Has this ever happened to you as a gambler?

[Mauser]

What could cause a gambler to place a bet to the extent that he no longer has money to pay for the games he played?


This story happened in my presence on Friday, when I visited a physical betting shop to book some games after that my battery ran down in the process of trying to place some bets with my smartphone to bet on a game that will kick-start in some minutes. There I was, there was this gentleman who was there before me playing the visual game and to cut the whole story short at the end, the gambler started having issues with the person who placed the games for him, reason being that after playing the visual game the gambler no longer has the money to pay the person, and he optioned to dropping his smartphone until when he brings the money and the money amounts to about $15+ and this lead to the owner of the shop inviting the police to settle the matter.

So the question now is: What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness?

It's a big no-go to place bets with money that you don't have or can't afford to lose. There is no excuse if your bet went against you and you can't afford to pay the bookmaker. The money should be taken out of the salary immediately and it should be a good lesson to not repeat the same mistake. When it comes to big physical casinos or online casinos we always need to deposit money first before placing bets. The bookies want to make sure that we actually have the money in case we lose it. Getting a loan from the bookie to place bets seems like a terrible idea. It's hard to tell if it's really a gambling addiction, for that we would need to know if it has happened before and how the rest of his gambling activities look like. I would probably say it's more greed, he might be thinking that low risk bets have no chance of losing and he got proven wrong. Or he has lost several bets before and thinks now that he can't lose anymore.

[entertheabyss]

I think this is both. You need to be careful yourself only while gambling. Be it physical or virtual gambling, you need to always set a budget or balance for the gambling. Don’t gamble beyond this limit. Moreover gambling is all about game of luck, hence it’s alright to make losses. To be honest, I have always kept this thing in my mind while gambling, hence I have never landed in such a situation.

We should apply wise decision in any condition we find ourselves. I know it's never easy to make the right choice every single time. Gambling is not easy task to anticipated, I've come across gamblers that have lost themselves in the space due to gambling and making gigantic losses. There's this fact about gambler, when they're losing, they fumble and lose confidence while the ones winning always proves to be formidable and buoyant in the system, they're not holding any doubt because they're keen on printing money from the system.

[Negotiation]

Yes, I've heard a lot of that too if you can't pay after the bet it is true that addiction or greed can put a gambler in such a situation. Greed is something that puts a person in a bad situation in every way because after greed one always runs towards it. Gambling is a game that tends to be more addictive than fun or competitive gambling addicts prioritize gambling over personal family or social responsibilities. As a result his problems are not solved but the problems become more pronounced. You have to try to control yourself for solving your own problems self control is more important to get out of gambling addiction.

[Outhue]

There is no better way to describe this than addiction have taken over this person, they believe that if they keep gambling they will make it, this is why I hate any words of encouragement from anyone to gamblers, they are pushing you towards the burning pot of fire, if you let it get to you, it's your fault.

Gambling is a burning field of greedy and impatience, if you allow this to consume you there will be problem, i's not a place that you can make guaranteed money but it will make the whole picture look like you are going to win, that hope is what I call untrue.

If you can't devote a small percentage of your salary or income for gambling and never use more than that, you are a loose dog that goes around bitting through anything they sees, learn to control yourself in gambling, the amount you are willing to lose must remain the same, because it's what you can afford to lose.

[Jody.Drummer]

Yes, I've heard a lot of that too if you can't pay after the bet it is true that addiction or greed can put a gambler in such a situation. Greed is something that puts a person in a bad situation in every way because after greed one always runs towards it. Gambling is a game that tends to be more addictive than fun or competitive gambling addicts prioritize gambling over personal family or social responsibilities. As a result his problems are not solved but the problems become more pronounced. You have to try to control yourself for solving your own problems self control is more important to get out of gambling addiction.

Yes, greed combines with curiosity which ultimately makes a person make decisions without any rational consideration, but yes, that is an addictive situation where you will easily make decisions that are actually beyond your ability just because of the urge of curiosity to get something bigger. Simply put, addicted gamblers will usually be curious when they lose and will also be greedy when they win.

So whether you win or lose, the situation will still be the same because addicted gamblers will usually end up losing even though they initially won and that is because of the greed aspect that they cannot ignore. On the other hand, yes, it is true that gambling is an activity that tends to make us addicted, none other than because the object of winning is money, which we all always need money, that is not wrong, but what is wrong is that some people are too serious about winning in gambling without knowing that anyone will only be able to win by "chance", this is why gambling is always referred to as a chance activity and clearly the key is limits and self-control as a precaution.

