wear their advertisement too. He didn't get his way with me either, I just decided he is not worth my time which is what you should do as well.

His way of communicating and aggressiveness reminds me a lot of some users who were active here on the forum and quite active in accusing the casinos.

[robelneo]

Saw the thread in the scam section and he's not serious about getting his issue resolved he just wants to ruin Blackjack and insult members who contradict him, Pmalek is right in saying this guy has a mental issue, Blackjackfun used to have a long campaign here until they experimented on affiliate based signature campaign although it did not work they can still relaunched their campaign, there are a lot of poker players here and when it comes to poker, the community always have Blackjack.fun in their mind.

[Mahdirakib]

Finally you have broken your silence! You should have done it earlier. The user JackpotRacer complaint was completely pointless as he thinks everything in a different way. I was also observing the accusation, and I had stopped posting in his thread when I realized it was worthless to convince him. Because he doesn't think everything normally. I can see that you have unlocked Blackjack.fun main ANN thread. In my opinion, the best thing would be to create a self-moderated thread to deal with his poor mentality.

[Shishir99]

As you can see, the community already support you and they do not rely on what Jackpot racer posted. The only thing he could do was spread lies everywhere. No matter what he writes, just ignore him and go on. Do not take him seriously. Some of the forum members already responded to him. You should start doing the campaigns and other promotions that you were planning to do. There were always some trolls and some people who always wanted to take unfair benefits from casinos by blackmailing them. If you respond to them and keep talking about them, they will think that you are paying attention to him and he will force you to pay him. Just ignore and go on. Good luck!

[NotATether]

That's what I've been saying since my first post.

Just sue him and make him pay for his sick behaviour.

That is going to be very difficult if they haven't already identified the identity of JackpotRacer with whoever the user is on their platform. Because you can't just walk to the forum administration and ask for IP addresses, and even if you somehow had them, that's not enough information to identify the user's name, address, etc. to say nothing about how are you going to sue someone in a jurisdiction you are very far away from.

[JollyGood]

It does seem that way. He was after all offered the $30 (yes all this about $30 as an excuse to attack blackjack.fun) and that happened after he exploited a bug in their system. He wanted that money donated here and there but refused to accept it himself. That incident should be kept separated from the questions some members have asked blackjack.fun about their operation and they have not replied yet.

Saw the thread in the scam section and he's not serious about getting his issue resolved he just wants to ruin Blackjack and insult members who contradict him, Pmalek is right in saying this guy has a mental issue, Blackjackfun used to have a long campaign here until they experimented on affiliate based signature campaign although it did not work they can still relaunched their campaign, there are a lot of poker players here and when it comes to poker, the community always have Blackjack.fun in their mind.

[blackjack.fun]

It appears crucial to clarify matters concerning our license, although it is unrelated to the current situation. Nevertheless, I will address it.

Until the end of December 2023, we consistently held a Curacao License for many years. Starting from January 1, 2024, we have obtained an Anjouan license.

Various factors influence details concerning a validator link, including front-end development, response times from the license provider via emails, considerations related to the link, and renewal processes, among others. However, it's essential to emphasize that the documentation we possess holds the utmost importance; the validator link merely serves as an additional trust factor.

It's worth noting that JackpotRacer is diligently attempting to find any possible information to tarnish our reputation.

Eva