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I personally do not join or engage during wakes but we have the common tradition and I think we are in the same country. Fees or tongs is collected from gambling are donated to the bereaved family financially to help cover funeral expenses or support them. Regardless of the legality, it's still important to gamble responsibly, set budget andavoid excessive gambling
In my country there is no tradition like this because gambling is prohibited in Indonesia. But when you know that gambling after waking up has become a tradition in some countries, it becomes a unique tradition, even if it is not just about gambling, but gathering at the same table with family. Especially to make donations to families who are grieving financially from the results of gambling done after waking up. I was surprised by this kind of tradition because it never existed in my country. And regarding doing gambling with full responsibility, it must be done, this is to avoid the negative effects that will be caused.
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Sometimes, gambling at wakes actually helps out the family financially, like a small safety net during a tough time. Plus, it can bring folks together, like a shared activity that helps them connect and maybe even forget the sadness for a bit. It's like a cultural thing, you know, traditions can be weird like that sometimes.
Of course, there's a flip side. Some folks see it as disrespectful to the deceased or even a way to exploit people who might be struggling with gambling. And hey, different cultures have different views on gambling altogether, so it can be a moral minefield.
So, what's the verdict? It's not a clear-cut good or bad. It's more like a complex situation where you gotta consider different perspectives and find a way to make it work, if at all. Maybe the family agrees to it, everyone plays responsibly, and it becomes a way to both mourn and support each other. But hey, if it feels off, or someone's not comfortable, then maybe it's best to skip the poker chips during the wake.
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I don't do the practice when I wake up, and I tend to avoid it. For me, it's unusual, maybe because we have different countries and traditions, and maybe if I were in your country, I would definitely like to do it.
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I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.
Well that's my first time hearing about such thing in the world of gambling. I'm still doing my research about it and from the little I could gather, I really haven't heard of it in my country. If it were that popular, maybe it would be common amongst people in my country. Though it sounds like a nice Initiative to help the bereaved and provide them with little you can through gambling. But not all countries will accept such practice. If an individual wishes to give money out to the bereaved then he should do it willingly and not through gambling. This tradition has long been held here in our country the Philippines, there is a crackdown on illegal gambling by the police authorities here in our country, but since it is a tradition, the authorities eventually allow it provided that they only allocate one table for their gambling activity. It is part of the Filipino tradition, specially for Roman Catholic believers that when someone dies, it is customary to hold a wake. Practitioners of some religions, such as Islam, bury their dead immediately within 24 hours. Wakes usually last several days, especially when the family is waiting for the arrival of close relatives. In the provinces, they usually last nine days, which is the length of time for the novena (prayer) to conclude, because of financial considerations. This tradition is very popular in the provinces because our provinces are divided by seas it will take days before the arrival of the family to pay their last respect to their departed relatives, it's a past time to keep vigil and to strengthen the ties between relatives who just met during the wake, part of the proceeds will be given to the family as a form of donation.
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What I think is that each country has its culture and that is something that is respected, in my country the culture is different, if there is a wake, what they do is pray and pray so that the soul of the dead can rest in peace and managed to cleanse oneself well of the sins that the person committed, it is more than all a religious custom, and it is something that is very delicate, I know that in countries like Mexico there is the day of the dead where that is a holiday, But given the situation that is now so difficult and things are so expensive, it is not a bad idea to do something like this to help raise funds for the family. I say this from my own experience, because some time ago my grandfather died and the Funeral expenses were very high, they paid it to his son and I think one of them still owes money.
What surprises me is that they treat a vloroio as almost a celebration, it is difficult to do something like that when there is the pain of a loved one, but it is a matter of seeing things differently, maybe it is better to cope with things like this in the middle of pain.
But part of death is part of life too, we don't know what lies beyond or what will happen to us, so for those who are left, what do they have to bear with the expenses and thus be able to get ahead , but it is a very tradition different, it is very interesting.
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Gambling activity during a wake also serves as a way to provide the family with some financial assistance regardless if the family doesn't ask for it. Yes, these people can just give money to the family through donations without doing gambling but when there's an active gambling activity in a wake, it likely can invite other random people to be involved.
More people doing gambling = more chances of money flow for the family
These "other people" who were being lured into gambling at that wake don't even know who's the one being at the wake. They are just there to gamble.
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Do you have a similar practice in your country and is this legal in your country?
I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.
Wow. This is a pretty interesting practice. I haven't heard of it before. If it is comfortable with you, what country is it. I would like to know more about it. In my country, wake are always quite solemn depending on the age of the person who has passed on. What happens there is more of a religious ceremony where there is a priest, a sermon, and singing of hymns. There are no games, just some good music and dance to celebrate the life of the deceased but his depends on the age of the person who passed on.
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OP, you must be from Asia. Gambling is a part of life in Asian countries much more than it is in other parts of the world. We don't have anything like that here in Europe. All we do is stay close with the family, help them by being there, praying, bringing flowers, sometimes sharing a meal. We don't give them money or gamble to raise money. Mourning is associated with respect and having fun playing games is not really the definition of respect. If you did that they'd say that you don't care and choose to have some fun instead. I don't do the practice when I wake up, and I tend to avoid it. For me, it's unusual, maybe because we have different countries and traditions, and maybe if I were in your country, I would definitely like to do it.
