Why People Have Different Perception Of Gambling Operators

[coin-investor]

I just noticed here in our city, that two brothers own different gambling platforms people have different impressions of each one of them, the first one owns a lottery outlet and he is getting respect from people from all walks of life, people look upon him as a giver of luck because many people hit consolations from his Lotto outlet

Photo from Phoenix Lotto FBpage

The other one is the owner of Cockpit Arena and many people despise him because many of their husbands and fathers lose a lot of money and go home empty-handed

I wonder why these two brothers receive different impressions when both are running a gambling platform, honestly, I prefer my friends and relatives to bet on the lotto but I advise them to be careful when playing in a cockpit, because in a cockpit arena, you can wipe out all your money and you end up empty-handed because the games are continuous you have no control and you are tempted to continue playing or lose everything whereas in Lotto you can allocate your bets.

Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?

[Wapfika]

I wonder why these two brothers receive different impressions when both are running a gambling platform, honestly, I prefer my friends and relatives to bet on the lotto but I advise them to be careful when playing in a cockpit, because in a cockpit arena, you can wipe out all your money and you end up empty-handed because the games are continuous you have no control and you are tempted to continue playing or lose everything whereas in Lotto you can allocate your bets.

Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?

It’s subjective on who’s the people you are talking that gives respect to the owner of the gambling business. I’m sure the owner of the cockpit arena received same respect to the owner of the lotto outlet if you will ask all the players on their business. You mention that the partner of the husband playing on cockpit is the only one complaining about their business.

I’m sure that the partner of the lotto players will give the same criticism to lotto owner because it’s the same gambling. The only difference and what probably intensifies the hate on cockpit owner is because this type of gambling requires a lot of money and time just to condition a cock to fight on arena in addition to the actual bet on game.

[Oshosondy]

Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?

No. People know how risky the gambling is.

People should know that as they are gambling, they can lose money as they are looking for money. It is also good to know that the gambling operator are most likely to win while the gamblers are losing. So why are people should despise what they already know the outcome. The higher the odd the harder to win are the games. So people that cannot risk their money should not gamble or they should gamble with the money they can afford to lose.

[freedomgo]

Most probably because gamblers can lose a lot of money going to a cockpit. I have a lot of friends who are into this kind of gambling, and most of them are losing money, but they enjoy it. Only those people who don't love the sport, if we consider this one, will hate the operators. But those who enjoy it despite losing money will be thankful that this kind of gambling has existed. In the Philippines, this gambling is more like a traditional gambling already, as it's been introduced centuries ago.

However, on the lottery, people aren't complaining, as bettors would not lose a lot of money. With less than $1, you can already buy a ticket and hope for a chance to win. But going to a cockpit, you need more than that, as there's an entrance fee, depending on the type of cockpit, usually ranging from $4 to $10. And that is just an entrance fee; you still need some bankroll to start betting while you are inside the arena.

[Churchillvv]

it's just a subject reasoning of some people that one is better than the other whereas they are same but in a different environment. judging from the look of things people could be very sentimental for some reason that the cockpit arena could be filled with lots of gangsters and all manner of crime scene but for the lotto environment you could see it a civil place where people would come and go peacefully in a subject sense but in reality the same people who go to the cockpit arena are still the people in the lottos.

One thing about the sentiment is it's very much biased factored around wife's/partners.

[Hispo]

That is quite interesting, actually, how two different kind of gambling can make people to have opposite emotional reactions to them. I have not been very often in cockfighitng pits, though I cannot use my own experience as comparison to what you just said to us.
In general people here appear to be indifferent enough to lottery operators, in general. They know that if the game is fair, there is no reason to despise or hold grudges against the lottery operators.

I have a uncle who is an avid breeder of roosters and he has gone to fighting pits to try to earn money out of it and even big prizes, like whole cows in meat. I have never heard him badmouthing the owner of the pit, but rather he has been more eager to insult his own roosters and the roosters of his opponents. I assume, it must be a cultural thing there in your country, because here there could be may differences between your culture and ours.

[angrybirdy]

I just noticed here in our city, that two brothers own different gambling platforms people have different impressions of each one of them, the first one owns a lottery outlet and he is getting respect from people from all walks of life, people look upon him as a giver of luck because many people hit consolations from his Lotto outlet

Photo from Phoenix Lotto FBpage

The other one is the owner of Cockpit Arena and many people despise him because many of their husbands and fathers lose a lot of money and go home empty-handed

I wonder why these two brothers receive different impressions when both are running a gambling platform, honestly, I prefer my friends and relatives to bet on the lotto but I advise them to be careful when playing in a cockpit, because in a cockpit arena, you can wipe out all your money and you end up empty-handed because the games are continuous you have no control and you are tempted to continue playing or lose everything whereas in Lotto you can allocate your bets.

Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?

