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May 09, 2024, 03:09:46 AM
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You are right, no one should lend money to a gambler for gambling. If you lend them money you might make their situation even more miserable. There is a good possibility for them to lose the money and then being in debt to seek another person they could lend money from and gamble again struggling to win and return the debt to you. It could turn into a vicious circle for them. No one wants that.
Sadly, a lot of loan shark target gamblers specifically for giving a loan since they always ask for collateral that is over value to the loan amount so that they will always at profit regardless if the gambler pay the loan amount or not.

I witness a lot of this kind of loan shark on physical casino that offering loans on loser gambler. You’re right that loan shouldn’t be offered to gamblers since it will just fuel an addiction to play more due to the extra credit that they can get.
Loan sharks can't force someone to take loans from them, so it is the people who are taking those loans who are getting themselves in trouble because the decision is our own at the end of the day. If I'm out of money, it is my responsibility to see what I can do about this matter if I know that I can't return the loan on time and I will lose whatever I might keep as collateral, I shouldn't take the loan, if I take it regardless of that, it is my mistake and no one else to be blamed for that.

People providing loan services are doing their business, they give others money they have and take profit from that just like how a person would run a business in any other sector using their money, they aren't doing anything wrong in my opinion, and it's our choice to be responsible or not.
Rightly said it's not bad there are many people who lend money. It's their new business and the profit they get from it is their way of earning. But I don't think anyone should lend money especially for gambling. If he loses he will not be able to pay back the money easily and thus he will gradually get into debt which will fill his whole life with problems and they will involve themselves in gambling addiction to the point of neglecting other important responsibilities of life.
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May 09, 2024, 05:13:24 AM
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You're absolutely right that one should avoid getting himself under the influence of any substance while gambling.
Gambling is something that should be done with a clear mind, in order to allow calculate the risks properly before making your stakes, which isn't mostly possible when you're intoxicated by an alcohol.
Well of course the only exception is if it's consume moderately as you've said, but one thing we must consider is that gambling can easily influence ones current emotions and actions in some way, whether negatively or positively so it's better to completely stay of substances while in the casino.
Gambling not under the influence of alcohol will make us focus more on the bets we play to be able to win from the bets we play. When someone bets and loses of course they will become emotional and if they are under the influence of alcohol it is likely they will riot. and this will certainly be very detrimental to themselves.
We've heard and witnessed stories that serves cautionary tales about gamblers who have lost so much because of gambling under the influence or alcohol or drug.
Gambling should be done with a clear and level head because it requires one to think and evaluate certain factors when you play, as well as to always keep your emotions in check to avoid overspending and impulsive decisions.
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May 09, 2024, 09:48:41 AM
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~ People providing loan services are doing their business, they give others money they have and take profit from that just like how a person would run a business in any other sector using their money, they aren't doing anything wrong in my opinion, and it's our choice to be responsible or not.

They are just doing their business, I agree, and to not make villains out of them we just shouldn't borrow money from them for gambling. That's when we are not to gamble: when we have no spare money. If we think we can borrow an amount and then after winning return the loan, we are creating a situation were potentially we'll hate the loaners, while, indeed, they are doing nothing wrong.

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May 19, 2024, 05:09:08 PM
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We've heard and witnessed stories that serves cautionary tales about gamblers who have lost so much because of gambling under the influence or alcohol or drug.
Gambling should be done with a clear and level head because it requires one to think and evaluate certain factors when you play, as well as to always keep your emotions in check to avoid overspending and impulsive decisions.
Gamblers should do well to remember that losing control over their emotions could happen to them even when they are completely lucid, but if they were to take something that lowered their inhibitions, as it is the case of alcohol, then it becomes way easier for them to make a mistake that could lead them to lose an amount of money so big that it could take them years to recover, and when you think about it, it is not worth it to suffer so much just because a gambler was unable to think clearly for a few hours.
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May 19, 2024, 05:25:50 PM
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~ People providing loan services are doing their business, they give others money they have and take profit from that just like how a person would run a business in any other sector using their money, they aren't doing anything wrong in my opinion, and it's our choice to be responsible or not.

They are just doing their business, I agree, and to not make villains out of them we just shouldn't borrow money from them for gambling. That's when we are not to gamble: when we have no spare money. If we think we can borrow an amount and then after winning return the loan, we are creating a situation were potentially we'll hate the loaners, while, indeed, they are doing nothing wrong.
Yes, actually there's nothing wrong with loan services like that, but most of them usually ask for quite a lot of interest so that gamblers find it difficult to pay the debt and interest, so don't ever try to gamble with the money from the loan, it won't be right because whatever it is, it's gambling with money. Loans will bring new problems which may just be frustrating, often gamblers blame those who provide loans even though they only provide and help other people with loans that can be used to survive, not for gambling.

