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March 04, 2024, 02:15:16 PM
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This the the most stupid thing I've ever heard today, they despise him for what? Is the the one controlling the chicken? People can be mean at times, what's this? The fate of who wins and who lose depend on the performance of those chickens, one have to lose and one have to win.

The problem isn't the game owner but that of the people who are coming to risk all they have on the game, they are irresponsible that's why their family are hating the game owner which is wrong, they should hate their own brothers and fathers for throwing money away this so easily.

It's best if they can control their people to be a responsible gambler instead of hating the game owner, this can also be the case with the first brother than has a gambling location, these are both gambling and no different, just risk only what you can afford to lose and you will be alright.

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March 13, 2024, 07:16:43 AM
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This the the most stupid thing I've ever heard today, they despise him for what? Is the the one controlling the chicken? People can be mean at times, what's this? The fate of who wins and who lose depend on the performance of those chickens, one have to lose and one have to win.

The problem isn't the game owner but that of the people who are coming to risk all they have on the game, they are irresponsible that's why their family are hating the game owner which is wrong, they should hate their own brothers and fathers for throwing money away this so easily.

It's best if they can control their people to be a responsible gambler instead of hating the game owner, this can also be the case with the first brother than has a gambling location, these are both gambling and no different, just risk only what you can afford to lose and you will be alright.

I think this is what happens there: the Cockpit Arena, like any other casino, just provides a platform to gamble. No one is forcing people to lose all their their money there. First of all, they have to be responsible gamblers and only then they can go in places like that. There would be no problems then.

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March 13, 2024, 08:15:55 AM
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I understand your discourse but I must say that people`s opinion is not about the owners of the different gambling platforms but the nature of the game. People might hold a better view of the Lotto since more persons record winning than they do in the Cockpit Arena gambling and that is why they prefer the Lotto. But then, few persons might have recorded wins in the Cockpit Arena game and so might prefer the Cockpit Arena gambling because if everyone holds a negative mindset about the Cockpit Arena gambling then why are there still players? Why is the Cockpit Arena gambling still in business?

However, in my country betting on animal fights is illegal because it can pose a threat to public health and safety. These events can attract large crowds, which can lead to the spread of diseases and other health hazards. Additionally, the violence and chaos that can occur at these events can put spectators at risk of injury or even death.
I don't think so, these two types of bets are different and of course the way predictions work will also be very different because in lotto or lottery everything will be based on luck to win and this is bet that is much more difficult to win.
Talking about winning, in reality bets on cockfighting or animal fighting can be much easier to win because you can see the quality of the animal being fought and you can clearly assess the character of each animal based on who owns it.
This has become group and in some countries it has become quite expensive hobby, in Asia there are several countries that have big championships related to animal fighting or cockfighting.
Just look at Thailand, there are various official championships which are actually national championships and those who become champions are chickens owned by well-known people and the price of chickens can reach tens of thousands of dollars.
There cockfighting is considered better than the lottery and this cannot be denied.

Not all countries will give permission for animal fighting or Cockpit Arena betting because some countries have certain cultures which consider animal fighting to be an don't ethical activity.
But in some countries there has been culture of animal fighting for long time or it has become cultural heritage that is still maintained today. From what I know, animal fighting culture is the most popular in Asian countries, especially Southeast Asia.

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March 13, 2024, 01:43:58 PM
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That is a nice way to put it, when people face adversity of any kind, they like to blame an external factor in order to avoid taking responsibility for what has happened, and with lotto this is very easy as you can always blame your bad luck for losing so many times in a row, but when it comes to cock fighting this is not possible, since the ones that know the most about it should be the ones to win, so in that case the losers cannot shift their responsibility away so easily and because of it they prefer to blame the owner.
Most people will blame their bad luck and will try to playing gambling in the other days. When they lose, they will becomes anxious about their lose and will try more and more because they thinks that they still have another chance to win. No matter what the gambling games, they will try because they feels that someday they can gets their money back plus their win money. They must know that playing gambling needs to have responsibility to avoids the big losses that can comes anytime. This is not realizes by many gamblers because they still trying to playing gambling excessively and that makes them lose much money without having a chance to gets their money back.

