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August 27, 2024, 03:30:47 PM
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It is true that gambling was created for entertainment purposes but I think that is no longer true in today's age. Those who gamble have only one goal, which is to make money from their luck, but many people want to hide it and say that they gamble just for fun. Entertainment is when we find joy in it, find comfort, while most gambling is losing money and making us more stressed. How can gambling be said to be a form of entertainment?

For me, the only way to avoid losing control when gambling is to plan from the beginning and only deposit money that we can afford to lose. Once we lose all or win the amount we want, we have to stop. Planning and sticking to the plan is what we should focus on when gambling.
They should realizes and not doing that if they don't want to lose much money because gambling is not for making money. They can also become addicted to gambling if they can not hold themselves from too often playing gambling because many examples that we can see. Gambling is for entertainment and not for make money so we don't have to try to follow other people. We have other things to do in our spare time so we don't have to playing gambling too often so we can prevent the big lose or other problem that can occurs.

When we are not gambling, we better us that to do something else that can benefit us. We can search for more creative idea to fills our spare time so we don't think about gambling and we can prevent the will to playing gambling.
Here you have listed two completely different approaches to gambling. I think that both of them have the right to exist and the attitude to gambling as a way of earning money and as entertainment in different communities of people and quite strongly depend on the country where the player lives, on local traditions or common life practices of people. And a very significant factor, of course, is the general standard of living of people in this country. If the standard of living is high, then most players regard gambling as entertainment and, accordingly, can play and lose some hectic amounts of money without problems. Things are completely different in countries with a low standard of living, where the population has money only for housing and kicking. Of course, they do to get rich, and the tool for this, as they think, is only one - a big win in gambling. But since this almost never happens and remains an unrealizable dream, in such communities there are often tragic events among players who have lost everything. All these are tragedies not only for them, but also for their families and their children.

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August 27, 2024, 03:52:19 PM
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apart from what OP said I think we should not gamble when we are in an unclear state such as when we are feeling stressed because of the burden that occurs at work or others, because seeing gambling is a risky game then when we do it with our unstable state of mind it could be that the defeat that is certain to occur in gambling will only add to the problem by making us upset and of course it will provide pressure that can make us even worse, maybe excessive stress. Gambling should be done for fun, understand that losing money is something that is certain to happen, therefore, no matter what defeat occurs, try not to be an additional thought, because when we lose and think too much about it, what will happen is probably like what OP said, namely "getting back your defeat" this is just a path to destruction.

Your point is correct. But unfortunately, not all gamblers strictly adhere to such rules. The fact is that many of them start gambling sober, but when they lose, they lose control of themselves.
After that, such problem gamblers drink alcohol in the hope that they will feel better about the loss. And what's funny is that after that they go to the casino again, and lose even more.

You are right, however, it's our responsibility to not to fall to such temptations, and no one else can help us with that, basically. We are on our own with the beast. And we should overcome it if we want our well-being to stay in good shape.
Gambling responsibly is such a hard task to do. When you are in the middle of a emotional wave where you are stressed and feeling like you are being cheated by the gambling service, that's where it could all go wrong.
I played a lot of slot games back in the days and I can say I have been in that position many times which is why I stopped playing those games now and focused on sports betting instead.
It's a wild swing of emotions and mostly negative, it's not healthy for both our body and mind and I felt a lot of sickness when that happened to me.
We must find something where we sincerely enjoy it, not be stressed out because gambling is suppose to be fun.
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August 27, 2024, 04:06:02 PM
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apart from what OP said I think we should not gamble when we are in an unclear state such as when we are feeling stressed because of the burden that occurs at work or others, because seeing gambling is a risky game then when we do it with our unstable state of mind it could be that the defeat that is certain to occur in gambling will only add to the problem by making us upset and of course it will provide pressure that can make us even worse, maybe excessive stress. Gambling should be done for fun, understand that losing money is something that is certain to happen, therefore, no matter what defeat occurs, try not to be an additional thought, because when we lose and think too much about it, what will happen is probably like what OP said, namely "getting back your defeat" this is just a path to destruction.
Your point is correct. But unfortunately, not all gamblers strictly adhere to such rules. The fact is that many of them start gambling sober, but when they lose, they lose control of themselves.
After that, such problem gamblers drink alcohol in the hope that they will feel better about the loss. And what's funny is that after that they go to the casino again, and lose even more.