[len01]

So the question now is: What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness?

greed is always in the minds of gambling addicts and what the gambler does includes the two statements you said so that he does something that makes himself feel satisfied.
like the case I once saw a gambler playing a slot game with a large budget after that he increased the amount of his bet when he always lost every spin bonus purchase and after that his budget ran out surprisingly he approached me and told me to buy his phone and I before buying the phone he offered, I asked him and he answered very long and then I was willing to buy the phone at a cheap price.
but it was very surprising after he went to borrow his friend's phone to play slots again and lost again then he approached me again to ask for his phone back even though I had bought his phone only a few hours before and worse he threatened me because I didn't return his phone and finally his friend approached him after that asked him to leave.

this is also a behavior that is outside the limits of a normal gambler or ordinary gambler because it is clear that from the gambler's behavior we can see whether he is just gambling for fun or following his addiction.

[AbuBhakar]

Yes, I've heard a lot of that too if you can't pay after the bet it is true that addiction or greed can put a gambler in such a situation. Greed is something that puts a person in a bad situation in every way because after greed one always runs towards it. Gambling is a game that tends to be more addictive than fun or competitive gambling addicts prioritize gambling over personal family or social responsibilities. As a result his problems are not solved but the problems become more pronounced. You have to try to control yourself for solving your own problems self control is more important to get out of gambling addiction.

What I find weird about this situation is how can you even place bet without paying it upfront. The last time I visit a casino or betting shop doesn’t have any IOU form of betting including agent since they need the money first before someone place bet.

I believe doubling down in blackjack is the only scenario which this can possibly happened since it offers insurance or doubling down during the bet which you can’t afford if you don’t have enough money already while you have an active bets already. This is the only time greed can’t do anything no matter how good the situation if you don’t have money anymore.

[Dewi Aries]

I think this is both. You need to be careful yourself only while gambling. Be it physical or virtual gambling, you need to always set a budget or balance for the gambling. Don’t gamble beyond this limit. Moreover gambling is all about game of luck, hence it’s alright to make losses. To be honest, I have always kept this thing in my mind while gambling, hence I have never landed in such a situation.

We should apply wise decision in any condition we find ourselves. I know it's never easy to make the right choice every single time. Gambling is not easy task to anticipated, I've come across gamblers that have lost themselves in the space due to gambling and making gigantic losses. There's this fact about gambler, when they're losing, they fumble and lose confidence while the ones winning always proves to be formidable and buoyant in the system, they're not holding any doubt because they're keen on printing money from the system.

One thing that can help you to really make wise decisions is when you look at and consider something rationally and sensibly, the question is whether you are able to maintain this level of awareness? if not then it will obviously be difficult, but if you are able to maintain awareness within yourself when you are in a certain situation, especially perhaps defeat, then I think it will not be too difficult for you to really choose the wisest and best decision in some situations.

Basically, in my opinion, if you have a healthy approach to gambling then maybe everything will go well, I understand that the problems that occur in gambling are problems that are quite difficult to overcome, one of which is addiction, but you won't experience problems. like that if you initially have a correct understanding about gambling and you will be able to have this when you always look at things rationally and not just from one side, as you said regarding people who end up going astray and experiencing big losses. , and I say that they are people who are too tempted by what is called winning in gambling, ignoring the possibility of risk in gambling is a very wrong mindset which ultimately leads themselves to a much worse situation, this is not about profit but more about balance because after all gambling is always risky.

[knowngunman]

So the question now is: What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness?

This is a pure sign of gambling addiction champion by greed. These two gambling effects works hand in hand with each other to destroy the gambler's life. Several times, issues like this has been discussed in this forum and I have personally witnessed some with my eyes. In fact, I do intervene in the matter when necessary. For cases like this, I blame the shop owners for allowing customers to play games multiple times without paying for the first round. Some gamblers are easily carried away during those moments and can accumulate debts bigger than their budget which normally result in this.

I don't want to talk much about the gambler but I would advise the victim to play according to his budget next time because this is a total embarrassment to himself and the family. In this part of the world, the moment people start seeing you having issues involving police, they'll start avoiding you and assume you are a bad person. How do you explain yourself to your loved ones that you play games and couldn't afford to pay is the reason you are with the police for God sake? Which sane person does that? Absolutely embarrassing. Operators should not be allowing customers to play games without payments to avoid issues like this. Aside that it's not good for their business, it also damage customers relation.