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March 13, 2024, 08:24:28 PM
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Most people will blame their bad luck and will try to playing gambling in the other days. When they lose, they will becomes anxious about their lose and will try more and more because they thinks that they still have another chance to win. No matter what the gambling games, they will try because they feels that someday they can gets their money back plus their win money. They must know that playing gambling needs to have responsibility to avoids the big losses that can comes anytime. This is not realizes by many gamblers because they still trying to playing gambling excessively and that makes them lose much money without having a chance to gets their money back.
There is a pervasive tendency among many people to attribute their losses to bad luck, which often leads them to engage in gambling repeatedly in the hopes of reversing their fortunes. They believe that another opportunity to win will eventually emerge that makes this cycle of trying to recoup losses by further gambling. This pattern persists because gamblers cling to the possibility of not only recovering their initial losses but also making additional profits.

Many gamblers fail to control themself from involving the inherent risk involved in gambling. Engaging in gambling activities necessitates a level of self-awareness and restraint to prevent significant financial losses. This aspect is often overlooked by compulsive gamblers who continue to pursue their habit excessively, disregarding the potential consequences. The allure of potential winnings can be enticing, it's imperative to recognize the reality that losses are an inherent part of the gambling experience.

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March 13, 2024, 08:33:38 PM
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That is a nice way to put it, when people face adversity of any kind, they like to blame an external factor in order to avoid taking responsibility for what has happened, and with lotto this is very easy as you can always blame your bad luck for losing so many times in a row, but when it comes to cock fighting this is not possible, since the ones that know the most about it should be the ones to win, so in that case the losers cannot shift their responsibility away so easily and because of it they prefer to blame the owner.
Most people will blame their bad luck and will try to playing gambling in the other days. When they lose, they will becomes anxious about their lose and will try more and more because they thinks that they still have another chance to win. No matter what the gambling games, they will try because they feels that someday they can gets their money back plus their win money. They must know that playing gambling needs to have responsibility to avoids the big losses that can comes anytime. This is not realizes by many gamblers because they still trying to playing gambling excessively and that makes them lose much money without having a chance to gets their money back.

For that reason I never try this type of Strategy , I get the idea that what I lost playing in a casino is because I had to do it that way and not that way, so every time I start playing I'm not looking to recover anything and I focus on Playing the Best I can, trying to win.

Before, when I started Playing I Always tried to recover the Money I had lost in other days , Making my game become a lot of Stress , a lot of pressure and I was afraid of losing more money, I learned that in this way you have to take Advantage of the good that Comes out and to withdraw the money, if you do not withdraw and you lose the money Again, it is better to leave and have Something to spend and enjoy and not stay there looking for some type of greater Reward , because I would call it Avarice, greed and that is what it does lose.
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March 13, 2024, 08:56:36 PM
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Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?

A cockpit arena owner is not a gambling operator. Technically, just owned the event and venue of cockfighting. The operators behind the cockfighting are far way more powerful and big people. If people despise the arena owner then they are barking at the wrong tree. The blame should be on their respective families and the "real operators" instead.

Besides, the environment between betting on the lotto and betting on cockfighting is different. In the lotto, an ordinary person can just easily bet there with a minimum of $0.5 per ticket (6 digits). In cockfighting, your $50 won't take you in the long run. We should also take note of the fact that lotto is easy to understand compared to cockfighting where you need to understand how betting takes place and you should also familiarize yourself with the terms used there.

It's not the treatment that should be highlighted but I think it's more of, the level of impact it brings on the gambler.
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March 13, 2024, 09:43:21 PM
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Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?

I think you have already given the reasons to why one of them is despised and the other isn't, well not entirely everyone has the same kind view for Lotto shops because some places and society detest gambling as a whole in the first place so they tend to ignore and avoid people that do the both things. But if am to choose, I will also choose the lotto shop over the cockpit arena because of the lack of control and I believe such place is filled with gambling addicts.

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March 14, 2024, 02:01:23 AM
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The case of the cockpit arena can be liken to our online casino that has unlimited winnings and we can continue to bet the whole day and many people instead of despising it would even recommend to others and I think the reason here is cause one they don't know the people behind it, they feel its all programmed and if they get it right they win, but in the other case they are seeing who is taking their money and they woudl see him as wicked cause they can also blame him for a level of manipulation.