The characteristic of a problem gambler is gambling beyond his financial capabilities or gambling beyond normal limits. They try and keep trying to win the bet, while they don't have time to think about what the next condition will be after they lose. Gambling that has been carried out beyond reasonable limits is never good, of course because of the impact on oneself and also financially.

There are several stages of addiction before a gambler is considered a problem gambler, but before that actually happens, the gambler should set boundaries and change his mindset towards gambling. Gambling is not a place to make money consistently, but gambling is a place that might be entertainment for those who are tired of their work.
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August 27, 2024, 04:58:20 PM
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Gambling to have fun is never forgotten by the many. But it just so happen that when we're having fun that much, we're forgetting that there should be a limit to it. And when we hit those limits, we're removing it because of the entertaining part that it has given to us. So, we're willing to break our own rules for that and even so, there's no way to change our minds with that knowing that problems will occur when we're going to continue because the reason changes from having fun, to getting money.

You are exactly right and you are perfect that at a time of getting more funds, the user becomes addicted and forgets that it is only for fun. As a result, the user loses control of the addict's loss/win at that time, and the gambler who won the fund finally becomes the winner. When I make loses which I cant afford I'll stop gambling and/or when I win a lot of funds I will stop gambling.

But the most important thing is to gamble when the mood is good because if not, then you may experience frustration or stress because the results obtained are not as planned. Therefore, maybe having a target and or limit is a good plan but even so, there is no guarantee for us to obey the rules that have been made by ourselves because we do not have good discipline either. Because after all, discipline is at least a basic factor that must be owned because by having good discipline then we will still be fine even though we gamble in any situation.

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August 27, 2024, 05:49:17 PM
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When we are not gambling, we better us that to do something else that can benefit us. We can search for more creative idea to fills our spare time so we don't think about gambling and we can prevent the will to playing gambling.
And that can be very productive, I always recommend that anything be done with sports, but a sport that tires us out, like playing soccer, swimming, cycling, boxing, something like that, even for people who don't practice any sport I recommend walking, and if you can walk in green areas , mountains where you can breathe fresh, pure air, all the better, because that will give you oxygenation, relaxation and many things will be present, the greatest of all would be to arrive home very tired and take a good shower and go to sleep, that would be a great alternative.

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You are exactly right and you are perfect that at a time of getting more funds, the user becomes addicted and forgets that it is only for fun. As a result, the user loses control of the addict's loss/win at that time, and the gambler who won the fund finally becomes the winner. When I make loses which I cant afford I'll stop gambling and/or when I win a lot of funds I will stop gambling.

But the most important thing is to gamble when the mood is good because if not, then you may experience frustration or stress because the results obtained are not as planned. Therefore, maybe having a target and or limit is a good plan but even so, there is no guarantee for us to obey the rules that have been made by ourselves because we do not have good discipline either. Because after all, discipline is at least a basic factor that must be owned because by having good discipline then we will still be fine even though we gamble in any situation.

Yes, feelings or moods can really affect every action and decision that we will take in any case, especially if we talk in the context of betting where every gambler will be faced with risks when they start the game, and when you force yourself to keep betting when you are in an unstable mood then it is clear that there is a big possibility for you to do various actions that tend to be aggressive.

So I think it's clear that that's the reason why it's better to avoid or cancel the desire to gamble when you are in a bad mood that may be caused by something else in your life, and I think it's also quite clear that when you bet in a good mood then it will be quite easy for you to implement all the plans that lead to prevention that you have made before such as limits or self-control.

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August 27, 2024, 07:58:59 PM
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I am not a regular gambler and sometimes when I need money I sometimes bet on MCW with cigarette money but most of the time I lose and sometimes if I get some profit then that profit money is managed to buy cigarettes for the next few days. But I never participate in gambling unless absolutely necessary.  Especially sometimes if can gain something from the forum then sometimes gambling bet otherwise I don't gamble.

