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March 11, 2024, 01:59:34 PM
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First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
No one cares about your education if you can't market yourself. I had a mate in university who had all the A+ grades but she still works at McDonalds because she wasn't from a rich family and was a shy girl.
On another hand, there are many people who have never studied at school and university but earn six figures. Khaby Lame is a good example, he never studied at University but used the right moment at the right time and is earning much more than people who work 12 hour shifts a week and do the hardest jobs.

No mate there are still a lot of people cares about your education since somehow there are people will look at this achievement  before they respect you. Also there's a lot of discrimination outside especially if you are not a college graduate. You can't get a high paying job and your position most likely hard to rise.  Maybe there are some undergraduate became so rich due to a lot of hustle they do in life. But people should remember that we have different faith and what became effective to other may not work to other people. That's why we or they need to graduate so they have a lot of choices in life.

literally yes, there's a lot of discrimination especially here in our country, no matter how rich you are, if you don't have a diploma to present to other people, they will still say something about you. sometimes even if you have finished your studies but you don't have a good job, they will still judge you. When it comes to the corporate world, you cannot justify your experiences and your knowledge because one of the main requirements they are looking for is a diploma.



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March 11, 2024, 02:57:00 PM
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literally yes, there's a lot of discrimination especially here in our country, no matter how rich you are, if you don't have a diploma to present to other people, they will still say something about you. sometimes even if you have finished your studies but you don't have a good job, they will still judge you. When it comes to the corporate world, you cannot justify your experiences and your knowledge because one of the main requirements they are looking for is a diploma.
these judgemental environment just emit negative energy to be honest, these people should be supportive if im being honest, its tough to live these days so much judgement if we don't achieve something meanwhile life is not all always about who's the best and what not.
discrimination in job though about these education requirement is real, sometime some people are judged not adequate if not having diploma or bachelor degree its really painful for those that literally have no money for education and finding a job just become more harder and harder with even tighter requirements.
fortunately though nowadays there are many online degree that we can get by paying nothing at all, therefore it really helps people that are in true need of education.

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March 12, 2024, 10:23:56 PM
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well, wealth is not based on graduation. In fact, many people are still poor or do not find work after they graduate. What makes people rich is the ability they have and the hard work they put in. No matter how good a person's abilities are, and even how good his graduation is, if he is lazy, he will experience setbacks.
After all, graduation is only the foundation for developing the skills we have, and it is proof that we may be experts in a field. However, what makes everything run smoothly is how capable you are and how hard you work to achieve your goals.
Agree. Graduation is a different matter, it indicates that he has studied. so that graduation can bring you closer to possible success. To be successful you have to go through college, this is also not certain. There are many paths to success, one of which is graduation. In a more global context, the meaning of success itself is too broad, it is not always money, a doctor who chooses to serve in a remote area, lives simply, can benefit other people with his knowledge, this could also be wealth for them in their life journey.

But on the other hand, I also really agree with art/design or programming jobs, because they learn without having formal education or having graduated but can still be self-taught. because currently there are lots of them scattered on YouTube, Udemy, Coursera, etc., especially in the digital era like now. But there are some jobs that I think require at least some appropriate formal education, especially in healthcare or engineering for safety reasons. However, of all things, the most basic thing to achieve success is hard work and not giving up easily.

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March 13, 2024, 03:18:05 PM
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No mate there are still a lot of people cares about your education since somehow there are people will look at this achievement  before they respect you. Also there's a lot of discrimination outside especially if you are not a college graduate. You can't get a high paying job and your position most likely hard to rise.  Maybe there are some undergraduate became so rich due to a lot of hustle they do in life. But people should remember that we have different faith and what became effective to other may not work to other people. That's why we or they need to graduate so they have a lot of choices in life.
I don't say that it's meaningless to get a high-quality education. Educated people are very necessary, they improve technology, they invent things and they make our life better. Everyone should definitely study well to become an engineer or doctor. In these fields their education matters very much because uneducated people can't build bridges and hospitals, in this niche it's inevitable to run a business successfully without qualified personnel.

When I say that being a graduate is not a key to being wealthy, I mean that education alone is not enough if you can't promote yourself. Your social skills decide your future too. Do you think HR always chooses the most educated guy when there is a vacancy? If there is a very educated and intellectual man in the room but can't promote himself and sits quietly in the corner, that guy is not going to get recruited. I have also seen many people who lack education but come from rich families or are very sociable and risk takers, which helped them to achieve financially more than what graduated people achieve.