When we don't have money, it's best not to gamble because forcing it is the same as making us get carried away which ultimately makes us think at a dead end and try to borrow money from loan sharks which will definitely be a big problem when we are in arrears because the interest on the debt will balloon to a large amount, that's why there are so many addicts. gamblers who are trapped in debt and finally get pressured by debt bills which ultimately makes many gamblers end their lives and kill themselves because that way they usually think they will solve the problem even though it doesn't at all, I often encounter cases like that in my country, so it's not strange, that's why My country's government prohibits gambling both offline and online.

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May 19, 2024, 06:43:36 PM
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We've heard and witnessed stories that serves cautionary tales about gamblers who have lost so much because of gambling under the influence or alcohol or drug.
Gambling should be done with a clear and level head because it requires one to think and evaluate certain factors when you play, as well as to always keep your emotions in check to avoid overspending and impulsive decisions.
Gamblers should do well to remember that losing control over their emotions could happen to them even when they are completely lucid, but if they were to take something that lowered their inhibitions, as it is the case of alcohol, then it becomes way easier for them to make a mistake that could lead them to lose an amount of money so big that it could take them years to recover, and when you think about it, it is not worth it to suffer so much just because a gambler was unable to think clearly for a few hours.

However and overall it is always forbidden to gamble while consuming something that has the potential to intoxicate or remove consciousness, such as drinking the alcohol you mentioned or other things like drugs, and I think the reason is clear that gambling is an activity that requires all gamblers to make a decision about how much they want to bet, or about how much risk they are ready to take, and all of these actions really have to be done with full awareness to do a consideration to make a decision.

And as we know how the effects of alcohol or drugs that clearly have great potential to make someone drunk that causes them to lose consciousness, and maybe I would say that gambling while consuming alcohol or drugs the impact is the same as when you gamble based on emotions where it is clear that decision making will not be based on common sense and rational thinking which in the end yes as you say that most likely a gambler will only waste more money without them realizing and regretting when they are sober.

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May 19, 2024, 08:45:57 PM
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One thing that has happened to me lately is that every time I play and I am happy,I mean in a happy mood usually it ends up very badly as being happy keeps you playing and you are not really thinking cold headed and you only realize when you have lost it all so I would suggest anyone to refrain from gambling when you are in a happy mood and only gamble on normal conditions,yesterday I lost it all because I was happy while playing  Grin.

 Cheesy after those losses one mood will surely change to the opposite of happy, and gambling when you are angry or sad is kinda worse. Because when you are angry , expecially when it was triggered by losses from  gambling, after losing alot of cash . I'm literally speaking from experience, like when I was still new in gambling with my childish mindset of hitting the jackpot quick and getting rich pretty fast I normally gamble without any proper planning and anytime I start to lose , I also lose my coolness too , and at that moment I won't be thinking properly or won't be at my right sense all I will be thinking of is how to get all my losses back that same day which we all know that it ain't smart to run after losses. And I've seen the reason why , because you keeping on gambling when yah not in your right sense the chances of you losing all yah funds that instant is pretty high . And that's not something you wanna feel because is better to lose little than to lose it all. .

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June 15, 2024, 01:07:18 AM
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Gambling can be fun and also become a serious problem if not done appropriately. Alot of gambler get themselves into problem because they gamble anyhow and anytime. There are some times you should take a break in gambling so that you won't become an addict or give yourself problem. Time you shouldn't gamble includes:

👉👉when you are in need of money urgently
Some people gamble the most when they are in need of urgent money. They use the little in their account to gamble believe they can double the money in no time through gambling to do what they want to do. This most times go wrong making them to lose the little they should have save for that purpose

👉👉To regain back your loses
Pursuing loses in gambling make you lose more. So it better to have a break when you have lose alot. That period may not be your own lucky time to win. Taking a break can help you to avoid being addicted and also save you from losing more.

👉👉Under pressure or frustration
Gambling under pressure or frustration may make you go beyond your plan. It can also make you to make wrong decision from your bet. So it's better to do away with gambling during this period.

CONCLUSION
Gambling should be fun, it's better to stay away when it has started to become a problem.

Most of what happens is point no. 2. want to restore the capital that has been lost in the gambling. by doing marti or increasing the bet every time lose. but usually instead of winning and returning capital that happens, still lose and the losses are getting bigger.