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August 27, 2024, 08:19:58 PM
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Gambling to have fun is never forgotten by the many. But it just so happen that when we're having fun that much, we're forgetting that there should be a limit to it. And when we hit those limits, we're removing it because of the entertaining part that it has given to us. So, we're willing to break our own rules for that and even so, there's no way to change our minds with that knowing that problems will occur when we're going to continue because the reason changes from having fun, to getting money.

You are exactly right and you are perfect that at a time of getting more funds, the user becomes addicted and forgets that it is only for fun. As a result, the user loses control of the addict's loss/win at that time, and the gambler who won the fund finally becomes the winner. When I make loses which I cant afford I'll stop gambling and/or when I win a lot of funds I will stop gambling.

But the most important thing is to gamble when the mood is good because if not, then you may experience frustration or stress because the results obtained are not as planned. Therefore, maybe having a target and or limit is a good plan but even so, there is no guarantee for us to obey the rules that have been made by ourselves because we do not have good discipline either. Because after all, discipline is at least a basic factor that must be owned because by having good discipline then we will still be fine even though we gamble in any situation.
Gambling should really be that for fun and if you are someone whose really not that good when it comes into this aspect then it would really be just that making yourself that being impulsive just because
you are treating up gambling on the other way around rather than on making yourself get entertained. The main issue on here is that when greed kicks in, then it would really be that hard to resist on.
Gambling is really just that for entertainment and it would really be that understandable that you should really be that responsible on the actions you are taking. On the time that you wont be playing gambling
just for some  reason then you should mean it because if you do find yourself having that becomes addicted then it would really be so hard for you to make such action.
Control would really be always that important when it comes into this aspect because if you cant be able to make yourself having that stop then this come becomes an issue.

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Your point is correct. But unfortunately, not all gamblers strictly adhere to such rules. The fact is that many of them start gambling sober, but when they lose, they lose control of themselves.
After that, such problem gamblers drink alcohol in the hope that they will feel better about the loss. And what's funny is that after that they go to the casino again, and lose even more.
These are those gamblers who have addiction I don't wanna mean that all gambler who did this are addicted gamblers but these happened are seen by mostly on the addicted gambler who took gambling as not as the entertainment purpose they making it a earning source where they can make money and in this time they lose their control when they face losses and chase the losses to make profit or they make more wager to win more bigger amount.
I think these activities are controlled by the gambler if they took gambling as an entertainment purpose and do the responsible gambling.

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August 27, 2024, 09:36:14 PM
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Your point is correct. But unfortunately, not all gamblers strictly adhere to such rules. The fact is that many of them start gambling sober, but when they lose, they lose control of themselves.
After that, such problem gamblers drink alcohol in the hope that they will feel better about the loss. And what's funny is that after that they go to the casino again, and lose even more.

Addiction does not end with one thing therefore it is better you avoid getting addicted then trying to solve your problem after you have already become an addict. Gambling addiction can make you to become a drug addict, smoker or drunker because you will always find things to use in consoling yourself when you have lost from gambling and these things are what you will find yourself doing and causing more harm to yourself. You should not kill yourself that you are going to make profits from gambling. If it is not working for you, do not force it or you will become broke. When you are not in a good mood, you do not have to gamble and when you are sober too, you should not be gambling, drunkers do not think straight but think abnormal because the alcohol has toxic influence on them.

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August 28, 2024, 07:15:10 AM
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Here you have listed two completely different approaches to gambling. I think that both of them have the right to exist and the attitude to gambling as a way of earning money and as entertainment in different communities of people and quite strongly depend on the country where the player lives, on local traditions or common life practices of people. And a very significant factor, of course, is the general standard of living of people in this country. If the standard of living is high, then most players regard gambling as entertainment and, accordingly, can play and lose some hectic amounts of money without problems. Things are completely different in countries with a low standard of living, where the population has money only for housing and kicking. Of course, they do to get rich, and the tool for this, as they think, is only one - a big win in gambling. But since this almost never happens and remains an unrealizable dream, in such communities there are often tragic events among players who have lost everything. All these are tragedies not only for them, but also for their families and their children.
They should realizes that they can playing gambling in their spare time but they also have the other option to playing gambling so they will see what is the risks of that two things. If they don't like to lose their money, they don't have to playing gambling and search for the other activities that can also gives them fun and excitement. That will be better for them than playing gambling because they can lose their money although they have a chance to make money but not the high chance. So they must realizes which activities that can gives them fun and if they really want to playing gambling, they must not have a reason to make money from gambling because that will be difficult for them. Those people must realizes that become rich from gambling is not easy even if they use more and more money to playing gambling because gambling is not design to give much money unless that people have their luck to win much money.