Probably were on the same country and I noticed that too, that there's a different impression from other people based on the gambling activity that they play or operate but it's not all about the type of gambling itself, but because of the impact and outcome of that gambling to other people. Actually both lotto outlet and Cockpit fight is risky but in my opinion, Lotto has the tendency to give you an addiction because you will never notice that you will always buy lotto ticket, as in everyday and not complaining about the money you use for buying tickets.
The cockpit fighting just looks worse because a lot of money is needed to place a bet unlike the lottery where only a small amount is used to buy the ticket but if we count and total it, it seems like we lose more if we spend every day to buy tickets rather than placing a bet ocassionally in cock pit fight.

[dothebeats]

The first one is affiliated with the government. People will view anything as 'legal' or 'good' when it is approved and has come from the government directly. For the second one, cockfighting has a long history in the Philippine society. Cockfighting is already around, making people lose their money way even before PCSO was found. That deep seated hate towards cockfighting is, IMO, carried over from generation to generation. Both are making people lose their money, but the other one is deemed legal because it is managed by the government while the other is not. Kind of a primitive outlook but that's what normal people perceive it.

[electronicash]

husbands or fathers playing in the cockfighting arenas are wasting much time of the fathers that should have been spent on their families that's why the wives are complaining so much. i personally know some wives, who know their husbands will go home empty-handed again every Sunday because of gambling and then drink tanduay til midnight. it's the usual routine every Sunday for the rooster boys.

playing the lottery won't consume hours and hours of the husband so the wives won't mind him spending $0.20 for the ticket.

[swogerino]

I just noticed here in our city, that two brothers own different gambling platforms people have different impressions of each one of them, the first one owns a lottery outlet and he is getting respect from people from all walks of life, people look upon him as a giver of luck because many people hit consolations from his Lotto outlet

Photo from Phoenix Lotto FBpage

The other one is the owner of Cockpit Arena and many people despise him because many of their husbands and fathers lose a lot of money and go home empty-handed

I wonder why these two brothers receive different impressions when both are running a gambling platform, honestly, I prefer my friends and relatives to bet on the lotto but I advise them to be careful when playing in a cockpit, because in a cockpit arena, you can wipe out all your money and you end up empty-handed because the games are continuous you have no control and you are tempted to continue playing or lose everything whereas in Lotto you can allocate your bets.

Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?

In my country all gambling operators got banned and the only one allowed to operate was first a big casino Regency,then they opened up another huge casino called Grand and these two are the only operators,they get the same treatment and people have no different perception for them except all people think that they take people's money  .

Who got treated unfairly were all the small operators who got closed but which in my opinion were having a much better RTP compared to these two big guys which are having a really bad RTP in all their slot games and of course they are like some monopoly who do not adhere to competition rules.

[robelneo]

The cockpit fighting just looks worse because a lot of money is needed to place a bet unlike the lottery where only a small amount is used to buy the ticket but if we count and total it, it seems like we lose more if we spend every day to buy tickets rather than placing a bet ocassionally in cock pit fight.

That's correct I have a friend who lost $200 equivalent in local currency in two hours of betting on cockfighting and when he bet on lottery he could only spend $10 when I asked him why bet only $10 when you can bet $200 on cockfighting he just said it's hard to win in a lottery than in a cockfighting so its more on the chances of the gamblers to win in a gambling platform where he is putting a lot of money.

That's my observation people spend a lot in casinos but when it comes to the lottery they only spend a fraction and many of them believe that there are almost zero chances to win in a lottery in casinos, so they treat every gambling platform differently from one another  

[acroman08]

I wonder why these two brothers receive different impressions when both are running a gambling platform

it's pretty clear why it's happening, while they are both running a gambling platform, the type of gambling they are proving is different. the first one is a lottery booth which is legal, and the second is cockfighting which includes roosters dying and is often illegal, also from my experience cockpit arenas are full of loan sharks which are usually illegal too.

[Rufsilf]

Since billions of people participate in lottery betting, it is difficult for any one of us to win millions or thousands of money over the modest amount we wager. However, for me, it is harmless to bet on lotto outlets since as you stated that we can allocate our bets. But when it comes to cock fighting,
 I feel like it truly throws an unfavorable image on me since it involves animal abuse and cruelty, and I can't stand to see those creatures put their lives in danger for human entertainment.
However, it is possible that when we go for a drink or whatever, our buddies will have already eaten the chicken, so we might not come back with anything.

[cabron]

I wonder why these two brothers receive different impressions when both are running a gambling platform

it's pretty clear why it's happening, while they are both running a gambling platform, the type of gambling they are proving is different. the first one is a lottery booth which is legal, and the second is cockfighting which includes roosters dying and is often illegal, also from my experience cockpit arenas are full of loan sharks which are usually illegal too.

In Asian countries, it's mostly legal. They actually breed these gamefowls for fighting purposes. The issue is that people respect the lottery booth owner more than the fighting arena owner. The fighting Arena seems to be a happy place for gamblers but it's also where illegal activities are happening like selling drugs. It's like a good place to find illegal business partners while a lottery booth is just as simple as buying a lottery ticket and walking away for a partisan.

Why do lottery ticket booth owners get more respect I guess the owner appears more respectable while someone who owns a cage for fighting rooster pets is seen as criminal.  