You are absolutely right, the moment one wants to regain back the money he or she has loss instead of regaining the money you will see yourself losing the more, this has happened to me while I was playing aviator online at first they gave me a welcome bonus and I started feeling like I have arrived not untill I they collected all the money they gave me and started collecting my capital I was so eager to recover and run the more I try to recover the more they are chopping me before I could I realized myself I have spent so much money, I was filled with regrettion and restless. moreover, one can gamble when they need money and one can still gamble when they are under pressure after all gambling is grace, some call it luck

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June 15, 2024, 02:07:21 AM
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          -   As much as possible, let's make gambling a hobby so that you don't become an addict or lead to an addiction to it, because if your reason for gambling is more than entertainment or recreation, it is for sure that you will not be far from becoming an addict eventually.

Because if you just think about having fun while gambling, I'm sure you will be able to become a responsible gambler because you will somehow have control over yourself and also control your emotions, which a gambler often cannot do.

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June 15, 2024, 02:55:09 AM
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If you stay away from gambling addiction it will not cause much harm if someone plays for entertainment then he will have control over himself and never go to bet more after greed. But there are many gamblers who forget this and try to recover the loss. First you have to accept the loss. If you think about covering the loss, you can never get out of this trap. Accept the loss in your heart. Accept it as a mistake in life. Learn from and get back on the right path.

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June 15, 2024, 06:39:03 AM
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          -   As much as possible, let's make gambling a hobby so that you don't become an addict or lead to an addiction to it, because if your reason for gambling is more than entertainment or recreation, it is for sure that you will not be far from becoming an addict eventually.

Because if you just think about having fun while gambling, I'm sure you will be able to become a responsible gambler because you will somehow have control over yourself and also control your emotions, which a gambler often cannot do.

but is it possible for those who are rich and have a lot of money to make gambling their hobby, although in my own opinion it is not natural for them to make gambling a hobby, also because they have a lot of money is not a sign that they can make gambling a hobby, because with money what they have is that they can do other things that are more interesting as a hobby and even have benefits, also if they gamble, even having a lot of money doesn't mean the addiction doesn't exist but the opportunity for addiction is still there And if they can't control themselves. then it's very likely that they could spend a lot of money gambling and lose a lot of money, but when they don't gamble their money will be safe. meaning there are expenses but perhaps not as big as those lost in gambling.

I agree with that. indeed when we gamble just for fun, there is no feeling of wanting to gamble more because we have a good responsibility to gamble wisely without taking big risks, but it is true that self-control in gambling is difficult if you don't have very strict discipline because the temptation and attraction of gambling is so strong that there tend to be people who get trapped even though they have good self-control, this is where we have to be able to force ourselves to do not gamble excessively.

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June 15, 2024, 08:53:51 AM
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Taking a break doesn’t necessary mean quit forever, people do mistake this and they continue gambling regardless. What I understood by taking a break is engaging in different activities like comfort activities trying to relieve yourself a little because sometimes a gambler can over gamble and unknowingly they just gamble and gamble but no result. In times like this taking break is needed as most people will say, I only stop when I want to surpass my gambling budget and this is still right. Secondly, no gambler should gamble when facing different difficulties and frustration, just like a drunkard facing challenges and decide to drink much I believe the person might end up doing something crazy at that state. Gambling can also affect our emotions during this time, all points are valid but, most gamblers see gambling as an occupation and it’s wrong, although every gambler will want to gamble for the gain and nothing else and not everyone will get so lucky gambling frequent.
Taking a break is for calm our minds from thinks about gambling so we can thinks clear about what we have done in gambling and we can decides to continue playing gambling in a few days later. Taking a break is a must for gamblers from gambling so they can see and calculate their money to playing gambling and if they already use too much money, they can stops playing gambling for that day and must leave the casino immediately. We must knows how to treats gambling and not playing gambling too long because that can impact to our minds and we can lose much money. That's why we must limits our gambling activity to prevents the bad things that can happens to us and takes a break is a way to calm down ourselves from playing gambling. We don't wants anything bad happens to us because we playing gambling so we must take care of ourselves.

You said it well: when we gamblers experience bad luck in gambling, you mentioned that this is also one of the good solutions so that the amount we can lose in casino gambling does not increase even more. And this is the first to stop or take a break for awhile.

Because if we continue, the money we bet will only be wasted because we will lose, and we will only lose for sure in the end. Just come back another day; we know if, after a few days, we come back, we will be lucky, right?

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June 15, 2024, 09:27:03 AM
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~ People providing loan services are doing their business, they give others money they have and take profit from that just like how a person would run a business in any other sector using their money, they aren't doing anything wrong in my opinion, and it's our choice to be responsible or not.