[famososMuertos]

...//:::?
So the question now is: What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness?

#tbt Topic

Well, it's a classic story and the only thing that comes across is that you were looking at something that is none of your business. (Sorry)

Has this ever happened to you as a gambler?
 No.

 But if it happens, I'll pay for a consultation with a specialist, the one in the story probably used the phrase (it doesn't work) "bet the money you can afford to lose."

[AmoreJaz]

Yes, I've heard a lot of that too if you can't pay after the bet it is true that addiction or greed can put a gambler in such a situation. Greed is something that puts a person in a bad situation in every way because after greed one always runs towards it. Gambling is a game that tends to be more addictive than fun or competitive gambling addicts prioritize gambling over personal family or social responsibilities. As a result his problems are not solved but the problems become more pronounced. You have to try to control yourself for solving your own problems self control is more important to get out of gambling addiction.

What I find weird about this situation is how can you even place bet without paying it upfront. The last time I visit a casino or betting shop doesn’t have any IOU form of betting including agent since they need the money first before someone place bet.

I believe doubling down in blackjack is the only scenario which this can possibly happened since it offers insurance or doubling down during the bet which you can’t afford if you don’t have enough money already while you have an active bets already. This is the only time greed can’t do anything no matter how good the situation if you don’t have money anymore.

We don't know exactly the behind the scenes here, but in any case, that's none of our business. However, in this particular scenario, you can account for both, addiction and greed. Because these two behaviours go together and more then likely the gambler himself is guilty of these emotions, but he won't admit it to himself.

Didn't happen it yet to myself, but I am not looking forward to it..lol As much as possible, contain your gambling habits so you won't get into trouble. You will only regret afterwards, once the damaged has done.

[EarnOnVictor]

What could cause a gambler to place a bet to the extent that he no longer has money to pay for the games he played?
-snip-
So the question now is: What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness?

I hear this kind of story almost daily and the reasons for such are many, which could be one or more from the following; stupidity, addiction and irresponsibility. Certainly, greed is not part of it because there is nothing to be greedy about here, since the guy has not won a bet and continues to play. This is the only cause we can attribute greed to. In this case, he was just foolish to let himself get carried away by the gambling, and perhaps he did not have any budget or plans before entering the gambling house. This is bad.

Also, for someone to behave as foolishly as such, I am sure the person is also addicted to gambling. There is no way you would not be engrossed with gambling and continue to play to the point that you played when you are fully aware you did not have more money to pay for it. This is so annoying and foolish, it shows the level of irresponsibility of the person and the shame of an adult, to say the least.

I often advise gamblers to be very cautious in their gambling activity to avoid shameful embarrassments like that. Gambling is never a must, or is it food or the air we breathe to make it compulsory? So, I wonder why some people engage in it as if their lives depend on it. Gamble when you have the money and forget gambling when you do not have the money. And even if you have the money, gamble politely and responsibly, and never use the money that if lost would be hurtful, not to talk of gambling on loans. The guy's case is so absurd.

[Crypt0Gore]

They need to satisfied their need for gambling, it's nothing but an addiction that they can't control, you need to be scared of what gambling could do to you, when you think you have control, think again, because it's possible to lose yourself when gambling, make sure you understand the risks involved instead of trying to be something you are not.

Many people have end up breaking their homes because of this addiction, they lack self control, their families must have tried to help but its getting no where, I have seen this happening around me, and to me it's just a lack of understanding, if you can really sit down and try to solve the true meaning of gambling, it's very clear that it could turn your life upside down, for the worse.

If everyone is adding some sense, they will be very careful around casinos, it's not something you can rely on for passive income or even life changing opportunity, it's not, you must risk only what you can truly afford to lose, and accept that gambling might not favour you at all.

[justdimin]

The situation and the part where you are triggered by the things that make you gamble are the problem. Making yourself in a situation that makes it easy for you to gamble (if you are addicted) is the problem.

The attitude and personality would make you prone to that situation where greediness and addiction.

I think I have never made myself or had to stop myself from gambling.

That's right. It is not the fault of gambling or the betting shop, so we shouldn't put the blame at them if ever we do. Having lots of money, can be said as one of the triggers for the most of us to play gambling but we can't just wish that we better not have it because we also need it on other things.

By there, I can say that the problem is not about the money but it was our self for not having a self control. Too bad mate that you are one of those who can't control themselves but have you already tried consulting to the experts about this matter? Or let the people around you know it, so that they can give you advices and help. Good luck, and I hope you still can recover.