The guy on the loto Stand is actually running a kind of luck based business and he takes very little for it, so most persons don't really care about those little pennies lost and some are never luck for even years but they still play because it is very cheap yo play.

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March 14, 2024, 03:53:49 AM
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There is a pervasive tendency among many people to attribute their losses to bad luck, which often leads them to engage in gambling repeatedly in the hopes of reversing their fortunes. They believe that another opportunity to win will eventually emerge that makes this cycle of trying to recoup losses by further gambling. This pattern persists because gamblers cling to the possibility of not only recovering their initial losses but also making additional profits.

Many gamblers fail to control themself from involving the inherent risk involved in gambling. Engaging in gambling activities necessitates a level of self-awareness and restraint to prevent significant financial losses. This aspect is often overlooked by compulsive gamblers who continue to pursue their habit excessively, disregarding the potential consequences. The allure of potential winnings can be enticing, it's imperative to recognize the reality that losses are an inherent part of the gambling experience.
That's why they must changed their minds that gambling is just an activity to fills your spare times. They don't have to have hopes that by playing gambling repeatedly, they can reversing their fortunes because they don't know when their luck will comes. They can only playing gambling as usual, trying to enjoy the gambling games, and not thinking about how to win the games. They don't have to recover their loss by playing gambling longer than usual because that will only makes them losing more money. That can makes their regrets becomes bigger and they will not be able to get their money.

Gamblers must be able to learn about their self-control so they don't gets the bigger risks from playing gambling. They must aware that playing gambling can makes their money lost and they will difficult to recovers. Gambling can tempting the gamblers and that can attracting many gamblers to comes and playing gambling. The gambler seeing gambling as ways to makes money although they will not easy to makes money. If gamblers can have a good self-control, they will not involved too deeper in gambling because they knows that gambling is just a fun activity that they don't have to be serious to used it.

For that reason I never try this type of Strategy , I get the idea that what I lost playing in a casino is because I had to do it that way and not that way, so every time I start playing I'm not looking to recover anything and I focus on Playing the Best I can, trying to win.

Before, when I started Playing I Always tried to recover the Money I had lost in other days , Making my game become a lot of Stress , a lot of pressure and I was afraid of losing more money, I learned that in this way you have to take Advantage of the good that Comes out and to withdraw the money, if you do not withdraw and you lose the money Again, it is better to leave and have Something to spend and enjoy and not stay there looking for some type of greater Reward , because I would call it Avarice, greed and that is what it does lose.
Every time you playing gambling, you must know that you have risks of losing the money so you must realizes that you must prevent the big losses from playing gambling. If you can't prevent the losses, that can impacts your emotion which can causes you losing much money.

I have the same experience as you and yes, that makes me lose much money and that caused me stress seeing my losses becomes bigger. Yes, the pressure becomes bigger and we can't holds our emotions easily that can caused us wants to recovers the losses. But if we can be wise seeing the situations, we will not trying to recovers but will trying to stop playing gambling immediately before our losses becomes bigger. If we can stop playing gambling immediately, we can save our money from the big losses and we can also prevents the chance to become addicted because getting losing the money because of playing gambling can makes us have an intention to recover it.

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Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?

I think you have already given the reasons to why one of them is despised and the other isn't, well not entirely everyone has the same kind view for Lotto shops because some places and society detest gambling as a whole in the first place so they tend to ignore and avoid people that do the both things. But if am to choose, I will also choose the lotto shop over the cockpit arena because of the lack of control and I believe such place is filled with gambling addicts.
It is true that in certain areas, gambling is viewed negatively, whereas lottery tickets are regarded positively. I believe it's critical to understand the motivations behind these sentiments. Some people consider gambling as a sort of fun, while others see it as a source of income. Meanwhile, lottery tickets may be viewed as a harmless kind of amusement or a chance to help a worthy cause.  I believe that the reason to gamble and buy lottery tickets can reveal a lot about a person's attitude and ideals. For example, if someone is driven by the excitement of winning and the prospect of making money, they may be more prone to engage in compulsive gambling and chase losses. On the other hand, if someone is motivated by the idea of supporting a good cause or giving back to the community, they might be more likely to buy lottery tickets without feeling the same pressure to win