They are just doing their business, I agree, and to not make villains out of them we just shouldn't borrow money from them for gambling. That's when we are not to gamble: when we have no spare money. If we think we can borrow an amount and then after winning return the loan, we are creating a situation were potentially we'll hate the loaners, while, indeed, they are doing nothing wrong.
Whenever someone comes to take a loan it is required that he state the intention of the loan by filling it in the form giving to him. If  i am someone who gives out loan and i read where someone wants a loan for the purpose of gambling then i will surely decline the loan request because i wont give out loan to a gambler.

Unless the person hid his intention by writing a different purpose on the form. It pains me to see people take loan for a different purpose and then wish to gamble with it first to see if they can get profit to pay the loan with ease.

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June 15, 2024, 09:35:49 AM
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          -   As much as possible, let's make gambling a hobby so that you don't become an addict or lead to an addiction to it, because if your reason for gambling is more than entertainment or recreation, it is for sure that you will not be far from becoming an addict eventually.

Because if you just think about having fun while gambling, I'm sure you will be able to become a responsible gambler because you will somehow have control over yourself and also control your emotions, which a gambler often cannot do.

but is it possible for those who are rich and have a lot of money to make gambling their hobby, although in my own opinion it is not natural for them to make gambling a hobby, also because they have a lot of money is not a sign that they can make gambling a hobby, because with money what they have is that they can do other things that are more interesting as a hobby and even have benefits, also if they gamble, even having a lot of money doesn't mean the addiction doesn't exist but the opportunity for addiction is still there And if they can't control themselves. then it's very likely that they could spend a lot of money gambling and lose a lot of money, but when they don't gamble their money will be safe. meaning there are expenses but perhaps not as big as those lost in gambling.

I agree with that. indeed when we gamble just for fun, there is no feeling of wanting to gamble more because we have a good responsibility to gamble wisely without taking big risks, but it is true that self-control in gambling is difficult if you don't have very strict discipline because the temptation and attraction of gambling is so strong that there tend to be people who get trapped even though they have good self-control, this is where we have to be able to force ourselves to do not gamble excessively.
I went through various stages of my behavior and emotions while going through the gambling journey. At the very beginning, when I was inexperienced and naive, I accepted losses with great difficulty and experienced uncontrollable emotions. Of course, I understand that it is better for such players not to play, but I gained invaluable experience that cannot be obtained in any other way. And so time passed and I didn’t lose very much, but I gained experience in the game. Now, many years later, it’s hard for me to remember how I behaved then and my great thirst for money. I can now evaluate myself and say that at that moment I could have lost all my money because of thirst, today I will never do that because my experience allows me to have absolutely no emotions for the game. I am now more interested in the process itself than in the money I can win.

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June 15, 2024, 10:17:55 AM
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~ People providing loan services are doing their business, they give others money they have and take profit from that just like how a person would run a business in any other sector using their money, they aren't doing anything wrong in my opinion, and it's our choice to be responsible or not.

They are just doing their business, I agree, and to not make villains out of them we just shouldn't borrow money from them for gambling. That's when we are not to gamble: when we have no spare money. If we think we can borrow an amount and then after winning return the loan, we are creating a situation were potentially we'll hate the loaners, while, indeed, they are doing nothing wrong.
Whenever someone comes to take a loan it is required that he state the intention of the loan by filling it in the form giving to him. If  i am someone who gives out loan and i read where someone wants a loan for the purpose of gambling then i will surely decline the loan request because i wont give out loan to a gambler.

Unless the person hid his intention by writing a different purpose on the form. It pains me to see people take loan for a different purpose and then wish to gamble with it first to see if they can get profit to pay the loan with ease.

Yes the truth remain weather the borrower hidden it's intentions or not if the lender equate the collateral to be some equivalent it will shake the borrower possibly it's more advisable to even make the collateral more to the amount the borrower is lending to enable him pay back because with such the intensions of hidden identity will be reduced and the need to pay back and retrieve what has be deposited as collateral will be there if it's very important to the borrower.

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June 15, 2024, 12:22:31 PM
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You said it well: when we gamblers experience bad luck in gambling, you mentioned that this is also one of the good solutions so that the amount we can lose in casino gambling does not increase even more. And this is the first to stop or take a break for awhile.

Because if we continue, the money we bet will only be wasted because we will lose, and we will only lose for sure in the end. Just come back another day; we know if, after a few days, we come back, we will be lucky, right?
Take a break after losing some money is the best thing for me so I can suggest to other people to stops their gambling activity after lose. That will helps us to calm down our emotion and reduce the tension so we can back to the games without emotion and maybe our luck will comes after that. Take a break also helps us to saves our money not to lose on that games so we can use it for the other days.