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March 13, 2024, 04:41:10 PM
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Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
Having a graduate or higher education does not necessarily guarantee that someone will be richer,, because to achieve wealth nowadays you must have large capital and be supported by adequate skills. Education only provides a way for someone to seek knowledge but does not provide the same opportunity to gain wealth. Marketing management and skills in building relationships are quite important in developing a business because we have to find as many consumers as possible to buy the products we sell.

The long process of developing a business is not easy because people have to rise and fall to achieve success. If someone is inconsistent and not ready to take risks, it will be much more difficult to achieve success in the business world. That's why achieving wealth is not as easy as imagined because there are many processes that people have to go through and of course it is not easy to achieve it.

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March 13, 2024, 05:04:57 PM
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Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
Having a graduate or higher education does not necessarily guarantee that someone will be richer,, because to achieve wealth nowadays you must have large capital and be supported by adequate skills. Education only provides a way for someone to seek knowledge but does not provide the same opportunity to gain wealth. Marketing management and skills in building relationships are quite important in developing a business because we have to find as many consumers as possible to buy the products we sell.

The long process of developing a business is not easy because people have to rise and fall to achieve success. If someone is inconsistent and not ready to take risks, it will be much more difficult to achieve success in the business world. That's why achieving wealth is not as easy as imagined because there are many processes that people have to go through and of course it is not easy to achieve it.
First of all, it must be acknowledged that education is very important in life, with education it will make someone able to think more broadly and act well. The problem of rich and poor is a nature that occurs naturally. So how can someone be considered rich? I don't think an educated person will suffer a very bad fate, but at least he will be useful even if he only gets a relatively average job. So I don't agree if people compare something that is irrelevant and education has nothing to do with the fate of being rich or poor.

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March 13, 2024, 09:17:54 PM
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First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.

There are many ways to think about this, imagine being a tradesman for example - you can do many things with a hammer and a screwdriver, but to be truly successful you need the full load of kit which is specialized for every job. Just having a degree is not enough these days, as younger generations are often funneled through this treadmill to make universities richer but pick up less than useful skills. If thousands of people are learning how to be librarians or archaeologists every year, when there may only be less than a hundred jobs available in the field - it makes it hyper competitive to use that specific degree when you get out of university. Many will be resigned to pursuing something that may be less than their ideal job choice.

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     Education is important because, honestly, I have not seen anyone who has been successful in life who did not learn anything in school, even if we say that others drop out of school. Today, most of those who have graduated—actually,  not all of them—apply what they learned in school. That's why the rest of them, most of them, still remain poor.

Because there are others who have graduated that combine what they have learned with the strategy that they think of doing for the business that they want to get and do in reality.

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     Education is important because, honestly, I have not seen anyone who has been successful in life who did not learn anything in school, even if we say that others drop out of school. Today, most of those who have graduated—actually,  not all of them—apply what they learned in school. That's why the rest of them, most of them, still remain poor.

Because there are others who have graduated that combine what they have learned with the strategy that they think of doing for the business that they want to get and do in reality.
there are indeed things that you learn from school that does make positive changes towards the way you life so basically it helps you got at calculating finances so on. the problem with degrees only lies when you or we aren't graduting from STEM degree where it truly thrives after you've done with the university, it could opens up many opportunities for earning big chunk of salary.
the other degree though not so much, except very few of course, but overall many degrees aren't truly worth it to learn i presume since the knowledge can be learnt anywhere else and many time I think the curriculum is outdated so yes it doesn't necessarily guarantees wealth even there are still big chance that we might ended up at minimum wage at some point but at least we can apply for jobs.
maybe someday we might get the position that we wanted and deserve a good salary at some point.
my point here being that there's no wrong in getting that degree, you only lives once and I think thats enough reason I guess.

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March 13, 2024, 11:23:20 PM
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Anyone who thinks education is a major key to wealth is a lier, on a scale of 100 education is just 30 and in this 30, 20 is just your enlightenment on the field you aspire for while the 10 packages you to be more learned and think smartly than an illiterate.