And that can be very productive, I always recommend that anything be done with sports, but a sport that tires us out, like playing soccer, swimming, cycling, boxing, something like that, even for people who don't practice any sport I recommend walking, and if you can walk in green areas , mountains where you can breathe fresh, pure air, all the better, because that will give you oxygenation, relaxation and many things will be present, the greatest of all would be to arrive home very tired and take a good shower and go to sleep, that would be a great alternative.
Yes, that will give us another experience from doing other activities. If you do sports, you will have a better health because you moves your body and minds and that will prevents you from thinking about gambling. Using many activities to avoids the will to playing gambling is necessary so we can distract that and we can do other activities in our spare time. That will also help us to stay away from the gambling addiction that can comes anytime so we will not always playing gambling when we want to relax our body and minds. Playing gambling is just for relaxation and not for make money so we understand that we can do other things that will not make us lose money and waste it in gambling. It needs practice but that is worth to do especially if we want to stay away the gambling addiction.

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August 28, 2024, 07:18:11 AM
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apart from what OP said I think we should not gamble when we are in an unclear state such as when we are feeling stressed because of the burden that occurs at work or others, because seeing gambling is a risky game then when we do it with our unstable state of mind it could be that the defeat that is certain to occur in gambling will only add to the problem by making us upset and of course it will provide pressure that can make us even worse, maybe excessive stress. Gambling should be done for fun, understand that losing money is something that is certain to happen, therefore, no matter what defeat occurs, try not to be an additional thought, because when we lose and think too much about it, what will happen is probably like what OP said, namely "getting back your defeat" this is just a path to destruction.

Your point is correct. But unfortunately, not all gamblers strictly adhere to such rules. The fact is that many of them start gambling sober, but when they lose, they lose control of themselves.
After that, such problem gamblers drink alcohol in the hope that they will feel better about the loss. And what's funny is that after that they go to the casino again, and lose even more.

You are right, however, it's our responsibility to not to fall to such temptations, and no one else can help us with that, basically. We are on our own with the beast. And we should overcome it if we want our well-being to stay in good shape.
Gambling responsibly is such a hard task to do. When you are in the middle of a emotional wave where you are stressed and feeling like you are being cheated by the gambling service, that's where it could all go wrong.
I played a lot of slot games back in the days and I can say I have been in that position many times which is why I stopped playing those games now and focused on sports betting instead.
It's a wild swing of emotions and mostly negative, it's not healthy for both our body and mind and I felt a lot of sickness when that happened to me.
We must find something where we sincerely enjoy it, not be stressed out because gambling is suppose to be fun.

Totally valid. I hope you will find more joy and fun on your new road, so to speak. We should all strive to do what makes us happy with our well-being preserved.

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August 28, 2024, 07:21:03 AM
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apart from what OP said I think we should not gamble when we are in an unclear state such as when we are feeling stressed because of the burden that occurs at work or others, because seeing gambling is a risky game then when we do it with our unstable state of mind it could be that the defeat that is certain to occur in gambling will only add to the problem by making us upset and of course it will provide pressure that can make us even worse, maybe excessive stress. Gambling should be done for fun, understand that losing money is something that is certain to happen, therefore, no matter what defeat occurs, try not to be an additional thought, because when we lose and think too much about it, what will happen is probably like what OP said, namely "getting back your defeat" this is just a path to destruction.

Yes, sometimes we gamble because we are stressed out, however, I found out that it very wrong as your mindset is very clouded and you are just playing because of your emotions and most likely you are going to lose a lot of money.