If we continue playing gambling, we still don't knows when we can wins or gets more losses. We can comes back to the casino in the other days and maybe we can gets our luck and wins some money. But we don't have to expects to wins the games because gambling is unpredictable and we can't wins many times from gambling except we have our luck. We should use gambling a way to have fun.

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June 15, 2024, 02:42:17 PM
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One thing that has happened to me lately is that every time I play and I am happy,I mean in a happy mood usually it ends up very badly as being happy keeps you playing and you are not really thinking cold headed and you only realize when you have lost it all so I would suggest anyone to refrain from gambling when you are in a happy mood and only gamble on normal conditions,yesterday I lost it all because I was happy while playing  Grin.
Because when you gamble you do not see the risks that will occur in the future, and gamble by following the flow of gambling that you really want, betting continuously until you do not realize that you are stuck in the rhythm of gambling itself, there are two factors that can occur because of this problem.
You are chasing your initial losses and want the winnings to cover the previous losses.
The mood as you mentioned allows such things to happen in gambling and you only realize it at the end of the session after everything is lost.
The bottom line is that we should refrain from getting caught up in gambling under normal conditions and being responsible is a must-have for a gambler.
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June 15, 2024, 03:38:37 PM
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You said it well: when we gamblers experience bad luck in gambling, you mentioned that this is also one of the good solutions so that the amount we can lose in casino gambling does not increase even more. And this is the first to stop or take a break for awhile.

Because if we continue, the money we bet will only be wasted because we will lose, and we will only lose for sure in the end. Just come back another day; we know if, after a few days, we come back, we will be lucky, right?
Take a break after losing some money is the best thing for me so I can suggest to other people to stops their gambling activity after lose. That will helps us to calm down our emotion and reduce the tension so we can back to the games without emotion and maybe our luck will comes after that. Take a break also helps us to saves our money not to lose on that games so we can use it for the other days.

If we continue playing gambling, we still don't knows when we can wins or gets more losses. We can comes back to the casino in the other days and maybe we can gets our luck and wins some money. But we don't have to expects to wins the games because gambling is unpredictable and we can't wins many times from gambling except we have our luck. We should use gambling a way to have fun.


You are right, it refreshing for Gamblers. Taking a break helps in several ways of which you have listed some, additionally resting gives Gamblers more time to be in a balance state of mind, evaluating our gambling habits and her effects, what step we need to take to shade us more. If Gamblers do this, I believe they would not be caught unaware while trying to chase losses and being emotional because of losses.
Gamblers need to accept responsibilities and understand that gambling is not designed for us to win, so it becomes a fight of which if we loss much, we need rest to have more energy to continue as simple as this.
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June 15, 2024, 03:48:23 PM
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If you stay away from gambling addiction it will not cause much harm if someone plays for entertainment then he will have control over himself and never go to bet more after greed. But there are many gamblers who forget this and try to recover the loss. First you have to accept the loss. If you think about covering the loss, you can never get out of this trap. Accept the loss in your heart. Accept it as a mistake in life. Learn from and get back on the right path.
The point is that every gambler must have self-awareness that gambling does not always mean winning but will also experience defeat too, every gambler should understand and be aware of this, that in gambling there are risks that must be borne, if every gambler has awareness about that, I I'm sure they won't complain about their losses, let alone try to catch up and recover from the losses they experienced, don't get addicted to gambling because it is a disease that is difficult to cure and all gamblers know that.

There is no need to worry about losing from gambling, gamble with money that is ready to be lost so that it doesn't become a burden, let alone consider it a loss, the point is to think that gambling is just for fun, nothing more than that, even when we don't gamble, we can still divert. thoughts and desires of gambling to other hobbies because there are still many hobbies that we can pursue besides gambling so that we don't always think about gambling, everyone can gamble at any time as long as it can provide entertainment at any time and can be played with full awareness.

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June 15, 2024, 03:52:41 PM
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Gambling have thought me a lot of lessons and from those lessons I have build long term experience and one of the things I most not do is to gamble when I am not in the right frame of mind, because when you are under any form of pressure, you can easily get carried away into believing that you may possibly make off some money from gambling by risking more that you can afford, this is what have lead many gamblers into bad situations such as addictions and debts on the long run.


Gambling should be based on fun and nothing more because regardless of how much desire we have, if that day is not our lucky day, you will still lose, which is why we advice that gamble with only an amount that you can afford to lose and be comfortable with.

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