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March 14, 2024, 07:36:08 AM
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I think we live on the same country. Well, people's perception is based on what type of gambling platform they offer. People see lotteries as form of entertainment that is based on luck wherein they can win big prices by just staking small amount of money. While for the other brother who owns a cockpit, in our country it's perceived negatively because many fathers who are involved in this type of gambling mostly affects their family financially due to high stakes that can lead to huge losses. It's important to be aware of the risk and make informed decisions of the type of gambling you want to get involved to
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Maybe in terms of the game it's more fun to play lotto, maybe because people often win it, but in the Cockpit arena it's not completely hated because it depends on a person's character and environment, maybe people in the city prefer lotto and in the village prefers the Cockpit

Or maybe cockpit is more traditional and manipulated or people feel that way as against loto that they have that close bond with as luck based and they also have winnings from it. Usually people will like what gives them money, the source that they get that benefit from or whoever is around that which give them money and in this case, the owner of the loto would get more showers of praises because when people play they also win from what they play from time to time as against where they don't have winnings. So naturally they may stay from what doesn't profit them. You gamble on a game where you think you will win and some gamblers even choose or prefer a particular gaming house or casino to another because of the winning they get.

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March 14, 2024, 07:49:36 AM
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it's just a subject reasoning of some people that one is better than the other whereas they are same but in a different environment. judging from the look of things people could be very sentimental for some reason that the cockpit arena could be filled with lots of gangsters and all manner of crime scene but for the lotto environment you could see it a civil place where people would come and go peacefully in a subject sense but in reality the same people who go to the cockpit arena are still the people in the lottos.

One thing about the sentiment is it's very much biased factored around wife's/partners.
Gambling is a fun thing so people enjoy it a lot so to increase the fun people use different games as gambling. They are a lot of fun but to use them only for fun one should bet as much as the loss he can accept with a smile. Different types of physical games and tournaments are very enjoyable so betting there is much more fun than online casinos so people enjoy them much better. And op's shared game is such a fun game



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Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?
I live in the same country as you. The reason why there are two different perceptions even though they are both gambling operators is because of the nature of the gambling they operate. The nature of the first one, which is the lotto outlet, is supported by the government. Meaning, that it is being promoted in a good way and even included in the television newscast to inform the citizens about the possible amount they can win.

While in the cockpit fight, you can never hear any good news about it. There are even some people who have gone missing or found dead because of it. Some people even say that the men of most families in our country who are into cockfighting are much more concerned with their rooster than their own child.


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I think we live on the same country. Well, people's perception is based on what type of gambling platform they offer. People see lotteries as form of entertainment that is based on luck wherein they can win big prices by just staking small amount of money. While for the other brother who owns a cockpit, in our country it's perceived negatively because many fathers who are involved in this type of gambling mostly affects their family financially due to high stakes that can lead to huge losses. It's important to be aware of the risk and make informed decisions of the type of gambling you want to get involved to

There is a culture that has been formed in the country where I live specifically with raffles, it turns out that there are people who are dedicated to bringing cars of the year, a 2024 corolla whose raffle ticket price is 100usd, and there is no longer one They have already sold all the numbers, where the car, according to what I asked, costs around $43k and since it is a number from 000-999 it is 99,900usd, which if the value of the car is discounted, you have net profits of 56900usd, 3 days Maybe they could sell that car, then of course, for many here where I live they see 100usd as enough to go and look for their 1 week market and that's it, others see it as an opportunity and well they are paying the ticket little by little, but it is something You think, winning in this raffle is very difficult, we are fighting against 99% of the problems of losing, we are people who can have a lot of faith, but the fact of thinking that you can win these prizes is something very cool, I think that the psychological part in games influences a lot, perhaps that is why this type of business is so lucrative today.

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March 18, 2024, 09:51:05 AM
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Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?
Most times manner of approach counts a lots there is some people who aren't respected today in our society even with all the money they have people still talks against them because of their evil attitudes but there is some middle people who are averagely rich but they are being more valued than those who got billions not because they are special but, they are hospitable and charitable and of curse the word like those who are meek in everything they do than the arrogant rich fools over there. Maybe this could likely be the case of these two brothers who are operating the same business but yet another is being cherished than the other and besides in everyone business everyone has their favorite customers due to attitudes, attitudes defines our latitudes.



