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February 26, 2024, 11:28:07 AM
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Even though both types of business are gambling, they are different. Why the owner of the lotto outlet is more respected by people is probably because he provides more transparent and good service to the gamblers who want to play there, so many people praise him for that. Meanwhile, why people ridicule the arena cockpit owner more is probably because the business they run may not be very transparent and fair - you know how the cockfighting gambling business is operated, usually there is a lot of injustice and fraud there. So because of the service and how the gambling business is run, people's views on gambling operators can be different.

This is not the real reason if you are familiar on both gambling operators like this. Judging by the OP picture. It’s from the Philippines since it’s a PCSO lotto outlet while cockfighting is very popular here at the same time.

Cockfighting is heavily criticized here because many husband here becomes addicted that causes huge losses since it’s a fast phase game unlike lottery that people needs to wait for a day for draw while there’s a fix cost per tickets. Cockfighting is very expensive gambling because rooster conditioning is very meticulous and expensive at the same time.

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February 26, 2024, 12:27:44 PM
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Cock fighting is maybe also seen as less ethical because animals are hurt or killed just for the fun of humans or their desire to quickly earn money while at lottery games no one is hurt except losers who have bet funds they couldn't afford to lose. In addition cock fighting is less mixed in terms of gender from what I saw while lottery is equally played by men and women, and is often associated with alcohol and tobacco consumption.
The biggest difference between the two is that cockfighting is expensive, while the lottery is cheap. Of course, one wouldn't be happy losing a lot of money in gambling, while with the lottery, it's okay to lose a small amount. Besides, the lottery is government-sponsored, and the proceeds will be used for government projects. With that, even if you lose money with the lottery, you'll still feel good as you were able to help people, while losing in cockfighting, you'll only help the operators get richer.

No, they are both expensive since people can buy more than one ticket or even use all their money just to buy tickets, while people can also bet a small amount of money on cockfighting.  One can even bet lower than $1 since the amount won is dependent on the amount of money the person wagers and the odds of the match they bet on.  So I think it is not a matter of how expensive but how much a person is willing to spend, and in this scenario, people love spending money on cockfighting than the lottery.

I'm referring to the average bet. If people love spending money on cockfighting more than the lottery, then why is the government making billions from the lottery? Lottery has a wide market as it is present anywhere; now, we can even bet online, while it was already illegal to bet on cockfighting online in the Philippines. Probably the ratio is 1 :1000, 1 cockfighting arena is equivalent to 1000 lottery outlets.

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February 26, 2024, 12:34:54 PM
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I just noticed here in our city, that two brothers own different gambling platforms people have different impressions of each one of them, the first one owns a lottery outlet and he is getting respect from people from all walks of life, people look upon him as a giver of luck because many people hit consolations from his Lotto outlet

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The other one is the owner of Cockpit Arena and many people despise him because many of their husbands and fathers lose a lot of money and go home empty-handed

I wonder why these two brothers receive different impressions when both are running a gambling platform, honestly, I prefer my friends and relatives to bet on the lotto but I advise them to be careful when playing in a cockpit, because in a cockpit arena, you can wipe out all your money and you end up empty-handed because the games are continuous you have no control and you are tempted to continue playing or lose everything whereas in Lotto you can allocate your bets.

Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?

When we are making discussions about gambling, everyone has the right in making the choice of what they want and prefer, there are times that it is our own personal decisions that are of interest to us unlike the ones received as suggestions from others, we can also go for what we have passion for, know about and understand very well, since it is believed that gambling is a form of having entertainment, we can make decision on where to use and how to go about it, this could also be affected by the environment we are living in and the kind of gambling games that are predominant there.

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February 26, 2024, 12:38:54 PM
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When we are making discussions about gambling, everyone has the right in making the choice of what they want and prefer, there are times that it is our own personal decisions that are of interest to us unlike the ones received as suggestions from others, we can also go for what we have passion for, know about and understand very well, since it is believed that gambling is a form of having entertainment, we can make decision on where to use and how to go about it, this could also be affected by the environment we are living in and the kind of gambling games that are predominant there.
Of course, who would gamble if we are not enjoying what we are doing? We want the thrill, and gambling gives that to us. I mean, there are other types of entertainment, but gambling is for people who love to take a higher risk. We are risking money to win money, and not everyone can do that, as some don't want to take a higher risk or consider gambling as a sin.

Perception doesn't matter at all; we are responsible on our own. We live how we want and don't mind what other people would say. As long as it's gambling, it doesn't matter what type of gambling; it still belongs to one class, which means it should have the same perception from people.