Education is important and one needs it amongst other things to attain and keep wealth. On my scale of importance, I’ll give education an 80 out of 100. A quality education doesn’t just impact knowledge into you, it reshapes your behavior and could alter one’s way of thinking for the better only if that person is open to learning and ready to change.
But admittedly, completing your colleague education doesn’t necessarily get you wealthy. No sane person would think a college degree would, on its own generate wealth.
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First of all, it must be acknowledged that education is very important in life, with education it will make someone able to think more broadly and act well. The problem of rich and poor is a nature that occurs naturally. So how can someone be considered rich? I don't think an educated person will suffer a very bad fate, but at least he will be useful even if he only gets a relatively average job. So I don't agree if people compare something that is irrelevant and education has nothing to do with the fate of being rich or poor.
No one doubts that education is a source of knowledge that must be sought, but education does not guarantee that someone will become richer. Wealth is not obtained naturally because people have to prepare except when their parents inherit it. Education has nothing to do with wealth and poverty, but education is part of the way for someone to build relationships. With good relationships, it will be much easier for us to develop a business so that wealth will be closer to us.

Education is seen only as a step for someone to seek knowledge and education is a foundation for people to seek insight in a particular field. If the relationship between education can make someone richer then there are many people who are not educated who are also successful in becoming rich from the business activities and other things they undertake so this comparison is not relevant.

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First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
No one cares about your education if you can't market yourself. I had a mate in university who had all the A+ grades but she still works at McDonalds because she wasn't from a rich family and was a shy girl.
On another hand, there are many people who have never studied at school and university but earn six figures. Khaby Lame is a good example, he never studied at University but used the right moment at the right time and is earning much more than people who work 12 hour shifts a week and do the hardest jobs.

No mate there are still a lot of people cares about your education since somehow there are people will look at this achievement  before they respect you. Also there's a lot of discrimination outside especially if you are not a college graduate. You can't get a high paying job and your position most likely hard to rise.  Maybe there are some undergraduate became so rich due to a lot of hustle they do in life. But people should remember that we have different faith and what became effective to other may not work to other people. That's why we or they need to graduate so they have a lot of choices in life.

literally yes, there's a lot of discrimination especially here in our country, no matter how rich you are, if you don't have a diploma to present to other people, they will still say something about you. sometimes even if you have finished your studies but you don't have a good job, they will still judge you. When it comes to the corporate world, you cannot justify your experiences and your knowledge because one of the main requirements they are looking for is a diploma.
To me I see education as a birth right to every individual because it helps one to be well integrated in the society. education is not only the factor that guarantee wealth, it's just an added advantage to create wealth and succeed in life while wealth is directly proportion to the value you can offer to enhance efficient and smooth running of the society.
There are many factors that drive wealth such as education, character, information, energy to do, passion, perverance, endurance, patience, skills, opportunity and consistency in ideas that will bring positive impact and value to the society.
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I have seen many people who have completed their graduation who are currently unemployed. After completing graduation there are many people who do not find their suitable job which force them to remain unemployed. If we think that a person who graduated means he is rich then we are wrong because not all students who complete graduation can find proper job which makes them either unemployed or tutoring. A student who completes graduation does not choose tutoring as a career as a meritocracy but rather they choose this tutoring as their career under compulsion. Out of the number of students who complete their graduation every year, 20 to 30% students may get job opportunities and the remaining 70% students remain unemployed.

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I have seen many people who have completed their graduation who are currently unemployed. After completing graduation there are many people who do not find their suitable job which force them to remain unemployed. If we think that a person who graduated means he is rich then we are wrong because not all students who complete graduation can find proper job which makes them either unemployed or tutoring. A student who completes graduation does not choose tutoring as a career as a meritocracy but rather they choose this tutoring as their career under compulsion. Out of the number of students who complete their graduation every year, 20 to 30% students may get job opportunities and the remaining 70% students remain unemployed.
In a 1st class country it is possible for a degree to fetch one a good paying job that would be able to sustain his/her needs, but it's quite difficult for graduates that's are in an under developed country to secure good paying jobs that could earn them a living, I think that's why most of the graduates living in such societies are poor or could barely live the life deserving of their certificates.

 Now that's where handwork/skills come in, a graduate with a good skill would not relax when they're unemployed but would rather use the skills they've acquired to earn a living, it's good for post graduates that fall in such societies where there are little or no opportunities to secure a good paying job, to have a back up plan which is (Skill Acquisition) like I said earlier a graduate with a good skill won't sit back and settle for unemployment when they got something that could fetch them an income.