[Natsuu]

The guy at the betting shop probably got into this mess because he's hooked on gambling and can't stop, mixing in a bit of greed for good measure. Addiction makes people ignore how much they can really afford and the idea of scoring big quickly amps up the risk. Your story with the gambler not having cash to settle his bets sounds like a mix of compulsive betting driven by addiction and wanting more than he could handle like classic greed. Sorting out issues like these often needs some kind of intervention, counseling or support to break the cycle of bad gambling habits

[harapan]

What could cause a gambler to place a bet to the extent that he no longer has money to pay for the games he played?


This story happened in my presence on Friday, when I visited a physical betting shop to book some games after that my battery ran down in the process of trying to place some bets with my smartphone to bet on a game that will kick-start in some minutes. There I was, there was this gentleman who was there before me playing the visual game and to cut the whole story short at the end, the gambler started having issues with the person who placed the games for him, reason being that after playing the visual game the gambler no longer has the money to pay the person, and he optioned to dropping his smartphone until when he brings the money and the money amounts to about $15+ and this lead to the owner of the shop inviting the police to settle the matter.

So the question now is: What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness?

Wow!! There's no second thought to this,this is big time gambling addiction and it has come to the height of it,and there's no way he'll come out of such mess except otherwise.
This is why it is purely advice to  bargain for something that you can afford and be discipline in your dealings with finances but most people won't adhere to  but with the mindset of having it by all means it will surely land the person somewhere they will regret every actions.

What will become of him now,and I think for he to place is smartphone as an exchange for the bet funds, there's no point he really have any to sort that,it's such set of people that won't take advice and even end up selling their entire assets just for this

[adpinbr]

This is what I have been talking about nobody should place a bet with what they cannot afford to lose, to me It is a crime to bet with everything that you have until the extend that you don’t even have a penny anymore not just that betting in credits, you are just bringing more problems to yourself whatever you see and whatever happened to you is what you deserve it, but I pray they should just forgive him and give sometime to pay the debt. Some people are just crazy in betting stupidity I don’t just understand how people think before they take some action.

[chaser15]

So the question now is: What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness?

It's linked and associated with each other. We can consider "addiction will lead to greediness" or "greediness will lead to addiction".

The same bottom line. The same result. Nothing has changed vice-versa. A gambler under status is always desperate to gamble.

Since lack money, they will do everything just to make it possible for them to gamble even if it's about facing risky action.

[lionheart78]

So the question now is: What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness?

This is more likely a loss of control scenario.  The person might be greedy or addicted since both factors can trigger that event.  It is too soon to say that the person is a gambling addict because there is so little evidence or scenario to support that the person is an addicted gambler, while it is more likely to be greed because of the spur of the moment, and wanting to make more money hoping that he will hit big time, failed to check his available funds.

This is what I have been talking about nobody should place a bet with what they cannot afford to lose, to me It is a crime to bet with everything that you have until the extend that you don’t even have a penny anymore not just that betting in credits, you are just bringing more problems to yourself whatever you see and whatever happened to you is what you deserve it, but I pray they should just forgive him and give sometime to pay the debt. Some people are just crazy in betting stupidity I don’t just understand how people think before they take some action.

This is more on bankroll management, it is not about whether the person is betting on the money he can afford to lose but betting on the money that he has no hold of.  This is a clear scenario of a bankroll management problem.  Betting without any funds is a clear sign of defrauding the operator.  It is right that the owner of the shop calls  a police because the person is trying to defraud him.

[irhact]

We don't know exactly the behind the scenes here, but in any case, that's none of our business. However, in this particular scenario, you can account for both, addiction and greed. Because these two behaviours go together and more then likely the gambler himself is guilty of these emotions, but he won't admit it to himself.

That's what I think too, many individual that don't make profits or end up in the same situation when they're gambling as they're greedy and also have addiction problem. It's when they have addictions that their real greediness come out more as they won't be able to control anything. I prefer to not be greedy and be comfortable with any payout that I get. I don't gamble further when I don't have the money to pay incase I lose and I was asked to pay. Don't gamble money you don't own.

As a gambler, you have a higher chances of losing than winning therefore you shouldn't put yourself in a situation that you'll have to be beg and not get disgrace. Many individuals are lacking proper guide on how to gamble responsibly, when you gamble responsibly you're going to enjoy the games that you're playing and also make money if you're very lucky for luck based games or have skills for others.