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February 26, 2024, 01:21:28 PM
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Cock fighting is maybe also seen as less ethical because animals are hurt or killed just for the fun of humans or their desire to quickly earn money while at lottery games no one is hurt except losers who have bet funds they couldn't afford to lose. In addition cock fighting is less mixed in terms of gender from what I saw while lottery is equally played by men and women, and is often associated with alcohol and tobacco consumption.
The biggest difference between the two is that cockfighting is expensive, while the lottery is cheap. Of course, one wouldn't be happy losing a lot of money in gambling, while with the lottery, it's okay to lose a small amount. Besides, the lottery is government-sponsored, and the proceeds will be used for government projects. With that, even if you lose money with the lottery, you'll still feel good as you were able to help people, while losing in cockfighting, you'll only help the operators get richer.

No, they are both expensive since people can buy more than one ticket or even use all their money just to buy tickets, while people can also bet a small amount of money on cockfighting.  One can even bet lower than $1 since the amount won is dependent on the amount of money the person wagers and the odds of the match they bet on.  So I think it is not a matter of how expensive but how much a person is willing to spend, and in this scenario, people love spending money on cockfighting than the lottery.

I'm referring to the average bet. If people love spending money on cockfighting more than the lottery, then why is the government making billions from the lottery? Lottery has a wide market as it is present anywhere; now, we can even bet online, while it was already illegal to bet on cockfighting online in the Philippines. Probably the ratio is 1 :1000, 1 cockfighting arena is equivalent to 1000 lottery outlets.
When it comes to calculations then there's no such thing about precise numbers about it. We do know that each country does have their own particular takings on how those gambling
neither lottery or cockfighting to be allowed or not. Of course they would really be that focusing into those games on which they could benefit out the most when it comes to taxation
and why would really be needing to choose if they could allow both things on which we know that this could really be something that will really be beneficial if we do speak about economic matters.
Speaking about perceptions in between those gambling platform owners then it would really be something personal and its not something that we could really be able to generalize.

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February 26, 2024, 01:21:41 PM
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What i understand about each of them is that. The first brother gambling store operates typically by luck and a gambler is gambling online so you don't know who to blame when you lose your money. But the other brother has a store that you gamble with other gamblers. It's a one-on-one gambling environment where you just don't rely on luck to win but you have to be skillful in it. This is why there must be a winner and a loss in gambling but there are more physically losers in the second gambling environment.

Most persons prefer losing money online since they cannot go and meet anyone for refund. But whenever they lose money physically, they will always know who to meet and create a scene or fight. This is part of human nature.

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February 26, 2024, 01:45:55 PM
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Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?
That's for sure, maybe we know that different countries have different types of gambling games that are held and played, in view, differences from the operator's point of view are normal and often occur in the gambling arena, There are several types of gambling that people like and some that they hate, the fact is that they both risk money, but that's how humans have different views, judgments and visions.

For example, and the facts that occur in my area, there are two types of games, horse racing and cockfighting, two types of games that have different views on operators, many bettors like horse racing operators, Not with cockfighting, many people hate operators, however, understanding of operators still exists, it's a phenomenon that often occurs everywhere.

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February 26, 2024, 02:49:35 PM
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The lottery store owner basks in social approval. Why? Because the lottery is a dream machine and harmless flutter. Small investments with strong hopes burn slowly. The slim chance to change lives is seen as a chance. The key? Infrequent, regulated, almost ritualistic

Alternatively, the cockpit arena owner is ignored. Because it's direct, visceral, and ongoing. Not just gaming, but a high-stakes marathon with immediate losses. It exploits excitement and desperation for quick, catastrophic results. The difference? Control; or its illusion. Lotto lets you dream; the cockpit shatters them live

Both platforms are gambling, but our minds make us see them differently. How the act is depicted matters more than the act itself. The lesson? Perception matters. It blurs judgment, affects beliefs, and splits opinions. Next time you wonder why impressions differ, remember that presentation and effect matter.

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February 26, 2024, 03:29:37 PM
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I just noticed here in our city, that two brothers own different gambling platforms people have different impressions of each one of them, the first one owns a lottery outlet and he is getting respect from people from all walks of life, people look upon him as a giver of luck because many people hit consolations from his Lotto outlet

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The other one is the owner of Cockpit Arena and many people despise him because many of their husbands and fathers lose a lot of money and go home empty-handed

I wonder why these two brothers receive different impressions when both are running a gambling platform, honestly, I prefer my friends and relatives to bet on the lotto but I advise them to be careful when playing in a cockpit, because in a cockpit arena, you can wipe out all your money and you end up empty-handed because the games are continuous you have no control and you are tempted to continue playing or lose everything whereas in Lotto you can allocate your bets.

Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?

