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February 25, 2024, 05:23:43 PM
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Both are more or less the same and it’s crazy that people would think less of one while thinking highly of the other as people lose and win money from both avenues.
Understandably, with the lotto, chances of spending more money is slim compared to when you’re engaged and active in the cockpits where the event is ongoing and fresh bets are being placed. But if one loses all the money in his possession from placing bets over and over, the fault lies solely with that individual.

No one forces anyone to place continuous bets in the cockpits. I can understand the enthusiasm as well as the excitement that engulfs the crowd could motivate one to bet more. And if you do bet more and lose more, you accept the outcome that your actions has led to. In this scenario, it’s more befitting to blame the player and not the game.
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February 25, 2024, 05:27:02 PM
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Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?
It is because of how these two gambling operators have packaged their businesses, that is why different people have had two different opinions on them despite the fact that they offer the same opportunity and also the same risk of loss.

The more locally set gambling operator will always attract gamblers who are not very financially buoyant, mostly gambling to win as they as gambling for fun, and may not have a budget as they are always trying their luck to see if they can win from gambling. Gamblers especially men who gamble in these locally set gambling places will be squandering money and putting their family under duress because of the inability to meet up with responsibilities.

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February 25, 2024, 06:40:31 PM
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This will depend more on the point of view of each person in society, and of course not everyone can really accept and like gambling because many who do not like gambling in any form will always be considered bad.
Lottery and cockfighting are both part of gambling and this is only based on the type of bet, moreover, these two types of bets have gamblers who like them and even really consider them to be the most fun bets.

If think that the lottery will be much better because it can provide profits then that is also not the right statement because in the lottery winning can be based on luck and if are not lucky then defeat will also occur.
When they lose, they go home empty-handed without having any winnings, the only difference is that in lottery betting you can use relatively small money, unlike cockfighting.
Maybe different points of view and sentiments really exist because of the amount of money that can be lost from each type of bet.

I myself tend to find it easier to fight cocks because the prediction for who the winner will be can be seen from who has the cock, if he is hobbyist who has lots of great cocks then he clearly has bigger chance of winning.

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February 25, 2024, 07:57:56 PM
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Cock fighting is maybe also seen as less ethical because animals are hurt or killed just for the fun of humans or their desire to quickly earn money while at lottery games no one is hurt except losers who have bet funds they couldn't afford to lose. In addition cock fighting is less mixed in terms of gender from what I saw while lottery is equally played by men and women, and is often associated with alcohol and tobacco consumption.

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February 25, 2024, 08:06:15 PM
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I just noticed here in our city, that two brothers own different gambling platforms people have different impressions of each one of them, the first one owns a lottery outlet and he is getting respect from people from all walks of life, people look upon him as a giver of luck because many people hit consolations from his Lotto outlet
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The other one is the owner of Cockpit Arena and many people despise him because many of their husbands and fathers lose a lot of money and go home empty-handed
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I wonder why these two brothers receive different impressions when both are running a gambling platform, honestly, I prefer my friends and relatives to bet on the lotto but I advise them to be careful when playing in a cockpit, because in a cockpit arena, you can wipe out all your money and you end up empty-handed because the games are continuous you have no control and you are tempted to continue playing or lose everything whereas in Lotto you can allocate your bets.

Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?
Actually this is something this is really just that something that will really be that just depending on the communities view and inputs and not something that a solid thing for us to tell that people do really think up this way.

Somehow it is really that true that cockfighting does really get involved that huge amount of money that you do need to gamble on which you arent that only putting up yourself with some bets
but also you are risking out the life of your own cock on which we know that these things doesnt come cheap when it comes on raising it up for long time.
But honestly i dont really see any issues on dealing with it as long you are just that spending on the amount on which you can only afford to lose.

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February 25, 2024, 08:19:07 PM
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Many reasons to tell about this topic. Many casinos have different reasons for operating their own casinos because some sees it as business that only entertain people for more fun.
Others only takes casinos as advantage over additional gamblers but that's not a good plans, that's not good because many casino terms can frustrate gamblers when they want to withdraw their winning from the casinos but when they want to lose their money to the casino there is no term behind that.
It's doesn't really matters about the casinos term of conditions but where the problems are is behind the additional gamblers.

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February 25, 2024, 08:26:38 PM
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Many reasons to tell about this topic. Many casinos have different reasons for operating their own casinos because some sees it as business that only entertain people for more fun.
Others only takes casinos as advantage over additional gamblers but that's not a good plans, that's not good because many casino terms can frustrate gamblers when they want to withdraw their winning from the casinos but when they want to lose their money to the casino there is no term behind that.
It's doesn't really matters about the casinos term of conditions but where the problems are is behind the additional gamblers.