It's not about gambling when you wake up ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) A wake is when you mourn after you lose someone close to you. Do you guys even read the post, or just write some random shit based on the way you understand the title? Does your campaign manager really pay you for this pile of crap?
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This is legal in our country provided that you ask permission from authorities, they allow gambling like card games and color games they allocate a fee, or what we call in our country a "tong" for the family of the bereaved so they can cover the expenses of the family during their hard times.
This is exactly the same practice in most of the rural communities in Nigeria.... It nothing really different because I think I've experienced this before; the only difference would be that the tong wasn't organized to support the bereaved family... Different people just pulled up with their stands to organize a make-shift gambling kiosk. I don't do the practice when I wake up, and I tend to avoid it. For me, it's unusual, maybe because we have different countries and traditions, and maybe if I were in your country, I would definitely like to do it.
Seems you don't even understand what OP meant... WTF is when you wake up? Hahahaha Sandra 🧑🦰
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Do you have a similar practice in your country and is this legal in your country?
I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.
Wow. This is a pretty interesting practice. I haven't heard of it before. If it is comfortable with you, what country is it. I would like to know more about it. In my country, wake are always quite solemn depending on the age of the person who has passed on. What happens there is more of a religious ceremony where there is a priest, a sermon, and singing of hymns. There are no games, just some good music and dance to celebrate the life of the deceased but his depends on the age of the person who passed on. Usually it is on Asian countries Ex. Philippines. In the Philippines, gambling isn’t just a past time, but a way to honor the dead. Betting games, mah jong, and card tables are often set up at Filipino wakes, or paglalamay, where the tradition is to keep a 24-hour vigil over the deceased until the burial.Source linkDifferent countries does have that different culture and it is indeed shocking into those who arent aware of this kind of practice but well it do happens.
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This is legal in our country provided that you ask permission from authorities, they allow gambling like card games and color games they allocate a fee, or what we call in our country a "tong" for the family of the bereaved so they can cover the expenses of the family during their hard times. Do you have a similar practice in your country and is this legal in your country?
I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.
We are in the same country and one more information about this, This is legal, however, there are some who abuse and use this tong as their reason to gamble. That's why a lot of people are using this gambling during wake to execute illegal gambling. They set up a fake funeral and play card games, running like a mini-casino where a lot of players are playing different card games at different tables.
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Well basically in some places, it's common to play games during funerals to support the grieving family. People contribute a fee to help cover expenses. Whether it's legal depends on local rules and traditions so it's good to keep things in line with what's accepted in your area. In my country, playing games during wakes and pitching in is a common thing and it's called sugalan. It's like a community way to help out the grieving family with expenses
Rather in some other countries, what is done is to donate to the family or do a contribution to help the family take care of the finance of the burial. Some people buy drinks and other preparatory things, some give cash gift. I have not witnessed gambling at the funeral ground for the sake of generating funds for the bereaved family. Well tradition and culture really differ from region to region.
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They say that the proceeds of the said gambling activity will go towards the family of the dead, so I try and play with other people even though I believe that such a venue is not appropriate for the said activity. I don't overdo it though. I never really stayed there gambling for hours. Perhaps just doing it out of respect to the dead is enough, or just to help them raise money and that's it. It's a weird tradition that legalizes even the illegal forms of gambling during a wake, but if it helps the family then I'm okay with it.
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March 10, 2024, 09:15:14 PM |
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They say that the proceeds of the said gambling activity will go towards the family of the dead, so I try and play with other people even though I believe that such a venue is not appropriate for the said activity. I don't overdo it though. I never really stayed there gambling for hours. Perhaps just doing it out of respect to the dead is enough, or just to help them raise money and that's it. It's a weird tradition that legalizes even the illegal forms of gambling during a wake, but if it helps the family then I'm okay with it.
Although it seems like a good idea to help the family of someone who has passed away by participating in gambling events where the money will be directed towards them, one should always remember that gambling involves a substantial amount of financial risk. Even though you may think it’s an opportunity to contribute something or remember the deceased, the potential negative consequences must not be overlooked. Moreover, when choosing a place or an event that is not appropriate for this kind of activity, ethical concerns may also be at stake. Participation in gambling can aid and abet injurious or illicit actions in any unlicensed and improperly selected places. Otherwise, many other means exist through which to support such families without involving gambling as the only viable option, including direct donation or moral and psychological help. While it may be true that you have good intentions, it is equally essential to think about the potential outcome of taking part in gambling activities, and also to try other means of helping bereaved families rather than risking financial or moral jeopardy.
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Wiwo
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March 10, 2024, 09:20:01 PM |
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I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.