 Well I don't know if the numbers are right, but I bet the 30% who would be able to secure a good job are those who merit them by securing good grades or have good connections to secure a job, but that still doesn't mean the remaining 70% would sit back and settle for unemployment. Sometimes if opportunities doesn't come your way, you create one for yourself and how would they do that by acquiring good skills or learn a trade which in return could make them wealthy. And if they succeed there's a possibility they could end up being employers of other graduates.
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First of all, it must be acknowledged that education is very important in life, with education it will make someone able to think more broadly and act well. The problem of rich and poor is a nature that occurs naturally. So how can someone be considered rich? I don't think an educated person will suffer a very bad fate, but at least he will be useful even if he only gets a relatively average job. So I don't agree if people compare something that is irrelevant and education has nothing to do with the fate of being rich or poor.
Yes agree with you. Education is not important if the goal is only a diploma. However, education shapes a person's mindset through the knowledge gained and the environment. In essence, school may not be important, because we not only need concepts in learning something, but the application, including support. Because education can be found anywhere, including the environment that can shape a person's character and personality.

However, if we look at the progress of today's times and civilization, school has become a means and opportunity to find work. And most importantly, when studying lessons at school, we are the ones who play an important role in applying the knowledge we gain so that we can apply it in everyday life and get a job according to our abilities. If we fail, it means we can't accept lessons easily and don't want to work hard. Rich or poor depends on each of our intentions and hard work, and having an education will be much better.

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There are many factors that drive wealth such as education, character, information, energy to do, passion, perverance, endurance, patience, skills, opportunity and consistency in ideas that will bring positive impact and value to the society.
These things drive wealth? Or are you trying to say that these things are important to allow a person to make wealth?

Education will get your the degree but the skills are important, if the person is passionate about that they will excel in it with the proper education and the required skills. Having the above qualities will further allow them to run it for the long term and become successful their way of living.

Also the big names in tech and all maybe dropped education, but they are exceptions and thus should not be taken as the rule.

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Education is just you going to school and being trained in a field for you to become a expect in any area of interest
So any one who did not go to a formal school to be a educated and given a certificate of attendance but have educated him/ her self in a skill or productive venture and start making money
Infact in my opinion the person who has used four years in learning trade or skill is equal to the graduate who also used four years going to the University
Education is not the key to success because your not thought how to make money in school but your being thought theories that sometimes you may not even use after school
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There are many factors that drive wealth such as education, character, information, energy to do, passion, perverance, endurance, patience, skills, opportunity and consistency in ideas that will bring positive impact and value to the society.
These things drive wealth? Or are you trying to say that these things are important to allow a person to make wealth?

Education will get your the degree but the skills are important, if the person is passionate about that they will excel in it with the proper education and the required skills. Having the above qualities will further allow them to run it for the long term and become successful their way of living.

Also the big names in tech and all maybe dropped education, but they are exceptions and thus should not be taken as the rule.

You know. I have been following some left wing independent media outlets and they have lately talked about the myth of wealth creation of those who have managed to become rich in previous years and those who have managed to do it recently. It is true there have been some people who worked their hard way towards becoming successful company owners, completely from the ground up. But those left media outlets say most of the current billionaires and millionaires are done because of the inheritance they get from their parents, they did not actually have to work for what they have.

Education and discipline surely helps to live a life with dignity, but does not mean one is going to be a millionaire anytime soon.

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March 24, 2024, 03:10:38 PM
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Education is just you going to school and being trained in a field for you to become a expect in any area of interest
So any one who did not go to a formal school to be a educated and given a certificate of attendance but have educated him/ her self in a skill or productive venture and start making money
Infact in my opinion the person who has used four years in learning trade or skill is equal to the graduate who also used four years going to the University
Education is not the key to success because your not thought how to make money in school but your being thought theories that sometimes you may not even use after school
In essence, going to school or even college certainly does not guarantee that someone will become rich, but by being educated, someone is already good at reading, calculating and writing so that they are able to master the world in a fundamental way, after that, if someone goes to university then there character is formed and it makes us become a scientist thanks to the theory and practice provided by the lecturer. So it must be admitted that even though we have taken a higher level of education, we do not necessarily become rich, but the opportunity to achieve our dreams is also more open if we have studied.

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March 26, 2024, 02:56:19 PM
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Sure thing! I believe one of the most essential things to remember is that your degree does not determine who you are. While it may be a useful starting stone, it is not the only aspect that counts. Your talents, perspective, and will to continue learning and improving are all equally crucial. Even those with degrees and formal educations frequently need to learn new things during their careers. New technologies, shifting trends, and growing sectors all require lifelong learning to be relevant and competitive in today's society. In reality, specialists believe that the half-life of knowledge is decreasing, which means that the information we gain today may only be useful for a few years. This emphasizes the need of cultivating a curious and adaptable mentality.
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