I don't know if you really read the situation presented by the OP but your comment is way out of his query. The thing is, he's wondering why the perception of the public is different to two gambling operators (brothers) -  one who owns a lottery shop, the other one has the cockpit arena?

On this note, I think people have different approach to these 2 gambling areas because for one, lottery is under their government management, in which people see it as good, as this gambling game is also funding their charity activities. Whereas, most cockpit arenas are privately owned where the owners are just the only ones benefiting from it financially.

Though many lotto bettors are also losing because consider the number of winners per day as compared to bettors. But they see it as less evil because some portions are going to the people who badly need the money especially the poor ones. So they feel they are also helping their people and at the same time have the chance to possibly hit big.

Cock fighting is maybe also seen as less ethical because animals are hurt or killed just for the fun of humans or their desire to quickly earn money while at lottery games no one is hurt except losers who have bet funds they couldn't afford to lose. In addition cock fighting is less mixed in terms of gender from what I saw while lottery is equally played by men and women, and is often associated with alcohol and tobacco consumption.

That is another facet to look at here. And there are people or even groups (animal rights groups) who are against this kind of violence. Hence, you can say, placing a bet on lottery is more favourable to these people over going to the cockpit arena and see these roosters being killed in brutal way.

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February 25, 2024, 08:43:28 PM
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Cock fighting is maybe also seen as less ethical because animals are hurt or killed just for the fun of humans or their desire to quickly earn money while at lottery games no one is hurt except losers who have bet funds they couldn't afford to lose. In addition cock fighting is less mixed in terms of gender from what I saw while lottery is equally played by men and women, and is often associated with alcohol and tobacco consumption.
The biggest difference between the two is that cockfighting is expensive, while the lottery is cheap. Of course, one wouldn't be happy losing a lot of money in gambling, while with the lottery, it's okay to lose a small amount. Besides, the lottery is government-sponsored, and the proceeds will be used for government projects. With that, even if you lose money with the lottery, you'll still feel good as you were able to help people, while losing in cockfighting, you'll only help the operators get richer.

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February 25, 2024, 08:49:20 PM
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I have some idea why people respect the lotto franchise owner while the other hates the cockpit owner.  The reason is that lotto is run by the government while the cockpit arena may have a license but they are not under the government wing.  Just like what AmoreJaz stated.
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On this note, I think people have different approach to these 2 gambling areas because for one, lottery is under their government management, in which people see it as good, as this gambling game is also funding their charity activities. Whereas, most cockpit arenas are privately owned where the owners are just the only ones benefiting from it financially.

People are too biased, they don't mind as long as it is under the government and they get alarmed when the gambling is run by private individuals.

Aside from that,  Buying ticket in lottery does not consume much of the people's time, it does not steal the precious moment of some people's father, husband, or partner since after the person bought a ticket, there is nothing for him to do but to go home.  While in a cockpit arena, gamblers have to stay or watch for several hours depending on the number of entries.  It is more likely the reason why people give respect to the lottery guy and hate the cockpit guy.

Cock fighting is maybe also seen as less ethical because animals are hurt or killed just for the fun of humans or their desire to quickly earn money while at lottery games no one is hurt except losers who have bet funds they couldn't afford to lose. In addition cock fighting is less mixed in terms of gender from what I saw while lottery is equally played by men and women, and is often associated with alcohol and tobacco consumption.
The biggest difference between the two is that cockfighting is expensive, while the lottery is cheap. Of course, one wouldn't be happy losing a lot of money in gambling, while with the lottery, it's okay to lose a small amount. Besides, the lottery is government-sponsored, and the proceeds will be used for government projects. With that, even if you lose money with the lottery, you'll still feel good as you were able to help people, while losing in cockfighting, you'll only help the operators get richer.