[Findingnemo]

They have been receiving different opinions because both are different kind of gambling, the second brother probably making lot more money than the first one because whenever the players loss then it's win for the one who runs the place. I don't know exactly how cock fight betting happens but if it's PvP then house is just going to get commission for every bets so more the attention the business will increase so that profits and who really cares what others were thinking when you are keep generating revenue.

[Davidvictorson]

I wonder why these two brothers receive different impressions when both are running a gambling platform, honestly, I prefer my friends and relatives to bet on the lotto but I advise them to be careful when playing in a cockpit, because in a cockpit arena, you can wipe out all your money and you end up empty-handed because the games are continuous you have no control and you are tempted to continue playing or lose everything whereas in Lotto you can allocate your bets.

This second paragraph has the answer to your question. Simple put, one is seen as noble and the other is seen as ignoble. In lottery you place buy tickets hope that your number is called during the random draw but in cock fighting, there's blood, there's death, there's dirt and it never ends. One is regulated, the other is illegal. In my estimation, I would rather purchase a lottery ticket and go about my day than bet on a cock and watch then fight to death.

Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?

In my country there could be those who operate unregulated and illegal gambling rings but I don't know about them. We have more of sports bookies. If  unregulated and illegal gambling exists, the authorities will care less about them, we have very weak regulators that is why they thrive.

[Yatsan]

Maybe it is the difference with the amount we bet on lotteries than with other gambling activities which creates discrimination and intensity with impressions. There are also many cockfighting activities which are not registered which maakes it illegal, and could create a general point of view about it. Both are addictive to gamblers who bet that much. Also, you could lose more with gambling games that takes few minutes to get the result, which speaks for frequency of bets.  Impression in the first place is subjective, thus, it does not promote certainty; maybe to some there is a difference with the image, but there will be also people who would look at it with the same intensity.

I wonder why these two brothers receive different impressions when both are running a gambling platform

it's pretty clear why it's happening, while they are both running a gambling platform, the type of gambling they are proving is different. the first one is a lottery booth which is legal, and the second is cockfighting which includes roosters dying and is often illegal, also from my experience cockpit arenas are full of loan sharks which are usually illegal too.

Actually it is what I thought at first but I realized that not all cockfighting activities are illegal. There are tournaments which are registered. Proof? Food for those chickens are even having advertisements and are being promoted on nationwide television. There are also tournaments which are being aired on TV. There are just more instances wherein it is illegal and being pursuit by authorities.

[acroman08]

In Asian countries, it's mostly legal. They actually breed these gamefowls for fighting purposes.

I know that they breed them for fighting purposes but it doesn't really change the fact that they still die, as for cockfighting being legal in most Asian countries, in the Philippines you need a permit(which as far as I know, is hard to get) to be able to operate a cockfighting arena(that's why I said "is often illegal"), it is also the main reason why there is a lot of cockpit arena getting raided because of lack of permit to operate.

Actually it is what I thought at first but I realized that not all cockfighting activities are illegal. There are tournaments which are registered. Proof? Food for those chickens are even having advertisements and are being promoted on nationwide television. There are also tournaments which are being aired on TV. There are just more instances wherein it is illegal and being pursuit by authorities.

I know, that is why I said "is often illegal" because not all of them are illegal.

[danherbias07]

Well, the other one doesn't really own the lottery. He is just a manager of one outlet but the prizes still come from the PCSO. If something goes wrong he will not be the one to deal with but the owner of the lottery.

The other one though is entirely different. He owns the cockpit itself which means he will definitely take the blame. I also despised one cockpit here near our place because that's the first one built in a big area while the schools and groceries are still far from us. I mean, they could build something that can be used by the residents where their money will be spent for something necessary but it's a gambling place that was first erected.

But when I understood how much money it would make, I started to just be neutral about it. I learned how much money the city will make because of it and maybe that is why they built it first. The city does not have many establishments yet and there's not much profit coming in.
After a year of that cockpit running we now have lights in a long street and the city hall looks very good.
I guess it will depend on who we are asking the question. If they do understand the purpose of it, then I bet it will change their mind. Their husband's gambling problem is not the cockpit's owner's problem. We humans always have a choice to gamble or not.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

I think it's a normal thing based on human nature. People tend to earn more respect if they are able to convince others of their value. If the brother who owns a lotto shop has lots of customers who have actually had several wins on different occasions and those customers keep on testifying how good the casino operator is, they are indirectly going to lead more customers to him and make people like him, but if the other guy who owns a cricket arena has no good records of winners, he ends up being criticized by so many people.

In a real sense, gambling is what it is. There are some games that are usually very difficult compared to others, and it is not the fault of the cricket arena operator that gamblers are losing their money. The system has already been designed to work automatically. Only non-gamers who don't understand the system will wag their tongue unnecessarily.

Normal spouses are not happy when they see their husband going out to gamble and losing all the money that the man is supposed to put to good use. If the spouse happens to know the casino owner where the husband is always going to lose money, she will not feel happy with the casino operator without realizing that it's her husband she should face.