Right now, I'm not gambling for two days, after playing last Sunday and lost a good amount of money because I'm stressed. So I try to calm myself out every day and not to have gambling in my mind. And so far I have been successful and hopefully I can maintain this mindset. And thanks to this community, most of the time I will read and stay in the gambling board to remind myself not to fall and being addicted.
The purpose of gambling is for entertainment, and this is the goal that all gamblers should have. for those who are not in a good state of mind, it is better for them not to gamble, because defeat can be something that makes them emotional or others instead of wanting to get entertainment but instead becoming emotional because of the disappointing results, when the situation is not good, it is advisable to find something else to have fun with minimal risk.

that's good my friend, you have to be able to maintain it, but once in a while when you want to gamble it's not wrong to follow it and from there you have to be able to hone yourself whether you can control yourself and your own mind or not, gambling in my opinion can be used as a test of our patience, that's why there are very few people who can gamble wisely.

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August 28, 2024, 07:23:52 AM
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apart from what OP said I think we should not gamble when we are in an unclear state such as when we are feeling stressed because of the burden that occurs at work or others, because seeing gambling is a risky game then when we do it with our unstable state of mind it could be that the defeat that is certain to occur in gambling will only add to the problem by making us upset and of course it will provide pressure that can make us even worse, maybe excessive stress. Gambling should be done for fun, understand that losing money is something that is certain to happen, therefore, no matter what defeat occurs, try not to be an additional thought, because when we lose and think too much about it, what will happen is probably like what OP said, namely "getting back your defeat" this is just a path to destruction.

Yes, sometimes we gamble because we are stressed out, however, I found out that it very wrong as your mindset is very clouded and you are just playing because of your emotions and most likely you are going to lose a lot of money.

Right now, I'm not gambling for two days, after playing last Sunday and lost a good amount of money because I'm stressed. So I try to calm myself out every day and not to have gambling in my mind. And so far I have been successful and hopefully I can maintain this mindset. And thanks to this community, most of the time I will read and stay in the gambling board to remind myself not to fall and being addicted.
The purpose of gambling is for entertainment, and this is the goal that all gamblers should have. for those who are not in a good state of mind, it is better for them not to gamble, because defeat can be something that makes them emotional or others instead of wanting to get entertainment but instead becoming emotional because of the disappointing results, when the situation is not good, it is advisable to find something else to have fun with minimal risk.

I agree. Many other hobbies are out there if that one doesn't suit you, but in gambling - you spend as much as you gain, and it's normal, if you had fun while doing it. It's part of the process.

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I agree. Many other hobbies are out there if that one doesn't suit you, but in gambling - you spend as much as you gain, and it's normal, if you had fun while doing it. It's part of the process.

Come on man, stop spamming with one liners. 100+ posts in less than 3 days in gambling...

On the topic subject - the way I see it, it is better to stop gambling when you cant afford to take risk anymore. In other cases, just take a pause and think about something else despite gambling. Relax, earn some money, and return when whenever you want. Those who are bad at self control, irresponsible, think that gambling is a money source, should not approach gambling at all.

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I am not a regular gambler and sometimes when I need money I sometimes bet on MCW with cigarette money but most of the time I lose and sometimes if I get some profit then that profit money is managed to buy cigarettes for the next few days. But I never participate in gambling unless absolutely necessary.  Especially sometimes if can gain something from the forum then sometimes gambling bet otherwise I don't gamble.

Since you don't gamble I think it's good because if you gamble regularly it will become addictive. But since you smoke, it is very harmful to your health, so it will put you at a loss more than gambling. So I think you are not gambling but you are doing more damage to your body then if you want you can change your habit and quit smoking it will give you a healthy normal body. However as you said when you have enough money you gamble with small amounts but lose most of the time so you don't value much here. Of course, I am not in the habit of regular and constant gambling, but I play small amounts every month or every few months. Anyway I have never won gambling so I have no cravings for it, I am not that much interested in gambling which is why I refrain from gambling.

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August 28, 2024, 11:45:02 AM
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But the most important thing is to gamble when the mood is good because if not, then you may experience frustration or stress because the results obtained are not as planned. Therefore, maybe having a target and or limit is a good plan but even so, there is no guarantee for us to obey the rules that have been made by ourselves because we do not have good discipline either. Because after all, discipline is at least a basic factor that must be owned because by having good discipline then we will still be fine even though we gamble in any situation.