No, they are both expensive since people can buy more than one ticket or even use all their money just to buy tickets, while people can also bet a small amount of money on cockfighting.  One can even bet lower than $1 since the amount won is dependent on the amount of money the person wagers and the odds of the match they bet on.  So I think it is not a matter of how expensive but how much a person is willing to spend, and in this scenario, people love spending money on cockfighting than the lottery.
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February 25, 2024, 08:50:01 PM
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Cock fighting is maybe also seen as less ethical because animals are hurt or killed just for the fun of humans or their desire to quickly earn money while at lottery games no one is hurt except losers who have bet funds they couldn't afford to lose. In addition cock fighting is less mixed in terms of gender from what I saw while lottery is equally played by men and women, and is often associated with alcohol and tobacco consumption.
The biggest difference between the two is that cockfighting is expensive, while the lottery is cheap. Of course, one wouldn't be happy losing a lot of money in gambling, while with the lottery, it's okay to lose a small amount. Besides, the lottery is government-sponsored, and the proceeds will be used for government projects. With that, even if you lose money with the lottery, you'll still feel good as you were able to help people, while losing in cockfighting, you'll only help the operators get richer.
Yes this is in point because if we do tend to look at on the money that you could really be able to spend then cockfighting is really that expensive specially if you are the one whose the owner or the
ones who do really raise up that chicken and just that been said or mentioned above that having those maintenance of those things wont come cheap. This is why it would really be that
normal that people around on whose aware on what cockfighting is, then they would really be that normal that they would really be having those words. In lottery then this is something
that could wrecked up your life on spending money into it, as long you are sticking with a small amount of ticket then even if you do bet on everyday, you wont really be finding
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I wonder why these two brothers receive different impressions when both are running a gambling platform, honestly, I prefer my friends and relatives to bet on the lotto but I advise them to be careful when playing in a cockpit, because in a cockpit arena, you can wipe out all your money and you end up empty-handed because the games are continuous you have no control and you are tempted to continue playing or lose everything whereas in Lotto you can allocate your bets.

Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?
There is something so special about gambling that cannot be ignored no irrespective of how much we try and that is luck. People associate luck to gambling more than anything else and that is fine because luck actually play a big role in gambling. The people in your city that are following the shop owner where winnings have been happening believe that luck is on his side so they have to follow what is working. Anyone in such a situation will always go in that direction because the ultimate aim of gambling is to win. People are more moved by results, that is why whenever there is massive winnings from gambling many new gamblers.



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In these parts!, I don't know if it is because they don't like that gossip so much, or maybe maybe those conversations are not so everyday, let's say that years ago, maybe yes, in fact in my country  is very normal see  lottery bets are everywhere, not the same with betting to "Pelea de Gallos," they do that in towns, another thing that is seen a lot are the pool halls.

Now, regardless of the fact that nowadays people do whatever and they don't care if they are criticized or not, because the real victims are their families and not the gossipers, the criticism always It is aimed at gamblers, the owner of those clubs, no one knows them.

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That's exactly how wonderful people can possibly be sometimes... There's no difference between the lottery and the cock-pit fight: Call it what you want, it has the same risk involved... The funny part is that these people know too well the risk involved and they go ahead with it.

from my own perspective, I'd term lottery to be more riskier than any other virtual gamings for obvious reasons.... Hitting the jackpot out of a blue isn't guaranteed... secondly, cock fighting requires a little amount of stakes at a time compared to lottery.

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In these parts!, I don't know if it is because they don't like that gossip so much, or maybe maybe those conversations are not so everyday, let's say that years ago, maybe yes, in fact in my country  is very normal see  lottery bets are everywhere, not the same with betting to "Pelea de Gallos," they do that in towns, another thing that is seen a lot are the pool halls.

Now, regardless of the fact that nowadays people do whatever and they don't care if they are criticized or not, because the real victims are their families and not the gossipers, the criticism always It is aimed at gamblers, the owner of those clubs, no one knows them.
People has always something have to say basing up on the things that they could really be able to see into those people around whether from those gamblers or owners then there would really be no exemption to that. Its true that majority wont really be taking care whether they are criticized or not. People would really be just the minding with their own actions and wont really be loving
on hearing out the words that they are really that hearing around. Its not on their fkin business on what you should gonna do with your money and as an owner neither of those two
types then it is really that your choice on what are the things that you are dealing with. Dont put up some attention into those sayings around.

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February 25, 2024, 09:46:27 PM
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I just noticed here in our city, that two brothers own different gambling platforms people have different impressions of each one of them, the first one owns a lottery outlet and he is getting respect from people from all walks of life, people look upon him as a giver of luck because many people hit consolations from his Lotto outlet

The other one is the owner of Cockpit Arena and many people despise him because many of their husbands and fathers lose a lot of money and go home empty-handed

I wonder why these two brothers receive different impressions when both are running a gambling platform, honestly, I prefer my friends and relatives to bet on the lotto but I advise them to be careful when playing in a cockpit, because in a cockpit arena, you can wipe out all your money and you end up empty-handed because the games are continuous you have no control and you are tempted to continue playing or lose everything whereas in Lotto you can allocate your bets.

Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?

No, because in my country gambling is prohibited, so all we have are official lotteries and some small unregulated bets that are generally not widely known to the public.
But, the perception of these two people is highly linked to the amount of money that people put into each game.. take a look: In the lottery it is not common for people to put in a lot of money, generally they bet lower amounts but with a regularity/frequency and this hardly causes them to lose all their money.
On the other hand, the second brother promotes a bet that deals with great emotions in a practically "online" way, that is... depending on how the duels occur, a small bet can turn into an "all-in" when the adrenaline rushes. is high and this will certainly result in disappointment for many people at the end of the day.

But I ask you: Which of the brothers makes more money? I don't think he's the owner of the lottery, right!? Cheesy

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February 25, 2024, 09:55:58 PM
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Guess the major difference here is;: that one is systematic while the other is traditional in setting,  this is the only difference and reason why those around treat both brothers differently and for sure it will be very ok if the lottery ticket seller and the cockpit operators have a balanced ground since their brothers and gambling is all the same regardless of name,  system or mechanism employed in running them,  it will be better if one resigns for the other although it will be hard to achieve that, this is brothers we are talking about if the cockpit owner has hard community negative perceptions,  it better to end such business if he cares about how other community members sees and treat him.

Is still very much better and respectful to own a lottery shop,  compared to owning an animal fighting put,  life animals are used for gambling which also has physical effects on those animals.
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The other one is the owner of Cockpit Arena and many people despise him because many of their husbands and fathers lose a lot of money and go home empty-handed

It could be that when someone places a lottery bet, he is betting secretly without many people knowing, including his wife and family members. So many people, including their wives and families, don't know about someone's lottery betting activities. And if we talk about cockfighting or other animal fighting, then individuals who like this type of betting cannot do it secretly, to be able to place a bet they have to come to the place where the cockfighting takes place, so this makes the individual's betting activity it will be easier for other people to know, including his wife and family.

Because I cannot conclude that those who bet on the lottery, their expenses are smaller compared to those who bet on the cockpit. Or vice versa. I think when this activity became known to his wife and family, and realized that the individual had lost a lot of money in the bets he made. This will give rise to the same perspective, whether it is on lottery or cockpit betting.

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Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?

Yes that happens too and it could be as a result the different packages that they both have, that will determine the one that people will like more, from odds, customer service etc. Like in my country, there are two major sportbook one is bet9ja and the second is known as betking, so they are both rivals somehow. . The complaint about them is regards to odd, they complain that the odd from betking is rather smaller compared to bet9ja. So this happens across where there is business competition and it is healthy so that the company will increase or upgrade her standard and the utility gets to the customer.

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From your story, I can conclude people like the first brother because he gives consolation prizes to gamblers, so they see him as a nice guy who isn't greedy on his business. On the other hand, the second brother is negatively rated by your community, because he only cares about grabbing most money he can from local gamblers, without returning anything to them in counterpart. That is, he is seen as greedy, egoistical and selfish. Maybe it's all about charisma. The first brother is charismatic and charming, while giving the impression he somehow care for people. And this kind of collective imaginary starts being built inside your community, until becoming common sense.

In the end, it's all about perceptions the public has about the two brothers, although in fact we never know the true nature of their characters behind the public image they present to the community, the called 'social mask'.

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February 25, 2024, 10:14:47 PM
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I just noticed here in our city, that two brothers own different gambling platforms people have different impressions of each one of them, the first one owns a lottery outlet and he is getting respect from people from all walks of life, people look upon him as a giver of luck because many people hit consolations from his Lotto outlet


The other one is the owner of Cockpit Arena and many people despise him because many of their husbands and fathers lose a lot of money and go home empty-handed


I wonder why these two brothers receive different impressions when both are running a gambling platform, honestly, I prefer my friends and relatives to bet on the lotto but I advise them to be careful when playing in a cockpit, because in a cockpit arena, you can wipe out all your money and you end up empty-handed because the games are continuous you have no control and you are tempted to continue playing or lose everything whereas in Lotto you can allocate your bets.

Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?
Where I live cock fighting or any kind of fighting between animals organized by humans is illegal, so at least in my case I would look down on any establishment that allows this, even if in the country in which it took place such an activity was legal, and since I do not think I am alone on this, this could explain why one of those brothers is getting the respect of the community, while the other is despised for the way they are taking advantage of some poor animals.

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