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March 18, 2024, 10:37:03 AM
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it's just a subject reasoning of some people that one is better than the other whereas they are same but in a different environment. judging from the look of things people could be very sentimental for some reason that the cockpit arena could be filled with lots of gangsters and all manner of crime scene but for the lotto environment you could see it a civil place where people would come and go peacefully in a subject sense but in reality the same people who go to the cockpit arena are still the people in the lottos.

One thing about the sentiment is it's very much biased factored around wife's/partners.
Gambling is a fun thing so people enjoy it a lot so to increase the fun people use different games as gambling. They are a lot of fun but to use them only for fun one should bet as much as the loss he can accept with a smile.
I don't know if you can truly smile after losing mate? because I find it stupid and hypocrite
to tell people that you are smiling while standing in the game table losing all your money.
sometimes we need to be true to ourselves.

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Different types of physical games and tournaments are very enjoyable so betting there is much more fun than online casinos so people enjoy them much better. And op's shared game is such a fun game
it is indeed correct  about Physical games and tournament are enjoyable but that is when
our team is winning , but once we experience complete losing then that changed the moment
and the excitement is gone.

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I think we live on the same country. Well, people's perception is based on what type of gambling platform they offer. People see lotteries as form of entertainment that is based on luck wherein they can win big prices by just staking small amount of money. While for the other brother who owns a cockpit, in our country it's perceived negatively because many fathers who are involved in this type of gambling mostly affects their family financially due to high stakes that can lead to huge losses. It's important to be aware of the risk and make informed decisions of the type of gambling you want to get involved to
Little do they know that those lottery businesses are all rigged.
Both are gambling. So why does respect only come from one side? I have a different view. Lottery gambling is a cheap bet. You bet $1 you might get it back or maybe not. People are not affected way too much because of how cheap it is for a chance to get millions. But they don't even try to compute all the money they've spent on it. It might've been millions if you have been betting on the lottery for years.

It's different when it comes to cockfighting. One bet could mess up everything because the multiplier is way too low. You bet in one rooster and you might just get x1.80 if you win, if not, zero. There's no chance for a money-back only result unlike in the lottery.
Also, it's how fast the gamblers in the cockpit could lose everything. They play like there's no tomorrow so whatever amount is in their pockets, they will gamble it all.
I also heard that there's a pawnshop inside the cockpit where gamblers could pawn their gold possession if they want to continue gambling. That's the worst.
In short, one long-term gambling, and one short-term. This is why losers in cockfighting will definitely be seen as the bad guy and so does the owner of it.

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March 18, 2024, 01:01:08 PM
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I wonder why these two brothers receive different impressions when both are running a gambling platform, honestly, I prefer my friends and relatives to bet on the lotto but I advise them to be careful when playing in a cockpit, because in a cockpit arena, you can wipe out all your money and you end up empty-handed because the games are continuous you have no control and you are tempted to continue playing or lose everything whereas in Lotto you can allocate your bets.
Gamblers will bet on the games they like. I have never seen anyone who bet against their willing on any other game. And those who the owner of the gambling platform will usually win. I don't think they have a problem with a gambler criticising. In gambling, one will win, the other will lose, and so the gambling will continue. Moreover, it is natural that different gamblers will have different opinions.

This the the most stupid thing I've ever heard today, they despise him for what? Is the the one controlling the chicken? People can be mean at times, what's this? The fate of who wins and who lose depend on the performance of those chickens, one have to lose and one have to win.

The problem isn't the game owner but that of the people who are coming to risk all they have on the game, they are irresponsible that's why their family are hating the game owner which is wrong, they should hate their own brothers and fathers for throwing money away this so easily.
I would agree with you that the gambling is especially in the cockpit as the gambling is handled by the roosters not controlled by humans. Luck is the key point there. So the amount of money placed in that bet is entirely up to the gambler himself. The more money you bet in gambling, the higher the risk. According to the ability, the one who takes more risk will have more chance of profit or loss. Blaming the owner for this is completely stupidity. Only those who do not have the slightest knowledge will do such things.

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