When we are making discussions about gambling, everyone has the right in making the choice of what they want and prefer, there are times that it is our own personal decisions that are of interest to us unlike the ones received as suggestions from others, we can also go for what we have passion for, know about and understand very well, since it is believed that gambling is a form of having entertainment, we can make decision on where to use and how to go about it, this could also be affected by the environment we are living in and the kind of gambling games that are predominant there.
Has a point however I think it is because of categorization. Gambling is gambling in any form possible. Discriminative point of view between games doesn't really making any relevance in a broad perspective but obviously this will be more concerned with registration and the manner where operators are being legal or illegal to a country where it is being operated or being done or offered. I don't agree with the idea that you would lose more, depending on the game. You would only lose huge amount depending on your discipline and not with the gambling game you are into. If you are playing big amount with gambling game number 1, but daily with number 2, then that's just the same thing in the long run. Higher frequency would more likely result to higher tendencies of loss.
What i understand about each of them is that. The first brother gambling store operates typically by luck and a gambler is gambling online so you don't know who to blame when you lose your money. But the other brother has a store that you gamble with other gamblers. It's a one-on-one gambling environment where you just don't rely on luck to win but you have to be skillful in it. This is why there must be a winner and a loss in gambling but there are more physically losers in the second gambling environment.

Most persons prefer losing money online since they cannot go and meet anyone for refund. But whenever they lose money physically, they will always know who to meet and create a scene or fight. This is part of human nature.
But that's just the platform. Well, online gambling indeed is more convenient but that doesn't create a bad impression especially when it comes on which one is either good or bad. Both could be convenient depending on gambler's preference of betting. No one prefers to lose; of course we all desire to win.

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February 26, 2024, 04:54:14 PM
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Well, just by looking at these two photos I can already see why one is being well regarded while the other is being poorly regarded and criticized. lottery is something that the person is not sacrificing any animal, lottery is something legal, lottery they sell in stores and the price of lottery is very low which means that people spend little money buying and people will hardly spend a lot of money buying tickets lottery because people know that winning the lottery depends on luck and anyone from any social class will go to a store to buy lottery tickets. This is something that is acceptable in most countries in the world so this person who sells lottery tickets would not be frowned upon because he is not breaking laws and is not causing harm to anyone. It's very different from the case of the guy who's doing cockfighting

Even if the guy who organizes cockfights uses the argument that he has a license and what he does is legal in this country, it is still a cruel practice, the animals don't think, when they fight they are fighting with the intention of killing each other and always in a cruel way, it is very different from fighting between people as a legal sport in which there are rules and people don't kill each other. So it's something shocking for most people in society to see this type of fight, most people in society condemn, repudiate and criticize this type of fight. This is mistreatment of animals, so there's no way not to criticize the guy who promises cockfights, he's making a profit thanks to the suffering of roosters. Another point is that normally when betting you always spend more money and win less money, unlike the lottery where you spend little and win a lot of money when the person is lucky

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February 26, 2024, 05:04:17 PM
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The lottery store owner basks in social approval. Why? Because the lottery is a dream machine and harmless flutter. Small investments with strong hopes burn slowly. The slim chance to change lives is seen as a chance. The key? Infrequent, regulated, almost ritualistic

Alternatively, the cockpit arena owner is ignored. Because it's direct, visceral, and ongoing. Not just gaming, but a high-stakes marathon with immediate losses. It exploits excitement and desperation for quick, catastrophic results. The difference? Control; or its illusion. Lotto lets you dream; the cockpit shatters them live

Both platforms are gambling, but our minds make us see them differently. How the act is depicted matters more than the act itself. The lesson? Perception matters. It blurs judgment, affects beliefs, and splits opinions. Next time you wonder why impressions differ, remember that presentation and effect matter.

It could be the illusion or sensation of control over gambling has much to do with the amounts of money people usually risks in those activities. When playing lottery, gamblers will only buy one or two tickets which could be translated to a few dollars (depending on the country and the local currency), if they lose, the gambler had already an idea on how slim the chances were and do not take it personal, moving on easier and quickly from the event. Contrary to cockfighting, where people can wager thousands of dollars at the same time for the victory of a single cock. The result is an obvious and more dramatic impact on the personal finances of those who decide to partake in cockfights than those who play lottery.

It is easier to reach bankruptcy by playing with roosters than it is through buying lottery tickets. I have never met anyone who got their life ruined by playing lotteries from time to time.  Tongue

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February 26, 2024, 09:24:08 PM
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I understand your discourse but I must say that people`s opinion is not about the owners of the different gambling platforms but the nature of the game. People might hold a better view of the Lotto since more persons record winning than they do in the Cockpit Arena gambling and that is why they prefer the Lotto. But then, few persons might have recorded wins in the Cockpit Arena game and so might prefer the Cockpit Arena gambling because if everyone holds a negative mindset about the Cockpit Arena gambling then why are there still players? Why is the Cockpit Arena gambling still in business?