Talking about covering of expenses, is it that the wake keeps game or gambling is meant to raise money for the bereaved family to sort their bills or what is it for? This kind of gambling is still new to me and what I know about wake keep and burial is that the family take care of the expenses and the running cost till the days of the burial are over and what support given by friends and well-wishers is not mandatory but an act of benevolence, solidarity and conscience. The overall idea may not be far from that, raising money to support the bereaved family and that is why it close friends that come together to organise such games or events, this is some form of age-mate meeting and even without the games, they will still supply the family of the bereaved in other ways. In this part of the world, that kind of game is not popular but we still have some other activities that are done in the form of such games but not betting anyways, in in form of friends coming together to raise funds to support the bereaved friend and family.
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March 10, 2024, 10:34:24 PM |
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I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.
Talking about covering of expenses, is it that the wake keeps game or gambling is meant to raise money for the bereaved family to sort their bills or what is it for? This kind of gambling is still new to me and what I know about wake keep and burial is that the family take care of the expenses and the running cost till the days of the burial are over and what support given by friends and well-wishers is not mandatory but an act of benevolence, solidarity and conscience. The overall idea may not be far from that, raising money to support the bereaved family and that is why it close friends that come together to organise such games or events, this is some form of age-mate meeting and even without the games, they will still supply the family of the bereaved in other ways. In this part of the world, that kind of game is not popular but we still have some other activities that are done in the form of such games but not betting anyways, in in form of friends coming together to raise funds to support the bereaved friend and family. You're absolutely right,there are some other games that you can use to keep up with friends and not gambling, gambling during wake keeping doesn't make any sense to me either.unlike as you Said that even without the game, that they will still supply the family of the bereaved in other ways, I think you make a good point there. However even the church can support them, that's if the family do go to church, unlike as we do in my church.
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Wiwo
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March 10, 2024, 10:59:08 PM |
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You're absolutely right,there are some other games that you can use to keep up with friends and not gambling, gambling during wake keeping doesn't make any sense to me either.unlike as you Said that even without the game, that they will still supply the family of the bereaved in other ways, I think you make a good point there. However even the church can support them, that's if the family do go to church, unlike as we do in my church.
Wake keeping in some places is a time of morning regardless of the age of the deceased, and for that games which is a fun activities will not be entertained in such a situation and such no one will bring such idea of playing games at all, and that is why, this kind of games are not popular in most of the world, and since gambling is fundamentally for fun and not money generation, so whatever the aim may be either to raise funds to support or go along with a particular situation it doesn't matter it won't be entertained. So for that, there are other ways that they will employ according to the peculiarity of their environment and situations, so for that, I haven't seen such a situation where gambling is organized as a fundraising means since this practice is not available in my country, although gambling is legal though.
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March 10, 2024, 11:11:38 PM |
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They say that the proceeds of the said gambling activity will go towards the family of the dead, so I try and play with other people even though I believe that such a venue is not appropriate for the said activity. I don't overdo it though. I never really stayed there gambling for hours. Perhaps just doing it out of respect to the dead is enough, or just to help them raise money and that's it. It's a weird tradition that legalizes even the illegal forms of gambling during a wake, but if it helps the family then I'm okay with it.
It would be something that will be beneficial indeed and for those people who do tend to do gambling just to have that tong becomes bigger then it wont really be that a huge problem but if you are really that not a gambler then you could just simply just give out money to the said family that had been affected on which it is more viable rather than on making yourself pushed through on playing gambling even if you dont know on how to gamble but if you are someone who do love to enjoy at the same time you are helping the family then it would be your choice.
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March 11, 2024, 08:35:23 AM |
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I don't do the practice when I wake up, and I tend to avoid it. For me, it's unusual, maybe because we have different countries and traditions, and maybe if I were in your country, I would definitely like to do it.
Of course, those are the two main reasons that make it alien to you but if you peradventure visited a place where you were able to witness such, you will most certainly do it to encourage the bereaved, well, at least me. But when you are not in the same country, you may not see such, and even if you are in the same country, the locality/community you are in matters. Just like in my country, the division is many because we have over 170 tribes in just a country. So, what they are doing in the North and East of the country could be so strange to me, but in my place, we do not have any unusual practices that can be strange to them. Even in the East and North, many communities still have their strange practices that their fellow Easterners would not just know of, that's how deep it is. The world is large, and we should expect strange traditions like this when we are far from home. Immediately I first saw this post last month, I knew it would be done in the Asian part of the world, and when people replied to my first post, they stated that the tradition "Tong" is commonly practised in the Philippines, which made my suspicions right. Strangest practices are happening in the Asian part of the world, so brace yourself when you visit such a place.
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March 11, 2024, 09:26:59 AM |
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This is legal in our country provided that you ask permission from authorities, they allow gambling like card games and color games they allocate a fee, or what we call in our country a "tong" for the family of the bereaved so they can cover the expenses of the family during their hard times. Do you have a similar practice in your country and is this legal in your country?
I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.
This one is very familiar to me because here in my country, especially in province. when there's a burial, automatically there is also a place called "Saklaan", wherein there is a tent area outside the house and all the gamblers are stationed there, people often do this to help the financial needs of the families of the deceased and so that the family can use something for the the deceased burial. This has become a tradition in our country, especially when the deceased person is at home and it is legal that's why many people come to gamble, even young people play there and they really make the most of the day when there is something like this.
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