When you are in a good mood you tend to be very stable mentally and you will be able to focus when, I think their are chances that you can win because your analysis might even be better since you are calm, and that is why I prefer to gamble when am calm, sometimes or mostimes stress might not make it favour able for you to gamble comfortably, stress will make you decided out of frustration. It is not always advice to do cretical thinking especially when you are stressed,  am sure you will still break the rule but at least you should know when it's favorable for you to gamble. We all know even if it's favorable it still does not guarantee that you will be successful in your bet, at least that one will be a little better than when you are gambling and you are not concentrating it's a lot. Gambling comes with a lot responsibility, you must learn to always do the right thing if you actually want to enjoy gambling.

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August 28, 2024, 12:09:56 PM
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I agree. Many other hobbies are out there if that one doesn't suit you, but in gambling - you spend as much as you gain, and it's normal, if you had fun while doing it. It's part of the process.

Come on man, stop spamming with one liners. 100+ posts in less than 3 days in gambling...

On the topic subject - the way I see it, it is better to stop gambling when you cant afford to take risk anymore. In other cases, just take a pause and think about something else despite gambling. Relax, earn some money, and return when whenever you want. Those who are bad at self control, irresponsible, think that gambling is a money source, should not approach gambling at all.

Maybe I will focus more on the topic, as you said that it is best to stop when we no longer have the ability to accept the risk at certain times for some reason such as because we have lost enough money, and of course that is indeed a wise idea that we always say and suggest, namely by having the ability to stop at the right time in any situation, win or lose.

Because that way we will avoid the possibility of losing a larger amount and will also keep you from regretting too significantly. But I am sure that it is an idea that will be really difficult for gamblers who do come with the intention of making money, because of course instead of stopping they will be even more blind, so we must understand that gambling is nothing more than a playground and not a get-rich-quick scheme.

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August 28, 2024, 12:15:13 PM
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Every new gambler should be aware of the things you've brought up through your post. We have been gambling for a long time and when we were new, such instructions would definitely have been useful to us but for some reason we didn't get those instructions in the beginning, but for those who are getting them now, gambling will be easier in the future. We should make gambling decisions in cold brain if we are excited or over emotional we should not make any other important decisions including gambling at least at that time. If you are angry with others and you show that anger with your money, then we will get to know your unprofessionalism. If you are busy with work most of the day then avoid that time for gambling rather decide to gamble at night when you are free and you can give full attention to decision making, you will be more likely to be successful.

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August 28, 2024, 05:46:16 PM
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I am not a regular gambler and sometimes when I need money I sometimes bet on MCW with cigarette money but most of the time I lose and sometimes if I get some profit then that profit money is managed to buy cigarettes for the next few days. But I never participate in gambling unless absolutely necessary.  Especially sometimes if can gain something from the forum then sometimes gambling bet otherwise I don't gamble.

Since you don't gamble I think it's good because if you gamble regularly it will become addictive. But since you smoke, it is very harmful to your health, so it will put you at a loss more than gambling. So I think you are not gambling but you are doing more damage to your body then if you want you can change your habit and quit smoking it will give you a healthy normal body. However as you said when you have enough money you gamble with small amounts but lose most of the time so you don't value much here. Of course, I am not in the habit of regular and constant gambling, but I play small amounts every month or every few months. Anyway I have never won gambling so I have no cravings for it, I am not that much interested in gambling which is why I refrain from gambling.

I think that cigarette and gambling addiction are two problems that are quite difficult to overcome or I mean the time needed to eliminate the habit can be said to be almost the same, although I understand that cigarette addiction does not really interfere with your financial stability but of course it has a bad impact on your health.
On the other hand, I am also a smoker, but not too addicted, or I mean I only smoke when I really want to, and so is gambling.

This means that even though everything you do has a bad impact, if you don't do it excessively I think it won't be too much of a problem as long as you know the limits and also be aware that it is a risky activity and can have a bad impact on your finances or health.

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