However, in my country betting on animal fights is illegal because it can pose a threat to public health and safety. These events can attract large crowds, which can lead to the spread of diseases and other health hazards. Additionally, the violence and chaos that can occur at these events can put spectators at risk of injury or even death.

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It's simple and you already said the reason.  If people consistently lose somewhere they are going to eventually hate that place.  And on the flipside if you had some nice hits at another place and there were no issues with payouts then people tend to like those locations.  So depending on the person and theor gambling winning and losing history at a particular place you will get different reviews.  I would listen to any of them and judge by yourself.

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February 26, 2024, 11:04:29 PM
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Maybe in terms of the game it's more fun to play lotto, maybe because people often win it, but in the Cockpit arena it's not completely hated because it depends on a person's character and environment, maybe people in the city prefer lotto and in the village prefers the Cockpit
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March 03, 2024, 04:37:38 AM
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Cockpit gambling and lotto. Op have you thought of comparing the engulfing excitement, entertainment and fun that follows with the cockpit fights to the lotto where you just come and do your thing make your picks and go home. In cockpit you have the pleasure of watching the action between the cocks and one can easily get carried away with all of that making him to perpetually bet all his money on each loss made without realizing it till there's no money to bet still.

Moreover, when people engage in any form of gambling it should they ought to be in the knowing that it's a side ways occurrence, you either win or lose money, but the chances of losing broadly outweighs that of winning. And you can't tell me it's all the people that plays lotto that do earn a win, it's just residual on the individual to stick to gambling responsibly by knowing when to stop without being told.



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March 03, 2024, 05:00:38 AM
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It depends on personal objectives or programming. I believe that if you want to play gamble, be it Lotto or cockpit there should be a need for monetary regulation. For my own opinion i don see reason to why people would spend more on cockfight than lotto. Cockfight is like virtual game where you watch your money drain right in your present. But in Lotto or any other games takes atleast 1 to 24hours before the results may come up that will give you opportunity to program yourself for the next game. Instead of continuously playing an endless game that will suck or drain your fund before leaving the premises. In my country I haven't seen this type of cockfight gambling before and even if it exists I dont like it. I prefer online gambling.

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March 03, 2024, 05:05:25 AM
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Here in our country, since the majority are poor people, all these people seek to get out of poverty. And their only solution, even if they are poor or find it hard to get money, is to bet on the lottery. In short, the mindset of most people here is "Lotto is our hope."

Even middle-class people bet on the lottery. I sometimes bet there too. So as Op told, there is still a consolation price that is given to lotto bettors, and the owner's strategy is quite unique and good. Unlike in the cockpit, many families are really destroyed by that matter.



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March 03, 2024, 06:35:55 PM
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Maybe those people did not know that both operators are related to each other? And if only they knew it, they may also give the same treatment as a way of saying thanks. Another reason is that lottery games are applicable to both genders, while cock fight games were mostly built for the men and a lot of husbands treats their cocks more than their family, no wonder why a lot of wife and kids are jealous to it.

As we can see, there is a lack of control there and that can also happen to the lottery bettors in which they can buy multiple cards in one game. There are quick lottery games too apart from the regular ones, so being addicted is still possible here, which could be the main cause of misunderstanding.

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March 03, 2024, 08:47:18 PM
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What i understand about each of them is that. The first brother gambling store operates typically by luck and a gambler is gambling online so you don't know who to blame when you lose your money. But the other brother has a store that you gamble with other gamblers. It's a one-on-one gambling environment where you just don't rely on luck to win but you have to be skillful in it. This is why there must be a winner and a loss in gambling but there are more physically losers in the second gambling environment.

Most persons prefer losing money online since they cannot go and meet anyone for refund. But whenever they lose money physically, they will always know who to meet and create a scene or fight. This is part of human nature.
That is a nice way to put it, when people face adversity of any kind, they like to blame an external factor in order to avoid taking responsibility for what has happened, and with lotto this is very easy as you can always blame your bad luck for losing so many times in a row, but when it comes to cock fighting this is not possible, since the ones that know the most about it should be the ones to win, so in that case the losers cannot shift their responsibility away so easily and because of it they prefer to blame the owner.
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It's simple and you already said the reason.  If people consistently lose somewhere they are going to eventually hate that place.  And on the flipside if you had some nice hits at another place and there were no issues with payouts then people tend to like those locations.  So depending on the person and theor gambling winning and losing history at a particular place you will get different reviews.  I would listen to any of them and judge by yourself.

I'm pretty sure that people are not losing consistently on the Cockpit Arena. If ti were so, the Arena wouldn't exist by this time, because no one would go there. People in general don't like to lose their money, they want to win from time to time, and I think that's exactly what's happening on the Cockpit Arena. OP just heard more stories from losers, that's all.

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